/jp/ - Otaku Culture

The ones published by MangaGamer.

>>10207292
Speaking of which, was there ever more porn of MG-tan made? I remember there being a fuss over this 3-4 years ago.

>>10207307
There was this lewd image by Uncle Mugen:
http://mugenjohncel.blogspot.nl/2010/11/support-jast-usa.html
(NSFW)

If we're going by the HCG, stuff like Hatsukoi, Musume Shimai, Mei Shoujo, Hajimete no Oishasan, Sakura Musubi, Sweet Robin Girl, Monobeno and most games by Complets, Tarte, SCORE, Latte and Rococo Works.

Yuzusoft, Feng, FAVORITE, Cabbit, Hooksoft and even the new sub-division of Softhouse-Seal (GRANDEE) have nicely drawn ones too, but their games aren't focused on it.

>>10207336
Holy shit dude, you're like, some sort of PEDO MASTER.

>>10207342
I can't even compare to people with actual in-depth knowledge about the subject. These are the ones I like the most, however.

>>10207355
How many kids have you molested?

Be honest. It's an anonymous board.

>>10207363
0

>>10207363
What's wrong with you?
It's like asking someone who like GTA how many people has he killed, you are quite a dick you know.

>>10207397
You're not playing a game that simulates masturbating to children, you (the player) are masturbating to children.

>>10207404
Of course not, most of the games is about having sex with the girls, not masturbating to them, but it doesn't imply that I'm interested in actually doing such a thing, like the GTA example, I love going around blowing people's head in the game but I'd hate having to do such a thing on real life.

Thread derailed.

>>10207420
So you don't masturbate to the porn games starring 12-year-olds you download? Calling bullshit on that one.

Sorry >>10207425
This is >>10207397 >>10207420 here, and I won't reply to that dick anymore.

>>10207434
Just admit you lost the argument so we can all move on. There's no shame in being wrong, we all get a little irrational from time to time.

>>10207434
Just admit you lost the argument so we can all move on. There's no shame in being wrong, we all get a little irrational from time to time.

>>10207564
Do you want some candy to stay quiet, son?

>>10207397
>>10207378
>>10207404
>>10207420
Please don't respond to posters from /v/ or le reddit. They just want to "le troll you xD."

>>10207823
How you should have written your post:
"Please don't respond to trolls."

You're just as bad.

>loli
>VN

Pick one. I wish I was kidding.

>>10207859
What are you saying that loli VNs don't exist or there are no good ones?

I especially loved Oyatsu no Jikan and some of the games by Sakuranbo Shougakkou are pretty good.

Oh you know.
Did anyone play Lovely no Natsuyasumi?

If we pester MG enough will they liscense Crayon Tulip?

>>10209199
You realize it's not just loli, it's ultra loli. The girls look and behave like they're 7

>>10209220
Just slap a "girls are age 18, 19, and 22" on the back. Then make some crap up like a witch made their bodies shrink and their brains operate like a child's.

>>10209220
MY DICK

>>10209220
US law doesn't make any sort of distinction. If it's a minor or what appears to be a minor, it's illegal. Doesn't matter whether she's 17 or 7.

The Netherlands doesn't give a fuck about that, though. I think only saying they're 18 is fine.

I actually emailed info on MG's games to the FBI, and a week later Kouryuu made that one statement about lolicon.

Probably a coincidence, but I like to think I helped.

>>10209320
Why does scum like you continue to fester and rot all over everything.

>>10209336
I don't want games I like ruined by deviants.

You can have VNs without lolicon. Please don't ruin it for the rest of us by your association. And no, it's not MUH JAPANESE CULTURE or A PART OF VNs any more than pornography is a part of Touhou. You can enjoy a porn game or a cute shmup without resorting to serious law breaking.

People who molest kids don't waste time reading VNs.

>>10209349

>>10209349
It's pretty evident by your posting style that you either frequent /v/ or /vg/. Could you please go back there and take your ridiculous morality with you?

>>10209349
It isn't breaking Shit just because your a sheep who embraces unfair and unjust laws. If you don't like it, don't play it, that's all you have to do.

Isn't MG a European company? They don't give a fuck about drawn children over here. Well, it might be illegal in Britain.

>>10209367

>>10209371
i put text on imaeg :DDD

>>10208925
Maybe he's an English only fag?

For me, it's a split between Yurine (Rin Ran route best) and Kodomo Milk Parfait.

I need to get round to playing Oyatsu some time, I've been meaning too ever since someone made threads about it years ago.

>>10209349
But deviants were the fanbase that helped them get to where they are today. Also, its time for you to stop posting.

>>10209349
Reported for illegal content. I don't want boards I like ruined by fags, and homosexuality is illegal where I live.

>>10209357
>Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly possesses a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that
>depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and is obscene; or
>depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value;
>or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A (b)(2), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction.

>Nonrequired Element of Offense.— It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exist.

People have already been sentenced for (just) cartoons. If you want to try your luck with an appeal, go ahead. Otherwise it's a fine or up to 10 years imprisonment. Up to 20 if you're a repeat offender or a distributor.

>>10209369
It's illegal in the UK and Sweden. Not sure about elsewhere.

>>10209349
>resorting to serious law breaking.
Loli isn't illegal.

>Please don't ruin it for the rest of us by your association
Even then, you shouldn't give a damn if VNs are socially accepted or not. One ruins VNs not by their content, but by over-advocating them and bringing undue attention to places that don't normally look for such content.

>>10209388
>Loli isn't illegal.

See my above post. It depends how specific you want to be, but that applies to any law really.

Two examples of people with cartoon CP from Japan being sentenced for it:
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/02/sentencingmanga.pdf
http://www.monett-times.com/story/1904776.html

>>10209399
That's a damned shame, but I'm glad to have been using Blowfish crypto the whole time.

>>10209399
> On Aug. 8, 2011, Bee's wife contacted the Monett Police Department and reported that she had found files she believed to be child pornography on a computer used by her husband. Police officers executed a search warrant at Bee's residence and seized his computer.

Never get married /jp/.

>>10209409
she was yandere and jealous as HELL

>>10209399
Two examples of abuse in Americas court system. I still see zero laws being broken.

I like to waste the police's time on people who masturbate to cartoons instead of letting them go after the people who actually rape kids.

>>10209399
I can't even imagine how pissed off I would be at myself, after getting sentenced for something like that.

It upsets me that a woman would report her husband for pornography, regardless of what type of pornography it was. Not just because of loyalty in the same way you mightn't report your spouse for theft, but because it's none of your fucking business.

>>10209427
check your privilege

Well Japanese VNs are unlikely to change for western people so these anti lolicon backlash would only result in less games brought over by companies or changed to remove content.

>>10209417
"We arrested 12 pedophiles this week" sounds better than "We arrested a child molester this week, also 11 dudes who fap to drawings."

Here's to moral panics.

>>10209428
Didn't some game localized by some company show a picture of the sea and a law enforcement logo? Or was that for piracy?

>>10209449
What game?

Thread needs more loli VN, less legal discussions.

>>10209457
Thank you.

>>10209457
Global rule 1.

We're having these legal discussions or you're not having what you want.

>>10209457
Have you played Itazu-love/Shiiko love? I adore Shiiko.

http://vndb.org/c4482

>>10209463
there's no porn in this thread

>>10209467
I haven't yet. I've been meaning to for a while. Maybe I'll make it my next nukige to play once I've (finally) gotten round to getting through Musume Shimai.

>>10209457
Just VNs?
How about those flash games like Hizashi no Naka?

>>10209471
>discuss
>link to

No one has been sentenced for cartoons, only obscenity. Using obscenity sentances as proof cartoon porn is illegal also implies that ALL porn is illegal, as the only thing making it legal is it not being found obscene. Also it's illegal to send it through the mail either way.

Should I download this?

>>10209492
itazura gokuaku was better

>>10209488
Both cases in >>10209399 were under the law titled "Obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children". That law is explicitly about children. It explicitly mentions cartoons and drawings. It is not a generic obscenity law.

>>10209463>>10209498

Anyone up for making the thread when the retards from reddit and SA aren't here? AKA during non-Americlap time. It's sad to see that these people have infiltrated /jp/.

>>10209463
It's legal in the US, protected under the first amendment, specifically freedom of speech and freedom of the press. Since the US is where 4chan servers are located, all you lesser countries with antiloli laws don't matter.

>>10209500
They will always find a way though. This is the problem with people. Humans need to stop having ideas and just fap to loli.

>>10209500
Pedos were always a part of 4chan :D
/l/ ftw ^__^

>>10209504
see: the thread

>>10209510
Any examples to the contrary are abortions of justice and also don't matter.

>>10209512
You talk like the constitution still matters or something.

>>10209236
You're not far from the truth, lol. They're Succubi who can't age until they've had sex. One of them is even OLDER than you and you're a teacher. So I'm guessing she's 20-25 years old.

>>10209508
Loli isn't illegal in America. Moot agreed, don't bother him about it.

>>10209510
A previous anti cartoon child porn law was STRUCK DOWN BY THE US SUPREME COURT back around the year 2000 as violating the 1st amendment. It was said during that time that unless real children were involved it's NOT ILLEGAL.

So far nobody has challenged the new law in the Supreme Court like the old law was challenged and thrown out. Blame faulty lawyers and idiots. Lolicon is NOT illegal!

>>10209492
http://s.vndb.org/sf/42/35942.jpg
That's... a lot of blood.

>>10209517
No, really, all the convictions were accepted plea bargains, which any decent lawyer wouldn't have agreed to because their client was clearly innocent. Most of the other times it's just brought up as an aggravating factor and not the actual center of the case.

>>10209524
Lolicon is illegal in the United States, and will continue to be illegal until the law is revised or struck down. Just because a similar law was struck down by the Supreme Court a decade ago does not mean that the current law is not in force.

Stop it.

>>10209544
It still means there's precedent against it, and nearly all courts try to follow precedent as common law.

>>10209550
The only court that can declare a law unconstitutional is the Supreme Court. You can be convicted for possessing lolicon in a lower court, and your only recourse will be to appeal to the Supreme Court. It is and will be illegal until that time.

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>>10209544
But it's an unenforced law. Guess we can't talk about oral or anal sex, both of those are technically illegal in the US. Those Halloween threads? Trick or treating is also illegal. Should I go on?

>>10209507
More like all you pro-loli types need to lobby for the approval of the ability to fap to any kind of cartoon. What are you going to do when your generation gets in power? Still continue to fap in secrecy because you "normalfag" peers probably wouldn't approve?

>>10209524
That law was replaced with this one, which says
>It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exist.

In fact I imagine that part is there to say, "This isn't covered by the First Amendment."

If you disagree, feel free to start an internet petitioning campaign.

As it stands, lolicon is illegal as much as it is in the UK or Australia (although the US scope is narrower).

>>10209556
Bullshit. Any federal court can rule a federal law unconstitutional. Happens all the time. The government will appeal to a higher court, or course. SCOTUS just has the final say in the matter.

>>10209524
>>10209533
Is having a nuclear bomb in my bedroom legal? Nobody has been arrested for it.

>>10209568
Don't be stupid. The only reason why it's illegal is so that people don't photoshop actual photographs and claim they were computer generated. As long as it's obviously fake, like moe moe 2D lolis, it's going to be accepted as legal by any judge. I don't have any problem with cops bringing actual perpetrators to justice and using overreaching unenforced laws to do it.

Just gunna keep dropping these here so we can get on with what this threads supposed to be about.

>>10209570
No. There have been no real convictions, just plea bargains so that judges can't exercise judicial review.

>>10209578
Strawman, idiot. Go to hell you ignorant normalcunt.

>>10209568
What makes you think the politicians in power are not already closet pedos/homos/furries/whatever?

>>10209566

I wish I could read moon. For some reason I find the art in this game unbearably cute.

>>10209583
>drawings
>cartoons

Two people have been sentenced for manga art already.

What you're referring to are pseudo-photographs, which are already covered.

>>10209591
The girls are on a level of cuteness unparaleled.

>>10209578
Why would owning a nuke be illegal? Imagine someone trying to make a private nuclear power plant if it were illegal.

>>10209593
Wow, a whole two people, like I give a fuck. Millions haven't been arrested, which shows that the justice system messed up twice within the last decade. Now stop trying to derail /jp/ culture.

>>10209585
>Strawman, idiot. Go to hell you ignorant normalcunt.

How so? Your argument, as I understand it, is that if the law says:
>Any person who commits X will be sentenced to a fine or imprisonment.
then it does not mean X is illegal until someone commits X, takes it to a higher court, and appeals.

The law is pretty fucking clear. You possess a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, etc. that meets certain criteria, you have to pay a fine or go to jail. This has happened to real people, yet you say it is still legal? This exact same law is the law that covers photographs. Is having a photograph of two 8-year-olds fucking each other not illegal any more?

>>10209604
likeigiveafuck.jpg
you know, that kid leaning on the wall

>>10209590
It doesn't matter what the politicians are, it matters what the public seems to want.

>>10209604
>Millions haven't been arrested, which shows that the justice system messed up twice within the last decade.

Millions of people steal. Millions of people use drugs.

It's not that the laws aren't there, it's that people aren't getting caught. Police don't care about someone stealing a pack of gum, smoking a joint or downloading a lewd image of a kid. They care about the big shots who rob banks, deal heroin and distribute gigabytes of child rape videos.

Consider this: A pack of wild Pedophiles.
Autistic, creepy Pedophiles nearing your normal home. Parking panel vans on your normal lawn. Staring at your cute daughter.
And you can't do shit since they're deviants. The Pedophile leader grabs your toddler daughter and tickles her inner thigh with his unwashed hands.
The freakish Pedophiles finally dominate your household. They watch children's shows on TV and you are forced to be their slave.
Such is the downfall of Neurotypical Man.

>>10209627
>furry
Fuck off furry scum.

Even though you moralfags have such poor arguments this is still fun to watch.

>>10209625

Why did I think about Jews and Muslims while reading that? I'm a terrible person.

#stopfictionalchildabuse

>>10209622
Around a thousand people got arrested for downloading child pornography last year. Two people got arrested for loli in the last decade. Probably those arrests were in error, use your brain.

>>10209635

No it's not... It's damn depressing. /jp/ is only fun when it sticks to the fucked up shit and Touhou that got it kicked out of /a/ to begin with.

>>10209622
Why do you advocate in favor of thoughtcrime laws?

Do they not read 1984 to america kids in schools anymore?

>>10209645
Was the originator of this image aware of the irony in using Konata?

>>10209653
What irony, she's a high school girl.

>>10209649
How were they in error? Both men possessed a visual depiction that showed a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and was obscene, or an image of a minor in a lewd situation[1] that lacked literary/artistic/scientific/political value. Therefore they were subject to the penalties in USC 2252A (b)(2) and given either a fine or up to 10 years imprisonment. This was a pretty clear-cut case of following the law, it wasn't a mistake. They weren't caught as part of a larger scheme and are actually innocent.

Also, there are more cases of people who have both photographs and cartoons. Not every is 2D-only master race.


_____
[1] graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex

Are there any lolis in the older games that were brought into USA?

>>10209651
Well the more we keep the fight going the less moralfags SA/v/reddt/whatev will send.

>>10209670
All drawings are considered to have artistic value.

>>10209670
Both men, and, at the same time, there are probably half a mil household computers in the US with such content.

We need to kill the babyboomers. They are the worst generation and the sooner they are gone, the sooner we can be free.

>>10209665

She shares her 'secret closet library' materials with her dad.

loli won't be truly illegal or the same as CP until the feds start doing raids and sting operations. Feds probably sit their loling their asses off every time some guy is arrested for cartoons as it is, and go back to monitoring that mother who's pimping out her 5 year old as part of some child prostitution ring.

At best, it's "stop jacking off to what I don't like" for overeager retards.

Don't even use the term normal or moral for them, art isn't moral or immoral, nor is thinking of cartoons as people normal.

>>10209583
>The only reason why it's illegal is so that people don't photoshop actual photographs and claim they were computer generated
I don't think anyone would oppose photo-realistic or even any 3d image as being illegal.

Come to think of it, how come no one has been arrested for oblivion/skyrim/fallout loli mods?

>>10209652
I don't. I think the law is stupid. Data should never be illegal as long as nobody is harmed. If a picture already exists, the harm is done. Having the picture should not be illegal, but it is.
However, pretending the law doesn't exist is just ignorant. We should fight against this sort of thing, not say, "Nuh-uh! It isn't real because it hasn't been challenged!"
The law will become even more severe. Here's something I was following last year:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1981/show
This bill increases the penalties and enables snooping. Fortunately it won't go anywhere, but they'll try again.

Furthermore, I don't want illegal content on my 4chan, and I don't want people to discuss or link to illegal content because that breaks the global rules. Again, it's similar to drugs: I don't mind if you snort cocaine, just don't do it in my house.

>>10209679
I haven't seen any 3D model that wasn't obviously not a real person. They haven't gotten that realistic yet.

>>10209676
>>>/pol/
The babyboomers are the worst generation besides all the following generations.

>>10209679
>Come to think of it, how come no one has been arrested for oblivion/skyrim/fallout loli mods?
Children of Cyrodil\Skyrim\Wastelands project is dead. the who who ran the site hasn't been scene in months and daylight savings time apparently broke the shitty vBulletin forums, rendering the project effectively dead because no one has server access to change on single line.

So what exactly happened to Takeru Yamamoto that caused the weeaboo to abandon his beloved project? Is he rotting in a secret FBI gulag? The world may never know.

>>10209699
Fuck off you old faggot. Go back to reading Reader's Digest and writing congress about how terrible and uncouth the modern generation is and how many new laws we need. I hope the cure for cancer comes the day after the last boomer is dead.

>>10209694
moot considers it legal, you saw his announcement post in 2003. Not quasi-legal, he thinks it's OK. Why do you have to rain on our parade with your poorly worded arguments?

>>10209591
>>10209595
How can anyone find that game cute? They look hideous. I still can't believe it's anything other than a handful of people spamming it in hopes someone translates it.

>>10209674
You wish. I'm a photographer, I could argue the same for photographs. Filmmakers could argue the same for videos.

>>10209675
Law enforcement aren't actively looking for them, and none of them are turning themselves in.

>>10209679
>Come to think of it, how come no one has been arrested for oblivion/skyrim/fallout loli mods?
Same as above.

>loli won't be truly illegal or the same as CP until the feds start doing raids and sting operations.
Covered by the same law. Also, lolicon is CP, it's just drawn CP (pornography pre-dates photography). The legal/academic term is "simulated child pornography", because they're not weeaboos.
I agree with what you're saying, though. The FBI don't care as much about drawings as they do photos, and they don't care about users so much as the large distributors. That's a given.

any VN where you become the loli?

>>10209708
Are the eyes too big? I don't see anything wrong with the art style, really.

>>10209709
That's because photography doesn't have artistic value. You just pressed a button, don't get full of yourself. Compare that to the amount of discipline required to simply draw a cartoon.

>>10209706
That law had been around less than a year when moot made those news posts. I doubt 15-year-old moot knew about it.

>loli
>not pedo

>>10209710
Futaba Channel has that, I believe.
>>10209705
Stop blaming the boomers for you not having any drive.
This is what's wrong with your generation- always the victims, never your fault.

>>10209719
Yeah actually it does

>>10209719
>You just pressed a button, don't get full of yourself.
Fuck you. There's more to it than that. Consider all the variables.

>Compare that to the amount of discipline required to simply draw a cartoon.
Effort does not make something art. You can make straight-up porn and it takes effort. Lighting, sets, acting, the actual fugging...it's gruelling stuff.
Conversely, not all art takes effort. Like those people who pretended to be Nazis and dipped their feet in milk. ART.

>>10209723
I am irrelevant. Boomers are responsible for Moral Majority, Evangelical Christianity, ritual satanic child sex abuse hysteria of the 80's, pointless and regressive antiterrorism laws, reviving obscenity laws, and lots of other repressive bullshit. They are a terrible generation that hates freedom. The sooner they die, the better.

>>10209723
Haha the description is amusing..and the mc changes with a bar of soap.
It's got 3 sequels too.

Too bad it will never get picked up like X Change.

Are there any loli VN that isn't a nukige?

>>10209742
You want some NTR loli?

>>10209384
>Sweden
Nope, the guy who got busted for loli got acquitted in the Supreme Court (creating precedent), the chief of the police's national anti-CP department himself stated that the law was a ludicrous waste of time, and even the normalfags think the case was retarded (the only ones who thought it was just were a few crazy extremist feminazis on obscure blogs). It's pretty much legal now.

>>10209742
Somebody should make one with a good story.
If somebdoy could write Lolita why not a VN version too?

>>10209753
If I knew how to draw and could make a VN I would have done that and much more by now.

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/09/30/lost-girls-britain-alan-moore/

Alan Moore is such a magnificent bastard. He freely calls his comic "pornography", but Canada says it's art and the UK says, "Oh fuck, it's already being sold everywhere. Well, whatever."

Free speech - 1
Idiots - 0

>>10209733
Y-Yes goy, good idea. Blame your parents and your religion for everything. Kill them all for us!

>>10209753
Everyone wants to be Nabokov, but nobody can pull it off.

>>10209753
Did anyone on /jp/ actually read Lolita? I read the first half and it was so boring I couldn't bring myself to read the second. I remember the sex scene being written fairly exotically though, it was quite memorable.

>>10209721
If it were illegal, he wouldn't allow those threads they have on /b/.

>>10209800
There are sex scenes?
Did they put that in the movie too?
Never read the book or watched the movie.

>>10209800
I watch a black and white Lolita movie pretty boring but that ending wow brought water to my eyes
No sex scenes

>>10209800
That's odd, he did a reverse climax thing where it start off with the most excitement and gets gradually less as it goes on. Most erotica did it the other way around.

>>10209819
There is a sex scene consisting of the sentence "We had sex." He doesn't tend to go into much detail.

>>10209819
He has sex with her but I don't remember how explicit it was. I only read about a third of it (actually, someone read it to me).

There was sex in the (newer) movie, but it wasn't explicit. Just "now they are having sex now they aren't." There was a part where she stopped having sex partway through to solicit money from him. I thought that part was mean.

>>10209819
There's one near the end of the first half of the book. It's written so uniquely and so classy you wouldn't even know what was going if it was taken out of context. It kind of blew me away at the time actually.

>>10209806
Email him about it. There are bigger problems in the rules, like the fifty zillion contradictions. He also allows illegal file sharing but doesn't allow legal drug discussion. moot is a strange one, and I suspect it's largely due to ignorance.

>>10209841
Just read the whole thing, it's not that long and it's poetic and it's worth it just for the prose.

>>10209848
Because copyright violation is a civil offense, not a criminal offense. So it's not really illegal, you can just be sued for it. moot knows more than you do, apparently.

>>10207336
I miss Rune / Cage.
Yurine and Watashi no Puni Puni are hawt.

>>10207336
Tanuki-Soft started nice. But they're growing older and older lately.

>>10209853
It's a criminal offense under the DMCA. That's one of the reasons people were so ticked off by it.

>>10209879
No, it just criminalizes bypassing access controls.

>>10209753
I'm pretty sure you'd be disappointed if you played a Lolita VN based on the actual novel.

>>10209895
Like what?An adaptation?

Anybody even made any VNs adapted on some previous book?

>>10209890
My apologies, I got mixed up with the Copyright Act:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/copyright/copyright.act.chapt5.html#17usc506

Fairly certain it increased these penalties, though. The maximum fine is $500,000 or something ridiculous.

>>10209895
Depends on if you like NTR or not.

>>10209904
That protagonist sounds like a real self hating guy too.

>>10209908
He only gets like that in the final chapter.

>>10209908
Not really, he's mostly arrogant. Always going on about how good looking and smart he is. He shamelessly talks about <s>impregnating Delores so he can fuck the daughter, then doing the same thing again so he can have nymphets for the rest of his life.</s> He doesn't get depressed until he actually stops to think about what he's done and wonder why <s>she was always hoarding money to try to run away, and eventually chose a nasty child pornographer over him</s>.

Contrary to popular belief from people who only read the wiki page, this is NOT a nice story.

>>10209932
Don't forget about that one part where he wants to rip her intestines out so he can feel every part of her body.

>>10209975
That part is so easy to forget that even Nabokov forgot to put it in, which raises serious questions of how canon it can be considered.

>>10209932
>He doesn't get depressed until he actually stops to think about what he's done and wonder why <s>she was always hoarding money to try to run away, and eventually chose a nasty child pornographer over him.</s>
Why did she? Is there an official theory? Do you have a different one?
Also I'd recommend the movie "Innocence" for /jp/'s viewing pleasure. It is a memorable and unique watch and can be thought-provoking if you allow it to be.

>>10209983
Don't make me go through the whole book to find it. I'm going to do it anyway just to make you happy.

>My only grudge against nature was that I could not turn my Lolita inside out and apply voracious lips to her young matrix, her unknown heart, her nacreous liver, the sea-grapes of her lungs, her comely twin kidneys.

There you go.

/a/: Almost all loli threads are perfectly fine and defended by its users.
/jp/, the more niche otaku board: There's one obsessive autistic guy who manages to shit up EVERY thread by arguing it is illegal to even discuss.

>>10209994
I thought /a/ hates loli.

>>10209994
Against the rules != illegal

>>10209989
She wanted to be a Hollywood actress (you know this from the very beginning) and the guy promised to get her into show biz.

>>10209989
Humbert seems to think that it's because she hated him and <s>thought that he killed her mother</s>, which isn't really an outrageous conclusion to jump to, given that <s>she described her mother as murdered and that she was unimpressed by his denial</s>.

>>10209993
That's a bit hard to summarize as "rip her intestines out" though.

>>10209993
>You will never love loli this much

>>10209994
>/jp/, the more niche otaku board: There's one obsessive autistic guy who manages to shit up EVERY thread by arguing it is illegal to even discuss.

It's probably just investment banker or ISM having given up on tripfagging.

>>10210016
I'm not asking why, I'm stating that Humbert was obsessing over the question. It was like the first thing he asked her when he met her again.

>>10210017
Turn inside out and rip intestines out are basically describing the same action.

>>10209819
>>10209841
There are two sex scenes. In the first one she was drugged up but wakes up and they do it anyway, if I recall correctly.

The second one is way more explicit, considering the time it was written. H.H. even mentions Dolores managed his "tool". (I'm not sure how the wording was in English, I read it translated into my native language.)

This is why I argue that if Lolita is legal in your country, then so is most lolicon material. It's the same: Fictional material with artistic merit which includes sexually explicit passages, it's just that one is presented in another form (i.e. drawing, and not writing).

>>10210043
It was a placebo, she was just tired.

>>10210043
If it's e-lit people are looking for, just browse around ASSTR. Just because Lolita is a novel about a controversial subject does not mean that it is fap material.

I thought that The Enchanter was just as good as Lolita. I wonder why no one cares enough to scan it.

Hmmm...so are there any more books with loli material?
Even better if it's something old or Victorian or something.

>>10209848
>He also allows illegal file sharing but doesn't allow legal drug discussion.

It's kinda like how he allows loli art on /b/ but posting the cover to The Scorpion's "Virgin Breaker" is an autoban even though it's legal and even allowed on wikipedia.

>>10210050
>ASSTR

Post the ``Mary Kate and Ashley get gangraped by genetically-engineered wolves'' one.

>>10210057
Romeo and Juliet. Juliet was basically lolita's age.

>>10210067
It will never again be fine for a 22-year-old man to fall in love with a 13-year-old girl, or to even write plays about it.

>>10210067
I thought that's a play, anyway, that makes me wonder if any VN ever used the Romeo and Juliet story as the storyline.
Dance In the Vampire Bund manga reminds me of Underworld with those wolves and vampires, but I don't remember if they were enemies.

>>10210067
Sort of... not really. Sure, Juliet was canon flat (which was probably just a joke that a guy was playing her), but she was 14, almost 15, as opposed to 12.

>>10210088
Nope, Juliet was 13 bro.

>>10210049
Are you sure? I remember he tried to drug her quite clearly. Maybe I'm not remembering it well...

Who's the artist for Score? They seem very similar to the old games by Rune.

>>10210093
13 almost 14 then.

>>10210099
He tried to drug her, but it turned out he had a placebo because the doctor thought he was a hypochondriac or something. Otherwise, there is no way the drug would have worn off that quickly since he tested a weaker version on Big Lo and it worked fine.

>>10209384

Hilarious. This law would be crushed to dust if challenged in court.

The way this is written, you cannot have pornography of petite women who look loli, but aren't. Secondly, but less imperative (as it were) an issue, making a drawing of a loli having sex does not do measurable harm to anyone, where CP does. This seems like one of those laws that were passed and either not used as a primary means for conviction, or not challenged.

>>10209998
https://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/76098866
(Not deleted, has nothing to do with anime or manga)

https://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/76368142

https://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/76211769

>>10210057
`Wake of the Raven' is about a moralfag British WWII veteran stranded on an island with a precocious 10 year old. After a few weeks, he begins to love her.

Don't believe the Amazon reviews that say that there isn't sex. There may not be actual intercourse going on <s>because she asked him not to,</s> but <s>she sucks his cock and he comes on her chest, all in graphic detail</s>.

>>10210130
Bear in mind the law was created after the previous law was struck down. I'm not sure whether that makes it less or more retarded, but I'm leaning toward "more".

As for the petite women thing, minor is defined as "any person under the age of eighteen years". There have been borderline cases with women who look younger, but you can get away with a disclaimer or proving their age. It's that "appears to be" that I'm worried about. I remember reading something about a ban on flat-chested porn in Canada or Australia.

>>10210152
Australia is a full retarded police State. They also sentenced a guy for like 10 years imprisonment for Simpsons porn, like banning flat-chested porn wasn't absurd enough. Don't mind them.

>>10210154
Blowjobs do not count as sex.

>>10210166
Not even if she swallows? Anyway, in a different scene he does some really lewd but non-penetrative things with her that she really enjoyed, and he came on her again.

>>10210166

Did Clinton teach you that?

>>10210154
i'd like to read that part

>>10210154
Man, my library doesn't carry it and there isn't an ebook. I might have to buy a print version.

>>10210130
>The way this is written, you cannot have pornography of petite women who look loli, but aren't.

Being attracted to youth in any form is evil, even youthful looking adults.

>>10210175
Rather than reading the book, just post those scenes. They can't be that long.

Does she nick his dick because she doesn't know anything about sucking dicks?

>>10210218
Recently I realized there are a lot of women in their twenties who look like they're 12. Unfortunately, their bodies are more developed. It's mostly a face thing.

>>10210211
Fap before you purchase.

>>10210218
Either that or no porn at all, because I would be happy if everyone was equally miserable.

In Red Dwarf it's implied that page 61 of Lolita is the good bit, so someone post page 61.

>>10210236
You mean the part where he strokes her legs while she eats an apple?

>>10210225
>Recently I realized there are a lot of women in their twenties who look like they're 12.
This is because people have a bad idea of what a 12 year old looks like. Hell if you ask a lot of people to point out someone who is 12, they'll probably point out an 9 year old. These kinds of people don't really see much difference between 7 and 14.

People in their 20s are barely out of teen years. There's no reason they shouldn't look like young teens in their late teens or that they should like wrinkled hags in their twenties.

It's a side effect of those thoughts of the magical age of 18 where you suddenly go into puberty and gain all the knowledge of the world that was previously hidden from you.

>Unfortunately, their bodies are more developed
No they aren't.

Although I used to know someone in their 20s who looked like an outright "11 year old" in face, height, and body. They just never grew even from the time I knew they were in middle school. I wonder if they still look like that now.

>>10210211
I know, it's pretty obscure. I'd scan it if I cared more or knew how to do it without debinding it. Don't worry though, it's not exactly a great novel. It's alright and we can probably relate to his struggles a little bit, but don't expect any great prose.

>>10210222
>>10210188
This is probably all I'll post. It's kinda hard to find in here. There's so many words and it's been a while since I read it.

>>10210218

Yeah, but then you would be restricting the freedoms of legal, consenting adults who look like children for no reason. Wouldn't hold its ground in a courtroom: 14th amendment and all.

Anybody read The End Of Alice?

>>10210268
No. Go away. You depress and disturb me.

>>10210257
what's with all the typos and grammatical errors in the book

>>10210255
I would probably point out a six year old.

>>10210257
Does it end happy? Description says something about murder and suicide.

>>10210257
Wow it's worse than eromanga writing. The author isn't female, is it?

>>10210296

>>10210255
>or that they should like wrinkled hags in their twenties.

There shouldn't be a reason, but when it happens, boy howdy, does it happen. I have wrinkles and greying patches at the age of 22.

>>10210310
It depends on how much stress you suffer.

>>10210283
I'm pretty sure it's self-published. The I cannot find the website for the publisher, "Angry Orchid Publishing", despite being published in 2007. The author has a hotmail email address on the copyright page, and the cover (which has obvious JPEG artifacts and was enlarged without anti-aliasing) is copyrighted by the author too.

I think it's safe to say that there is no editor.

>>10210285
Maybe. <s>After a plane passes by and notices them, he goes a little insane with worry about what will happen to him after he gets rescued. He first thinks that it would have been better if she hadn't survived, but then considers suicide but doesn't. He calms down by morning and they get rescued. She still thinks that he will be able to stay with him and is unashamed about their relationship. What happens after that is unknown. <s>They were probably found out, then she was sent to an orphanage in SE Asia to work as a sex slave while he was sent to Britain to die in prison.</s></s>

>>10210296
Graham Worthington.

>>10210313
Clichéd but very true, in my case at least.

>>10210310
Are you a girl? If so semen can help those wrinkles. Come to the next /jp/ meetup and we'll see what we can do.

I don't hate on loli and fap to it like everyone in this thread.
But there's no denying that you fap to representations of young girls, this doesn't make you a fucking ken-sama approved pedosamurai/lolicon, it just makes you a human who happens to enjoy child porn, that is, in this case, drawn, and as such not illegal, you'd still get hard at a horny loli, deny this as much as you want it's still the truth.

>>10210340
The horny lolis don't go for guys like me, so it's all good. Being unable to get laid also means being unable to screw kids, so being a geek finally has benefits.

>>10210340
No, real children are disgusting.

>>10210339

I'm a man of Slavic hertige with wrinkles and my hair cut high-and-tight; the afore-posted image is a rough approximation of how I look.

>>10210257

Would you get excited if I saw your special parts /jp/?

>>10210257
Can you at least post all(/most/some) sex scenes here? Or is the book ALL sex scenes?

>>10210340
It must be sad to be a pedo, trying so hard to get anyone to accept them.

Cartoons aren't CP. Lolis aren't even necessarily under 18.

If so many guys grow up to be virgins in their twenties, and women are largely sluts who lost their virginity by 14, and kidsex is illegal, who's having sex with the girls to make them into sluts?

>>10210164
>>10210152
It was Australia, but according to aussies that post on the chans, it was struck down. Still insane that such a thing was conceived in the first place though. Also, doesn't Canada treat all manga as CP?

>>10210382
Sure thing, ken-sama approved pedosamruai you fap to thoughtforms and amorphous amoebas that just happen to be somehow linked to reality by complete accident.
I'm okay with people being delusional, but not when they force their delusions upon others and hate everyone for it.

>>10210367

You are correct, sir. That's why most sane people, if they're honest, find a certain attraction coming from the 'butter zone' just as sexual maturity is being reached... Of course in females it happens slightly earlier than males, which is completely fine.

>>10210393
the alpha males
havent you ever seen a nature show

>>10210393

Uuuuh.... classmates?

I liked the kids having sex in "It" by Stephen King. The point of Beverly fucking everyone was to show their coming of age, and I like that sort of thing. One of my hobbies is probing into early-teens' sex lives on Omegle's spy mode. Sometimes you get that wonderful combination of a 13-year-old virgin girl and a slightly older non-virgin girl, and they talk about what sex is like. It's wonderful.

>>10210413
I don't have a Facebook but if I ever get one it would be for the sole purpose of stalking little girls for this very reason.

>>10210379
There is only, like, two sex scenes, and that was the most explicit.

>>10210393
>>10210393
We have a polygamist sect taking all the women and feminizing the men with a hormone drenched water supply. I'm not pointing fingers but in my educated opinion it was the jews.

>>10210393
It isn't statutory rape if they aren't caught ;_;

>>10210257

Poorly written, but epic.

>>10210460
Depends on if there is a statue of limitations for rape or not.

>>10210496
i dont think there's a statue like that anywhere

>>10210506

>>10210399
>Sure thing, ken-sama approved pedosamruai you fap to thoughtforms and amorphous amoebas that just happen to be somehow linked to reality

I fap to concepts not based in reality at all. The world doesn't have lifelike robots, actual maids who serve you and wear maid dresses, or people with animal ears. Heck I DO fap to amorphous amoebas sometimes.

>>10209508
This is one of the worst cases of trying to shitpost ever. Get the fuck out of here, kiddie.

Need moar loli books.
Never read lolita though I'll get on it soon I promise.

>>10210512
And the picture that you posted isn't inspired by anything at all, right? Stop being a fucking retard, you're fapping to represnetiations of real children, no matter how unreal and distanced from reality, fags that fap to drawn bulky muscly men aren't gay too, by yourr retarded /a/ logic.

>>10210382
>It must be sad to be a pedo, trying so hard to get anyone to accept them.
I own a company and used to have a manager charge at a bank, have a large amount of acquaintances from work, college and even high school, and I am decent looking. Sadly I don't have a car because I have to pay monthly for actions.
Yet nobody knows I come home and play loli VNs and fap to them, and nobody has ever noticed that I breath strong and fastly when I see a blonde little girl running around.

>>10210655
>I own a company and used to have a manager charge at a bank
We know it's you Investment Banker. Back to /banned.

>>10210665
I don't know who that is. I hate investment because it involves risk. The actions I bought are old, and I plan to retire them when it lowers.

When it comes down to laws, one is legal and one isn't. Sorry pedos.
>>10210382
It's just like how mlp fags tried to say that they are the same as animefans or homestuck fans to get less hate.

>>10210665

Off-topic, but I believe there were two Investment Bankers. I only consider the first one from years ago to be genuine.

>>10210686
>It's just like how mlp fags tried to say that they are the same as animefans or homestuck fans to get less hate.
Why is their past time comparing themselves to /jp/, anyway?
>>>/q/328914

Also no one like homestuck fans either.

>>10210713
They have the mentality that social outcasts, no matter what hobby they have, should stick together.

>>10210713
I could barely tell what OP was about but I think it's because we're both boards everybody thinks are shit.

OP here, should I delete this thread and try again? This whole thing derailed into shit.

>>10210789
Leave it up as an example of what steps not to take during a loli vn discussion.

>>10209566
wat game?

>>10210805
ないしょのないしょ

>>10210789
Delete it, start a new one.

>>10210789
Don't delete it, the same thing will happen.

>>10210789
Remake it later but keep this thread up

>>10210821
Thanks.

>>10209800
Well I'm not strictly from /jp/ (/a/non here) but I've read most of it. The writing style is great, but I haven't finished it yet because I always get distracted. Fuck you 4chan. ;_;

>>10209800
Lolita is an amazing book, but don't read it for the loli sex.

>>10210057
Gravity's Rainbow. Really hot loli bj scene. Probably lots of others too but that one sticks in my mind as being arousing as fuck.

Monobeno
I even bought two daki from it.

>>10210057
Firefly by Piers Anthony (a fucking terrible book, like everything that stupid faggot writes) has a penetrative sex scene between a five year old and a man. Presented as a recording of her court testimony. It has no relation to the story, it's just the ramblings of some deranged woman to an impotent retard (really). May or may not be true, it was really vague. Fuck you, Piers. Piers Anthony is very pro-pedo, despite being a normal, and makes note of this in the afterword.

I'll have to go a little older to name more. Evolution's Darling (scifi) has a spaceship AI having sex with a 14 year old girl. There's also lots of other freaky robot sex, but with women. Anne Rice (of Interview with a Vampire) wrote Belinda, which is about the love affair of a famous children's author\artist and a 15 year old girl (though he seems to like them younger).

I can't really think of anymore with true lolies.

For shit I haven't read, but was recommended on a now-defunct imageboard that is probably a banword now (12), I offer the following, but they may or may not contain explicit material: Prisoner of Innocence by Donna Montegna, Nude Men by Amanda Filipacchi (seduction of man by 11yo), Dream Children by Dream Children (seduction of 3yo by philosopher who's doing it just because), and Roger Fishbite by Emily Prager (I could never get any coherent meaning out of a summary but apparently a 13yo girl is seduced by her stepfather).

Perhaps we need a thread on /book/ for this. It could use a thread.

>>10211028
>12
I seriously miss that chan. The onion version is too slow and troll infested.

>>10211028
Do they read lolibooks on /lit/? I was going to ask there first buuuuuut.....
Anyway, someday I'll write to most lolitastic book ever. I've had to refrain from it so my writing teachers didn't think I was some kind of weird freak.

>>10207434
shit are you trying to seduce me to the minotaur with those links/

>>10211046
I don't know, I don't go there. The one time I did, it was complete garbage `your favorite book is shit' troll threads that no one could ignore, and writing. I only know one's I've found by lurking imageboards for several years and collecting slowly.

>>10211028
>banword
12chan test

>>10210340
I fap to incest but I feel nothing sexual towards any of my siblings at all. They aren't disfigured either. It's just way too real. I don't even like photorealism, the more of a sketch or handrawn feel it has, the better it is.

>>10211079
Of course!

>>10209746
>NTR loli

Does such a thing exist?

>>10211081
Recommend me something. I am a fan of NTR.

>>10211028
Not exactly loli, but in Our Friends from Frolix 8 by Philip K Dick, the main character leaves his wife and kid for Charlotte, a 16 year old girl who he fucks in the park. The ending was really good though. <s>She dies in a car crash shortly after while the Frolixians do their magic and MC has an emotional conversation with the disabled dudes.</s>

>>10210789
Don't delete it. The obsessive autist guy will just shit it up again.

I also know this guy got here in 2011 because I don't remember anyone fighting against loli threads this bad in 2008~2010.

>>10211663
Yeah man, /jp/ loved pedophiles in the past!

We also always greentexted and THAT FEEL used to be our most epic meme. Fucking newfags, trying too hard.

>>10211922
Check the archives you newfag, you'll be fucking surprised, turbotard.

>>10209371
When my older brother was ramming his dick up my ass and down my throat or when my uncle was touching me, they surely used drawn cartoons to force me to do it. Fuck off back to where you came from!

Did /jp/ decide on who the better twin is?
Ren or Hazuki

>>10212971
Nobody has played it. Fuck off with your hype.

>>10212974
Leave this thread please

>>10211922
>/jp/ loved pedophiles in the past!

You are such a gigantic dumbshit fucker that I don't know where to begin. Loli had always been discussed without issue on 4chan, just like everything else related to anime. It wasn't until cunts like you came along and started complaining about it and equating it to pedophilia that there started to be problems with loli threads. Fuck you.

>>10212971
The blonde one is kind of ultra-slutty, so I prefer the silver-haired one.

>>10211922
>Fucking newfags, trying too hard.
Trying harder could have kept you from embarassing yourself, newfag.

>>10212971
Hazuki

>>10212971
Hazuki.

Does anyone else dislike loli because a bunch of people started liking it?
They sort of ruined it with their lewdness

>>10213840
You are the ultimate hipster. Congrats man.

>>10212982
/jp/ stands for just pedo.

>>10213866
I was thinking that but I didn't want to be mean.

>>10213840
Do what I did and switch to toddler.

>>10211922
>We also always greentexted and THAT FEEL

Confirmed for troll.

>>10212971

Isn't that called.....Oh hell, I forget what it's called when you bait people with things like LO.

Bump.

>>10213840
Nope.

>>10214243
It's called reading together.
Teachers are always complaining about kids not reading these days, so it takes a loving onii chan to get lolis interested.

>>10217942

Grooming... that's the word I was looking for.

>>10218275
A man tried to groom me when I was 9.

>>10218284

I groom my dog all the time. I think it's normal.

>>10218294

>>10218284
Over the internet or IRL?

>>10218344

Must have been via some dial-in BBS or IRC. I can't imagine he was 9 when the web was already present. If so, that's pretty damn funny.

>>10218442
People born in the late 80s/early 90s make up the majority of /jp/.

>>10218452

Not 8 years ago... Don't mind me, just being an ass.

>>10212971
Is that an H game? They look like they're 5.

Should I casually mention this on ADTRW? I'd like to see their reaction.

I have a regdate of 2004, so I doubt I'd be banned (not that I care any more).

>>10218504

Haven't been paying attention, have you? Take a look at the title of the thread there chief.

>>10218542
Do all VNs have H content?

>>10218504
Girls with the appearance of a 4-12 year old are called loli, newfriend.

>>10218582
I don't think people normally call preschoolers loli. You might be looking for "toddlercon"

>>10218554
Well no of course not and I suppose you're right we can include titles like Little Witch Parfait
http://vndb.org/v873
Princess Maker
http://vndb.org/v728
and Sister Princess
http://vndb.org/v4681

as pretty damn good loli VNs.

>>10218554
It's the loli part that implies sexual content.

Some of what I post here will be redundant. Someone else will have already posted it.

Anyway this is my opinion. The best loli game of all time is Musume Shimai. Impregnate your blood related loli daughters one of which barely had her first period. HOLY SHIIIIIIT

Second best is The God of Death. This one takes some stomach since it's some serious mindbreak shit. Like, raping lolis then throwing them in a bathtub full of centipedes. Some messed up shit but still some very amazing sex and gorgeous lolis. If you have the stomach for it it's fantastic.

Mei Shoujo. Not as good as Musume Shimai but the same writer and artist. It tries.

Komorebi ni Yureru. It is the Shakespeare of loli. Seriously.

Futago Ecchi. You get seduced by your twin loli cousins until you can't stand it any more, all your morality breaks, and you make them both pregnant then marry them both. The guys who wrote it has an obvious piss fetish. It's great to see how long this guy can take it before he snaps.

Kodomo Milk Parfait. Holy shit, Yuko Goto voicing a 10 year old? They don't even try to pretend she's really 18? Pure ecstasy.

Imouto Pet Repure. Same as above except no Yuko Goto. In fact to hell with it, most every title by Sakuranbo Shougakkou fits in here except the weird ones like Kagikko Shoujo and The Girl and the World.

>>10220962
.cont


Futaba Channel. YOU are the lolis. Futaba Channel 3 is epic because on the primary route it's pure yuri, loli grinding on loli goodness. Goddamn.

Pure and Holy Angel Primity Miel. Massive amounts of loli tentacle rape. Sadly much too much blood or it would be better. Same with Magical Girl Miracle Yuitto also by Magical Girl (the company).

Otome Crisis. Again, YOU are the lolis except this time you're also a rapist who rapes other girls. Seriously, who thinks of this shit? We love you!

Musumaker. Raise lolis to work in a brothel. It's actually kinda sad when you think about it. Poor lolis. Still, great sex and the lolis are cute as hell.

Pure My Imouto Milk Purun. The lolis have dicks? . . . Who cares?

I've played more but can't think of em all here.

>>10220963
>Musumaker. Raise lolis to work in a brothel. It's actually kinda sad when you think about it. Poor lolis. Still, great sex and the lolis are cute as hell.

You can get through the entire game without whoring them out, but it needs planning.

>>10212981
>>10212982
>>10214197
Yep. The fact he got banned and had all his posts deleted shows it.

I doubt he will be able to derail these threads anymore after this incident.

>>10220963
Wasn't Pure my Imouto shota traps?
Not that anyone would care...

Anyone play 白詰草話-EPISODE OF THE CLOVERS-? It seems to have an English patch so I'm going to download it.

>>10219139
You only call it toddlercon when they are actually toddlers. 4 years old is not a toddler anymore.

>>10221681
Correction patch isn't done yet.
Fffuuuuuu

>>10221686
They aren't lolis either. Even calling 1st and 2nd grade loli is a bit of a stretch.

Pic related: Not a loli.

Lets get this straightened out:
Toddler - 1-3 yrs
loli - 4-11 yrs.

>>10221728
Lolita was literally 12.

Stop coming up with age ranges because nobody will ever agree.

If you are sexually attracted to someone under the age of 18, you are a pedophile. This does not make you a bad person, it just means you are sexually attracted to a minor. Accept what you are instead of saying "b-b-b-but i'm an ephebophile!!!"
The sooner you admit it the sooner the media will get over this moral panic.

>>10221709
1st graders are definitely lolis

>>10221709
Of course hes not a loli, hes a guy.
As often as you hear "autism" on this board, most of the people here don't have it.

>>10221709
Yeah, Anzu is a toddler. She is even wearing diapers.
>>10221728
This.
Pic related it's a loli.

>>10221740
https://tips.fbi.gov/

Should we bring up the creation of a loli board to /q/?

There was a meeting of the boards on /b/ and they were seriously discussing it, unfortunately nobody was there representing /jp/.

I'd personally be for an /l/ board, seeing the crap it sometimes gets here in /jp/ and the fact I like to avoid /b/ as much as possible.

Thoughts?

>>10221729
Yes but that was written before the recent trend of girls maturing quickly. Even some 11 year olds look 16 now.

>>10221740
Don't post that shit here.

>>10221709
They are only called toddlers up to 3 years old so anything after that is a loli.

>>10221738
"minor" is an invention of man, not nature. Puberty is nature, so if you are attracted to someone post-puberty, you are normal.

>>10221740

>>10221750
You are not normal. Normal has a statistical meaning. It does not mean "natural" or "something I do/don't like".

Humans murder each other in nature, but that's obviously not okay in Western civilization.

>>10221738
From the DSM-IV
Criteria for Pedophilia:
A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).

B. The person has acted on these urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.

C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.

I myself like 6-8 year old lolis the best, so I understand being labeled a pedophile. But liking someone that's like 15 does not make you a pedophile.

>>10221750
Note that "Pedophilia" is also an invention of man. It makes sense that arbitrary definitions can be based off other arbitrary definitions.

Have more loli.

>>10221740
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A
Any person who knowingly distributes a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value; shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A (b)(1), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction.

Whoever violates, or attempts or conspires to violate, paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (6) of subsection (a) shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years but, if such person has a prior conviction under this chapter, section 1591, chapter 71section 1591, chapter 71, chapter 109A, or chapter 117, or under section 920 of title 10 (article 120 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), or under the laws of any State relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct involving a minor or ward, or the production, possession, receipt, mailing, sale, distribution, shipment, or transportation of child pornography, or sex trafficking of children, such person shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not less than 15 years nor more than 40 years.

>>10221755
Then what about countries with the age at 16 or 13? 18 is relative because only some countries are like that, and even in the states, some states are 16-17. So you can't put an actual age on this because all girls grow up at different rates.

Not a loli anymore.

>>10221760
You forgot the weird note about 13-year-olds.

In the DSM-5, they also sneaked in hebephilia:
http://www.dsm5.org/Lists/ProposedRevision/DispForm.aspx?ID=186
>prepubescent or early pubescent children

>>10221762
This guys a rebel.

>>10221765
Please don't start this shit.
If you want 3D shit, and want to defend your 3D shit, there's always 12chan.

>>10221740
>>10221762
Hardcore as fuck, /b/ro.

Got any gore? Fapfapfap.

>>10221790
Aren't you cute. First week?

>>10221740
Anzu is 5 and not wearing diapers. They are stylized giant kid panties.

>>10221788
He didn't really mention 3D.

Are men who masturbate to yaoi gay? Yes they are.
Are men who masturbate to loli pedophiles? Yes they are.

I don't know why lolicons feel the need to justify this. It's your fetish/paraphilia, it's harmless. I'm heterosexual but I have next to no interest in 3D women. What I don't do is pretend I'm not heterosexual, but something else.

>>10221788
I wasn't defending 3D, how'd you get that? I was merely pointing out a flaw in that guy's reasoning.

Please stop trying to fit in too hard.

>>10221798
Her age doesn't matter only her appearnce does.

>>10221793
yea man i heard on fox news that 4chan is a pedo hang out

keep dumping bro, this shit's epic

inb4 partyv&

>>10221804
This. I don't care if you like loli, but keep it off the board. This isn't /b/.

>>10221806
You heard right.

Ugh we're totally going to lose this thread.

>>10221793
H-Hina?!!?

>>10221808

I enjoy loli dumps but this isn't the thread or the place for it. I don't want this thread to be deleted.

>>10221818
I don't want the board to get deleted.

/c/ almost got axed once because of all the loli.

Why do you faggots have to ruin it for the rest of us? There are other sites if you want loli.

>>10221824
/jp/ was created for loli

>>10221827
/jp/ is a blue board.

Please don't sexualize cute things.

>>10221831
Cuteness is inherently sexual

>>10221835
How can you say something so lewd?

>>10221738
What's wrong with the original 9-14 definition? Lolita wasn't written that long ago. A 14 year old would not have been prepubescent by any measure. Humbert was clearly not literally pedo. If the very name sake is about pubescent girls, relating it to prepubescent is asinine.

Loli is pubescent, pedo is prepubescent. Stop trying to conflate the two. You could argue that 9 and 10 are overlapping pedo, but really, stop trying to call loli something it isn't.

>>10221842
"Lolicon" is the Japanese word for "pedophile".

>>10221842
Pubescent or not, they still haven't developed psychologically. You're still taking advantage.

Stick to 2D.

>>10221845
No it isn't, English just has no word for it. Pedophile refers to both genders, lolicon is just girls.

>>10221854
Don't they teach kids about sex when they're about 9 now?

Plenty of adults have sex and don't understand it or regret it. Why is that fine?

Not that I'm pro-pedophilia, I just think it's hypocritical as fuck. In fact, kids shouldn't receive any sort of sex education beyond "Your bodies will bleed and get hairy. Deal with it."

>>10221854
It's not psychological development, they can have and enjoy sex if properly educated.
Sex becomes scary when your barred from it for so long and it suddenly comes.

>>10221845
>>10221859
"pedo" is the japanese word for pedophile. That and 小児愛者.

Lolicon is a tenuous phrase that can denote people who like young women, young looking women, schoolgirls, schoolgirl paraphernalia, or just flat chested women.

This is a grown woman. You'd be called a lolicon for liking her.

>>10221890
Isn't she canonically 16/17?

Anyway, she still looks like a minor. Laws are written to account for that.

>>10221854
>Pubescent or not, they still haven't developed psychologically. You're still taking advantage.

A: I didn't say anythign about it being okay. It's just not pedophilia. Anyone who says it is is a troll or a pedophile.

B: It's what the law says it is, not what you feel.

C:, and I'm not defending it, but "psychologically" is bullshit made up by a sexually restrictive society that places weird values on female virgins. No other animal needs a tutorial before sex. Dogs just get a dick put in them at puberty and wonder what the fuck that huge swelling is linking them to the other dog. Other animals would be so lucky as to have that nice an experience. They learn what sex entails thereafter. I'm pretty sure a 12 year old can reasonably answer the question "do you want a large object to penetrate your vagina/ass/mouth, y/n?"

Rape is just rape.

>>10221909
She is canonically 18(via in story birthday) and makes a point of it because she can legally buy her adult (loli?) VNs she loves playing at that point.

What's with all the disgusting normalfags on /jp/ lately?

>>10222667
I have no idea, but I wish they would all be banned. Hard.