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1020374 No.1020374 [Reply] [Original]

What exactly is moe? Is it like cuteness?

>> No.1020380

Just look at the picture you posted.

>> No.1020382

this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gzqGuJY3qc&fmt=18

>> No.1020388

>>1020380
That wouldn't be the first thing I'd call "moe."

>> No.1020393

>>1020388
You're supposed to play along.

>> No.1020407

Moe lost all its meaning over the years, just like the words "epic" and "emo."

>> No.1020413
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>> No.1020417

>>1020407
Epic moe emo

>> No.1020418

http://shii.org/moe
Shii knows everything!

>> No.1020425

>>1020413

R.I.P. Hotaru Maniac.

>> No.1020426

>>1020413

Hotarufag?

>> No.1020437

It’s the mustache。 That is moe~

>> No.1020443

>>1020418
Does he know how to not be a creepy bastard?

>> No.1020441

Cute character you'd like to fuck.

And if there is not anything sexual, it just plain cute.

>> No.1020483

Cuteness you want to protect/destroy.

>> No.1020485

>>1020437
Lol Abe.

>> No.1020502

Actually, I have a ponytail moe.

>> No.1020505
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This is moe~

>> No.1020515
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MOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.1020516

moe is basically just a cuteness fetish. That's really all there is to it. It's still sexual objectification, it just plays on different emotions.

>> No.1020524

>>1020516
You're defining it incorrectly.

>> No.1020533

>>1020516
>It's still sexual objectification
Not it's not, but it's now been made that way. Kinda like the faggots that sage a thread like it's supposed to mean something.

>> No.1020536
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This is moe. ♥

>> No.1020537
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1020537

Moe~ is the burning feeling in your heart that this image gives you

>> No.1020540

Moe~ is when you want to torture something till it begs you to end their life.

>> No.1020542
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1020542

This is moe~

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>> No.1020579
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Moe is not the same as cute. It's a term difficult to translate, used to encompass the feeling of wanting to care for something and protect it. It is usually attached to image of cute little girls, although other moe "factors" are frailty, innocence, etc.

Moe may or may not evoke sexual arousal, it really depends on who you ask and what they consider moe.

>> No.1020606

>>1020533

This. BUT:

People often find it hard to explain moe, OP. If something is moe, it holds the attributes which yeild the kind of attraction you get to something that's cute. Unfortunately, what moe IS cannot simply be defined and is usually subjective or varries from person to person. It's usually not something that can be labled. It's almost like a spirit.

Let's delve deeper:

Gar, a newer term, is like moe, but used when something is so fucking manly/virtuous it hurts. Prime examples of gar are Kamina, Chuck Norris and Captain Falcon.

Moe is the female form of gar. It is the most ideal form of femininity, usually punctuated by being exceedingly cute.

See Miyazaki Nodoka, Asihana Mikuru, Yuki Nagato, Rukia, that vocaloid chick, etc. All of these are prime examples of moe, HOWEVER, moe comes in many forms and is not exclusively limited to young girls nor one specific archetypal ideology. (Though it usually is.) It may also include stronger girls, such as Setsuna Sakurazaki, Asuka, or even teh Rei.

It's all about psychology.

>> No.1020612

just watch any shitty kyoani show to become a moe master. essentially its gao~, uguu~, ahuu~, etc. in response i usually RAGE and want to destroy

>> No.1020616

>>1020606
ಠ_ಠ

>> No.1020620

>>1020606
Yandere moe~

>> No.1020624

>>1020606
Go fuck yourself

>> No.1020627

>>1020515
Source man, source. His face is awesome.

>> No.1020631

>>1020606
Eh, I disagree with almost all of your examples of both moe and gar. Especially Kamina. If stupidity is what makes someone GAR, then Kamina is qualified, otherwise he's not.

>All of these are prime examples of moe
Funny, I found all of them annoying sluts. Mikuru was so obviously a moeblob that it turned me off her, and Yuki was too boring. Moeblobs in general aren't that moe.

So yeah, pretty subjective, I suppose. Or you just watch shitty shows.

>> No.1020632

>>1020606
>See Miyazaki Nodoka, Asihana Mikuru, Yuki Nagato, Rukia, that vocaloid chick, etc. All of these are prime examples of sluts
Fixed.

>> No.1020633
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1020633

This is ℳℴℯ❤

>> No.1020640
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1020640

>Prime examples of gar are Kamina, Chuck Norris and Captain Falcon.
No, gar is Archer.

>> No.1020646

>>1020640
That club axe is too small, but I still see lightning so it's all good.

>> No.1020647

>>1020606
your a faggot and completely wrong

>> No.1020648

>>1020631
To further expand: Your GAR examples fail as well, I only got as far as Kamina on the first time reading it. Chuck Norris isn't GAR, christ, how old are you? For a real life actor that's close to GAR, I suggest Charles Bronson. But that's neither here nor there.

You obviously haven't read Berserk, Fist of the North Star, Blade of the Immortal or similar series to list those failures you did as GAR.

>> No.1020659

I think image tags on image boards like danbooru are one example of moe: by an individual a character is basically broken down to easily identifiable and appealing traits.

>> No.1020674

>>1020640
This, no one else is gar.

>> No.1020682
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1020682

I'm a fan of robot/computer girl moe. Aigis, Reverie, Miku, Sora, etc

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>>1020640
Perspective is somewhat fucked, that's why.

Another example.

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>>1020627

Candy Girl by Michiro Chikasato.

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I do not take responsability for the damage this image may cause you.

>> No.1020707

Ultimate GAR:
Master Asia
Guts
Dio Brando
Giovanni
Spike Spiegel

>> No.1020712

>>1020707
Fuckingstupid.jpg

except for Guts, Spike and Dio.
Archer is superior.

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>>1020699

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>>1020699
AAAAHGNNNNSFNGHNNNNNGGGGG

>> No.1020717

>>1020707
GAR-y Motherfucking Oak.

>> No.1020724

>>1020717
Gary was here, anonymous is a loser!

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>>1020699
PEM time?

>> No.1020738

>>1020699
NNNNGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>1020725
Why the fuck would you want to prove your point with such a horrible example.
As much as I love Guts, this is fucking saigar, damnit.

>> No.1020748

>>1020725
HUGE GUTS
RIP AND TEAR

>> No.1020752

>>1020730
Out of curiosity, were you "Moe<3 The official /a/ tripfag - accept no imitations" or something like that back in old /a/?

>> No.1020759

>>1020690
Thanks man.

>> No.1020760

>>1020606

8/10

Very subtle.

>> No.1020761

I know Master Asia has always been the GAR canidate from G but..I'm gar for Domon.
"This hand of mine is burning red! It's loud roar tells me to grasp victory! And now..THE END!"

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>>1020752
No, that wasn't me, you can still see him post from time to time over here.

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1020772

Kaiji is moe.

>> No.1020776

>>1020761
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnVCYOUB0gY
;_;<3
"This hand of mine glows with an awesome power! It's burning grip tells me to defeat you..Here it is! My love! My anger! And all of my sorrow-- SHINING FINGER!!"

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>>1020682
Robot Sister in a Wheelchair!

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>> No.1020793

Damn it /jp/ if i was at home and not on some shitty vacation internet i'd show you what moe is!

>> No.1020803

>>1020784
>>1020783
>>1020779

Sauce please?

>> No.1020828

>>1020776
wow that dub is fucking terrible

>> No.1020877

The 3 origins of Moe which I've heard that make the most sense to me are that it was a term originally used to describe Studio Ghibli girls, that it originated from ToMOE Hotaru of Sailor Moon fame >>1020413 and that it originally came from moeru, to burn. The kanji used for moe means sprouting but that obviously isn't the meaning to the word.

Originally when I came across the word moe it was used to describe the reason adult men watched shows like Bottle Fairies and Kokoro Library.

Another meaning it took on for quite awhile was the desire to protect someone which is what Ken Akamatsu thinks moe means, in this case a show like Sister Princess is the ultimate moe. 12 younger sisters to watch over and protect without the capacity to romance them.

Now it's lost it's meaning and it's used to describe anything from a cute fetish to pedophilia to sexual desire for anime girls in general although it does have somewhat of a universal catchall to all things cute.

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>>1020707

But Shockwave Alberto = Master Asia!

Also, I'm surprised that so many Westerners haven't seen the brilliance that is Giant Robo OAV.

You've seen Gurren Lagann, but not GR OAV? Then shame on you.

>> No.1021178

>>1020782
What is that from?

I'm >>1020682

>> No.1021196

To me, moe has always just been the feeling of wanting to hug a cute girl instead of wanting to rape her.

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>>1021178
http://www.nitroplus.co.jp/pc/lineup/into_04/index.php

>> No.1021212

>>1020374
>What exactly is moe?
Ranka is moe incarnate. Sherylfags get out.

RANKA END CONFIRMED.

>> No.1021222

Guys. Moe is just basically a fetish or turn-on.

I HAVE A PONY-TAIL MOE.

>> No.1021233

Moe cannot be defined, only experienced.

Most people have no idea what true moe is. They throw the term around carelessly but have never felt the real thing. A lot like love, actually.

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>>1021222
Hello,Kyon

>> No.1021251

>>1020647
>your a faggot
>your

>> No.1021263

>>1020374
What is wrong with her eyes

>> No.1021269

>>1021263
H4X

>> No.1021297

>>1021269
Who the fuck says hax, h4x or shit like that nowadays other than underageb&?

>> No.1021306

>>1021297
A lot of people say it in those shitty power level threads
oh wait

>> No.1021309

>>1021233
Endearment, infatuation, affection. The English language has the most words of any language used to describe emotion. Don't think your silly Japanese words have no equivalent in English.

>> No.1021324

>>1021309

None of those define moe at all. Why don't you just say it's cute and call it a day?

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