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10171108 No.10171108 [Reply] [Original]

Why do any of you like Kaguya? She's horrible.

She torments poor Mokou by sending assassins after her. Partly because she's a sadist and partly because she's too lazy to fight Mokou herself.

And she's so self-absorbed. Even though she's an exile, she still expects to be treated like a princess. She just sits in her mansion all day, bossing rabbit youkai around and being of no use to anybody.

Not like Mokou. Mokou used to be an aristocrat too, but she knows that was a long time ago. She doesn't grasp to the pretense that she's still royalty. She has no problem with living in the woods like a hobo. And unlike the good for nothing Kaguya, Mokou spends her time rescuing people lost in the bamboo forest.

>> No.10171116

Moko pls go

>> No.10171124
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Even if Mokou can't die, she can still feel pain. Think about how awful it must be every time she's injured by one of Kaguya's assassins.

>> No.10171126

>>10171108
Mokou spent 300 years killing anything that came across her.

>> No.10171133

>>10171108
What are you talking about? There is a reason everybody says that Eientei is the worst faction.

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I sincerely and wholeheartedly agree with you in every point you made

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>> No.10171180
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>>10171141
Gee, I wonder how did she burn all these calories.

>> No.10171192

>>10171180
That joke is Surprise!!!

>> No.10171198

>>10171126
Didn't she just kill youkai? Which is a good thing for a human to do. Just ask Sanae.

>> No.10171199

Please do not misuse the spoiler function.

>> No.10171202

>>10171141

She's fucking hideous. Why do yurishit have the worst art?

>> No.10171260
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Thinking about Mokou and Keine makes me so sad.

Mokou won't even talk to the people she rescues in the bamboo forest. She must be afraid of getting close to anyone, because she wouldn't want to lose them like she's lost everyone else.

But even though she's tried to isolate herself, she'd still become very close to Keine. Losing Keine might be too much for her.

I'd really like to see a doujin about Mokou fighting Komachi and Yama for Keine's soul. Sort of like Orpheus traveling to the underworld to get his wife back. But instead of singing Mokou would be kicking ass.

>> No.10171264

>>10171260
That art looks very familiar.

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>>10171198
No, she went on rampage against everyone, in fact, during 3 hundred years she ate roasted unborn babies for break, grilled Youkai souls for lunch and the blood of virgin maidens mixed with Kaguya's tears for dinner until one day for not fucking reason she calmed down, built a hut in a forest an befriended a Hakutaku and she was all like "Life's good, lets taste it slowly."

That's why I love her and I always will.

>>10171202

Not yurishit, though I agree she's a little too slim but Keine's body compensates that in the same doujinshi.

>> No.10171289

>>10171276
Not nearly thin enough, there's an entire undercage that can't be seen.

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Kaguya will never have a BFF like Mokou does. Not as long as she treats those closest to her like servants.

Why does Eirin put up with Kaguya's bullshit anyway?

>> No.10171342

What pisses me more about this is that japanese secondaries are so enamored with their seme Mokou shit that they consistently draw Mokou as higher than Keine. There's no fucking way! Mokou was frozen in immortality as a japanese teen from 1000 years ago. By all reasons, she should be smaller than Keine, and probably a bit smaller than even Kaguya.

Regarding OP, Mokou had it coming. She was the one that initiated the aggression to Kaguya. That Kaguya to this day indulges on teasing Mokou instead of simply ignoring her is actually sweet.

>> No.10171347

>>10171342
higher = taller. I shouldn't post drunk.

>> No.10171353
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10171353

reminds me of another self-important but ultimately inconsequential and worthless st6 boss

>> No.10171355

>>10171347
Please don't do drugs.

>> No.10171356

Mokou is the daughter of a concubine and she expects her clan to be glorified with marriage to a princess.

She actually thinks her father cared, when in reality he probably had a whole truckful of sons and daughters.

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I like fanon Kaguya who is a sleepy neet that plays video games!

>> No.10171375

>>10171360
die easy!

>> No.10171377

>>10171309

Getting the vibes of David Carradine waving a flute over a campfire there.

What exactly do these immensively powerful people think about? What drives them and motivates them? Why do they do the things they do? What makes them tick?
There's bound to be a better answer than "who knows".

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>>10171360
But it's canon, just read Inaba. And Reisen canonically wears bloomers too.

>> No.10171385

>>10171379
inaba isnt canon

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>>10171385

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>>10171342
>Regarding OP, Mokou had it coming. She was the one that initiated the aggression to Kaguya

No, Kaguya initiated it by humiliating Mokou's father. Honor means a lot to Japanese people. It especially meant a lot to Japanese Heian-era aristocrats.

Mokou would have been expected to seek vengeance against Kaguya for her awful prank.

>> No.10171393

>>10171388
what are you trying to say? that you were being ironic?

>> No.10171404

>>10171116
This isn't written by Mokou. Mokou is too stupid to know how to use a computer. She hardly even knows kanji. Not only that, she's not articulate enough to expose her arguments like OP is exposing. That's why I say:

Keine pls go

>> No.10171408

>>10171404
>.Mokou is too stupid to know how to use a computer.
How rude.

>> No.10171407

>>10171392
Oh fuck this noise. You know who else Kaguya humiliates on the same story? The fucking Emperor of Japan. Who Mokou thinks her daddy is? Suzanoo?

She got better now, but Mokou was originally a pretty fucked-up human being.

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>>10171342
>That Kaguya to this day indulges on teasing Mokou instead of simply ignoring her is actually sweet.

Sending assassins to kill someone is not teasing and it isn't sweet. It's cruel. Those assassins might cause Mokou great bodily harm and a great deal of pain.

>> No.10171414

>>10171408
>>10171410
Keine stop defending Mokou. You're only showing us that girls can only fall for stupid troglodytes. We already know you're a hypocritical slut though. You might get a better reaction from /r9k/

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>>10171407
As a Fujiwara Mokou was probably related to the Emperor. Avenging him might have been another one of her motivations.

At any rate I think it's nice that she was so fiercely devoted to her dad.

>> No.10171422

>>10171407
The Emperor of Japan and his children have to worry about things like dignity and appearances, though.

>> No.10171423
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>>10171414
Bitch you'd better stop making fun of the two best Touhou girls, or I'll tell Meido!

>> No.10171425

>>10171423
Why are you referring to yourself in the third person, Keine?

>> No.10171428

>>10171410
Nothing that Kaguya herself hadn't experienced on the past. Lets remember that the Lunarians original reaction to Kaguya's crime was *executing* her. They resorted to banishment when it dawned on them that killing was kind of weaksauce for immortals.

Finally, read CiLR. Mokou freaks out when she thinks the lunar veil ascending (actually Reisen 2 returning home) meant Kaguya was returning to the Moon. Mokou needs Kaguya and both are fated to become best friends, even if it's because in about one million of years they'll still be around and everybody else in the setting won't.

>> No.10171434

>>10171410
Kaguya knows better than anyone else assassination is useless. She does it to tease Mokou.

>> No.10171436

>>10171423
I don't see Remilia or Reimu on your picture, so I know it's unrelated to your post.

>> No.10171442

>>10171428
>Mokou needs Kaguya and both are fated to become best friends

No. Mokou is going to keep Keine around by fighting Komachi and Yama whenever she dies. Just like in the doujin I want to read that no one's actually made yet.

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hahaha, what the fuck is moko to the beauty of kaguya? kaguya a love princess, deep elgendary beauty unmatch by all. she the helen of troy, the aphrodite of greece, the maiden of the moon. moko, she the whore of babylon, the catamite of egypt, the stink, the smell, the disgust of the DOG. DOG moko is,s he mangy mutt need to be but down and put to the dog bpund so she be sleeped. moko, dont make me laugh, wha a pig, wha a bafoon. kaguya, oh my kaguya, she is the beauty, the grace, the intellect, she the lunarian goddess, th earth goddess, she bring a nation togethe,r MOKON ONLY DESTRY, a slut unfit, not even the lowest male fuck her, her vagina rotting away, but kaguya, she a oure perfect wife, she an ideal of all, kaguya foreve rbe the best touhou, moko forever be the worst

>> No.10171447

>>10171442
That's a very nice concept. I'll make it in mspaint then post it as a gift for you later.

>> No.10171452
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>>10171434
It's cruel. Even if Mokou can't be killed she can still be injured. Those assassination attempts might leave her in a great deal of pain.

>> No.10171459

Bullying is wrong.

>> No.10171455

>>10171442
Whadaya gonna call it?

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>>10171442
you're adorable.


Mokou is probably a textbook example of perversion of the Rule of Cool. There's a totally unreasonable amount of pictures of Mokou doing awesome things around, and people immediately assume that somebody that awesome must automatically be right.

Picture related. She's awesome AND she's a mostly wrong person. Both things aren't in conflict.

>> No.10171471

>>10171446
I don't know who this was. My best guess is mokou is trying to prove the other anon wrong and is trying to use the computer and the miracle of anonymous posting to let out his masochistic side.

>> No.10171476

>>10171447
>That's a very nice concept.

Isn't it though?

Like I said earlier, Mokou's going to be like Orpheus, but kicking ass instead of singing.

She'll be greatly outmatched of course, and Yama and Komachi will be wiping the floor with her. But Mokou won't relent. Through sheer willpower she will force the god of death and the god of judgement to return Keine's soul.

>> No.10171480

>>10171470
Fuck you Mokou. I like bears.

>> No.10171486

>>10171446
/r/ing the other copypasta, about how much better Mokou is than Kaguya

>> No.10171484

>>10171476
Don't say anything because then my approach won't look original!!

>> No.10171491

>>10171480
It's probably a human eating bear youkai. Mokou beats the shit out of youkai in the bamboo forest to protect humans. Humans just like you.

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>>10171491
>Mokou beats the shit out of youkai in the bamboo forest to protect humans.

She knows how to deal out the JUSTICE.

>> No.10171499

>>10171452
Again, go read CiLR. Mokou inflicts pain on herself because why not? (albeit in a manlier way than "cutting"). She doesn't eat, and sleeps on the outside in a freezing night, because she knows she can't starve or freeze to death.

She's probably so used to constant pain and disconfort that only assassination attempts can actually rile her up.

>> No.10171500

>>10171491
We both know you were just releasing all your pent up furstration on that innocent, normal bear.

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>>10171260
It's been done, to some degree, but not much fighting. 「悲願帰航」

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Mokou is the heroine that /jp/ deserves.

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>>10171503
It needs fighting. It doesn't count if there's not fighting.

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>>10171522
If we were lost in Gensokyo, being stalked by hungry youkai, what other Touhou would go out of their way to rescue us?

Reimu probably, but of course she'd be all bitchy about it.

Mokou is a saint!

>> No.10171542

She's still royalty. It's all the in the blood. She just needs a prince to sweep her off her feet.

>> No.10171551

>>10171542
No, she's not royalty. She was exiled. She's lost her title.

No prince would ever marry her.

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this picture is sweet in a weird way

>> No.10171585

>>10171551

Royalty is a birthright. It's not something that can be stripped away.

>> No.10171591

>>10171542
I know this is hard for americans to understand, but get this: Nobility != Royalty. Mokou, Futo, Tojiko and Yuyuko were nobility. Mokou, Futo and Tojiko were even "high nobility".

Miko is royalty. Kaguya is also a noble, but from a totally fictional empire so we have no means to figure if was actually a royal there.

>> No.10171628

>>10171108
>rabbits
>youkai

>>10171198
>mokou
>human

>> No.10171631

>>10171585
>It's not something that can be stripped away.

It can be if you're exiled.

>>10171591
Mokou may have been blood related to the Emperor. Wouldn't that make her royalty? Or just "high nobility."

>> No.10171636

>>10171503
Is there an english version of that?

>> No.10171641

>>10171628
Are you implying that rabbits can't be youkai, and that Mokou isn't human?

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>>10171486
kaguya, what a shit, what a shit! stupid bitch ned 2 go back 2 the moon, she go pond rice cake for mokou w/i the bunies, kaguya but a slave for the great mokou! my heart burn for mokou, the passion, fury it eminate warm the earth, i cannot bear it, my heart like to explode. kaguya, my heart only feel hate, it cold, deep, frozen in the icebox only mokou cna bring it out and warm with her radiance! kaguya, a lazy slut, she canot do anything without the entei, but mokou, there is no task she canto complte, not even hurcules can best her labors, her power her skill her beauty pearless, kaguya kiss her feet, an obscene girl, she can only looka t up the wonder that is mokou

>> No.10171683

>>10171641
I'm implying that the rabbits aren't youkai, and that Mokou isn't human, just as Kaguya isn't lunarian.

I could be wrong about the rabbits though, and I mean lunarian as in genetics, not lunarian as in place of birth.

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>>10171631
High nobility.

There's some theories around that Mokou wasn't even a legitimate daugher, based mostly on the CiLR that show her "alive" in rather peasant clothing and most damning, a short hair that would be completely absurd to a noble. Particularly I think this is bullshit, being simply a case of "ZUN likes short hair, deal with it", but I confess that having Mokou desperate to prove herself to daddy would help to explain her idiotic actions back then.

Picture related. It even has the correct relative heights.

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>>10171446
10/10 would read again.

>> No.10171758

>>10171683
>I could be wrong about the rabbits though,

You are. The Eientei bunnies are youkai rabbits. Like Wriggle is a youkai lightbug. And Chen and Rin are youkai cats.

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>>10171691
I'd prefer to think that Mokou was a real daddy's girl, and a complete hot head, rather than a bastard desperately trying to prove herself.

>> No.10171791

>>10171676
thanks

>> No.10171802

>>10171758
>>10171683
Yeah, they pound mochi with Tewi. Normal rabbits can't do that.

>> No.10171981

>>10171631
>It can be if you're exiled.

Wrong. If you're born into royalty you will always be royalty. Nothing can change this. Doesn't matter if you're exiled, deposed, disinherited, or whatever.

>> No.10172422

>>10171981

I think the person you're speaking to is coming from a perspective of the legitimacy of royalty. What does it mean to be "royal"? To come from a particular bloodline? Alright, then what makes that bloodline "royal"? Inevitably, the answer is "because they say so, and they have enough wealth, prestige, and goons that'll beat the shit out of you to back it up." Therefore, if all one can offer is "because they say so," that isn't really good enough

I mean, I could claim myself a royal, but I don't think you're going to accept that, right? And it is meaningless to consider yourself royal if nobody else does. It's something like that

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Since nobody on earth outside of eientei knew about Kaguya before IN except for Mokou, all the "assassins" were probably just residents of eientei battling Mokou for Kaguya's amusement. Mokou acted annoyed in the extra stage at first, but she also seemed to be happy that she was getting to fight tougher opponents. In CiLR she gets lonely thinking about Kaguya possibly leaving for the moon, so it is doubtful that she hates Kaguya as much as she pretends to. Also events from Inaba of the Moon and Inaba of the Earth have been discussed and referenced in a few other official works now, so we can no longer ignore it as a resource.

>> No.10176031

Kaguya is a bad person

>> No.10176049

>>10176031
you're mom is a bad person

>> No.10176050

Fuck Kaguya, Eirin for Eientei's princess.

>> No.10176063

What does Mokou's semen taste like?

>> No.10176078

>>10176063
Ash.

>> No.10176105

>>10176063
ask ur mom

>> No.10176297

>>10176063
Don't be lewd like that.

>> No.10176322

>>10176063
also curious as to what the answer to this question is

>> No.10176433 [DELETED] 

This topic would be better off as a post in a more generalized Touhou discussion thread. Please be considerate of your fellow posters by not creating redundant topics.

>> No.10176445 [DELETED] 

>>10176433
stfu nerd

>> No.10176767

>>10176063
Tomato!

>> No.10177026

Mokou is just as childish as Kaguya.

If you read CoLA you'd notice Kaguya also wants to help others and not be an useless hermit-like person.

>> No.10177071

>>10171108
>because she's too lazy to fight Mokou herself.
False. Mokou's official profile:
>Now, Mokou and Kaguya kill each other on a daily basis.

>And she's so self-absorbed. Even though she's an exile, she still expects to be treated like a princess. She just sits in her mansion all day, bossing rabbit youkai around and being of no use to anybody.
Exaggeration. But even if it wasn't, are you implying that any of it has any influence on whether she's a worthwhile existence or not?

>Mokou used to be an aristocrat too, but she knows that was a long time ago. She doesn't grasp to the pretense that she's still royalty.
Are you implying that there is something wrong with having pride?

Kaguya's great. On the contrary, she doesn't have so many of the pretenses that you humans have. Things like, for example, the pretense that you exist to have some beneficial role in others' lives, when nobody really believes that and everyone is actually just doing things because they expect things in return.

But, only a human would have such pretenses in the first place. So Mokou also doesn't have them. Both Mokou and Kaguya are great, wonderful people. I'm sure they both have lots of fun brutally killing each other every day, pissing each other off, etc. I wish I could live a life like that.

>> No.10177069

>>10171108
Moko is a thief, murderer. He stole F-ing immortality. Only morally pro side with him is that Kaguya kinda got his perverted lolicon father killed because of arranged marriage.

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>>10177071
TeruMoko is a miracle of the universe.

It's also hilarious.

>> No.10177149

>>10177121
I know you're trying to piss me off with your lies, but I'm not even mad.

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>>10177149
Well, any TeruMoko stories tend to end in explosions or other hilarious mishaps.
I remember one story where Kaguya, who is cussing up a storm at Mokou, falls off of the roof and into one of Tewi's pitfalls. And it ends with a shocked Tewi stating, "The Princess fell from the sky?!"

But, eh, everyone has their opinions.

>> No.10177185

>>10172887
Where has Inaba been referenced?

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from this chapter we can conclude that inaba isnt canon

>> No.10177258

>>10177203
Why is that? Is it because they break the fourth wall?
Because they do that in the games, too.

>> No.10177264

>>10177258
because eirin gets sick

>> No.10177269

>>10177264
Do we know that she drank the full Hourai Elixir?

>> No.10177278

>>10177269
Yuyuko poisoned her in the ghost team good ending in an attempt to kill her.

I'm not sure if just taking two sips of it will cause one to become immortal to poisons it just says that they cannot become ill.

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>>10177278
Fascinating.

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>>10177278
It's possible to become "ill" from stress.
Eirin had been working hard, but she didn't actually catch any sort of pathogen.

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i guess mushrooms dont count as drugs or poison

>> No.10177438

>>10172887
>events from Inaba of the Moon and Inaba of the Earth have been discussed and referenced in a few other official works now, so we can no longer ignore it as a resource.

I bet my house you can't point us even one of those.

>> No.10178069

>>10177438
Hisoutensoku and OSP.

>> No.10179343

>>10178069
>Ran takes her clothes off screaming CHEEEN in Ten Desires

Ok.

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Posting because relevant and hasn't been shared enough yet

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