/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>10064703
11 And among us there are righteous folk and among us there are far from that. We are sects having different rules.

12 And we know that we cannot escape from Allah in the earth, nor can we escape by flight.

13 And when we heard the guidance, we believed therein, and whoso believeth in his Lord, he feareth neither loss nor oppression.

14 And there are among us some who have surrendered (to Allah) and there are among us some who are unjust. And whoso hath surrendered to Allah, such have taken the right path purposefully.

15 And as for those who are unjust, they are firewood for hell.

16 If they (the idolaters) tread the right path, We shall give them to drink of water in abundance

17 That We may test them thereby, and whoso turneth away from the remembrance of his Lord; He will thrust him into ever-growing torment.

18 And the places of worship are only for Allah, so pray not unto anyone along with Allah.

19 And when the slave of Allah stood up in prayer to Him, they crowded on him, almost stifling.

20 Say (unto them, O Muhammad): I pray unto Allah only, and ascribe unto Him no partner.

1 Say (O Muhammad): It is revealed unto me that a company of the Jinn gave ear, and they said: Lo! we have heard a marvellous Qur'an,

2 Which guideth unto righteousness, so we believe in it and we ascribe no partner unto our Lord.

3 And (we believe) that He - exalted be the glory of our Lord! - hath taken neither wife nor son,

4 And that the foolish one among us used to speak concerning Allah an atrocious lie.

5 And lo! we had supposed that humankind and jinn would not speak a lie concerning Allah -

6 And indeed (O Muhammad) individuals of humankind used to invoke the protection of individuals of the jinn, so that they increased them in revolt against Allah);

7 And indeed they supposed, even as ye suppose, that Allah would not raise anyone (from the dead) -

8 And (the Jinn who had listened to the Qur'an said): We had sought the heaven but had found it filled with strong warders and meteors.

9 And we used to sit on places (high) therein to listen. But he who listeneth now findeth a flame in wait for him;

10 And we know not whether harm is boded unto all who are in the earth, or whether their Lord intendeth guidance for them.

>>10064706
21 Say: Lo! I control not hurt nor benefit for you.

22 Say: Lo! none can protect me from Allah, nor can I find any refuge beside Him

23 (Mine is) but conveyance (of the Truth) from Allah, and His messages; and whoso disobeyeth Allah and His messenger, lo! his is fire of hell, wherein such dwell for ever.

24 Till (the day) when they shall behold that which they are promised (they may doubt); but then they will know (for certain) who is weaker in allies and less in multitude.

25 Say (O Muhammad, unto the disbelievers): I know not whether that which ye are promised is nigh, or if my Lord hath set a distant term for it.

26 (He is) the Knower of the Unseen, and He revealeth unto none His secret,

27 Save unto every messenger whom He hath chosen, and then He maketh a guard to go before him and a guard behind him

28 That He may know that they have indeed conveyed the messages of their Lord. He surroundeth all their doings, and He keepeth count of all things.

Do you have a Japanese job, or are you employed as a translator? If not, don't waste your money.

>>10064768
I'm buying a new keyboard either way for Christmas. The one I've got is a piece of shit.

>>10064786
If it doesn't make a difference to you for which one you type English in, and the Japanese keyboard will help you type in Japanese, and you're getting one keyboard or the other, I don't see why you bothered to ask which one you should get.

But using IME is so much easier and faster.

>>10064796
Just wanted to see if anyone else had done it, and what their experience was, and if they had suggestions on which keyboard to buy.

It would be nice to have a Japanese keyboard so I could switch between input modes by just pressing a key. But I'm not getting one for that.

>>10064840
Yeah, I'm getting tired of pressing alt+shit and alt+caps

Japanese people don't input kana directly. It's there on the keyboard, but nobody types that way. It's like Dvorak, but I've never heard of people calling it superior or anything.

Everybody uses the regular IME way where you type shit raito dexisu to get ライトディス and use the extra keys to switch between 半角/全角 and roman letters.

>>10064859
Can you provide a source on that?

>>10064829
I used a Japanese keyboard for some time while on study abroad. It's really not good for typing English in general, partially due to the small space bar but especially due to the odd placement of the punctuation. As I recall it didn't have a dedicated slash key.

Also this >>10064859.

>>10064875
Me. I'm Japanese, and nobody ever types kana in directly. The default setting in windows is IME.

かな入力のメリット

これは日本語を打つ際には当然ローマ字入力に比べて速いです。
練習すれば、１．５～２倍以上のスピードでタイピングできると思います。



かな入力のデメリット

覚える文字が多いです。ローマ字入力に比べて、普段使う４６文字全部どこ
にあるのか覚えないといけないので、タイピングが格段に難しくなります
。
また、ローマ字とまたっく配置が違うので、英語を入力する際には、初心者
なみのスピードで打つことになると思います。
ローマ字入力のメリット

A～Zまでで覚える数が少ない上に、実際にQXVCLJなんかは個人的にあまり使用
しないことが多いので、初心者で始めても、すぐにタイピングに慣れるこ
とができます。
また英語を入力する際も、ある程度速く打つことができるようになります。

ローマ字入力のデメリット

日本語入力がかな入力に比べて遅いこと。
のみです。

>>10064887
Why is that? It seems like that would be more trouble. Typing, for example, た would take two keystrokes (t, a) in IME, compared to one if you input directly.

>>10064895
I don't know, I'm just telling you the current situation.

But according to >>10064889
1. You're going to be slow as hell typing English.
2. 46 keys to learn vs 26. (I'm also assuming it's a bitch to reach for the number row keys all the time)

>>10064895
http://q.hatena.ne.jp/1142604517

some notable points for an english speaker:
kana input is considered "lame"
alt shortcuts don't work in kana input
more typing involved with IME


These are the main ones. There aren't many advantages to buying a Japanese keyboard unless you seriously intend to write massive amounts of Japanese with comparatively little English.

>>10064889
>>10064908
All right, thanks.

simply IME. I don't really see the advantage of a kana KB.
>>10064786
get a mechanical. Things feel great to type on.

I use kana input because my system for some reason defaulted to it when I enabled the Japanese keyboard, and it's just what I've gotten used to using. I certainly don't think you need to buy such a keyboard to learn the layout, it only took me a few days to learn it.

>>10064976
>get a mechanical. Things feel great to type on.

That's the other thing I was considering. Might go with browns.

>>10064976
PS
there is also the issue of learning a entirely different layout.
>>10064984
Brown's are the middle class between vidya and typing.
I personally use a full MX blue for day-to-day use and a compact MX red for gaming.

>>10064991
>Brown's are the middle class between vidya and typing.

That's why I was thinking of going with them. I do a bit of both (games and typing) and don't have the money for more than one keyboard at those prices.

ya i got one, but direct input sucks. hell, not even most japanese use it.

the extra keys come in handy for gaymen.

also note that you will have to config the keyboard's driver in device manager or else it will think its a western. point it to the jp kbrd driver.

then setup two langs in the control panel, english with jp keyboard, and jp with jp keyboard.

A Japanese laptop keyboard runs at less than 10 dollars, I might get one next time I order parts.

But yeah, they're pretty useless.

>>10065068
But it will increase waboo cred +10

>>10065068
looks interesting.

Enjoy having to deal with the tilde key while playing games. pressing the convert key while in game will render your keyboard useless, then you will need to alt tab out mash the keys to get it back to normal. Its different for every game.

>>10065170
well thats why you want to keep it set to en input on jp keyboard and only switch it to jp input on jp keyboard when typing in jp

>>10064994
Note that MX browns or blues (basically anything with a tactile click) for playing STGs is the equivalent of shooting yourself in the hand. If you don't care for or play STGs seriously, then you can ignore that.

>>10065198
I use an arcade stick for STGs

>>10065198
personally this controller has the best Dpad.
http://www.jlist.com/product/JCU2208TRD

>>10065177
>launch game, oh noes i forgot to set it to eng keyboard mode
No thank you

could just buy some sticker paper for $2, then print and stick the letters on an old keyboard before deciding whether or not you want the actual hardware. i did this when i learned the dvorak layout.

>>10065347
you can buy it premade

http://amzn.com/B000NJS3MU

>>10065362
i picked some sticker paper up from walmart for cheap a long time ago, and there's hardly any applications for the stuff because the print quality looks so cheap, so i pretty much bought a lifetime supply in a single stack. might be a better option than paying $6.14 minimum for something with higher quality but single use with only one application.

Will amazon.co.jp ship keyboards to America? I read their help page but it wasn't very clear.

>>10065452
As far as I'm aware it's media only. I don't think so.

Yes, I started typing Kana input for at least a year ago.

I use an American ANSI layout Filco and it works pretty well. You use simple hotkeys to substitute the additional keys the Japanese layout posseses. And with regards to the kana placement, there is only a tiny incosistency of two keys ろむ. Although I do wish I had bought a Japanese layout Filco as I always need to manually fix the layout in Anthy under gnulinux since the symbols on the number row are shifted one step to the right on ANSI.

However, if you `should' learn Kana 入力 is something you should think about. You will probably be able to type faster, but in my experience, in the majority of cases with a dakuten or handakuten the romaji layout is faster.

But you do become godly with the number keys by practicing Kana.

Also, typing out anything that could possibly sound Japanese is very hard since my fingers automatically go to the Kana keys.