/jp/ - Otaku Culture

neet blogshit need to go.

Whatever passes my mind at any given moment. Related to Japan or not, I do not care.

NEET threads. I kinda feel that they belong more on /soc/ then on /jp/

Isn't the point of "Otaku culture" being an umbrella term that it's supposed to catch any of the fallout that isn't related to anime & manga?

So yes, dolls, kig, fumo, idols, MMD, vocaloid in general, etc, are all directly linkable with otaku in Japan and therefore make sense of this board. Light novels too, but given that they are adapted into anime like hotcakes nowadays they moved more towards /a/.

I just want the fumo hate and MMO foolishness to end.

>>10060687
no, newfriend-kun

this board used to be called japan/general

lurk more

>>10060693
I was here during Japan/General, moot even said the reason he changed the name was because "Japan/General" was way too broad.

>>10060693
I always thought /jp/ was intended for the discussion of Japanese culture/JP pop cluture or something.

In my opinion, any thread I personally like, that's not filled with shitposting, has the right to stay. The janitor's tastes seem to match mine in most cases so I don't really have anything to complain about.

Everything but meta threads should be allowed. Meta threads belong in /q/.

There are plenty of /jp/ related threads, usually in form of generals which always slowly get posted to bumb limit before 404ing. Not due to shitposting mind you, but actual fucking discussion.
-Untranslated VNs
-Untranslated LNs
-Figures
-Dolls
-Kigs
-Touhou gameplay / story / character discussion threads (and perhaps even imagedumps)
-Obscure doujin games
-Vocaloid and MMD
-Nicovideo threads
-Otaku music (denpa, lolicore etc.)
-Comiket filedump threads
-Other niche Japanese pastimes and hobbies

Excerpt from >>>/q/281160

Anything related to otaku culture stays.
Anything not related to otaku culture goes.

>>10060706
If you want to discuss the different places you can visit in Japan, I suggest you go to /trv/ (though they also seem to hate Japan there, so don't annoy them too much). If you want to discuss the Japanese language, go to /lang/ (yes, 4chan has text boards!). If you want to discuss anime and manga, go to /a/ (some series that are based on light novels/VNs/games like Marimite and Higurashi can also be discussed in /jp/, it really depends, so lurk a bit to see what's acceptable). Finally, if you want to talk about Japanese history and culture, go somewhere else, nobody here knows or cares for that stuff.

/jp/ was created as a board to get rid of Touhou and visual novels from /a/, it was never intended to be a board about Japanese culture. Most of the users here don't care about Japan, we only care about lolis and doujin games.

>besides Touhou and VNs

Light Novels should belong here too, but nobody reads them.

What shouldn't belong here are those things that already have their boards and aren't specific of otaku culture nor niche japanese only products.

This includes regular shmups, anime, minecraft, jrpg generals, and so on.
But because of /jp/ isolationistic nature people either discuss that stuff here or don't, because they don't want to touch /a/ or /v/.

Of course stuff about japan general does not belong here. Japanese threads are only acceptable if they are about advanced questions, not basic grammar stuff.

Kigs, dolfie, dakimakura, onahole and other otaku paraphernarlia belong here.
Action figures belong to /fig/, but see above.

NEET and Hikki lifestyle are specific for this board and belong here. Saying that they should go to /soc/ is retarded.

patrol neet generals and delete /r9k/ shit

>>10060713
yeah it's about my second day here so I,m still looking at what's acceptable and unacceptable.

We get all the topics that other boards reject fro being too weeaboo.

eg. jp food from /ck/, jpop & music from /mu/, doujin games and jp mmos from /v/g/, truNEET from /r9k/, touhous from /a/, etcetc

>>10060715
>NEET and Hikki lifestyle are specific for this board and belong here.

http://archive.heinessen.com/r9k/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=neet&search_subject=&a
mp;search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto
=&search_op=op&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_res
=post

mmorpg general doesn't belong here

occasional discussion of /jp/ related MMO is fine, a general isn't

this board was made to keep weeaboo autists from shitting on other boards.

>>10060721
>jp food from /ck/
>music from /mu/
Stop this shit.

>>10060709
>-Comiket filedump threads
Oh fuck I forgot about the near shitstorm last time. With those /q/ spammers/whiners afoot lately, the next comiket is going to be full of them trying to get the threads banned from /jp/ isn't it?

>>10060721
NEETs who post on /r9k/ and those who post on /jp/ are two different types of NEET. Please don't misuse that label.

>>10060728
I don't make or post in those particular topics but I accept them. They have been going on since the board was created.

I wish everyone just take it easy and stop worrying about what belongs. If you worried about what belongs you don't belong.

>>10060713
>Most of the users here don't care about Japan, we only care about lolis and doujin games.
Well then, get the fuck out, nonweeaboo.

Anything made in Japan or somehow connected to Japan, also fart threads.

>>10060729
People were complaining because not only were people requesting in the upload threads, but people were also posting in the threads just how people post in /a/b/v/, with greentext, reaction images, spoiler misuse, ect.

Nobody wants that stuff.

>>10060730
I'm not confusing them. I'm saying we get those different types of NEETs who /r9k/ would reject.

Just accept it. We are a board designed to rid other boards of weeaboo shit.

>>10060736
Besides the separation of threads, there were people trying to get the posting of doujinshi stopped because /jp/ isn't /h/ or some shit.

I want more fumo threads (minus any roleplaying you're complaining about)

>>10060723
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to demonstrate with that. You can talk about anything in /r9k/ that doesn't take anything away from the boards that are specific for those topics.

It's like saying that anime aren't specific of /a/ because we talk about anime here. or that mecha isn't specific of /m/ because it's occasionally being discussed in /a/ too.

>>10060732
>They have been going on since the board was created.
No they haven't. Stop trying to revise this board's history as a weeaboo paradise.

>>10060739
Why would /r9k/ or anywhere reject NEETs if they're not whining?

Metathreads.
Just metathreads.
Rember the time before /q/?
There is nothing /jp/ likes more than talking about /jp/

>>10060743
All roleplaying complaints are from people who clearly have no idea what roleplaying looks like.

The Touhou shit needs to stop.

>>10060745
Go look in archive. There have always been complaints about the topics but the replies outweigh the complaints most of the time.

>>10060746
Most other boards reject anything "weeaboo" in general. That's why this board exists. Keep us autists out of other boards.

>>10060750
Stop roleplaying.

>>10060730
http://archive.heinessen.com/r9k/thread/S4361832

http://archive.heinessen.com/r9k/thread/S4168294

http://archive.heinessen.com/r9k/thread/S3639955

http://archive.heinessen.com/r9k/thread/S3586606

http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/161858495/

>>10060750
Any little hint of roleplaying is bad and you should feel bad for pretending to be anyone but yourself on /jp/.

And if yourself is a annoying shitposter you should get out

>>10060753
>us

>>10060757
somebody who frequently comes here told me that there isn't really any other board that can take Touhou.
Kinda like Tokusetsai and /m/

>>10060761
Yeah, maybe I should have changed 'us' to 'you'.

>>10060728
I don't think denpa threads would work in /mu/, nor do I believe very many people who browse /mu/ listen to denpa.

>>10060757
You are a dumb retard if you think Touhou don't belong in /jp/, but given how shitty the fanbase is, I forgive you for saying that

>>10060753
Please lurk more.

Everything that isn't disliked by many people should be allowed. This could be for a variety of reasons, but it'd better be a fucking better reason to dislike it than "not explicitly in one of the enumerated on-topic categories." This is in ADDITION to all the explicitly on-topic subjects, such as idols and Touhou, which many people dislike, but get to stay for obvious reasons.

This is the best criterion. It's perfect. Everybody should abide by it. Once it was so, one day it shall be.

>>10060753
I think you and I have different understandings of what 'truNEET' is.

>>10060753
>Most other boards reject anything "weeaboo"
what about /a/?

>>10060753
why are crossboarders so easy to spot?

/jp/ is the only topic that is allowed on /jp/.

>>10060780
pretty much

>>10060773
>>10060773
>>10060773
>>10060773
>>10060773
Pay attention to my literally perfect set of rules, you whores.

>>10060786
No you suck lol.
/jp/ is for le shitposting and le metathreads.
Go and talk about all your weaboo crap on /a/

I think some people actually think that way

>>10060771
>>10060774
>>10060778
Too blind to see what is in front of you. Won't even accept the rules or moot's responses to the topic. Think they run the board.

Keep living in your delusions, /jp/.

>>10060792
Care to explain what you meant by 'truNEET' in >>10060721, please?

Are OC threads okay, even though they're not Japanese but instead stuff made by westerners?

>>10060792
>moot's responses to the topic

this doesn't means shit because moot hates /jp/

>>10060792
Or you could just accept that the fact that you came here yesterday disqualifies you from taking part in this discussion

>>10060792
>moot's responses to the topic

http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/4429307/

>/jp/ is "otaku culture", not "japanese culture". did you miss the memo?
- moot, February 15th, 2012

>>10060796
truNEETs are bedroom autists who live from the government in Japanese style. They are also a joke term on this board.

>>10060798
lol'd

>>10060799
That post shows moot wanting the shit that is too weeaboo for other boards to be put on this board.

>>10060806
>truNEETs are bedroom autists who live from the government in Japanese style. They are also a joke term on this board.

How did you get this idea? It's wrong.

>>10060810
>>10060816
He is trolling, stop replying.

>>10060806
How many people are aware that NEET is not a Japanese word or invention?

>>10060806
It may have started out as a joke but some people take this term very serious, just like "waifu"

>>10060820
Don't tell me what to do. You can suck the shit out of my ass.

>>10060822
Those people are bedroom autists.

>>10060820
It's not trolling. It's reason. I am a voice of truth.

>>10060810
What do you think is a truNEET then?

Guys I think we just got epic troleld

>>10060830
It's just someone who chooses to be NEET because they enjoy the lifestyle. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>10060830
If you spent any time on this board you'd realize it was a shit term coined by cross board normals.

>>10060806
>truNEETs are bedroom autists who live from the government in Japanese style
>Japanese style
What the fucking fuck?
Yes you are right about the joke part. Everything else is wrong though. You see, "NEET" blogshit was never accepted by the majority of people here.
In those old days, those faggots that misuse the term "NEET" were always told to fuck off by "/jp/ is not your blog" and etc. Alas as you know, /jp/ being /jp/ is famous for being witty and ironic as fuck and started making "truNEET only, get the fuck out unless unless you are shitting on the floor or pissing on the floor in response to blogshit. Somehow the NEET posers in the process of trying to fit actually took this seriously and started collecting piss bottles.
Like flan always say, any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.
And thus we have neo /jp/ 2012 edition now.

>>10060816
Well, it has become incorrect to call them hikki. We are also talking about truNEET not NEET. NEET goes on /r9k/ since it is not weeaboo. That's the whole point I'm saying.

Just shut up. The "truNEET" thing is a sarcastic insult.

why is this time of the year so shitty

>>10060841
I think you are losing focus. My point is that it belongs on this board, not /r9k/.

Also the reason that NEET threads has devolved into what it is today is because they are allowed on the board. Back in the day they were deleted whenever janitor showed up. If you want them to go back to how they were they must be deleted on sight.

I would bet you are one of the people who argued so much in favor of them being allowed, though. It's not your fault you didn't realize waht would happen.

>>10060852
janitor/mod left. Although I think /jp/ got a new one.

>>10060843
Don't tell me what to do. You can suck the turd again.

Also I think that nu-janitor made this thread.

>>10060859
I guess you can blame me since I am one of those enabler for shitting on the floor back then.
But please, dont group me with those fucking /q/ueers when they wrote NEET blogshit into /jp/ rules. Why they think blogshit should be allowed in /jp/, that I would never know. If only I found about /q/ earlier, all these shit wouldnt happen.

>>10060866
We got a new janitor?

>>10060870
Moot said he'll put up a new announcement after he adds the new janitors.

>>10060858
Keep talking about it then, for all the good it'll do.

>>10060859
Whenever there's a thing on 4chan, it eventually becomes a serious parody of itself as people who aren't quite in the original loop start spreading it. Or rather, theis misconception of it.

Every fucking time

>>10060882
I hope he is nicer

>>10060883
Don't tell me what to do.

>>10060882
why don't you add THIS!

*whips out cock*

>>10060858
suck on THIS!

*whips out cock*

>>10060859
argue in favor of THIS!

*whips out cock*

>>10060896
You took your time, cock-whipper kun

>>10060896
Pls

>>10060675
Metathreads are a big no-no. Use >>>/q/ for them.

Translated VNs are as /jp/ as untranslated.

>>10060930
Tru tru

>>10060675
This picture is making me unable to take it easy...;_;

What is the purpose of these things? Halloween prop?

O-or are they real?

>>10060945
Disguised Sigma Viruses.

>>10060945
Please don't misuse spoilers.

anything Japan related: cars, girls, languages, foods, cloths, and music

and Tea, always 茶

Anything should be allowed. Only illegal content should be deleted. This way the community gets to determine organically what is and isn't accepted through interest rather than through moderation. Of course, people will shitpost, but if you don't like that just ignore it. Stick to the threads you do like.
To use the comparison I made in /q/ not too long ago, think alt.* newsgroups. alt.* newsgroups are usually unmoderated and anyone can make one. They get spam, trolls and off-topic posts, but people still visit them because they're fun communities where you can speak your mind. People discuss coffee in alt.coffee because it's alt.coffee. If someone decides to be zany and discuss calendars in alt.coffee, let them. Either the regulars won't care or it'll be a fun off-topic thread.

We don't need thread approval babysitting and off-topic threads aren't the work of the devil.

I used to be okay with a NEET thread every once in a while long ago but now it's just an everyday occurrence of shitposting circlejerks. If you're going to have that kind of garbage they might as well go to /soc/.

>>10061553
How new can one be?

>>10061553
>Anything should be allowed. Only illegal content should be deleted.
wouldn't that defeat the concept of a specific board?
Besides we already have /b/ for random crap

>>10061525
This.

>>10060675

Everything otaku related, manga and anime too.

I don't get it, why would you want people who post in off-topic threads to decide what /jp/ is for?

Well, we had a sticky last month that was pretty on point as far as I'm concerned.

Except for banning Zun!bar. That was a total boner killer.

>>10061571
He just said everything should be allowed. Where you dropped, son?

>>10060700
Otaku Culture is even broader than Japan/General.

>>10061599
Banning !bar was a step in the right direction. Now Sudo just needs to be banned.

>>10061613
Can't wait! They are the ones who are holding /jp/ back and making it shitty.

>>10061628
Shut nigger they certainly don't help.

>>10061628
/q/ueers are inept. No surprise.

>>10061628
is that /jp/ or /q/?

>>10061628
If you do a search for Sudo's posts, you'll see the only discussions he cares to participate in in are anime and video game discussions. On top of that, he chooses to constantly post anime screencaps featuring a certain character as an avatar.

>>10061640
>uses a avatar
why didn't he got banned sooner?

>>10061637
/jp/
>>10061640
You do realize that you are in an off-topic thread right now, right?

>>10061574
Every board on 4chan is a themed /b/.

>>10061656
Except it's not.

>>10061574
>wouldn't that defeat the concept of a specific board?

This is why I posted the newsgroup example. People are here on /jp/ - Otaku Culture because they have at least some interest in Otaku Culture. I don't go to /co/ and get frustrated that nobody is talking about Warhammer.

You don't have to rigorously define what is and is not allowed. "Otaku Culture" is an umbrella term anyway. Just let people talk about whatever they want. If that turns out to be pooping and calculus, then so what? You can still discuss your things. People will still be interested in them because, again, people are coming here because of the board name.

All you would need to do is have some thick skin and avoid posts you don't like. This is the case already, and overzealous moderation isn't helping. I'm not upset by kig threads, I just accept they're not relevant to my interests and move on. This is natural. So why are people upset by blatantly off-topic threads? Just apply the same principle.

And if you don't like /jp/ as it is now or how it would be as I'm describing it, then move on to somewhere else. I know that's a weak argument, but think about it: you don't go to GameFAQs and complain it isn't Something Awful. You just go to wherever you like. You can't force the user base to discuss certain things or conduct themselves in a certain way. And this is the "problem"--the user base, not what the staff are or aren't doing.

>>10061658
Well, some of them are safe for work.

>>10061658
Except it is.

>>10061654
The only difference being that I'm not constantly posting in off-topic threads with an avatar.

>>10061656
I get that. But what's the point in allowing everything.

>I want to talk about computers!
>>>/g/
>IT IZ ALLOWED!!!!!

it would make /jp/ a chaotic board without any theme or direction.

>>10061654
/jp/ is a semi-topical board intended for Japanese VN's,LN's and Touhou.
>>10061661
look I,m not autistic I can ignore. What I,m afraid of is that Otaku stuff discussion gets shoved out in favor of random crap.

>What topics do you feel do not belong on this board?
NEET blogs. They attract the worst crossboarding shitposters that can't keep their retarded brain cells in their threads and insisting on scattering themselves everywhere.

>>10060721
>doujin music on /mu/
fuck off, you don't belong here

Even with no moderation and shitpost spams the board is relatively ontopic. I don't know what everyone complaining about.

I'm not really sure what people expect. /jp/ doesn't feel any different without moderation except a few extra shitposts and that initial shitstorm.

>>10060753
hahaha complaining about weaboos on a weaboo site. get out tryhard.

According to posts I've seen of people complaining, there's a different board for everything we talk about so we don't even need this board.

How true do you think this is?

>>10061704
partly true. I think there are some things however that can only be discussed here. Like Touhou.

>>10061677
>What I,m afraid of is that Otaku stuff discussion gets shoved out in favor of random crap.

Those threads aren't going to get deleted. I doubt /jp/ would ever be so fast that Touhou/VN/doujin threads are constantly being pruned because of all the threads about cheese and socks. Perhaps there should also be a rule against bots to prevent something like Saten spammer, but my point is there should be no rule governing what content we can and cannot post.

Anyone can make a thread. Anyone can post in a thread. You get to choose which threads you make or post in. I always see people say, "Oh, I wish there was a doujinsoft thread! We never have them any more! ;__;"
Hello? There's a form at the top of every page where you can submit a thread.
This applies for existing threads, too: "I want to discuss STGs but people keep blogging!"
Hey, the STG thread is still there on page 7. The fact that some people are posting off-topic things does not take away your ability to post in that thread.
We used to have a mantra that you needed to use all of the pages to browse /jp/ properly, and I still don't get why people think only the first two or three pages count. Not that I have anything against the bump/sage system and I think we should have standards, but those standards should be adopted and spread through the time-honoured tradition of "discussion" rather than enforcement.

>>10061703
I'm said those boards complain about the weeaboos and for that reason can't have a sucessful thread. Nothing to do with me. Go try to make a nice weeaboo thread on one of the mainstream boards.

>>10061697
I made a successful doujin music thread on /mu/ once but that was a long time ago.

>>10061704
obv /jp/ should just be for touhous. just rename it to Touhou Generals.

>>10061704
don't be so naive expecting that those boards will accept /jp/ related content that's why we have /jp/. just get out

>>10061716
>I doubt /jp/ would ever be so fast that Touhou/VN/doujin threads are constantly being pruned because of all the threads about cheese and socks.
Yesterday, /jp/ got excited that the janitor was gone, and threads would 404 in three and a half hour if nobody bumped them. That's astoundingly shitty. /jp/ can be stupid fast when people are going out of their way to shit it up.

>>10061726
Every board has times when shitposts spam it. If people found out /n/ had no mods it would be spammed too.

I take it back, we still don't have a janitor. Some temp janitor from a larger board made this thread to keep this shit out of /q/, didn't they?

>>10061733
The problem is we have some astounding faggots in /jp/, who if they see a cheese thread, will promptly make a pizza thread, a sandwich thread, a sushi thread, a ramen thread, a wine thread, a co la thread, and two dozen other shitty food threads as some sort of retarded protest. Or maybe they're trying to prove some sort of point. And then somebody has to come down and clean all that shit out.

Content control based on user interest instead of moderation would work just fine if people didn't go out of their way to act like total fuckwits.

>>10061726
Then bump them. Contribute something if you're against just posting "lol bampu pantsu". The problem was that everyone chose to ignore the on-topic threads because something wacky was happening. It's like in school when they would have a non-uniform day and nobody did any work.

You can even argue this happens anyway. If there is no interest in a thread, people will not discuss anything in it, the thread will die. If you are interested in a thread, post in it. If nobody does, this is the user base's fault. That's not to say it's a bad thing; I made a karaoke thread a few months ago and it got three replies. I am not going to force people to pretend they are interested in it. If nobody is, fine, the thread dies. If someone is, the thread is there if they want it (or they could make their own).

Poster interest is the best moderation system.

>>10061741
They get bored after a time. Look at how the shitposts have died down to the rate they're at now. Is it really so bad on this board right now?

To me it doesn't feel much different from normal except with a few extra random posts, but at least those random posts have /jp/ images.

>>10061742
I do go out of my way to bump them, but I can hardly come up with six interesting contributions to ten different threads in a day. And that's what's necessary to keep them afloat if people are running the spam engine in /jp/.

>>10061751
Threads can be remade. It doesn't matter if they're bumped off. If there is an interest they will be reposted. Hell, they will probably be reposted even without interest.

>>10061746
Yes, it's not so bad. This is partially because there were over A HUNDRED AND FORTY threads deleted by a janitor or moderator in the last twenty-four hours. If they weren't, /jp/ would be a shithole like it was two days ago.

People thought like that and waited for the shitposts to die down a few years ago. Endless shitposts became the new normal.

delet jp

>>10061764
Adding on to this - Honestly, I'm a pretty big fan of the idea of having the userbase determine what stays and what goes instead of the relying on moderators to do it. But that doesn't work when you have people going out of their way to completely swamp /jp/ in shitty threads. I have no idea why these fuckers insist on ruining self-sufficiency for everyone else in /jp/, but they're here, and I don't think they're going anywhere. Until 4chan puts together a ban system that actually works (probably never,) /jp/ will be dependent on moderators if it wants to have more than two dozen on-topic threads around at a time.

Guys I went into a bookstore and they had Twilight and Fifty Shades of Gray at the front!

I'm never going to that bookstore ever again.

>>10061792
Every message board ever has idiots. In a way they're a big part of the community ecosystem (ENTERPRISE). You need to have some sort of opposition before you can become self-sufficient, and you have to have trolls before you can learn to ignore the trolls. People are going to say things you dislike anyway, so it's convenient to have people everyone dislikes. Like the Jews.

>>10061803
I wonder if back in the good old days would that kind of smut would be as popular as it is today. Like would people in the 19th century call twilight and that kind of shit good enough to be published or popular in any way?

NEET threads a shit

Giant monsters.
Strange/bizare/relitivly unknown Japanese movies.
Korean Idols
Japanese mythology/folkelore
Limited amount of Japanese literature.
Bushido general.
Japaneae Royalty.
Otaku conversations revolving around dating Japanese women or the lesser Korean girls.
/jp/ image threads or /jp/ meetup threads.
Threads like >/jp/
Japanese street threads
Japanese town/rural villiage threads.
/jp/ mansion fantasy threads
Fig threads
Neet room threads
Obscure doujin threads
Otaku music
Modern state of Japan threads (Like how bad it is and how better off we Otaku are by not going there.)
VNs
Japanese bird threads
Otaku arcade threads