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Actually, I remember reading the exact opposite...

Tohno lacks the skill.
Ryougi could win in a defensive battle, Nasu said so himself.

>>10056128
Shirou can with Nine Lives Blade works

You're wrong. Nasu agreed, don't bother him about it.

Tohno can in fact kill servants.

When he killed Arcueid, 17 cuts landed in "an instant".
This is on the same level as 5th grail war Asassin's Tsubame Gaeshi. This is in fact canon. Non only that, but Arcueid was not able to notice she was being followed, nor feel any killing intent from Tohno until the blade already killed her. This is on the same level as asassin servant presence concealment.

In the official Tsukihime manga, Shiki was capable of slicing and killing lightning shot at him by Roa. A low estimate of the speed required for this would land at 96,000MPH, which is the atmospheric discharge of lightning at denser levels (closer to lower altitudes.)

Tying together presence concealment, Zelretch level ability (flash sheath), and A class speed, Shiki could in fact stand a chance against most servants. His trump card that would place him above anything summoned under asassin card would be that he essentially has an instant kill move if he ever gets near, making him a very deadly oponent.

To use concrete evidence of Shiki proving himself time and time again, we can look at who in fact he has killed.

Nrvnqsr Chaos the 10th apostle. In one attack Tohno managed to kill all 666 of his lives.

Michael Roa Valdamjong, said to be immortal by traveling between Akasha and back, "reincarnating". Tohno severed his connection to Akasha, erasing his existance.

It's good to take note here, that Servants are tied to the Akashic record in the throne of heroes, which is what allows them to be summoned in the first place. When shiki kills a servant, they can no longer be summoned. Sounds like just the kind of person Archer was looking for.

In the "Talk" side story for Tsukihime, Tohno manged to kill the forest of Einnashe, the seventh dead apostle. He also managed to kill Einnashe's reality marble.

Who cares, the superior Shiki can kill servants and that's all that matters.

>>10056176
>defensive battle

how can 1on1 duel be "defensive"?

Shirou himself can also kill servants

whats new

>>10056197
Ask Nasu. I have no clue what he meant by that.

I can't take Type-Moon stuff seriously.

>>10056215
its not for taking seriously
I don't even take real life seriously

Just equip servants with submachine guns and it's done.

>>10056181
Even though I'm a Shiki-fag, here are a few things.
>No Nanaya mode
> Shiki is estimated to be capable of performing 40 slashes per second. This is supposedly on the level of gimped Lancers attacks.
> Aside from Arthuria, all Servants are merely copies of the real Heroes from the Throne of Heroes, so even if destroyed, the real ones are unaffected.

>>10056274
The Nanayas could dodge bullets. Unless it's an Archer or Lancelot with a heavy machine gun, Nanaya and Satsujinki can escape

>>10056302

Then equip them with biological or chemical weapon.

>>10056313
you can't stop Satsujinki

>>10056313
>Implying Shiki can't kill those.
He already saw the death of the Air and a part of Nature.

can Shiki kill th shittyness of this thread

>>10056320
>>10056316

Then I clap Type-Moon.

Wow.