/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Yes and I secretly wish I was part of Japan and Japanese culture because of how superior it is.

>the west

Check your privilege, binary geographer.

Yes but western music is better. Japanese games are also getting worse and american's are getting better.

>>10034465
Kill yourself the world doesn't want you.

>>10034469
what?

>>10034473

>>10034462
I actually prefer western art better, Japan's is generic as fuck.

It's just that Japan appeals my pedophilia more often.

>>10034490
Please kill yourself

>>10034494
If you want me dead, you'll have to do it yourself.

>>10034465

>>10034491
how is Japanese music better than western music go ahead. I want to hear what you have to say you seem to be so knowledgeable about music.

yea :) and btw i like ur pic naruto is my fav anime

>>10034514
When you say western music is supperior he probably thinks you mean shit music such as lady gaga, justin bieber, nickelback, ect.

>>10034545
please continue

>>10034552

Metal defense force is here yay!

>>10034552
lady gaga is pretty good.

>>10034556
Metal and pop aren't the only two genres, you know.

>>10034552
I don't see how Jpop is better than western pop.

>>10034552
thums up!!

There are certain aspects of their culture that I prefer to my own, and other that I dislike. No country is perfect.

>>10034560

Both are shit

>>10034570
This guy. This guy right here.

>>10034574
he is not wrong

>>10034565
I will say that I prefer Japanese culture, though. This may be due to the fact that I do not have to experience the negative aspects, though. I don't live there or anything. If I did, my opinion might change.

>>10034570
80s synthpop was great, fuck you.

>>10034462

I've always hated the "tallest nail" mentality and group think.
I enjoy some of the entertainment but not the culture.

i-is this what they call "Japan otaku"?

I like japanese culture better. I only like japan for its media though.

>>10034552
All of those are better than Jpop, except for Bieber who is mostly on the same level (but still better than some stuff like Johnny's boys bands.)

I respect some of their social values and choice of standards (YYYY-MM-DD, email over texting, etc.). Unfortunately they get a lot wrong too. They're also ugly people.

Best pop culture on the planet, though, hands down.

>>10034664
All they're social values are bad they are socially behind.

>>10034664
>YYYY-MM-DD
Do people actually care about this? Why?

>>10034664
I thought texting was more popular in Japan.

>>10034684
I think that poster got confused because they call texts "mail". Or maybe I'm missing something.

I hate america and all the american. (Even you american /jp/sy)

I'll stick with japan since western culture is just american culture now.

>>10034681
Makes them feel superior or something? I don't know, it's a pretty stupid thing to care about.

>>10034684
They generally use email instead of SMS. That is, mobile Internet email sent to an email address using POP3/IMAP/whatever. It's cheap (or free), it's open, it's a more robust standard. SMS has a lot of shortcomings and I'm ashamed everyone else still uses it. Is it true that in North America some providers charge you for *receiving* a text message?

>>10034681
Sortable, no ambiguity (nobody anywhere writes YYYY-DD-MM unless they're being a jerk).

>>10034736
>Is it true that in North America some providers charge you for *receiving* a text message?

If you pay by the minute, like with a prepaid phone, you will lose maybe half a minute if you open a text message that has been sent to you.

I don't even know what culture means. Is Touhou culture?

>>10034740

Yes, let's all act innocent about some retarded stuff we do. After that I'm going to raise the temperature to 150 Fahrenheit and walk 10 miles with my 13 feet long car.

> They're also ugly people

Hearing that from a fat american nigger almost made me giggle.

>>10034753
How does this work? Do they send you the header but not the message or something? Does your phone have to request it from the SMSC, then you are charged?

The way it normally works is someone sends a message, it goes to an SMSC, it goes to your phone. Receiving a text includes receiving its contents (it's only 160 bytes per text).

If I sent fifty texts to someone in the US, would they be charged for them all? Seems very abusable. And very arbitrary, though the entire idea/technology/pricing of SMS is like that anyway.

>>10034801
I have a shitty prepaid phone, and when someone sends me a text message it shows the first few letters of the message, with no sender information. Then if I choose to open the message it takes a second to retrieve it and I'm charged half a minute. I'm sure on a better phone it would at least show the sender, but hey, I almost never text so it doesn't matter.

But the person you send the text to would have to open it in order to be charged. Just sending it to them doesn't do it. Many people have plans that give them unlimited texting, or several hundred texts a month, though, or something, so they don't have to worry about it.

>>10034768
Don't call me a nigger, I'm 100 percent aryan. Also, your dumb little kids' cartoons mimics our facial structure. Japs are at least smart enough to know they aren't a beautiful race.

>>10035920
I don't know why people use this picture seriously

That's like me posting a picture of Angelababy and then some fat white bitch with a fugly face in the same image.

Japanese culture has found cute girls doing cute things. As long as the West doesn't integrate this simple yet crucial element to its culture, Japanese win by default.

>>10035935
That's what is posted sometimes on /cgl/'s beauty/skin care threads and usually accompanied by '>tfw you'll never be as pretty as an average korean gf'.
Pisses everyone off.

I like their idealized culture, they're aesthetic and their pop culture.

>>10034462
Yes. If western culture was superior then I wouldn't constantly be consuming Japanese media.

>>10035965
Actually Korea is very look conscious (That's the reason for all the PS and skincare stuff there) so it's true that they look more physically pleasing than most people (I'm trying to make this sound less like I'm sucking Korean dick but it doesn't sound good) I really wish the west didn't embrace the "accept yourself" movement so much so we could have more pretty people around.

>>10035997
But if we let go of the 'accept yourself' movement, then nobody would ever consider a /jp/sy to be their qt boyfriend.

>>10035966
>pop culture
You guys do realize that japan and korea's pop culture is a lot like late 80's and 90's western pop culture, right? As in, all boy or all girl bands dressed alike and synchronized movements and sparkles and stuff?

>>10036050
Yes but it's more modern and cute

Korean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvyyHSeJBWs

Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNg3mcjhq9w

america seems to be in a shitty era where the only music being produced is pretentious "indie" horseshit and nigger babble over wobbles.

yeah no thanks i'll take j-pop over that any day.

please remind me again what "culture" americans have. we have an affinity for blowing shit up, we have the best serial killers, the best food that is the worst for you, and that's it. i've thought about american "culture" a lot and it basically boils down to either shooting something or eating.

>>10036079
I'm black so I probably shouldn't say this but I wish we weren't a "melting pot" so we could actually develop our own culture and learn to get along with each other.

>>10036079
Well, I agree America is quite shitty but I'm from Europe so I guess I have it better than most guys ITT.
Seriously, though, classical music, lovely architecture, classical music, amaizing art in a huge variety of styles to suit the tastes of every individual, charity events, festivals, tea parties(that I'm forced to attend by my /cgl/ gf).
These are all part of Western culture that japs jelly at(according to everyone in my year spent there).
I agree that current mainstream music is really shit, but look a bit at our history and you'll find a shitload of things to love.
I personally got addicted to both, classical music and jazz lately. J-pop is Justin Bieber compared to it.
If you are looking for a modern take on it, look at Hans Zimmer. Shit's amazing, yo.

>>10036079
What about just normal rock and roll?

>>10036099
Normalfag eurotrash please leave your input is not welcome on AMERICAN /jp/ matters.

>>10036079
Move to Europe(Britain, Ireland) or Australia. You won't even have to learn another language and you will get the benefits of living in a country with an actual culture!

>>10036099
Yea, Europe sounds awesome. If we were still in like, the 18th century or something. But we're not. Europe's history is not the same thing as its current culture.

>>10036108
Take this and be quiet, grown ups are talking.

>>10036124
I don't eat burgers I'm a vegan.

>>10036106
we're quite good at that. our musical history is astounding. there's plenty of culture associated with music. but is it really comparable to historical asian culture? in any way? truth is we don't have much history to compare to them.

although i can think of one thing america and japan have in common; we're both nations built on top of the graves of the natives.

>>10036110
>australia
>culture

who am i quoting?

>>10036119
Actually, the west(both Europe and 'murica) have a really intricate and unique culture, it's just that it is more subtle than that in developing/recently developed countries. Not only that, but the fact that we were brought up in it makes it more difficult for us to notice it, but it's still there. The things that we take for granted and think of as 'normal'. That's our culture.

>>10036129
Ainu people still live there they just blend because they aren't really wanted in day to day life.

>>10036129
>Historical asian culture
>The west doesn't have much history
Do you even general western history?

>>10036079
I've wondered if many Americans feel like you just described. It does feel kind of soothing to live in a place that has been monoethnic and monolingual for hundreds of years.

Because the west was subverted by Jews.

No culture is superior to any other.
There are certain aspects of a culture that may appeal to you, some that do not.
Thanks to the spread of globalization it's impossible to ignore them, so the best course of action is adapting: Pick what you like out of japan, take what you like out of italy, take what you like out of kazakhstan, noone's stopping you and forcing to fit into one, and only one cultural model.
Sage for not /jp/, unless someone admits that he's a weeaboo otaku, then i'll bump this thread and offer to suck his dick.

>>10036148
This.
We live in a world where cultural appropriation is very common place(fuck, we're on 4chan, a copy of nipponese 2chan).
However, just because a particular culture may appeal to you doesn't means that that culture is a detrimental one, or even that there is a lack of culture in that particular country. Culture is everywhere. Good or bad, it's subjective.

>>10036170
>a copy of nipponese 2chan
FUTABA

>>10036133
Both those words appeared in that guy's post.

>>10036143
nope. i slept through US history in high school. what i'm trying to communicate however is that we don't really have any traditional things that stand out enough to be called culture.

it's also very difficult to say which nation, one being thousands of years old, one being only hundreds of years old, is better. i'm sure we'll find some real culture in the next thousand or so years.

i don't even know a lot about ancient japanese history for comparison. i've tried looking for books. the local library is pretty crap. i did find one that was basically wikipedia summations of the different japan time periods. that one was so uninformative i didn't feel like finishing it. they don't even have it in the catalog anymore.

>>10036135
Native Americans still live here they just blend in because they aren't really wanted in day to day life.

>>10036170
>Culture is everywhere.
But how intensely? It would be silly to say that all places are equally cultural.
>Good or bad, it's subjective.
Indeed. That's why it would be weird to ignore the whole thing. What is there to lose if you abstain from preaching?

>>10036198
>we don't really have any traditional things that stand out enough to be called culture
Not a redneck myself but I am quite sure that US has a very particular culture, it's just that its culture expanded all over the globe and is now a 'mainstream' thing that most people can't even notice. Take for instance the view of how the person who you want to date should have a sense of humour. This sounds like very normal and natural, but in a lot of cultures, that is very irrelevant when it comes to dating/a life partner. It's the little things that make up a culture. The norms, values and beliefs of that society all fall together like in a puzzle, making up a country's culture.
>being only hundreds of years old
American culture is just a continuation of European culture, so it's not really just a few hundred years old, because when those people decided to colonize the Indians, they already had a culture.
> we'll find some real culture in the next thousand
Like I said, the west already has a culture, which has evolved through thousands of years of history.

As for books, try looking up on wikipedia's citations and see who are the authors of those books on ancient Japan and try to order them off of Amazon or eBay.

>>10036245
Hear that sound? The sound of rustled jimmies.

>>10035920
>100% aryan
Funfact: Aryans are persians so you are 100% sandnigger.

>>10036369
Ethnic iranians are white.
I mean it as in, "they look like an european", not as in "14/88 gas kike infested amerikkka".

If you want to disprove his argument, mention indians, they're aryans, but don't look like a "white" person at all.

>>10036245
>Take for instance the view of how the person who you want to date should have a sense of humour. This sounds like very normal and natural
Because it is. You're implying that having a sense of humor is somehow an American peculiarity. What's next on the list, the capability to love?

>The norms, values and beliefs of that society all fall together like in a puzzle, making up a country's culture.
Does that include traditions, language, art, land and religion? What about originality?

>a continuation of European culture
Why not just "global culture", hmm?
>the west already has a culture
And again...

>>10036381
>Ethnic iranians are white.
Um, no

It's relatively easy to oppress other cultures when you have no distinct culture of your own. How can you value something that you don't understand? All proper dictators replace old traditions with new, twisted versions.

>>10036470
Um, yes.

oh wow, two can play this baseless game, but i win! Because i can easily tell you to go check pictures of Iranian people on google!

>>10036605
Oh, please, Iranians don't look European unless you want to cherrypick Greeks or Portuguese

>>10036079
I can't believe /jp/ is this stupid. Not one person here has shown how Jap culture is superior. First off, as far as music goes name a Jap band ever as good/popular as rolling stones? Doesn't exist. Pop? Micheal Jackson. They don't come close. They just make cheap imitations of our music from years ago. You whine about dubstep? Wait 10 years and that will be their music just like they are ripping our shit from 90s. Their movies? Garbage. Anime? Ripped from Disney and pretty shitty these days. Suicide rate? High. Lives consist around their jobs so they can't have any fun. Only positive I can think of is crime rates but they still have gangs too. Everyone looks alike so that is depressing too.

Video games?

Is that why have koreans obsessed with starcraft and china with wow? Koreans cuter? They are nothing without plastic surgery and outside your warped kpop view they are ugly.
I thought /jp/ was above the weaboo bullshit. Comedy? Vastly superior. History? Most important historic events by fay happened in Europe. Also, Jap culture is still patriarchal which is pretty damaging to women. They have alot of domestic violence.

Found guilty but inoccent in Japan? You are fuck their court system finds 95 percent of people on trial guilty.

>>10036678
Fascinating.

>>10036099
Rammstein said it best in "We're all living in America"

Face it Euro's and Canada. You're living in America. You have the option of eating American food, you can wear American clothes, your cinemas show American movies, your TV's broadcast American shows, your radios play American music. All foreign food here is Americanized, the only foreign thing about clothing in America is that it's made in foreign sweat shops. Very rarely do foreign films succeed or even gain a following in America, and if they do they're only those artistic movies. Monty Python is the only non American tv show I know here in America that has a following.

You know who our president is and how our govt works. You know our countries issues, you know where our military is. You know everything about our country and if you try talking to an American about any other country, we can't tell you shit. Even Canada and Mexico, the countries we trade with the most, we couldn't tell you much about either country. Why, well one because yes, we are ignorant, but second because we don't have to. The rest of the world could stop or go to war or whatever, radical governmental change, and unless the leader is straight talking shit to America, it won't affect us. Deal with it, you're not as important as you think we are.

Look I know I'm sounding like a typical ignorant American who's sounding butthurt, but I mean, I can afford to be, because in the long run, your country doesn't matter to me. It doesn't have to. Now I know that sounds terrible, and it probably is, but if you don't like it stop caring about America so much. Your hatred and constant bickering about us only proves how much we affect your life.

>>10036678
Blah Blah

>>10036686
How did you respond so quickly? Also, thanks for debunking my points oh wait you can't because they are FACTS. Fuck Japan.

>>10036686
>>10036697

>>10036678

How's it feel being such a miserable little fuck hahaha!

Why does everyone have to state their opinions as facts?

I actually kinda like dubtep, but its hardly mainstream music of today. They rarely play it on the radio. I think electronic music is pretty good like Daft Punk. HIPHOP culture is huge in Japan.

>>10036726
It is a fact that Japan isn't superior if you look at the facts like salaries and quality of life index.

>>10036725
Sorry someone had to wake you up from your imaginary heaven in Japan.

Most of my hobbies include japanese stuff so I like them. I don't really care about western culture.

>>10036762
I'm curious anon what hobbies of yours is japanese?

>>10036741
Wow
I didn't even know I was arguing about whether a country was superior to another country or not but I guess you're 100% correct man especially since we're talking about cultures.

>>10036694
>[...] and unless the leader is straight talking shit to America, it won't affect us.
u mena "it doesn't affect ordinary citizens' lives in an apparent way"

>Now I know that sounds terrible, and it probably is, but if you don't like it stop caring about America so much.
That would be a magnificently idiotic thing to do.

>>10036678
>a Jap band ever as good/popular as rolling stones?
Shit

>Micheal Jackson
Shit (Latoya is the only good Jackson)

>Their movies? Garbage. Anime? Ripped from Disney and pretty shitty these days

Opinions and untrue

>They are nothing without plastic surgery

Nothing wrong with that

>outside your warped kpop view they are ugly.

Most people are ugly

>Jap culture is still patriarchal which is pretty damaging to women. They have alot of domestic violence.

Don't give a shit really

>Found guilty but inoccent in Japan? You are fuck their court system finds 95 percent of people on trial guilty.

Can't be helped

>>10036803
>rolling stones shit
I am pretty sure even if you thought that this argument was about culture and rolling stones did have a more GLOBAL presence than any jap band.

>>10036803
That isn't a rebuttal. You just threw out your opinions and we were never discussing what is "good". We are discussing which culture is superior. US clearly has spread its culture farther.

A pro-human life culture recognizes the requirements of proper human survival, namely the values of reason, individualism, happiness, rights and capitalism.[5]

In other words, pro-human life culture is Western culture. And the extent to which a nation embraces Western culture is the extent to which it is free, prosperous, modern and peaceful—that is, supportive of human life. One need only look at life expectancies around the world to see that this is true.

Is there a point to culture?
I don't believe there is and if there isn't then everything to do with this question is subjective

>>10036823
>culture

I for one look forward to the day when everyone is a dirty fat fuck.

>>10036815
I don't care

>>10036823
I wasn't arguing because this entire thing is stupid and I was just commenting on shit that caught my attention.

I like my own culture and japanese culture equally. Both have their merits.

I would immerse myself in japan without a second thought, but I don't think I could ever totally cut myself off from western culture.

>>10036803
>shit
wrong

>shit
wrong

>opinions and untrue
Yes it is true anime got started after jap watched disney fantasia

>nothing wrong with that
Everyone knows being plastic and fake is unnatural beauty

>most people are ugly
Caucasians have more attractive people according to statistics.

>dont give a shit
If you are a woman you do and they are wising up and getting the fuck out.

What the fuck is jap culture exactly?

>>10036843
Hilarious image.

>>10036852
>statistics

>>10036852
Still Shit

Still Shit

Source

Opinions

Like I said before most people are ugly

Still not giving a shit

>>10036079
Are you seriously hating American music because it's all underground? This past decade has been the best decade music has ever seen.

>>10036890
>Opinions

>>10036893
ebin meme arrow :-DDDDD

>>10036900
>Thanks Honey~!

>>10036900
Nice contentless shitpost

>>10036921
Thanks!

I see the anti Japan shitposters are up again.

>>10036833
>In other words, pro-human life culture is Western culture.
In other words, Western culture is pro-human life culture. Implication doesn't work both ways.

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Jeez where is the moderation when we need it?

>>10036933
Reported for announcing a report.

>>10036926
HURDUR JAPAN IS NUMBER 1 if you think differently you are a shitposter.

If you say America music is shit you aren't paying attention. Grizzly Bears is great.

>>10036968
acting the way you do in everyone of these threads makes you are a shitposter.

>>10036968
You are a shitposter when it's offtopic, retard.

>>10036079
present american music is garbage, their golden era is long gone. disgusting and generic, devoid of all creativity.

>>10037070
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzU9OrZlKb8

I mostly agree but Britney Spears is timeless for me.

>>10037070
Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxhaRgJUMl8

>>10037592
I was thinking of bands like that when he said american music sucks. You know the lame ass indie shit that sounds like stuff that came out almost twenty years ago, but hey if if you like what pitchfork feeds you that's coolio.

>>10037641
I tried to post a band people might have heard of.

No, because Japanese culture is just emulated US culture plus statism and collectivism.

>>10037641
What you say doesn't make any sense. You just end of labeling everything as indie shit then nothing will please you.

>>10037641
Post 20 year old band that sounds like that

>>10037713
It is a harsh judgement, maybe you can show me something to redeem me from it because my mind is still (mostly) open.