/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>17324743
it's copypasta, he should already know what it says

>>17323029
Good pasta. Always enjoy reading this.

>>17327442
stale imo

very stale

>>17317138
It's not really surprising that /a/ is a less chilled out place compared to /jp/. It's much more active and thus attracts more normalfags and newfags, it would be even a worse place if they weren't doing so.

/jp/ can't take it easy.

>>17299455
But surely there have got to be places (both online and offline) that are still about non-modern otaku culture like the things you mentioned (doujinshi media and electronics). Where are they? Please tell me.

>>17299954
And it just happened to die now? Has enough time passed so that most of the original users have simply got old enough to not have time/interest anymore? Even /prog/ is on the verge of death lately. There must still be some place, somewhere. I want to experience the warm, fun feeling of browsing old /jp/ again ;_;

>>17332007
These are not easy times anon.

>>17335969
I'd be able to take it easier if you stopped bumping this kuso thread

>>17315015
I completely agree. Generals have no place on imageboards.

>>17335995
I'm sorry, please don't be mad at me.

Rest assured my options field is correctly filled in now.

>>17315015
It also discourages people from making threads about a topic or another. It also discourages people from getting introduced into a topic.

With generals there's no longer: "Oh yeah. I was asking that question too!" or "That sounds interesting. I wonder what he's complaining about." when people scroll past the front page.

Everything is just contained into this stupid cage with "disucssions" barred behind 3000 different generals. Generals in itself are so unsuited to an imageboard it hurts. The only way to enter a general is to already know about its content. Or to read the obligatory pastebins tagged into the OP. But if the topic "Elona General #3mil+2" doesn't catch your interest, you'll never introduce yourself to it.

But maybe if you scroll past the front page and see a picture of the the gameplay and somebody complaining that his pet little girl fell down the well, all because he wanted to wish for a godly bed, you might get intrigued

clearly the board needs to be divided into /to/ for touhou and /jp/ for subhuman scum like idolfags, vnfags and the rest.

>>17336167
Making boards for a single franchise is never a good idea. See /mlp/, since there isn't that much canon material to discuss the board has turned into a waste dump of roleplaying and fanfiction generals

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>>17336173
This.
Imagine /a/ only being about Isekai or only about SoL yuri.

It's better to just isolate generals into /jpg/.

>>17335943
Isn't /prog/ dead?

>>17336173
touhou is as big part of imageboard culture as mlp is was, don't see why it wouldn't deserve its own board.

>>17317959
Time is a flat circle and so is earth.

>>17336045
Your complains make no sense at all. Not only is it perfectly possible for someone to still see a post with the usual bizarre Elona incident while scrolling through /jp/ and get interested in the game (both inside the Elona general because it's still a thread which shows the latest 4 posts in the main board, and outside of it because there are no rules forbidding talking about something outside its general), but things have always been like that - if you really don't care about something, you'll shut yourself off to it even if people are talking about it outside its main discussion spot. Just like you and your blind hatred for generals, since you despise them so much that you completely discarded the possibility of a random post made in it attracting someone's attention.

>>17336195
Making an entire board for generals is a much worse idea, you know.
Take a single look at >>>/vg/ and you'll understand why.

>>17336336
Yes. And now imagine all those threads in /v/.
So either isolate them or delete them. Latter will enrage people.

>>17315015
>If there's currently nothing to talk about in your interest
Clearly there must be, or else their threads wouldn't be so active. If any general spends its entire life cycle talking about things that are off-topic to either their subject or the board they reside in, then it's a problem with that general in particular (and as such it deserves punishment), not with all generals as a whole.
Generals can only become a problem because our moderation (and in fact, our population as well) usually isn't committed enough to determine whether they're actually being problematic or not, since that would require effort and dedication. Why don't you take a few minutes off your time seeing if people are behaving properly in any given general, and reporting their posts if they're misconducting?

>>17336331
Replies within a general are definitely different than from a single OP topic. That was my point. Replies within generals are usually mid discussion, so less likely to spark interest. Example: "You can farm wishes in Noyel/Give your pet wings to prevent that."
Also this seething rage you are seeing doesn't exist. I just don't see the point of over 50% of the front page being hidden threads. It beats the point of an anonymous imageboard, especially one already as slow as /jp/.

On that topic: I got into Touhou, because it was spammed back on /a/. With all sorts of different topics. So you were bound to see more than just a single topic/reply. Eventually I caught on that it was a shmup and got interested.
This wouldn't have happened with the same general sticking around, with the same picture and the same OP post.

>>17336379
Do you know the Katawa Shoujo general? I've never been in one, but recently saw that it's STILL active.
What the fuck do they even talk about? It's not like we're still discussing F/SN. And F/SN definitely has more content to discuss than KS.
So would you have it deleted? Or heavily moderated? What should happen to a general like that?

>>17336454
I'm looking at it right now and it seems to be a tripfag circlejerk with some Katawa Shoujo pics (but no game discussion).

There's precedent of the mods getting rid of generals on /vg/ when they got too bad, like the Kerbal Space Program one, or Starcraft 2 more recently.

>>17336454
>Or heavily moderated?

That's what's happening on /jp/. Every warosu fills with hundreds of deleted posts, all coming from the same three generals.

>>17336454
I have no fucking idea either, but if it's still alive more than 3000 threads later, then certainly it means there's still an interest in the series. Even on /vg/ threads can die for good all the time when people truly get tired of talking about something, I've seen it happen a few times just after I got interested in some games.

A possible problem is that because generals are somewhat isolated from the rest of their home board, people who don't frequent them aren't likely to take a look at them, possibly finding rule-breaking posts. And because the communities of generals are often somewhat closed, their residents don't report rule-breaking posts as long as they're within their level of tolerance - which leads to the usual misconceived view the average used has about them, that all of them are just circlejerks without rules that never end where people do nothing but shitpost all day, as they're so rarely moderated. Don't forget that generals are still normal threads as well, despite often having board names.

The best thing you can do if you want to see the truly cancerous generals gone is lurking them yourself and reporting their problems. After enough repeated infractions, there might be a chance that moderation decides to make a stand against that thread, causing them to either stop being cancer or getting banned for good. Asking for anything more than that and you're just being mad at people for liking something you don't.

>>17336555
I don't want them gone though. As example I do use the Elona general thread to get ideas for goals or to see what others are up to or what I might have missed.
I just believe that the general, or others like the Idol ones, simply don't belogn on /jp/ and are actively draining its userbase. We are no longer about sharing random japanese related findings, uploading works we found or creating original content (and/or stale memes). We're literally a general dumpster. And that's not what this board is supposed to be about or is it?

>>17335969
there's no meaning in taking it easy in easy times if you can't take it easy when it's difficult

>>17336576
Why does it need to be a general though? If you want to share ideas post a thread with some ideas in the OP and then ask for more. People will post if they are actually interested in the topic. If a good argument can be made that elona belongs on /jp/ then so be it. What really doesn't belong, on /jp/ or any other board, are threads that explicitly lack a topic, generals.

>>17336349
>Latter will enrage people.
So? Let them get mad.

>>17336495
The kerbal space program one broke every single global rule and started a war with the mods to do that.

>>17336495
>>17337424
What happened? /vg/'s archive doesn't go back far enough.

>>17336045
>>17336732
>If you want to share ideas post a thread with some ideas in the OP and then ask for more. People will post if they are actually interested in the topic.

This only works if your topic is a shitpost though.
"Post Kagerou's tits!"
"Why is KanColle better than Touhou?"
">Her lewdness is a great nightmare.
What did he mean by this?"

Stuff like that meant to get other shitposters posting or people coming to tell you to fuck off.

>>17337514
From what I've heard it was just circlejerking that got really bad, plus a game that yields itself to that sort of almost autistic behavior, plus a few other things.
Then when the mods tried to clean it up the circlejerkers started personally attacking them while mass ban evading using mobiles and spamming all of /vg/
It takes a lot to get their attention.

>>17335969
Yes, they are. /jp/ has it easy right now. I am taking it very easy and you should too.

There's no more dynamic content. With everyone scurried away in generals creating their own cultures and pseudo-chat rooms. There's very little reason to interact with /jp/ the board itself. Most of these generals were just dumped here with the users caring very little about /jp/ itself because /jp/ is a general dumping ground now. We've never really had generals before because people understood the concept of constantly bringing up one topic. While there is nothing inherently wrong with it the users understood and generally crawled into IRC channels after while.

I agree with Moot when he said he should have taken a hard stance against generals instead of trying to make everyone happy.

>>17338480
>We've never really had generals before
Dolls, kigurumi, onahole, and idol threads. Most generals are spinoff idol generals. I don't understand why the onahole thread is allowed anywhere and the kigurumi thread is just a bondage play and tranny worship thread in disguise

>>17336576
>simply don't belogn on /jp/
Why? They focus on a /jp/-related material and stay on-topic often enough. The format of the thread doesn't matter, people use the one they do because they find it more convenient, and that same feeling is shared by everyone who actively uses those threads. You just want people to stop doing something you dislike in hopes that they'll go back to how they used to be in the past, and spoiler: they won't, even if all threads that even try to become generals get banned.
This culture change happened because people found out about something that's very convenient, and started enjoying it. There's nothing wrong with it, and it doesn't make 4chan stop being 4chan.

>>17339585
They should be banned and move on to a general based chan.

>>17339585
>This culture change happened because people found out about something that's very convenient, and started enjoying it.
They found a way to bring circlejerking chatrooms to 4chan filled with nothing but obnoxious crossboarders and redditfags.
>You just want people to stop doing something you dislike in hopes that they'll go back to how they used to be in the past
I just want reddit to leave.

>>17339585
>This culture change happened because people found out about something that's very convenient, and started enjoying it.
They found a way to bring circlejerking chatrooms to 4chan filled with nothing but obnoxious crossboarders and redditfags.
>You just want people to stop doing something you dislike in hopes that they'll go back to how they used to be in the past
I just want them to leave.

>>17339736
>crossboarders and redditfags.

Just say /a/ or /v/ or /vg/ posters. That bogeyman site blaming makes you look bad.

>>17339782
Is it really a bogeyman anymore? They literally have a discord chat.

>>17339829
What does discord have to do with reddit and what does reddit have to do with posting? It's just using a site like a bogeyman, like MAL, Gaia, ANN, Tumblr, etc. The "crossboarders" as you call them (and who uses only one 4chan board? If you've only ever been on /jp/ in your entire time, you don't belong on 4chan at all. /jp/ is a board for people banished from older /a/.) are just people who moved or were forcibly moved here and still want to pretend they're in /vg/ or /a/ or /v/ while assuming an air of superiority over /jp/ and being irredeemable autistic trash. What does reddit have to do with anything?

It's also good they have "a" discord. They can begin moving entirely to that as whatever infighting is assuredly going on there causes them to implode. I mean moving to a chatroom to have their chatroom chats is what you want right?

Besides all of that, 4chan itself is a great cancer that has spread over the whole internet; whether people come from some small forum or facebook, they're probably influenced by 4chan anyway and it's just sewage pouring back in on itself.

>>17339736
Because we most definitely never had threads that would be considered generals today before they got popular on /v/. Once we ban generals, 4chan will become good again and all the cancerous posters will leave.
Just to make sure, we should ban all threads as well just in case they're generals in disguise.

>>17340204
Don't you have a furry thread to shitpost in?

I agree with the posters saying we should remove idol generals

Don't worry /jp/ I'll always love you