/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>19505615
so all of this is true in japland too, worse in some cases, but you've addressed the west: and this abomination is far worse than anything nihon can imagine.

The Western fanbase of Touhou (and by this I almost exclusively mean America but Europe does enter into it too, Spain and Mexico being particularly horrible; the term Western in this context usually to mean outside Japan) brings only bad. When this statement is made, western apologists (likely the awful content creators themselves) tend to make the argument:
>but Japan had so much bad stuff too. You only see the good things.
And it is here they make my argument for me. The Japanese fanbase has actually made GOOD things. Doujin manga, games, fanime, artwork, music, cosplay (beyond the abilities of the West), MMD videos, MADs, etc. Has the West produced anything of similar quality to even average level of each of these? The answer is, of course, no.

The West thrives in laziness. This is seen most prominently in the most popular creation tool in it for a long time, Walfas. Walfas is designed from the ground up to have as little effort as possible needed to use it. The best thing to come out of it in my opinion was Reimu fights the bad guys of adrkness, the worst being of course ditr. Hispanic countries use it to this day.

While the Japanese fanbase presents stories in the form of doujin manga with great illustrations (for the most part) or, rarely, in novel form; this is far too much work and skill required for the lowly American. This creature resorts to a far easier tool: fanfiction. While it can be argued that the previously mentioned Japanese forms of writing are technically fanfiction, the doujin manga requires artistic talent in drawing and the rare novel is similar to fanfic, but actually bound and sold usually with illustrations too. The Japanese writing can be an incredible use of the source material while the western equivalents are usually edgy, smut, extremely poorly written resulting in a cringing experience, or awful crossover crossover.

In terms of art, the West suffers probably the worst. In Japan, the characters are drawn in an even average attempt with good anatomy and a cute, if somewhat generic, style. The better works being of incredible style and detail, with either cute, funny, dark (occasionally edgy but the detail and style make up for it), or interesting depending on the character and how their backstory, relationship, abilities, or personality is portrayed . The artists of the West don't even know how to draw the human figure, the human face, or anything without dipping to drawing popular memes. No genuine artistic attempts are made simply memes. You could say my earlier praise of 'funny' subject in art of the east but they are funny without relying on memes. Forget detail, interesting subject matter, or good style, the West draws like a child who scribbled something and their parents said it was great do the child kept doing it thinking it was good. In fact, it's almost like they confuse 'style' for artistic ability as seen in a lot of western artists who find some gimmick but can't draw anything outside of that. Remember, Picasso first had to paint like Rembrandt before he could paint like Picasso.

The West barely puts out games since they take effort. The most recent attempt, a warioware clone called Nitorinc, is laughable when you look into its development. The developers do not care about releasing it or finishing it at all. They slowly add on to it with no end in sight. Despite this they have a steam page with the tragic misinformation that it will come out one day, but that day will never come. Compare to the Japanese developers who put out games far, far beyond nitorinc in far less time. The fact that Nitorinc is one of a literal handful of western games shows my point here. Going through all the Japanese games would simply embarrass them.

I don't think I even need to bring up fanime when all the West has is the single shitty voice drama, walfas PowerPoint presentations, and undertale crossovers.

Music is funny. I think Indonesia and Russia are some of the western fanbase that puts out music at all. Americans dub bad apple and call it a day or simply do guitar covers. My favourite western Touhou song to this day is still that faggot singing about Cirno.

What more can I say? The West doesn't have an equivalent to MMD or MADs. In conclusion, the West is a joke of a community. Places like reddit and tumblr embarrass everyone. The only place of positive content creation is unironically /jp/. This place has put out good stuff and it's far better than anywhere else. Shit, the oc threads have better art than anywhere else in the English speaking world.

>>19478858
It's over.