/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>11835890 (from last thread)
>I wonder if Coco route was cut from Ever17 and it was released exactly as-is but without it, and people eventually made some website explaining most (but not all) of the explanations for stuff they planned on doing based on the hints and foreshadowing throughout the earlier parts, if people would then consider it a complete game too and argue that was what the author intended all along.

There's one big problem with this analogy: Although the loose threads in Remember11's backstory are never explicitly resolved, the main plot (and, for that matter, the main mysteries (that is, the personality transfer phenomenon, newspaper, third personality, etc)) were all resolved; explanations were given and the characters got out of their predicament. Take away Coco route from Ever17, and you wouldn't get any of that.

Instead, it's more like if you took Coco route from Ever17, and reduced it to merely revealing the date twist and the characters being rescued by Blick Winkel, without explanation as to who is who/what the characters' relations are or who summoned Blick Winkel and how. The main plot is still there, it's just the background that is explicitly revealed in Ever17 but has to be inferred in Remember11.

(Yes, I know this is a late reply, but I was pretty much cut off from the rest of the world for this entire last weekend.)

Hello /jp/

So what is your all-time favorite VN?

Mine is Ever17. It's been over 4 years now since I first read it, but I still find it to be the best story I have ever read, seen or played. The only thing that comes close is the generally much less well-received Remember11, of which I love the elements most people hate (such as the troll endings and the lack of direct explanation of the mystery).

Sigh. Please stop bickering, kids. When you see a bad thread, don't shitpost and make it worse, but instead either ignore it or try to salvage and turn it into a good thread. Even if OP is a troll, we can still discuss our favorite VNs.

Mine is Ever17. It's been over 4 years now since I first read it, but I still find it to be the best story I have ever read, seen or played. The only thing that comes close is the generally much less well-received Remember11, of which I love the elements most people hate (such as the troll endings and the lack of direct explanation of the mystery).

Sigh. Please stop bickering, kids. When you see a bad thread, don't shitpost and make it worse, but instead either ignore it or try to salvage and turn it into a good thread. Even if OP is a troll, we can still discuss our favorite VNs.

Mine is Ever17. It's been over 4 years now since I first read it, but I still find it to be the best story I have ever read, seen or played. The only thing that comes close is the generally much less well-received Remember11, of which I love the elements most people hate (such as the troll endings and the lack of direction explanation of the mystery).

You are both retards. They didn't summon Blick Winkel to a specific time-space location, they just made him stick to one timeline.

Consider this: If I draw a line on the ground, and I let you follow it, I can let you, a 3D being, move through 2-dimensional space. Your natural method of movement would be to just move in all directions, but if you decide follow the line, you eliminate one direction of movement.

In the same way we freely move in more directions than just that line direction, Blick Winkel moves between timelines. You can't blame him, it's a natural way of movement for them. So what the Ever17 protagonists did was create two points that were very similar that would attract Blick Winkel's attention. As Blick Winkel would observe those two points, he would slowly realize they are actually two different points, and that there is a timeline connecting them. This was necessary to make Blick Winkel follow this timeline to create the paradox. Without that line to follow, a cause in a different timeline would result in an effect in another timeline, which wouldn't help anyone.

>>7830732
>Yes there is a fourth dimensional being, self, he is a 0 dimensional being though, hes different from BW.
Read your own sentence again. Surely you must realize what's wrong with it?

Hint: A four-dimensional being that's 0-dimensional being is not a four-dimensional being but a 0-dimensional being.

(not listed as CG either)

>>3423768
Still can't do it?

You are weak.

Look upon my true form and despair. For I am as one of the Elder Gods, and to bear witness to the horror of my being is too great a strain for the strongest of human minds. Cast your eyes upon my visage and transcend thought itself. Your madness shall be as mine. There is nothing to fear but fear itself in Japan.

ITT: Karma rearrangements
Awesome nicovideo rearrangement: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/nm4008621
Rock version (by a /jp/ anon): http://www.tindeck.com/listen/uhyh
Crappy rearrangement (by VDZ): http://freedownloads.last.fm/download/330578762/Karma.mp3
Revisit LeMU (by Helblinde): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wum3sub-Lrw
Break Beat remix (by DJ Changsta): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_j0bslHVmY
Lullaby remix (by DJ Changsta): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQQkJiWcQaA
Does anybody have more rearrangements? (not including simple piano covers and the like)

New song
Endless: http://www.tindeck.com/listen/iaqw
Endless (Piano ver.): http://www.tindeck.com/listen/xtjz
FLP: http://www.mediafire.com/?2uvu1zye2gm

From Ever17