/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>44670176
>Boast is more likely. It's very common for characters to BS in Touhou, and SSiB makes that even more clear with Marisa's whole "nothing is faster than light" comment prior to Yorihime reacting to and deflecting her Master Sparks.
I dont know if this is just outright lying by omission or just misremembering the story. Look at the image i posted. Yorihime makes it pretty clear that light speed doesnt mean much to her and that she's faster, which she literally just proved a second ago. You conveniently left out Yorihime's own statement. She validated what Marisa said right after shitting on her attack.
Inb4 ''she's boasting/lying''. That's pretty much the knee jerk reaction people have to this sort of thing. Now think deeply. Why would she boast or lie about this to some impure earthling that's much much weaker than she is? To get validation or to look cool to someone who she just met and who also comes from a shithole ghetto planet (from her perspective at least). Again, why would a blatantly racist lunarian with a superiority complex feel the need to lie about her own abilities to someone she sees as inferior? And from Marisa's perspective she's banking on the speed of her attack being able to overwhelm Yorihime. She knows the extent of her own abilities and she genuinely thought Yorihime wouldn't be able to respond to the attack. Saying that she's lying or boasting to someone she just met while ignoring her own dialogue and the context surrounding the event just doesn't make sense to me.
How hard is it to just take what you see at face value or properly determining the author's intent instead of making weird rationalizations and purposefully leaving out what a character says or ignoring what they say?. That's the other problem i have. People like to pretend that lying and boasting are the ONLY two things a 2hu can ever do. Never mind that they (and real people) lie for a reason. Usually for convenience, to avoid a punishment or to boast. Almost no one lies 24/7 365 about everything. Sometimes a 'hu might tell the truth because there is no reason or benefit to lie. Other times they might be moral and upstanding and aren't prone to lying (Eiki/Kasen). But apparently every single 2hu is a pathological liar whenever they happen to perform a feat deemed too powerful by the readers. Which confuses me since a lot of the powers the man cast has are basically ''fuck physics'' and entire entities can be brought into existence just by pure faith alone. But apparently breaking a law of physics (one that could be disproved in the future) is too much. ZUN could write a story where Ran acts as a speedometer and the person she is measuring turns out to be FTL and people would STILL cope about it. ZUN could also carve the words ''2hus FTL" on Toby Fox's bareback and people would just ignore it.

>>44105728
2hus (a lot of the named ones at least) are much much more powerful than people think. I notice way too many people acting as if they're just bums who could get rekt by some guy with a gun or something. I mean some of them *are* bums (one quite literally) but most of them have reality manipulating powers or powers that allow them to change or break fundamental laws of reality on a conceptual level.
Now i'm not gonna go full powershitter and bore anyone reading this with weird or inaccurate calculations or strange leaps in logic. All you have to do is just observe. Literally just look at their abilities. Kaguya's control over time, Yukari's boundaries, Keine's power to consume and create history (not ''concealing'' history as people think), Yuugi and her huge fucking muscles and her ''Wielding unexplainable phenomena'' which is such vague bullshit that she could feasibly do whatever she wants (like Yukari). The fact that youkai can only be harmed spiritually etc
There's also the mythology that underlies touhou. Literally read any story about gods or supernatural beings from east asian faiths (or any faith in general) and you'll get an understanding of what they can do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a Brain of the Moon to figure out what the cute girls with frilly dresses can do if they're riled up and aren't playing by danmaku rules.
I think people hand wave these stuff away because touhous hold back all the time and more importantly these people have a massive fucking hard-on for muh ''Humanity Fuck Yeah!'', which is dogshit btw but thats a different topic. They want to feel empowered (because HFY is essentially a power fantasy) or maybe they just cant handle the existential dread that comes with the supernatural (which is inherently beyond the laws of nature or science) and humanity not being able to fully comprehend or much less deal with the supernatural aside from a very small portion of humans who can use magic (even then, the only really powerful one is Reimu). This is all extremely ironic since youkai are themselves supernatural and would totally prey on that fear and gain power from it. They're just strong as fuck, no matter how much certain people might not like that. A modern military with all its manpower, logistics and hardware would be wiped out of existence if Yukari just waved her hand.