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>>26261065
I think the issue is that you're already satisfied with the original. Whether it's perfect or not, you enjoy it the way it is, so you see improvements as unnecessary. But what's important to take into account is that not everyone shares the same preferences. What may seem like a minor improvement to you could be a game changer for someone else, and something you find charming could be a deal breaker for others. Acting like those whose aesthetics differ from your own are missing out on the proper experience is pretty presumptuous.

I could do the exact same thing as what you're doing and instead argue that each and every change made by the PS3 version actually improved on the experience by using whatever reasoning sounds good. But I don't because it's entirely subjective and I happen to enjoy both versions anyway.

>>22104588
I feel like he did a really good job in EP4 of blocking certain lines of reasoning/tendencies I had. I remember the scene/argument from pic related sometimes even to this day. Even if you read it "wrong", you don't have to define your enjoyment based on that. You can always reread parts of the story to see the "proper" way of solving it.

>>21976190
And here I was hoping you'd call them objectively worse so I could post this.

>>21759632

>>20982906
>the point is that Maria and Rosa not only objectively have a fucked up relationship

>>20853471
Real life facts don't mean much in fantasy. Also-
>Objectively.

>>19846572
No, love is not composed of empathy, which is the understanding of other people's emotions. This comes about as a consequence of having love. Not necessarily feeling for them, but necessarily an understanding. Putting yourself in someone else's shoes is notoriously difficult, after all.

Water is the most common symbol used for this concept in Taoism, and in Buddhism it's close to sunyata/emptiness and formlessness, a quality integral for liberation from samsara, sought by acknowledging and sublimating the Four Noble Truths to your actions and philosophy in everyday life.

You were correct on summarizing my take if you also follow the line of reasoning to follow some of what >>19851951 and >>19851990 extrapolated, so, simply put, love is the recognition of yourself as a human among other humans, meaning you supersede your values for true objective understanding (see pic related; this is what true objectivity is) by losing your form and becoming like water. Water is formless and pliant, and it takes the form of any container around it. It's also reflective of whatever stands before it. It gives to whatever it must, bends perfectly around all obstacles, and yet it can cut, destroy, and engulf with crushing decisiveness. That it's a "universal good" is on the side, since we're looking now at Taoism and the Four Noble Truths. Apply these attributes to a person: You abandoned your form (values, desires, paradigms, position) and gain the ability to mimic the shape of any being you desire, providing a perfect photic reflection, too (flesh isn't very reflective, after all). You can fill any container (mindset/philosophy/worldview) and have learned to, with perfect elegance, accommodate any obstacle (other people, personal problems) with gentleness, and yet still have a pool of terrible strength at your disposal (the will and discipline to act on what must be done without hesitation). You are no longer at the mercy of those paradigms you've been taught, the desires that festered and grew verdant within you, the reflexive emotions that tempt your mind. You become an objective agent who has abandoned his/her position in return for the right to stand at any vantage point, at any angle, at any situation (ego death).

Tao Te Ching's eighth verse:
"The highest excellence is like (that of) water. The excellence of water appears in its benefiting all things, and in its occupying, without striving (to the contrary), the low place which all men dislike. Hence (its way) is near to (that of) the Tao.
The excellence of a residence is in (the suitability of) the place; that of the mind is in abysmal stillness; that of associations is in their being with the virtuous; that of government is in its securing good order; that of (the conduct of) affairs is in its ability; and that of (the initiation of) any movement is in its timeliness.
And when (one with the highest excellence) does not wrangle (about his low position), no one finds fault with him."

The Four Noble Truths are on the nature of suffering, which are, after all the specifics, a direct path to nirvana through emptiness. Ultimately, the key to overcoming death is overcoming life, and that requires becoming like water--formless--to understand your place and the places of all others around you. Then you can navigate the most tempestuous seas like a halcyon breeze.

Attaining formlessness grants you access to a special form of love for others, manifesting as anything from understanding to empathy to faith. It's very sensible that you would have to abandon your reflexes and empty your mind to see someone else's magic as a truly objective agent of pure understanding. This is, in more depth, what Maria meant with Ange, and what Love generally means in Umineko. Remember, the requirement for Ange to understand Eva (from Ange's perspective) was to lose herself.

>>19813420
>Objectively

>>18201096
>Objectively

>>17511841
This one?

>>17356570
>objectively