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>>5780568
Might as well claim that all of Battler's observations aren't trustworthy either because we don't see 90% of the scenes he's in through his eyes, and because he's also in metascenes with Beato.

The detective viewpoint is a piece's perspective. This is 100% fact, because many scenes that meta-Battler sees are -magic scenes-. The meta-player or whatever you want to call it doesn't come into this at all.

Erika, the piece, cannot falsify her viewpoint. She is the detective. Dlanor even uses this as a point with which to attack Battler in Ep 5's ????, about how it's totally impossible for the detective to lie about what they see. (The detective is required to have an objective VIEWPOINT.)

If you want to deny this you're pretty much claiming that;
A) Ep 5 was entirely pointless. This includes introducing Dlanor into the mix.
B) One of the rules of the game doesn't matter.
C) Knox's Decalogue has no bearing on the game whatsoever. (Hint: It does.)

The rules are sacred.

>>5751989
So you're saying you can't trust any red unless Beatrice reads you the definition for each word in every sentence she repeats? You might as well make the argument that the red truth isn't even the truth, and that Beatrice and everyone else using it has been lying this whole time. That's about as logical.

People seem to think the red truth is about lying or word play akin to lying. It isn't. It's about misdirection.

We are never given a definition for the word 'locked' either. Does this mean we can start saying that 'locked' might mean something other than what we expect it to, and that all of the closed rooms are just extremely stupid word play? We are never given a definition for the word 'dead', either. Or 'the'. Or 'hidden'. Or 'room'. Or 'truth'!

The first red truth we're given, "When I speak the truth, I will use red.", the word 'truth' was never defined. It's entirely possible for her to have meant something other than 'truth', and therefore every red truth in the game isn't trustworthy. For example, maybe she meant it was the 'truth' in another kakera or game board. Or, you know, even 'red' isn't defined. Maybe she meant a different shade of red. Maybe the red truth we see is more of a crimson, or light burgundy. So it all can't be trusted.