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>> No.19693814 [View]
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>>19693697
I think the real problem is that everyone's road to Japanese is gonna be slightly different. What might "work" for you may not work at the same time as it would for someone else. More often than not, language learning feels like moments of meteoric progress/lots of understanding/breakthroughs separated by grinding.

If there was a way to only have those meteoric progress/breakthrough moments, everyone would be fluent by now, but the grind seems unavoidable because that thing that causes your "breakthrough" next month might be something you can't understand at all right now. You've gotta build up that vocab/grammar base so that you're ready for the next opportunity. 1 month worth of "grind" pays dividends, as even at just 300 new words learned (about 10 a day) you could have learned all the specialized vocabulary in that mecha Anime you want to watch. After that, you never have to worry about it again and will be ready for the next show (and will have less new stuff to learn at the same time).

Though there's no sound argument against learning how to read, and learning words so that you're ready to process them in the wild, implying that there is an "optimal" way is foolish. If you're gonna have to learn them all anyway, it makes more sense to just learn as much as you are comfortable to be ready to seize such opportunities.

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>>19526817
The point of your first playthrough of Pokemon is to expose yourself to new words/grammar/etc and find the handful of things you CAN completely understand, or barely don't understand.

Mine it. Jot down 20 words from it every day, and drill those words. Stop playing as soon as you get 20, but don't just take down any random words. Only ones you encounter more than once. Stop playing as soon as you get those 20. Repeat. You can play longer as you go on because you'll encounter less of those words.

From there, after it starts taking an unreasonable amount of time to get those 20, start taking down other words you don't know or that catch your eye. Same thing applies here. Just mine it.

Guaranteed 100% that your 2nd playthrough down the road will be far better because you'll know all the words/grammar. Guaranteed that your next pokemon after this will be more enjoyable because you'll know a lot of words to go in with, and have a lot of fresh ones to learn.

The Japanese way, much like the Pokemon one, is long and precipitous. But it gets better, if you're willing to train hard every single day.

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>>19504091
Beginners need to play Pokemon.

In fact, this could be the secret to learning just about any language.

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Is there some kind of hard and fast rule for when to NOT て form adjectives when connecting them? Examples:

>長く険しい vs 長くて険しい, where I've seen the former used in the wild. The latter only has 8000~ google search results where the former has 200k+
>長く厳しい vs 長くて厳しい where there is still an imbalance of search results/usage but not as drastic (140k vs 70k)
>長くて寒い vs 長く寒い where the first is often followed by 冬 but still, the google results speak for themselves: 97k for the former, 17k for the latter

Is there a substantial difference between these two besides the fact that the て form allows you to begin an entirely new clause if you so choose? I get that the differences between these essentially boil down to "long, steep" vs "long and steep" and so forth, but am I meant to read that as "lengthily steep" because 長い is く'd?

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