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>>21989901
That reminds me: was "Saber was actually a shit king" a thing before Zero?
Like the whole spiel about Artoria in the Fate route was that she had been a well-meaning, responsible ruler, who blamed herself for the fall of her kingdom, and wished to undo her reign.. There was zero implication that she was terrible in general at her role, aside from that one mention of Tristan being a faggot.
Yet, what I see for the most part is that even the fandom treats her being a shit king as gospel, and not just the secondaries, but even VN readers who disliked Zero.