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Seeing the amount of "NO JUST NO", "RYUKISHI WHY ARE YOU SUCH A SHITTY WRITER", and "UMINEKO WAS A TRAINWRECK THROUGH AND THROUGH" recently concerning Umineko, here is a question for /jp/:

How would YOU rewrite Umineko? You are now head of 07th Expansion, and Ryukishi is in fact your cat. Let the ideas flow. You could rework the entire series to fit smoothly with the ending. You could throw out Chiru altogether. Big or small changes, they're all valid.

To start things off with the more obvious ones:

Format: Suggested edit (Why Ryukishi is not glorious and had to be edited)

-DID meido is not literal. Beatrice is at the most be Shannon's escapist fantasy self (Everybody hates DID. Umineko could work just as well without it. Yasu was doing pretty well with the imaginary friends. Removed) .
-Toya never comes to be. Ikuko finds a traumatized, near-dead Battler who suppresses his guilty memories surrounding Rokkenjima (same with DID, bad in general. Toya remembers an awful lot about everything before the murders for being supposedly amnesiac. It's not unbelievable for someone to suppress guilty/traumatic memories, unlike "total" amnesia)
-Add the item "Yasu's diary" (ep. 1-4 are partially about Battler discovering Beatrice/Yasu/Shannon's true self/heart. Ange comes to understand Maria through her diary. Battler could do likewise)

>>6382250
>mfw you learn that is not the case

I would rate it a 9/10. Pretty much beat EP3 by a mile for me. Everything was just so perfect. From the time battler and GARsmith teamed up to the end of the ???? teaparty. The only little complaint i had was that it seemed to drag on just a bit at certain parts of natsuhi's trial. Either than that, everything was perfect. Oh yea, I can't even describe how Bern was that episode. God Tier Troll is not enough to describe her. I was raging so hard I that I went full circle and became calm during natsuhi's trial. By the way, does anyone have the shoop of battler and kinzo wearing the gurren lagann glasses?

Okay so I'm back and just finished Episode 4.... Wow, that was awesome. But I'm still left with some questions.

DID Battler actually escape the game and get to go back home? I know Bern and Lambda said Beato can't win buuut...

Also... about what Ange saw in the darkness at the Captain's place that made her shit a brick. Why do people think that it was Sakutaro? I mean, I don't have a theory of my own but what's the reasoning behind that? Also, does anyone have that picture of Ange hugging Battler and Battler looking at the blood on his hands? It's from a side perspective.

All in all, that was fuckin' great in my opinion. As long as you make it through the boring stuff, the awesome is super awesome. Thanks jp.

Also... try not to trip anymore loser flags, will ya?

So I heard that Beatrice isn't really a troll. I don't understand how people still believe her after episode 3. Whatever happened to the epic sexual tension/Hate/Rivalry that battler has with Beatrice? Does that stay or is it replaced with ultra sappy lines?

Umineko can also be viewed as a metaphor for the conflict between Religion/Superstition and Atheism/Rationalism. In the first episode we see the main character deny the existence of an illogical witch and he does so by appealing to logic and common sense. Second episode has the "chess board turned" (A popular term in the series) where the existence of a witch is made clear and cut with the witch engaging in a mental/intellectual battle to drive the main character of the story into accepting her existence and completing the ritual. In this case all logic points to there being a supernatural force that can't be rationalized or understood in human terms but the main character assumes the stout stubbornness often found in religious fanatics. Because I'm still in the middle of the second episode I'm not sure whether the witch exists or this internal conflict is something not to be taken literally but this high lights the pit falls of being too inflexible and myopic on both sides. The hilarious part is that both sides are pointing to the other and accusing them of being lazy intellectually.

discuss.