/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>46447768
>>/jp/thread/45031052#p45034063

Hagchads, Ensemble!

>>45916107
without knowing more about your taste in actresses themselves, here are some series instead , just take your pick from the entries - trailers are worth watching to get a better sense of what's happening. most of them are a more slow-burn experience than maybe what you're expecting from pornography

>romance, forbidden romance
>身も心も相性抜群の2人-。‘想い’と‘唇’が重なる濃密接吻ソープ
Series: Two people with great chemistry in body and soul. An intense kissing soapland where 'feelings' and 'lips' overlap
https://r18.dev/videos/vod/movies/list/?id=4336680&type=series
-- an unusual take on the soapland/sex worker genre with a lovey-dovey romantic angle and an inexperienced customer as the two parties involved slowly fall for each other

>息子の友人ともう5年間、セフレ関係を続けています─。
Series:
https://r18.dev/videos/vod/movies/list/?id=4304515&type=series
-- a son's friend/friend's mother situation with the added nuance of the fuckbuddy relationship already being a long-term arrangement and the sort of intimacy and tender more-than-purely-physical feeling that would entail

>卒業式の後に…大人になった君へ義母からの贈り物―。
Series:
https://r18.dev/videos/vod/movies/list/?id=4007388&type=series
-- a stepmother offers her body as a graduation present but what starts off as a one-off thing becomes more long term

>母と僕の妊活中出し性交
Series:
https://r18.dev/videos/vod/movies/list/?id=4425365&type=series
-- mother and son (who have long had inexplicable feelings for each other) discover they aren't actually related

>>45917061
the above may be of interest to you. as you'd expect, a lot of the dramatic tension comes from taboo

>>45864543
Simple and refined.

>>45627843
does it have to be "real" mother?

A BRIEF STUDY OF EROTICISM, TABOO, AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VERNACULAR “HAG ENSEMBLE”

INTRODUCTION
The remit of Japanese Adult Video (hereinafter referred to simply as “JAV”) is no stranger to paraphilia relating to certain clothing as a sexualised focal point. In some cases, this is entirely self-evident, ranging from revealing lingerie and the conspicuous display of bare skin to form-fitting latex catsuits accentuating every curve of a woman’s body. However, explaining the purported eroticism of otherwise more mundane (and certainly less revealing or at least less commonly sexualised) garments requires closer study. In particular, the style of clothing sometimes humorously referred to as the “Hag Ensemble” by some international enthusiasts of pornography depicting mature Japanese women has gained notoriety in recent years. Falling under the umbrella term of “mama suits” (ママスーツ) or “school graduation/entrance ceremony style suits” (卒業式/入学式スーツ) in their native country of Japan, any erotic appeal of such a conservative outfit may not be immediately obvious. It is the aim of this paper to assess and articulate this appeal to a wider audience but in order to accomplish this, the underlying concepts of eroticism and taboo must also be subject to further scrutiny and discussion.

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for the rest, you'll need to get it (in a more readable format) here:
https://files.catbox.moe/gp2zdq.pdf

>>45028713
as promised, sir kek
word of warning: it turned into a 2000+ word semi-serious hagchad quasi-shitpost of an essay

>>45028738
if only it were that simple, my friend...

>>44994916
not that sir but i just interpreted it as a double pun/reference to both "Avengers, Assemble" (by using another "-emble" word) and the HAG ENSEMBLE outfit i.e. the school entrance/graduation ceremony mama suit outfit as they're colloquially known

>>44780741
for me, it would be seeing her wearing the full HAG ENSEMBLE

>>44453774
based. can't wait to see her don the HAG ENSEMBLE

>>44329301
absolutely based, thanks for sharing this valuable knowledge

>>44329336
i fkn love this shit
it's technically western-style clothing but i have never seen a westerner dress like this anymore

>>44329341
turns out Fashion is part of the Lifestyle too. JAV is truly multidisciplinary

>>44298762
Please allow me to explain the Hag Ripeness Classification System© (patents pending) to the best of my ability. First, consider how everyone from mid-to-late 20-year-olds in young stepmother roles to actual septuagenarians all indiscriminately get the "mature woman" tag. Also note that stage ages are fabricated in the first place and cannot be relied upon as a reliable measure of an actress' actual age. This is why, despite being a subjective concept, ripeness has prevailed as the metric of choice when assessing older women.

That said, the Hag Ripeness Classification System© (patents pending) is not intended for grouping and categorising for its own sake, but to better facilitate more appropriate discussions as well as more bespoke recommendations. The Japanese language, culture and, in turn, the JAV industry gave us a single umbrella term: 熟女 (jukujō; lit. "mature/ripe woman"). The hagchads' contention is that this is far too vague and imprecise a marker. The incredibly wide spectrum of varying degrees of ripeness accordingly necessitates a far more granular and nuanced view and is exactly what the system offers when discussing the genre and its constituent parts. It is an innovation that is both genuinely useful and tongue-in-cheek in equal measure. It was not meant to be (exclusively) an exercise in autism — it is an actionable reference point and guide to navigating and assessing ripeness for all curious sirs

Even so, it is not absolute and dogmatic. Opinions will differ which results in thought-provoking discussion and even deeper study of hags' identifying characteristics. For me, this is how I interpret the categories:

>Faux-Hag
technically not a bona fide mature woman and usually in alleged mid-20s but often thrust into motherly, nurturing roles already. considered mature when compared to others in peer group which allows for their casting. comparable to the big sister type, but with a more mature, sophisticated feeling. in other cases, it might simply be that the given context and/or presentation in a scenario has defined them as such for whatever reason. newlywed housewives, young stepmothers, teachers, younger aunts, sisters-in-law, etc typically constitute the limit of how mature a character they can play; a greater degree of suspension of disbelief sometimes required to accept the presented role.
- eg Nao Jinguji, Rio Kuriyama, Sumire Kuramoto :^), etc

>Quasi-Hag
typically in the allegedly early 30s (occasionally late 20s) range and, while still youthful in appearance, does not look out of place fulfilling more mature roles given the convincing hag energy even at this stage. earlier standards of giving the impression of being more mature than those of a similar age can still be relevant here as many actresses can reach their alleged late 20s/early 30s without giving the impression of a Quasi-Hag
- eg Yuu Shinoda, Kana Morisawa, etc

>Pseudo-Hag
secretly on the older side but does not exude much hag energy. looks may or may not belie actual age. not usually associated with mature roles even if age is an open secret. in some cases, may also be a result of habitual (over)compensatory youthful behaviour to deliberately further distance themselves from any sense of discernible maturity. another hag scholar and a dear colleague eloquently describes a Pseudo-Hag as being "...at the age of hagdom, but lacks the hag 'anima' that energises the overall hag characteristic". uncommon
- eg Julia, Iroha Natsume, Saki Okuda, etc

>Semi
the ripening process is undeniably underway and certainly discernible but not nearly to the extent where ripeness is the most obvious or immediately distinguishing feature. typically in their allegedly late 30s to early or maybe even mid 40s. excel in mature roles with relative ease
- eg Kana Mito, Ryo Ayumi, Ririko Kinoshita, Marina Shiraishi, etc

>Classic
a very representative and unambiguously older woman but at the same time still unambiguously beautiful; an idealised version/interpretation of the mature woman archetype
- eg Maki Hojo, Mariko Sata, Yuka Oshima, etc

>True
the ripening process has now led to more obviously waning looks but this does not necessarily mean ugly. a less idealised and more realistic representation of the older woman archetype, and especially applicable to real life/amateurs. typically begins around the allegedly 50 mark, where not even East Asian genes, a careful diet, rigorous exercise regimen, flattering make-up, perfect lighting, and clever editing can stave off all discernible effects of the menopause. many tend to be amateurs but some have made their name in this category, or simply stick around long enough to graduate from the preceding ripeness tiers
- eg Honoka Nakayama, Rie Takeuchi, Maiko Kashiwagi, etc

>Ultimate
the absolute limit of human possibility in more ways than one. this is both zenith and nadir: the final phase before departure. it literally can't get any riper than this
- eg Link's grandma

Please allow me to explain the Hag Ripeness Classification System™ (patents pending) to the best of my ability. First, consider how everyone from mid-to-late 20-year-olds in young stepmother roles to actual septuagenarians all indiscriminately get the "mature woman" tag. Also note that stage ages are fabricated in the first place and cannot be relied upon as a reliable measure of an actress' actual age. This is why, despite being a subjective concept, ripeness has prevailed as the metric of choice when assessing older women.

That said, the Hag Ripeness Classification System™ (patents pending) is not intended for grouping and categorising for its own sake, but to better facilitate more appropriate discussions as well as more bespoke recommendations. The Japanese language, culture and, in turn, the JAV industry gave us a single umbrella term: 熟女 (jukujō; lit. "mature/ripe woman"). The hagchads' contention is that this is far too vague and imprecise a marker. The incredibly wide spectrum of varying degrees of ripeness accordingly necessitates a far more granular and nuanced view and is exactly what the system offers when discussing the genre and its constituent parts. It is an innovation that is both genuinely useful and tongue-in-cheek in equal measure. It was not meant to be (exclusively) an exercise in autism — it is an actionable reference point and guide to navigating and assessing ripeness for all curious sirs

Even so, it is not absolute and dogmatic. Opinions will differ which results in thought-provoking discussion and even deeper study of hags' identifying characteristics. For me, this is how I interpret the categories:

>Faux-Hag
technically not a bona fide mature woman and usually in alleged mid-20s but often thrust into motherly, nurturing roles already. considered mature when compared to others in peer group which allows for their casting. comparable to the big sister type, but with a more mature, sophisticated feeling. in other cases, it might simply be that the given context and/or presentation in a scenario has defined them as such for whatever reason. newlywed housewives, young stepmothers, teachers, younger aunts, sisters-in-law, etc typically constitute the limit of how mature a character they can play; a greater degree of suspension of disbelief sometimes required to accept the presented role.
- eg Nao Jinguji, Rio Kuriyama, Sumire Kuramoto :-), etc

>Quasi-Hag
typically in the allegedly early 30s (occasionally late 20s) range and, while still youthful in appearance, does not look out of place fulfilling more mature roles given the convincing hag energy even at this stage. earlier standards of giving the impression of being more mature than those of a similar age can still be relevant here as many actresses can reach their alleged late 20s/early 30s without giving the impression of a Quasi-Hag
- eg Yuu Shinoda, Kana Morisawa, etc

>Pseudo-Hag
secretly on the older side but does not exude much hag energy. looks may or may not belie actual age. not usually associated with mature roles even if age is an open secret. in some cases, may also be a result of habitual (over)compensatory youthful behaviour to deliberately further distance themselves from any sense of discernible maturity. another hag scholar and a dear colleague eloquently describes a Pseudo-Hag as being "...at the age of hagdom, but lacks the hag 'anima' that energises the overall hag characteristic". uncommon
- eg Julia, Iroha Natsume, Saki Okuda, etc

>Semi
the ripening process is undeniably underway and certainly discernible but not nearly to the extent where ripeness is the most obvious or immediately distinguishing feature. typically in their allegedly late 30s to early or maybe even mid 40s. excel in mature roles with relative ease
- eg Kana Mito, Ryo Ayumi, Ririko Kinoshita, Marina Shiraishi, etc

>Classic
a very representative and unambiguously older woman but at the same time still unambiguously beautiful; an idealised version/interpretation of the mature woman archetype
- eg Maki Hojo, Mariko Sata, Yuka Oshima, etc

>True
the ripening process has now led to more obviously waning looks but this does not necessarily mean ugly. a less idealised and more realistic representation of the older woman archetype, and especially applicable to real life/amateurs. typically begins around the allegedly 50 mark, where not even East Asian genes, a careful diet, rigorous exercise regimen, flattering make-up, perfect lighting, and clever editing can stave off all discernible effects of the menopause. many tend to be amateurs but some have made their name in this category, or simply stick around long enough to graduate from the preceding ripeness tiers
- eg Honoka Nakayama, Rie Takeuchi, Maiko Kashiwagi, etc

>Ultimate
the absolute limit of human possibility in more ways than one. this is both zenith and nadir: the final phase before departure. it literally can't get any riper than this
- eg Link's grandma

>>44016506
All hag JAV is full of subtlety waiting for astute and observant hagchads to discover.
Takara Visual (SPRD, ALDN, a bunch of other sub-labels etc) are really great at it though and package it in a sorta daytime television domestic melodrama sheen that I find quite charming kek
The biggest and most mainstream Madonna (along with sublabels like Monroe) are no slouches either and they go for a more stylised glamorous faux art house cinema vibe with lots of potential for subtlety and nuance.
Venus are somewhere in between but are more open to more novel and/or contrived plot setups without getting too heavy on the drama
Then there's Ruby who offer a more realistic presentation but their incest hot spring road trip series is very comfy kino (BKD-)

But really, the subtlety is coming from the hags themselves, with each studio offering a different lens through which the nuances are expressed and presented.

>>44016522
This is true. Our detractors will say it's soft power projection and social engineering but we really do try our best to treat sirs with kindness

>>44017096
NTA but the problem is, tags in JAV are really shit so plenty of time stop titles don't actually get that tag. Same thing with the soapland tag and many others.

>>43731427
it appears you have forgotten to affix some CONTEXT to your image, sir!
allow me to contribute some thoughts, ideas, opinions, and maybe even some sentiments about the image you have posted:

for me, elegant hags and pearls are a match made in heaven
the fact that Madonna's graduation series realises this and keeps all the fancy pearl jewellery on during the first sexo scene is an absolute masterstroke in costume design

>>43725606
>>43725624
how familiar are you with Japanese Adult Video? what are your tastes? what are your thoughts on beautiful Japanese mature women?
discussion usually slows down after bump limit but maybe you'll stick around
it's a comfy place, we are happy to have you

>>43648729
Please allow me to explain the Hag Ripeness Classification System™ (patents pending) to the best of my ability. First, consider how everyone from mid-to-late 20-year-olds in young stepmother roles to actual septuagenarians all indiscriminately get the "mature woman" tag. Also note that stage ages are fabricated in the first place and cannot be relied upon as a reliable measure of an actress' actual age. This is why, despite being a subjective concept, ripeness has prevailed as the metric of choice when assessing older women.

That said, the Hag Ripeness Classification System™ (patents pending) is not intended for grouping and categorising for its own sake, but to better facilitate more appropriate discussions as well as more bespoke recommendations. The Japanese language, culture and, in turn, the JAV industry gave us a single umbrella term: 熟女 (jukujō; lit. "mature woman"). The hagchads' contention is that this is far too vague and imprecise a marker. The incredibly wide spectrum of varying degrees of ripeness accordingly necessitates a far more granular and nuanced view and is exactly what the system offers when discussing the genre and its constituent parts. It is an innovation that is both genuinely useful and tongue-in-cheek in equal measure. It was not meant to be (exclusively) an exercise in autism — it is an actionable reference point and guide to navigating and assessing ripeness for all curious sirs

Even so, it is not absolute and dogmatic. Opinions will differ which results in thought-provoking discussion and even deeper study of hags' identifying characteristics. For me, this is how I interpret the categories:

>Faux-Hag
technically not a bona fide mature woman and usually in alleged mid-20s but often thrust into motherly, nurturing roles already. considered mature when compared to others in peer group which allows for their casting. comparable to the big sister type, but with a more mature, sophisticated feeling. in other cases, it might simply be that the given context and/or presentation in a scenario has defined them as such for whatever reason. newlywed housewives, young stepmothers, teachers, younger aunts, sisters-in-law, etc typically constitute the limit of how mature a character they can play; a greater degree of suspension of disbelief sometimes required to accept the presented role.
- eg Nao Jinguji, Mina Kitano, Sumire Kuramoto, Rio Kuriyama, etc

>Quasi-Hag
typically in the allegedly early 30s (occasionally late 20s) range and, while still youthful in appearance, does not look out of place fulfilling more mature roles given the convincing hag energy even at this stage. earlier standards of giving the impression of being more mature than those of a similar age can still be relevant here as many actresses can reach their alleged late 20s/early 30s without giving the impression of a Quasi-Hag
- eg Yuu Shinoda, Kana Morisawa, etc

>Pseudo-Hag
secretly on the older side but does not exude much hag energy. looks may or may not belie actual age. not usually associated with mature roles even if age is an open secret. in some cases, may also be a result of habitual (over)compensatory youthful behaviour to deliberately further distance themselves from any sense of discernible maturity. another hag scholar and a dear colleague eloquently describes a Pseudo-Hag as being "...at the age of hagdom, but lacks the hag 'anima' that energises the overall hag characteristic". uncommon
- eg Julia, Iroha Natsume, Saki Okuda, etc

>Semi
the ripening process is undeniably underway and certainly discernible but not nearly to the extent where ripeness is the most obvious or immediately distinguishing feature. typically in their allegedly late 30s to early or maybe even mid 40s. excel in mature roles with relative ease
- eg Kana Mito, Ryo Ayumi, Ririko Kinoshita, Marina Shiraishi, etc

>Classic
a very representative and unambiguously older woman but at the same time still unambiguously beautiful; an idealised version/interpretation of the mature woman archetype
- eg Maki Hojo, Mariko Sata, Yuka Oshima, etc

>True
the ripening process has now led to more obviously waning looks but this does not necessarily mean ugly. a less idealised and more realistic representation of the older woman archetype, and especially applicable to real life/amateurs. typically begins around the allegedly 50 mark, where not even East Asian genes, a careful diet, rigorous exercise regimen, flattering make-up, perfect lighting, and clever editing can stave off all discernible effects of the menopause. many tend to be amateurs but some have made their name in this category, or simply stick around long enough to graduate from the preceding ripeness tiers
- eg Honoka Nakayama, Rie Takeuchi, Maiko Kashiwagi, etc

>Ultimate
the absolute limit of human possibility in more ways than one. this is the pinnacle of an old woman, the final phase before departure. it literally can't get any riper than this
- eg Link's grandma

>>43541351
Each one of them brings a different flavour, but Mito-san's was rather unique.

>>43484814
Don't you mean Step-Mother?

Who is your favorite STEP-MOTHER in pic related?

>>42909209
/JAV/loremaster-sama... when can we expect your famous JAVfu Tier list?
I'm not being a push-over, if you don't feel like doing it anymore, please don't do it! I'm just curious.

>>42789458
Enjoying Hags is not an exclusive endeavour. You can like everything else too.
But different Hagbros love hags for different reasons.

>>42748911