/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>33287532
i totally know what you're talking about, there is a real sort of optimism (if that's the right word) in those types of songs that's rare to find these days.
>>33287660
good picks! hajimete no koi ga owaru toki is tied with odds & ends for my favorite ryo song.

>>33144831
That's not a likely scenario, the reason why Miku had such a head start is because until she was released no one knew how brilliant of an idea she was, so every company trying to compete would have to start making their product from scratch (and few companies had the previous experience like Crypton had due to Meiko and Kaito), so of course it took a while for them to come up with a good enough voicebank (by the time Crypton also had others as well).

By 2009 Miku was already so iconic and dominant that it didn't matter, and Miku's design was a lot more fan creation friendly, just make a twintailed girl and you're done (by that reference IA is overdesigned, how would a IA Haku and Neru would be? What about all those Pinnochio-P mikus? Even KagePro has a miku look a like and no IA).

And voice quality (in a realism sense) never really mattered, which is why the new AI singers didn't even completely dominate over their own primitive vocaloid counterparts. We already have a lot of realistic sounding singers everywhere, but not many robots singing.

>>23778224
Yes, it's kind of obvious now but making an anime-style Vocaloid was a gamble when Miku was released. Together with the timing (vocaloid 2 release and niconico promotion) would guarantee that Miku would be at least popular popular, but if she didn't have a brilliant design for derivative works, a wide range to support many instantly recognized producer tuning and a company that looked for any kind of promotional work and collab to get more visibility (from car commercials to video games and concerts) she wouldn't have such a massive distance from every other more modern vocaloids.

I'd argue that even her high-pitched robotic voice that people complain was central to that, especially for the original meme songs that made her popular as it was immediately recognizable as a computer awkwardly singing silly songs by people who wouldn't even be aware of what a vocaloid even was at the time (songs like levan polkka and nyan cat).

>>22994385
You're saying that's Miku's mom and she had Miku with someone else?
>>22994368
Now that I think about it, I was wrong and Miku design is actually brilliant. It was very detailed (all the Yamaha keyboard inspiration which will probably go unnoticed and will disappear in NT) but at the same time having very simple key traits (extremely long straight green/blue hair, twintails, tie) which allowed people to just draw any twintailed girl and it will be easily recognized as Miku. You can't do that with IA or GUMI as easily, so many songs just go full OC with the characters (even Kagerou Project has a Miku but no IA).