/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>38577183
It's really about the meta world and whether or not it exists, not magic being involved in Rokkenjima. There was no magic there even in the meta explanation of the events.

The argument is stronger in the manga where the narrative is explicitly shown to be Ange's dream, not Tohya's. Also, the fantasy explanation of the Beatrice catbox fixes the plothole of no Ange in episode 1/2 (child Ange piece doesn't exist in Rokkenjinma's catbox because it's known she's outside of the catbox at the time, just like how the entire catbox would disappear if the truth had been revealed).

The VN leaves things much more vague and opens space to argue it's actually just Tohya's story, but I think the epilogue continuing Ange's point of view, rather than Tohya's strongly suggests it's the same there.

>>38347497
Well, if you go by the manga the "real" explanation for the meta-world would be an long dream from Ange after her failed suicide attempt.

The novel leaves the nature of the story more vague, but you still have epilogue Ange referencing the meta events like she had experienced them, although I guess you have space to argue she just got really into the writing or whatever.

I really don't care for the meta being in the forgeries though, since it seems like it'd completely clash with the descriptions of the message bottles and why they gathered so much interest (being competing truths, not just some famous fantasy novel).

>>38004973
Either the meta world is real or Ange had a stupidly long and elaborate dream/delusion (and the story of this delusion somehow continued afterwards anyway...).