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I appreciate the sentiment you're going for, but the guide you posted is absolute dogshit and doesn't understand how people feel, act, think, etc at all. For instance
>learn hiragana/katakana(should take 2 hours in total, don't try to perfect it)
The majority of people will be unable to do this. They will struggle hard, fail, lose confidence in themselves, and so on. If we pretend people will take this guide seriously, you're going to lose a lot of people on this step that's the first real and fundamental one. I get that you want to emphasize getting them into your short term memory and then memorizing them over time, rather than trying to get them perfect before moving on, but that's not how people work. They'll cram, fail to remember anything, and just feel like shit in general. You need to give beginner learners at LEAST a week to learn hiragana/katakana. And this isn't a big deal, either. In a years long study journey, it makes zero difference whether it takes 2 hours or 1 week to learn kana.
>skim tae kim(should take like 4-5 hours total)
Again, I appreciate the sentiment. It is important to not obsess with perfectionism and to keep moving. But "4-5" hours total for grammar? Skimming a single grammar guide and that's it? Hell fucking no. The vast, vast, vast majority of learners will absolutely get destroyed on this step and hate everything. Going from 0 knowledge of Japanese grammar to having enough to meaningfully read something, even the babiest shit imaginable, takes time and effort. Blasting through Tae Kim and then trying to read will be like slamming your face against a brick wall, and it's not nearly the most efficient method. It's the same as kana: You have to give learners time. In a years long study journey, dedicating a week or two to Tae Kim is not a big deal, and it helps tremendously. Heck, I'm pretty sure I spent at least four hours on the fucking の page alone when I started because it was so rough adjusting to Japanese grammar. Basically, if a learner actually takes your awful advice and skims Tae Kim in so little time, they're going to slam their face into reading, fail miserably, and just go back to Tae Kim to take their time learning what they should have already taken the time to get familiar with.

Japanese learners aren't ubermensch who can go from 0 Japanese knowledge, to knowing kana in 2 hours, to having a decent grasp on Japanese grammar in 7 total hours. They need time. Starting Japanese is a period of brutal difficult due to knowing so little, and encouraging people to make things harder by speeding through the fundamentals will result in nothing but miserable learners making zero meaningful progress and giving up.

>read ~30 nhk easy news articles (or not)
>"read" furigana manga/text hookable vns until it is relatively easy like yotsubato/love hina/your favorite trash shounen/eroge etc.
>read a light novel series that is completely adapted into an anim completely e you have seen ie toradora/oreimo/oregairu etc.

These are all just arbitrary, I imagine this is what you did but there's really no way any of these are particularly constructive in a guide. Basically, the only thing that matters is...

>now read whatever you want

People reading what they want. Introduce the tools to read various things (rikai, texthookers, dictionaries, etc) and then let people read what they want. 30 NHK easy news articles? Are you trying to bore them to death? A light novel series with an anime adaptation you've seen? What if they don't want to? Etc. Ultimately, there's no point trying to recommend specific media like this. The best thing for motivation is to read what you want to, full stop, nothing else matters.

>keep reading and watching raws until fluent
Literally the only good thing in your guide.

TL;DR Your guide is complete shit and will not help literally a single person learn Japanese. If anyone takes this guide seriously and follows your advice, they will fail with almost guaranteed certainty. I can only pray that your insane and stupid speed requirements scare off any legitimate beginners before they fuck themselves over.

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