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That funny moment when people talk about optimism in a Seacats thread.

While the story got quite an esoteric happy ending, especially for Ange (borderline Downer ending, but still in the bittersweet line because of said positivism).

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You should be careful with some of your phrases too, anon. There are some juicy details uncovered in this post.

My personal input is in the middle of all this discussion (gonna number my shit too):

1- Like the other anon implied, they are all main characters very important to the story, they were just not really that much developed compared to the other, and this is also why you didn't care that much about them (side characters being people like the family of Kumasawa or Nanjo that only appeared once or twice during the whole story, for investigative purposes).

I personally loved Hideyoshi's cool uncle character, and his extraordinary quotes and moments during episode 3 (both regarding Eva).

Not too much into Gohda other for the memes tho -and Nanjo did have some essential backstory compared to these two imo-

2-Like you well said, Umineko can be many genres, but it's undeniable the main one is Mystery, and so, the literary analysis should count around that mostly.

3- Saying what you said kinda implies the story is pointless for anyone in the world that wasn't there with the characters (both meta-wise and not), and, while this was a very clever plot point in EP8, I don't think it should be paired with the relevance of each character in the story and their overall development as a whole.

4- I think just like you about Ryukishi spending time in something extra during the time before the comiket, but at the same time, I see no problem on him doing some little stories for his fans sake.
Actually, I found that to be really nice. Since the stories are quite short, besides being well-thought, I think he also don't think of them as waste of energy, and more likely as "funny shorties" or something.

Okonogi is a special side character, so, I'm sure he will be given more attention in no time.

Btw, Erika is one of the said 4 protagonists/detectives by Ryukishi himself , in Umineko, so I really wouldn't said that she is a side one, besides appearing in less than half of the episodes.

And talking about that, Willard is listed as a main character by Ryukishi just because of him being a detective for Episode 7, so, I guess this whole MC-SC in Umineko really depends, and that we "shouldn't think too much about, it will only get us a headache", just like Natsuhi's.

Yeah, that's about it imo.