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>>40379269
She actually claims she studied for centuries or something, which makes little sense.

>>38679562
That's kind of what Gou/Sotsu was going for, they just failed at it because they completely failed at showing Satoko's trauma, just briefly mentioning that she totally was traumatized by loops too at some point in the final episode.

Satoko and Rika are incompatible and would clash eventually. Ryukishi has talked in interviews about how they had this arrogance of supposedly knowing each other perfectly and yet were actually completely blind about each other.

>I was conscious of the “arrogance” of their belief that their feelings would completely get across to each other. Unlike the village she was trapped in for 100 years, Rika is experiencing a novel, European-style charm in St. Lucia.

>And she is convinced that Satoko, who has also spent her entire life in Hinamizawa, is just as charmed by the newness of it all. That's because she also believed in her “arrogance” about understanding Satoko more than anyone else in the world.

>For her part, Satoko thinks that for Rika, the life they spent together in Hinamizawa was the pinnacle of their existence, and she is convinced that Rika's fascination with St. Lucia is nothing more than a phase. That's because she also believed in her “arrogance” about understanding Rika more than anyone else in the world.

>Spending her days at St. Lucia, Rika one-sidedly believed that Satoko would also enjoy its vibe. And Satoko one-sidedly believed that Rika, who should have “realized” that Satoko could not get used to the academy at all, has abandoned her and won't come to help her.

>Because they have blindly accepted that they are special to one another, they have come to hate each other more than anyone. This decidedly unhealthy relationship causes a certain kind of tragedy, and I've been trying to portray it in the Higurashi style of tragicomedy.

In the end, the Loops are the one thing that actually allows them to understand each other in a way no one else can.

>>37623513
>Sounds more like you vaguely trying to justify her not caring about what she just saw.
If she got glowing red eyes by "not caring" she wouldn't have shown them only after centuries of looping. They're clearly meant to have some kind of meaning.

>Remember that Satoko was already willing to murder her best friend the first time she looped.
True, this is the one point that's really odd and clashes even with R07's own explanation regarding Eua being guilty. It's also odd because Satoko doesn't go on to kill Rika in later loops until she starts her "plan".

I kind of feel like it was supposed to be the start of Satoko's game (especially with Ryukishi talking about how it meant something like "I'm taking her with me"), but the placement doesn't line up with that, and R07 didn't comment on Passione changing the placement of the scene either.

>She seemed perfectly content to me, nobody was forcing her to do so, nothing says she couldn't take breaks or anything.
We see nothing from her after it starts and before it ends, only Eua's warning that it'd take 100 years. Yes, obviously the anime did a very bad job in making people care about that scene, which is my point. Conceptually that could be portrayed as hell itself, even if Satoko got in there willingly, but the anime's disregard for the loops killed any chance of portraying that in a dramatic way.

>She accepted it pretty well right afterwards when Rika did just that in the train scene, so it wasn't as traumatizing as you're claiming it to be.
You misunderstand, what seemingly traumatized Satoko in a way comparable to Rika's Hinamizawa trauma was St.Lucia itself. Although obviously, like everything else loop related, the anime did a very bad job on selling it. To be fair, this part does seem like something very hard to sell overall. I really have no idea how Tomato can make Satoko's next St.Lucia attempts even worse or traumatizing than the first one. This part of R07's concept might prove to be just unworkable.

>This is the same Satoko that caused the suffering and deaths of her friends multiple times, yes? Hypocrisy isn't doing her any favours. Sotsugou loops are the things I'm talking about anyways.
In Mei, Satoko's talks about her and Rika being the same and Rika having no right to judge her. Yes, it's kind hypocritical since it's comparing Rika's passivity with her actively causing tragedies, but it at least brings up Satoko's sins to the conversation rather than ignoring them like the anime did.