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>>12417500
>Reality is objective, it is simply that we can't realise the objectivity fully.
That's just an outdated positivistic belief, if you ask me. Reality is the conceptual construct given by rationality's (doomed) pretension of objectivity, understood as the univocal representation of the world provided by a bijective function of interpretation between language and ostensible things; this has been proven impossible because of the essentially equivocal structure of language and in the light of rationality's final product and culmination: the previously inadmissible oxymoron of "virtual reality".

In other words, there's only "reality" as far as we accept some set of axioms for reason to start working from, but which are mere conventional interpretations of signs including perception itself (Peirce's model is great to understand signical levels). All this really is a very technical and hard to swallow idea, but Urobuchi somehow managed to hint it narratively and poetically in SnU; one of my favorites lines is when he compares truth with oxygen: only endurable as long as it is covered with the appropriate amount of lies and alien gases respectively, hinting that meaning and judgement can only spring from a particular and always biased heritage and interpretation.

In short, I'd say the point of the story is not if one is capable of loving a monster but to realize that perceiving something as monstrous is merely contextual. As Fuminori, one must indeed change in order to follow Saya and find fulfillment with her, casting away human qualities that go far beyond the mere fondness for Saya's humanoid appearance. Urobuchi gives us the possibility to ponder all this and make a few honest choices in the game, allowing us to learn more of ourselves through the experience. It's really a great VN, however I see it.

>you've already scraped from it
You really need to find a better argument than keep calling people deluded, man. SnU should at least have taught you that.

>>12417500
>Reality is objective, it is simply that we can't realise the objectivity fully
That's just an outdated positivistic belief, if you ask me. Reality is the conceptual construct given by rationality's (doomed) pretension of objectivity, understood as the univocal representation of the world provided by a binary function of interpretation between language and ostensible things, which has been proven impossible because of the essentially equivocal structure of language and in the light of rationality's final product and culmination: the previously inadmissible oxymoron of "virtual reality".

In other words, there's only "reality" as far as we accept some set of axioms for reason to start working from, but which are mere conventional interpretations of signs including perception itself (Peirce's model is great to understand signical levels). All this really is a very technical and hard to swallow idea, but Urobuchi somehow managed to hint it narratively and poetically in SnU; one of my favorites lines is when he compares truth with oxygen: only endurable as long as it is covered with the appropriate amount of lies and alien gases respectively, hinting that meaning and judgement can only spring from a particular and always biased heritage and interpretation.

In short, I'd say the point of the story is not if one is capable of loving a monster but to realize that perceiving something as monstrous is merely contextual. As Fuminori, one must indeed change in order to follow Saya and find fulfillment with her, casting away human qualities that go far beyond the mere fondness for Saya's humanoid appearance. Urobuchi gives us the possibility to ponder all this and make a few honest choices in the game, allowing us to learn more of ourselves through the experience. It's really a great VN, however I see it.

>you've already scraped from it
You really need to find a better argument than keep calling people deluded, man. SnU should at least have taught you that.