/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>20912869
I mean, I fully agree with you, but the thing is that the prologue exists within the context of an entire genre. Previous fans of Makura and many eroge fans who enjoy a slower-paced, SoL-focused titles could find a lot of enjoyment and catch all the eroge and otaku culture references within the prologue and Subahibi as a whole.

What reference do westerners have of the moege genre? Truth be told, pretty much nothing. They haven't even played or grown up with titles fundamental to the overarching SoL genre. None of them have touched works like To Heart, Doukyuusei, Tokimemo or Sakura Taisen. Yes, I know, the tatter two are not really VNs, but otaku culture doesn't exist in isolation. These were two games that had an enormous impact on the idea of bishojo games and people who grew up with them actually enjoyed the lengthy SoL, character-focused segments. There existed an entire culture that not only justified but were Sca-ji's basis for the SoL segments. Of course not as if that overwrites the philosophy behind those segments but the point is that the west is completely lacking of the references and the context subahibi was created upon.

I mean you can go ahead and check EGS and you'll see one of the most voted subahibi tags is 一般人に勧めない. Subahibi is a really particular title and if the japanese eroge players who are a lot more open-minded and tolerant of controversial content (although as we all know they are incredibly specific as to what they dislike) realize it could put off a lot of people, then it's clear the west would very quickly be put off. Imagine then if the typical costumer looking to buy Subahibi is a steam user. Subahibi has parts that appeal either to "moege" or the "plotge" (these terms are stupid but at this point they do describe distinct audiences in the west) fans. Japanese fans were able to enjoy it because of all the context behind the eroge industry which was still going strong back in 2011 and had countless users who played them throughout the 2000s, perhaps a few from the 90s.

Subahibi was released at the wrong time, to the wrong audience. It's not impressive at all it flopped. And with more and more titles and companies flopping and going bankrupt, the more we have the image that the west is an unsustainable market that isn't worth investing, which is only partially true, since the companies involved in localization were extremely irresponsible, picked unattractive titles, and terribly mistreated both their audience and the "JOPs" who would quickly expose to a lot of people how badly some VNs were translated. And the titles with good translations had disproportionate controversies, like DI, or simply didn't click with the west, like Subahibi and Himawari (which also makes sense to not have blown up to be honest).

>>>/int/ guys, we got it for a reason.

I am floored.

>>3605340

>>2981612
>>2981628

>2978059
>>some little kid is carrying around a fucking sword that's bigger than him and saves the world with his big titted slut who follows him around and spews off stupid one liners.

Fate/stay night?!

YO DAWG I HEARD YOU LIKE KAZOKU KEIKAKU SO I PUT KAZOKU KEIKAKU IN YOUR KAZOKU KEIKAKU SO YOU CAN PLAN YOUR FAMILY YOU PLAN YOUR FAMILY