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>>32198977
>Polove

Polove is a scholarly bright green mamono realm nation anon. It's very different from Lescatie (and Lescatie itself is a lot more than a red light district).

>>23681920
Hey now, Saphirette is a great lady pre and post-monsterization.

>>23513073
Saphirette is going to school you.

>>20979310
The "Order" is not any single nation or people, but an organization/religion that many different nations pledge their loyalty to (to one degree or another). Its likely they have a number of different currencies.

Also, the one bit of calender info we have may not apply to the Order. It is the abbreviation "ME" which likely stands for "Mamono Era." Presumably its a system that started when Lilith came to power. Thus the dating system would consist of the years before that (the age of the former mamono lords) and the years after (the age of monster girls), of which about a thousand years have passed (the age of the former mamono lords likely consisted of several thousand years).

>>20663353
>every female is broken in some way

Saphirette argues against that assertion. She barely changed at all since she was quite well adjusted as a human. The Fallen Maidens in contrast were pretty extreme examples, women who were miserable and quite unbalanced to begin with getting monsterized by monster extremists. Saphirette is likely more the norm.

>>20548681
Here, some more info so you can talk about her past with her. She'll appreciate you being informed.

>>20269524
>especially the forced corruption bit.

It helps to realize it is far from standard "corruption." KC only even uses the word for the sake of appealing to the fetish, for him the point of appeal is meant to be the transformation in appearance and attitude. On average its quite tame (Fallen Maidens is as bad as it gets, and even that was lightened up substantially in subsequent material about Lescatie like the gaiden book).

Saphirette and that succubus who started a prisoner fruit store chain are more typical examples of how "corruption" is used in the setting. They're still the same person, just with more lust and the knowledge from experience that becoming a monster or incubus has a lot more advantages than disadvantages.

>>19731060
On that note, between Saphirette and the various baphomet leaders I feel like KC has improved a lot in making likable characters for his setting.

>>19712057
Polove is a nation anon, albeit a formerly impoverished one, a lot more than just a village.

Oh, for a really big example, the city surrounding the Mamono Lord's castle is quite a place to live, what with the huge museum, fighting tournaments in a big arena, tons of shops, hotels, etc.

Oh, and world guide 2 describes Ryugujos as quite big places, including residential districts. They're entertainment cities but there are a lot of people who live and work there.

>>19051056
I prefer more the transformation with minimal if any actual "corruption." Like our dear Saphirette, who seems to have not really changed much at all as a dark matter except for her heightened libido. I think its fair to say such transformations are the norm in the MGE provided the woman is comfortable with who she is, not repressed, etc.

>>18038757
See above, physical changes don't have to do with repression.

That said, repression does effect how strongly the personality changes. This goes for elves as well, as its noted they are more lustful the more repressed they originally were.

If a human isn't repressed then they seem to usually monsterize into a monster that behaves similarly to how they did as a human, just with a stronger libido plus some instincts or behaviors relevant to the monster type they became. Saphirette from World Guide 2 is a good example of this.

>>18021651
True, but that part of the message (discussed in a separate section of the book and never mentioning Wilmarina) was lost a bit since in the actual Wilmarina profile she appears to become a 2 dimensional person who doesn't care a bit about anyone in the world except for her lover.

Of course other material indicates this is hyperbole, but KC uses it so much that we almost need some kind of explanation offered at the start of any given book, stating things like "nothing but sex pretty much never actually means nothing but sex" and such.

Hence why I like Saphirette more, as she is more clearly a 3 dimensional character compared to most of the fallen maidens after their transformations (Merse being one of the exceptions).

>>17069246
>She's the anti Durella.

Not sure what you mean by that. After all she still is a strong advocate for monsterization and turning human realms into monster realms. She's just a less fanatical in her methods (though even Druella's claim to fame of conquering Lescatie was done on her mother's orders and was a emergency response, not normal behavior form her).

One other difference is that her land is a bright green monster realm, but even then she speaks very fondly of dark realms as well.

>>16403771
Fine argument there, here's mine, Saphirette fused with a literal incarnation of lust and yet seems to be pretty much the same person she was before, just more lustful.

Basically if you're not a sexually and emotionally repressed person like the Fallen Maidens you aren't going to get changed to any extreme (unless you choose to, hence why demons and such have to convince women they transform to become radicals or they just become normal succubi).

>>16055464
>and creating places, and stories and characters, when none of it works, period.

"None" of it works? Saphirette says hello, her story and character is pretty well loved as far as I am aware.

>>16026258
Then say that (or that it looks ominous), calling dark monster realms a wasteland is the kind of thing that infuriates poor Saphirette. As she says in the monster realm guide book:

>This is one of the things that really infuriates me, but according to the scholar of monsters, the anti-monster organization, “the Order of the Chief God”, and some humans have been spreading rumors or acknowledging the idea that the mamono realms are barren lands, and that they have desolate wastelands, poisonous swamps, etc. but they're mistaken, and it's totally wrong. The mamono realm's earth is rich in mamono mana, in other words, nutrients. Plants and crops peculiar to the mamono realm grow and bear great fruits for all the living things of the mamono realm. In the land of the mamono realm covered in demonic black soil, there are trees that are different from those of human realms. They are black with crooked shapes, having green and blue leaves that shine in the moonlight, bright shining flowers that bloom in profusion, and bright colored, colorful fruit. It's a place overflowing with the rich fruits of life and nature, even more so than the human world.

>Additionally, the scenery described above often looks ominously eerie to humans, but the sense of monsters and incubi is different from that of humans, and it feels extremely beautiful to them.

Here's something that was just posted on MGR that should tide us over until shoggoth is translated.