/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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>Society decides
Who is society?
Is it the wealthy?
Is it the Elites?
Is it the leaders?
Is it the party?
Is it the people?
Is it all of them?

And if you determine that it is everyone that participates in the "group" we call society and their opinion are all equally valuable do you think niche arts such as visual novels would still exist? There is a reason why VNs as a medium has remained a niche

Think about pic related, is it beautiful? I think it is beautiful, but what if we showed this image to a normalfag, what would they say? Probably it isn't
But what if instead of pic related i posted an image of a half naked, sexually attractive and reproductive aged 3D female?
The average normalfag will probably say it's beautiful.

>I believe that people have ideas about beauty on a subconscious level. Healthy people are beautiful, nature is beautiful, clear sky is beautiful.
I agree, but there is also something more that can be said, of all the examples you provided all of them come from nature, the sky, the human body, nature itself. Human art does not come from nature, it may seek to imitate nature, but it comes from humanity and therefore, it comes from outside of nature. (unless you determine that humanity is a part of nature and therefore it too can be considered to be nothing but a natural process taking place with a begging and an end, and therefore not outside of nature, but rather another element to it)

What we "naturally" find beautiful is yet another medium by which the unconscious manipulates us into obeying it's will and primary directive of evolutionary survival, perhaps this is the reason why beauty is not objective, precisely because it is not rational, and instead of emerging from universally definable and agreeable characteristics, it emerges from the pit of the unconscious, which has it's own goals to achieve, and has learnt to prioritize certain elements over others

If we go by the metric of what society finds beautiful then we would conclude that Harry Potter is a beautiful work of art, or that the latest nigger music is a beautiful work of art. Society doesn't know shit, which is why we should keep beauty as a subjective term always, otherwise the normies might start getting uppity and decide to censor what we find beautiful.