/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>36443267
Global is the one who hates idolfags because they want the holos to be just like the twitch streamers they watched before Hololive. It's peak getting into something and then demanding that said hobby change to accommodate you. Hololive "tricked" a bunch of faggots into watching and enjoying idols and now they seethe on the regular that idols do what idols are supposed to do.

>>36438706
Let's see
>towa hates EOPs which are her main audience
>towa hates her fans who don't like her collabing with men
>towa hates fans who nly watch clips
>towa hates JOP idolfags
Does Towa even like anyone at this point? I surmise that she is the luckiest person in hololive because despite being a terrible streamer she still has an audience

>>36409290
Even Nijisanji has a separate server for people who want to play MC with outsiders and they don't have a fanbase of idolfags. For someone who supposedly loves hololive and vtubing Ollie seems to know fuck all about how things are even though she has lots of opinions about how things should be.

>>36404397
>In fact, they automaticallly assumed only idolfags watch Hololive, because if they weren't idolfags of course they would watch glorious niggersanji instead
Well even I admit Hololive is a lot more popular than it was a year ago and given how little understanding people have about idolshit in these threads it is reasonable to assume that Holofags are no longer all idolshitters.

>>36404327
You know, a year ago a real nijinigger wouldn't even think to ask this. In fact, they automaticallly assumed only idolfags watch Hololive, because if they weren't idolfags of course they would watch glorious niggersanji instead. Now look at this contrarian from global who only attached himself to niggersanji because he's so new it's the only other thing in vtubing he even knows about. You'd think nijinegroes couldn't do worse than the secret discord front thread here, but /vt/ does what /jp/don't.

I HAVE AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

That’s it bros Hololive is unironically over

You called us schizos , You called us unicorns and idolfags but we kept this ship afloat. The driving force for Hololive has always been this core . ONLY and I mean ONLY thing why we (and YOU although you will never admit this ) started to even notice Hololive was because of traces of purity and Genuineness in the sea of degeneracy that is rampant on the internet .
inb4 I am here for “entertainment” and you are an purityfag. No shit. I know most of you are in fact here for entertainment . Because most of you were watching twitch thots before you found hololive or other mainstream entertainment . WHICH ARE ALL GARBAGE. and guess what? you are so used to eating up the shit that everything you find (hololive in this case) you will instantly try to make them alike. Hence your notion of – it is ok to collab with Males.
Inb4 “But wait schizo why is it so critical to not allow males collab with the Hololive girls ? it might be fun right ?!” . I will answer this as shortly as possible. YES collabs might be an pure gold BUT it will be temporary . THE second Hololive becomes “normalized entertainment” IS the second it looses its “Soul” (selling point , trademark call it whatever) . again there’s a question – Why?. Because : 1. Competition (lets be honest Nijisanji is closer then we admit) 2. CORE audience. Latter is more trouble then the first. Because motherfuckers like me we are loosers we don’t use the privileges “normies” use . And the moment we fathom armies or normies – a.k.a “I am here for entertainment”fags we BAIL . we will seethe and all but we will move on . So what is Hololive left with? People who are here for a minute ( it might be few months of maybe even a year BUT this people move on FAST because they are what ?? yes a – CONSOOMERs) . while people like me ( who literally spend more time with this girls then actual couples spend together) we will find a substitute , most likely a – indie .
Inb4 “what set you off schizo?” Towa :D :D . She opened the gates . Sausuga devil she actually struck where it hurts.
The wheels are in motion boys and this is “IT”. I am not claiming that I am some kind of Nostradamus but even the girls who are presumed pure and primary source of GFE will get “normalized”. Numbers? Idk it might be up for a little while but the big dreams and big plans we all shared are kinda dead.
Inb4: didn’t read ,ESL, cope etc.

>>36248056
>Idolfags really ruined Hololive
THIS. So much this

>>36248028
Idolfags really ruined Hololive...
>Aloe graduation
>Choco not allowed to be slutty
>No Kino Holo x Homo collab (just imagine Botan Astel or Roberu Pekora)
>No more collabs with outsiders
>Miko forced to leave behind her male friends
>Useless dance practice and less time to stream games
>No more Maimoto

>>36195622
Cope, this will be the change hololive needed and other girls will feel braver to collab with the boys now after seeing that they can discard idolfags and still be just fine

>>36195465
>I thought we can change something in Hololive production, you know our issues right
get fucked idolfags, the boys are gonna collab more with your holowhores after this and you can't do a thing about it

Are there actually fucking Discords worth using out there for Hololive discussion?
I hate the idea so much but this place will become unbearable as time goes on(already is, basically, but still)
I just want a server full of people who openly acknowledge GFE and are idolfags. It's literally all I watch Hololive for. I'm not autistic about it, I don't schizopost, surely there's more people like that out there somewhere...right...?

>>35939035
Threadly reminder that ANY of the girls could change somebody like Roberu, Astel, or Shien's lives forever with just one minimum effort collab, yet most of them refuse to even acknowledge the existence of HoloStars, and that makes them objectively shit people.

>Aqua - Astel, top tier APEX gameplay, shared autism, better ship than the forced AquaMarine
>Okayu - Oga, top comfy retro stream
>Mio - Tenmma true neutral alliance
>Korone - Oga top comfy retro stream very good ship
>Shion - boring as fuck, not worth it
>Ayame - Astel top tier APEX gameplay, good chance at actually getting shit done at tournaments
>Pekora - Shien, the two best comedians at hololive
>Marine - Roberu straight up the best posible paring in holopro, actual chemistry instead of forced yuribait
>Rushia - boring as fuck, not worth it
>Noel - I don't want that camwhore anywhere near them, not worth the yabees
>Flare - the dyke can go fuck herself, but a sibling collab would make Lack happy
>Coco - Oga, Roberu, Kira, straight up the best conversionatlist in holopro would make amazing marshmallow streams
>Watame - Rikka very compatible singing voices, could help Watame with the male vocals instead of having to resort to Kanata or Flare
>Kanata - Astel can actually reach high notes, could make her make cover worth something
>Luna - Auran, top shitposting duo
>Towa - Already friends beforehand top chemistry, better than tokinose
>Polka - Roberu, past life friends top tier collab
>Nene - Shien maximum autism
>Lamy - I don't want her creepy gachis near the bros
>Botan - Astel, top tier APEX gameplay
Here you have, most of these collabs are objectively better than anything hololive can currently deliver at the moment, and guess what it's because good shit can come from collabs when they're planned not taking into account the genitals the talent is born with but rather the compatibility of them, but apparently that's a concept to hard tog grasp for the idolfags and the retarded incels in these threads

>>35935669
>/vt/
you mean /hololive/?
as in /jp/ is basically /touhou/ board
even for me who follow vtuber from the early days (around late 2017 and early 2018), vtuber nowadays are no different from your regular streamer/idol
it was fun run until the streamer/idol type vtuber get popular
now you must deal with obnoxious fanbases a.k.a idolfags that flooding /jp/ constantly with their shill thread and """funny""" hololive maymay thread
/jp/ used to be slow board to chill out and talking about "which 2hu would you fug", not a fast moving board with live-chat thread on current livestreaming vtuber

Holos missing from the hololy app are:

>Suisei - preparing to jump ship to Sony
>Fubuki - next target of the Chinese investors in Cover to chase out
>Aki - voice issues and stated just last night she might not be able to stream anymore
>Ayame - checked out and has no interest in streaming
>Subaru - constant bullying by her manager is taking its toll
>Mio - questions her future in hololive due to lack of popularity
>Korone - has stated she wants to graduate and is unhappy at the incompetence of the company in getting permissions for the games she wants to play
>Okayu - close friends with Korone and will leave when she does
>Pekora - reactivated her roommate Twitter, hinted at going indie and has gotten far less outfits compared to the rest of her gen
>Noel - successful roommate and losing interest in hololive because of the forced Noefure corporate ship
>Flare - unhappy over the forced Noefure corporate ship and the management threats to whitewash her character
>Rushia - close friend of Coco and has been isolated from hologra as well as the rest of the company
>Towa - dislikes the company ever since being thrown under the bus to appease rabid idolfags, has an active roommate that clearly wants out
>Coco - driven out by the Chinese investors and now Cover wants to memoryhole her by removing her from hololy
>Luna - suffering constant injuries due to the company's lack of care for their employees, mentioned that hololive was full of bullying on her roommate
>all of EN - have mentioned how much they disagree with management, with Gura practically going on strike and not streaming because she's tired of being controlled like a puppet

Reminder that if your oshi is not on the hololy app it's because they're in a contractual dispute with Cover and will likely leave the company in the near future.

>>35658553
female chuubas are mostly watched by idolfags and idolfags prefer hololive since hololive provides a better idol experience.

>>35625795
Idolbu splitting up was what destroyed hololive when all the idolfags migrated over here instead and now pretend like they were always around.

fuck hololive and fuck idolfags who worship fake-2d girls

>>35543149
Hololive did not even start with any kind of idol premise despite all the alternate history the "hardcore idolfags" here like to spew.

>>35524145
hololive generation, she's from gamers so she can talk about yutti and shohei otani wihout idolfags leaving en masse

>>35486643
>people who made hololive popular
>Coco - not an idol
>Haachama - not an idol
>EN - not idols
>Korone - not an idol
None of the popularity is from pandering to idolfags.

>>35342417
It means popularity has nothing to do with it, hololive are just terribly managed by retarded idolfags. Niji livers get to do stuff like this https://youtube.com/watch?v=CaQqmgul3wE and still be more popular than hololive in Japan.

>>35239881
I thought hololive was the idol company, why are nijifags behaving even more like idolfags than holofags are?

>>34946782
In order for Hololive to survive their decline they need to switch their content to be family friendly and targeted at children:
>No more violent games, even Minecraft should be in peaceful mode
>No more adult topics, drinking streams or other streams that could be viewed as suggestive
>Zatsudans should be focused on discussing kid's friendly anime, school advice, etc.
>Utuwaku should be based around music from Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards and such
>Holo no Grafiti is too adult, they should do Nursery Rhymes animations instead
>Since kids don't know how to superchat, Holos should explain every stream how to use their moms credit card to donate some money to Hololive
>Merch should be focused on toys and action figures
>Since children mostly type nonsense in the chat, Holos wouldn't even have to interact with chat, thus making any spammers/zhangs irrelevant
>With family friendly content antis will get bored and idolfags will be satisfied with actual seiso content
>Miko will become the most popular as her motherhood allows her to connect with children better
>Pekora will finally become a true hero of the children
With these steps, Hololive will be able to acquire the massive YouTube kids audience and see their growth and views skyrocket. They will earn less from superchats and more from Google Ads. It is truly the only way forward

For a long time I also wanted to see more interactions between the two branches and wanted Cover to stop separating them so much but now i do thinbk theu should stay separated because the Hololive fandom fucking sucks, they're either idolfags who just hate the homos for being males or retarded redditors with shitty humor. Better learn from they're shitty behaviour while the fandom is still small.