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All the 4th gen girls are having guests on their anniversary 3D streams this next week.

Think an EN will show up on Coco's tonight?

this week 4th gen almost fucked

This is the 4th Marine utawaku this week

>>31173516
>Coco in 4th
Didn't she just stream like a week on December?

The way 4th gen got mogged this week just unified the fanbase even more

>>30843991
growth being a logarithmic function is entirely natural.
And I'll say it, I highly doubt that Gura would still grow ~10k a day if she wasn't gaming the algorithm by avoiding swears.
Zombie isn't too weird, she debuted like 2 weeks ago, in fact her 2nd week growth is smaller than Kiara's 4th week growth going by socialblade(25k vs 28k). Though to be fair she had a far higher 1st week than literally anyone else.

Apologies for the numberfagging but i love statistics

>>30716662
>4th week without members only masturbation
Bros...

>Friend mentions the PekoMoona collab and Ollie's debut were only a few days apart
>"haha no there's been so much that's happened since then, that was like over a week a-"
>PekoMoona was on Dec 1st and Ollie was Dec 4th
>Thanksgiving was only a week and a half prior to today

>GURA HITS 20K SUBS FOR THE 4TH DAY IN A ROW
LET IT BE FUCKING KNOWN.
THE SHARK INCLINE HAS RESUMED.
THIS IS. THE. FOURTH. DAY. THAT GURA HAS HIT 20K SUBS IN GROWTH.

now, this is a monumental occasion.
why? first of all, guras sub growth has been trending downwards in recent weeks. this last week specifically, there have been a few hours where she's actually had 0 subs/day

youtube increments subs by 10k once you hit 1mil. basically, it took gura >24h to hit the +10k sub increment for a few days, which was extremely worrisome.
coupled with her low average viewership these past few days, it was truly seeming as if the gura boom had finally ended - and she was going to recline dramatically.

BUT BOY WERE WE FUCKING WRONG!

lets first take a look at how long (on avg) its taken gura to hit 10k subs/day for the past week.


11/26 - 12:00 baseline
11/27 - 12:00 +1 FUCKING HOUR
11/28 - 13:00 + 1 hr
11/29 - 12:00 -1hr
11/30 - 6:00 - 6HRS
12/01 - 2:00 - 4HRS
12/02 - 0:00 -2HRS
12/02 - 22:00 - 2HRS

SO BEFORE 11/29, GURA HAD A NET TIME GAIN OF (+2HR) -> THIS IS BAD.
however, for some reason, ever since the 30th, she's had a huge (-14hr net gain)

now, the fact that this happened for the fourth day in a row seems to establish that this will be a consistent trend for the foreseeable future. maybe yt algo has finally put her back in the spotlight.

now what happened on the 30th?
>PORTAL 2 INA COLLAB
however, this collab was a failure by gura standards, it received:
>30k ave, 33k peak
very very low numbers for gura. so what else could it have been? must've been the algo.
also, the sametori collab seems to have further catalyzed this growth.

now, guras viewership has still been very worrisome. lets compare the last week to the week before.

WEEK OF NOV 23 - 29
>SOMA 2 32K AVE, 35K PEAK
>MINECRAFT 42K, 47K
>ZATSUDAN 27K, 36K
>PORTAL 2 30K, 33K
>SUPERLIMINAL 2 33K, 42K

SO EXCLUDING ZATSUDAN:
>34.25K AVERAGE VIEWERS. VERY VERY LOW.

NOW THE WEEK OF NOV 16-22
>MINECRAFT BUILDCRAFT 43K, 51K
>PASSPARTOUT 41K, 47K
>MC 43K, 49K
>SOMA 31K, 34K (THIS IS WHERE THE MAJOR VIEWER DROP OCCURED)
>SUPERLIMINAL 36K, 40K
>DST 22K, 27K

SO EXCLUDING DST BECAUSE SHADOWBAN:
>AVE 38.8K (STILL LOW)

NOW IF WE LOOK AT HER PRIME WEEK WITH A WAY OUT AND PHASMO GUERILLA

>A WAY OUT PART 1 54K 61K
>PROTEIN 40K, 49K
>GUERILLA 36K, 52K
>A WAY OUT 51K, 64K
>AMONG US COLLAB 37,K, 40K
AVE 45.25K (EXCLUDING AMONG US CAUSE ITS A BIG COLLAB)

SO IF WE COMPARE THESE 3 WEEKS
-24% DROP FROM A WAY OUT WEEK VIEWERSHIP TO MOST RECENT WEEK
-11.7% DROP FROM WEEK OF SPORTSFES TO MOST RECENT WEEK

now hopefully, the youtube algo will bring her back to where she truly belongs -> the top.in both subs and viewers.
RFA and yoga should serve to supplement her viewer numbers this week, hopefully.

>GURA HITS 20K SUBS FOR THE 4TH DAY IN A ROW
LET IT BE FUCKING KNOWN.
THE SHARK INCLINE HAS RESUMED.
THIS IS. THE. FOURTH. DAY. THAT GURA HAS HIT 20K SUBS IN GROWTH.

now, this is a monumental occasion.
why? first of all, guras sub growth has been trending downwards in recent weeks. this last week specifically, there have been a few hours where she's actually had 0 subs/day

youtube increments subs by 10k once you hit 1mil. basically, it took gura >24h to hit the +10k sub increment for a few days, which was extremely worrisome.
coupled with her low average viewership these past few days, it was truly seeming as if the gura boom had finally ended - and she was going to recline dramatically.

BUT BOY WERE WE FUCKING WRONG!

lets first take a look at how long (on avg) its taken gura to hit 10k subs/day for the past week.


11/26 - 12:00 baseline
11/27 - 12:00 +1 FUCKING HOUR
11/28 - 13:00 + 1 hr
11/29 - 12:00 -1hr
11/30 - 6:00 - 6HRS
12/01 - 2:00 - 4HRS
12/02 - 0:00 -2HRS
12/02 - 22:00 - 2HRS

SO BEFORE 11/29, GURA HAD A NET TIME GAIN OF (+2HR) -> THIS IS BAD.
however, for some reason, ever since the 30th, she's had a huge (-14hr net gain)

now, the fact that this happened for the fourth day in a row seems to establish that this will be a consistent trend for the foreseeable future. maybe yt algo has finally put her back in the spotlight.

now what happened on the 30th?
>PORTAL 2 INA COLLAB
however, this collab was a failure by gura standards, it received:
>30k ave, 33k peak
very very low numbers for gura. so what else could it have been? must've been the algo.
also, the sametori collab seems to have further catalyzed this growth.

now, guras viewership has still been very worrisome. lets compare the last week to the week before.

WEEK OF NOV 23 - 29
>SOMA 2 32K AVE, 35K PEAK
>MINECRAFT 42K, 47K
>ZATSUDAN 27K, 36K
>PORTAL 2 30K, 33K
>SUPERLIMINAL 2 33K, 42K

SO EXCLUDING ZATSUDAN:
>34.25K AVERAGE VIEWERS. VERY VERY LOW.

NOW THE WEEK OF NOV 16-22
>MINECRAFT BUILDCRAFT 43K, 51K
>PASSPARTOUT 41K, 47K
>MC 43K, 49K
>SOMA 31K, 34K (THIS IS WHERE THE MAJOR VIEWER DROP OCCURED)
>SUPERLIMINAL 36K, 40K
>DST 22K, 27K

SO EXCLUDING DST BECAUSE SHADOWBAN:
>AVE 38.8K (STILL LOW)

NOW IF WE LOOK AT HER PRIME WEEK WITH A WAY OUT AND PHASMO GUERILLA

>A WAY OUT PART 1 54K 61K
>PROTEIN 40K, 49K
>GUERILLA 36K, 52K
>A WAY OUT 51K, 64K
>AMONG US COLLAB 37,K, 40K
AVE 45.25K (EXCLUDING AMONG US CAUSE ITS A BIG COLLAB)

SO IF WE COMPARE THESE 3 WEEKS
-24% DROP FROM A WAY OUT WEEK VIEWERSHIP TO MOST RECENT WEEK
-11.7% DROP FROM WEEK OF SPORTSFES TO MOST RECENT WEEK

now hopefully, the youtube algo will bring her back to where she truly belongs -> the top.in both subs and viewers.
RFA and yoga should serve to supplement her viewer numbers this week, hopefully.

Reposting to get some feedback from people on who we could theoretically add from the Main Branch to watch during Dead Hours.
I looked at the Teamup again and while it will be a good week, there are three problem areas that I'll list, all in GMT to make it simpler:
>FIRST EXTENDED DEAD HOURS: December 2nd, 8:30 till December 2nd, 20:00
>SECOND EXTENDED DEAD HOURS*: December 3rd, 22:00 till December 4th, 23:00
>THIRD EXTENDED DEAD HOURS**: December 5th, 5:00 till December 5th, 22:00
*This Dead Hours has one break, a Calli Minecraft stream at 7:30, but in my opinion, a single stream wouldn't be enough to dispel the Dead Hour Rot that creeps in during extended breaks, those typically need secondary events to fill up schizo's attention
**These are only Extended Dead Hours if you do not have memberships; if you have Ame and Ina memberships, the dead hours shrink a lot more
For the longest dead hours, there's at least going to be relief with the ID debut occuring, but for the meantime, who should we watch while waiting for that time to pass? It would be best if it wasn't purely narrativeposting, and we could also use this time to expose some newfags to some of the better JP holos as a learning exercise. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fill the dead hours in, and with what Holos? Remember that this is formatted in GMT, so take that into account for schedules. To convert JST into GMT, subtract 9 hours.

Ok nigsagis, I looked at the Teamup again and while it will be a good week, there are three problem areas that I'll list, all in GMT to make it simpler:
>FIRST EXTENDED DEAD HOURS: December 2nd, 8:30 till December 2nd, 20:00
>SECOND EXTENDED DEAD HOURS*: December 3rd, 22:00 till December 4th, 23:00
>THIRD EXTENDED DEAD HOURS**: December 5th, 5:00 till December 5th, 22:00
*This Dead Hours has one break, a Calli Minecraft stream at 7:30, but in my opinion, a single stream wouldn't be enough to dispel the Dead Hour Rot that creeps in during extended breaks, those typically need secondary events to fill up schizo's attention
**These are only Extended Dead Hours if you do not have memberships; if you have Ame and Ina memberships, the dead hours shrink a lot more
For the longest dead hours, there's at least going to be relief with the ID debut occuring, but for the meantime, who should we watch while waiting for that time to pass? It would be best if it wasn't purely narrativeposting, and we could also use this time to expose some newfags to some of the better JP holos as a learning exercise. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fill the dead hours in, and with what Holos? Remember that this is formatted in GMT, so take that into account for schedules. To convert JST into GMT, subtract 9 hours.

>>29648222
>ina delays her schedule (for the 4th week in a row)
>crickets
It does annoy me slightly, but at this point I'm too lazy to complain, I'm happy if we get anything at all by now, same with the shork.

>gura delays her schedule
>what a fucking LAZY SHARK. UNGRATEFUL SHIT. she fucking hates hololive.

>ina delays her schedule (for the 4th week in a row)
>crickets

like clockwork.

if mori ruins the kino halo collab next week, im going to fucking OD on my sleeping pills.
ame, please, i know you frequent this board. listen to me. DONT. DO NOT RUIN HALO CE WITH THAT FUCKING WALKING ABOMINATION.
now, i have NOTHING against mori. shes my 4th favourite holo, but she DOES NOT LIKE GAMES. she is NOT GOING TO COMPLETE THE HALO CE COLLAB WITH YOU, AMELIA. SHE IS GOING TO PLAY IT FOR ONE OR TWO STREAMS AND THE GAME WILL BE THROWN INTO THE TRASH.
play something else with mori. valorant, cs, who the fuck cares. don't destroy a timeless classic which has MASSIVE collab potential for her. it's not her kind of game.
do it with either gura (preferred) or ina (also good). anyone else is a MISTAKE. THEY WILL NOT COMMIT

>>29626494
>I think you underestimate the number of people who were only watching her in her last week/lurking her discord to see if she would spaz out over all the drama
They wouldn't still be in the Discord writing supportive messages even now if that was the case. Besides, even if she'd lose like 3/4th of her viewers, that's still a lot of money. Especially considering some of her simps drop insane amounts of it.

>>29334101
This is the 4th week you've done this, don't you get tired of getting BTFO cuck-kun?

>>29278556
>It's only a matter of time until Gura is sucking eceleb cock
This is, what, the 4th week you've said this now?

>>29257984
It's just the english special week, for the 4th week in a row

>>28899237
>takes a week off
>still 4th place in supacha
What the actual fuck...?

>>28647784
U-Um...thats the 4th keyboard this week Noel-chan...

Nenechi update! This week's schedule is up!
It was already posted last thread but the translation was spread throughout multiple replies, so here's it one concise post for the convenience of all Nenepro employees!

>November 3rd
Break from streaming in order to rest her throat!
>November 4th
12PM JST, and then something at night!!
>November 5th
Something at night!!
>November 6th
12PM JST, 8PM JST Collab with Matsuri-senpai, 12AM Minecraft with Towawa and Haachama
>November 7th
9PM JST 5th Gen Collab (From Lamy-mama's stream, it's planned to be Phasmophobia)

I hope everyone has something to look forward this week with Nenechi!

>>28284411
4th Generation
If 3rd Generation was where Hololive started to take off, 4th Generation was where it exploded.
Every generation was more successful than the last but the jump from 2-3 and then 3-4 is what people talk about when they talk about the Hololive boom. Does not have the chemistry within the Generation though, you rarely see them together.

>Amane Kanata
Poorfag. Going deaf. Called PPT because her debut was literally, actually, literally a power point presentation. Lame and has horrible fashion sense. People love that about her. Fills daughter niche. Good singer. Lives in the Holohouse with Kiryu Coco.

>Kiryu Coco
Oh man. You could write an essay on Coco alone. I FUCKING HATE THIS BITCH. But I love her too. /hlg/ and /hlgg/ alternate between these two modes all the time. Love her or hate her, she has been a titanic force within Hololive. Used to do a daily show every morning called Asacoco 1.0 that would detail the goings on at Hololive and make jokes. Brought massive attention to other Holos. It was great. Then she did a joke where PPT got hung from a tree and management shut that down. Coco is probably the Holo who has conflicted with management the most, due to her constant line crossing and willingness to rock the boat. Despite this, she and Marine are very respected by the other girls. She's given advice and support to many Holo, including when Aqua got attacked by Antis and Watame when she was worried about numberfagging. Speaking of numbers, Coco is the company's most superchatted Holo and Japan's (and the world I think) most superchatted Youtuber period. She speaks fluent English and Japanese and subtitles Asacoco, thus was responsible for bringing in large numbers of EN audience. People hate her cause she’s an EOP magnet but she set the stage for Hololive EN. Genuinely cares for the wellbeing of the other Holos. Started the Holohouse, a place where all the Holos could live together for security, easy collaborations. Right now it is an apartment complex, Suisei and Anemachi share an apt and Coco and Kanata share another. Now that management neutered Asacoco, she does it only a few days a week and it sucks now. Reddit farming has turned many against her, but it's still a great way for her to introduce not as popular Holos to her huge audience. ARK addict. Dances like an actual fucking stripper and it's amazing. Whenever she swings her hips, all is forgiven. Her 3D debut is a must watch, very different from other 3D debuts. Also probably the 2nd best collab partner after Marine. I fucking hate this bitch. Makes chinks seethe though.

>Tsunomaki Watame
Fluffy soothing sheep. Great voice. Used to be a teacher for children and it shows. Sings a lot. Has a lewd side. Will run with almost anything in a collab which leads to great moments. Used to be a huge numberfag until the biggest number, Coco, talked to her. Her model is extremely well made and full of expressions, the most popular being her "gangimari" or "high on drugs" face. Cries easily and loves potato chips.

>Tokoyami Towa
Has a large proportion of English speakers in her fanbase compared to JP Holos (aside from Coco). Mostly SEAniggers unfortunately. Low voice. Fans love her singing. Is a devil but is actually quite nice, the joke being that all her devilish antics are harmless. Had a YABEE incident which I won't go into here, not really a huge deal though.

>Himemori Luna
0 year old baby. Yes that’s actually her setting. If her design looks familiar, it’s from the artist behind Oreimo and Eromanga Sensei. Actually old and out of shape, she gets winded super fast during 3D. Learning piano.

imo hololive its doing okay, tho, i dont see the main appeal of sora nor choco to have so many subs compared to suisei or others that are doing relatively worse
A-chan needs also a channel or to appears more in collabs, her last collab with korone was pretty good, tho most of the work was koro but they were in a good sinergy
miko's doing okay
haato was doing okay keeping all the EOPs but coco took all that so who knows, also idk where she is, been like 1 or 2 week since her last stream iirc
it would be funny to have coco and haato do a mix language stream, im pretty sure it would also help haato improve her english and coco's japanese but in term of personality, they dont really fit together imo
azki, aki, and mei are kinda fucked up
wheres ayame? onibros...
shion should keep doing collab with our autist maid
okayu and koro are good alone and they are also great in collabs so as long as they keep doing what they are doing, it should be good
rushia should keep going with her bipolarity of hate/love
i love pekora but kinda fuck her for pulling ny yui so fast when i used 170+ rolls and i didnt get shit
no idea about flare since i dont really watch her
out of everyone of the 4th gen, i think the only one that will have a problem in the future will be luna, watame's doing okay, kanata's as well, coco not even worth mentioning, and towa is a tryhard in games, her only problem is that she kinda sounds like a grandma
subaru and mio individually arent that good but in collab is where they do really shine