/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>33466375
And how do you know any of that? You don't even speak japanese, it's just your headcanon because you needed a convenient boogeyman to put all the blame on. You can't blame the japanese nationalists because they're "based" or whatever, you can't blame the idolfags because that's the bulk of hololive's audience, you can't blame the holofags who were pissed about the leaks because they're in your tribe. The only one you can pin the blame on is the evil "nijifags" and your proof for that is that some posts pointing out that what she said about Chitose was false. And that's "spearheading the harassment" somehow. Mental gymnastics olympics over here.

Being 100% unironic and with no intention of baiting (if you feel like that's the case you save yourselves the wrong thread or beggar) buy why don't more holos collab with the holostars?
It has been a while since the collab ban was lifted and the companies merged yet barely anything changes I really don't understand most of them have at some point done a collaboration with a male
>Suisei has males over for mspe
>Miko collabed with males
>Mel had the whole incident with her manager, I doubt she has any idolfags
>Aki has the guy with the guitar and is married
>Aqua, Shion and Ayame used to collab with males
>Subaru collabs with Maimoto
>Mio, Okayu and Korone used to collab with males
>Marine interviews men on her radio show
>Flare has a brother in the holostars and lack is desperate to see them together
>Towa
>Coco used to interact with Kaoru but for some reason no longer cares about the stars
>Everyone knows about mukkun
>Luna's past life interacted with men all the time
>Polka is best friends with Roberu
>Botan has collabed with E-sporst profesionals as Botan
>Ina has mentioned and drawn the on stream
>Mori shows up on their chats
>Ame collabed with a male
>Gura makes content for kids
So why won't they collab with the stars? In all honestly I'm personally inclined to believe that it's managment's fault, as in they're personally preventing the collabs from happening, we know that Hololive allow gachikois to influence the management style and force the girls to behave like traditional irl idols that can't be around guys. I think YAGOO wants to go back to the old way but he needs to get all his talents on board to actively(but not openly) push back on fans that are assplasted over them talking with/collabing with males.
It's really hard to take shit seriousy like "Hololive is a family" when they completly ignore a very hardworking and strugging branch when they have nothing to lose in helping them and even if they were to lose one of two gachis, so what?? is that worht more than helping a fellow human being
I really admire and respect Sora, FBK, Choco and Matsuri for being so good to our boys but I really find it hard to be empathethic with the rest when the push such a dangerous and toxic agenda like idolfagging when in reality it's only going to end up harming them in the long run.
Really I think Towa is the straw that broke the camel's back, really collabing with a male but ignoring the homos??? she was forced to include a male on her team but instead of going to Astel the best APEX player in Holopro he went to some random dude, that's just fucking rude. I'm very disapointed in the choices made by most of the members of the main and English branches and have decided to not longer support them

Threadly reminder that ANY of the girls could change somebody like Roberu, Astel, or Shien's lives forever with just one minimum effort collab, yet most of them refuse to even acknowledge the existence of HoloStars, and that makes them objectively shit people.

>Aqua - Astel, top tier APEX gameplay, shared autism, better ship than the forced AquaMarine
>Okayu - Oga, top comfy retro stream
>Mio - Tenmma true neutral alliance
>Korone - Oga top comfy retro stream very good ship
>Shion - boring as fuck, not worth it
>Ayame - Astel top tier APEX gameplay, good chance at actually getting shit done at tournaments
>Pekora - Shien, the two best comedians at hololive
>Marine - Roberu straight up the best posible paring in holopro, actual chemistry instead of forced yuribait
>Rushia - boring as fuck, not worth it
>Noel - I don't want that camwhore anywhere near them, not worth the yabees
>Flare - the dyke can go fuck herself, but a sibling collab would make Lack happy
>Coco - Oga, Roberu, Kira, straight up the best conversionatlist in holopro would make amazing marshmallow streams
>Watame - Rikka very compatible singing voices, could help Watame with the male vocals instead of having to resort to Kanata or Flare
>Kanata - Astel can actually reach high notes, could make her make cover worth something
>Luna - Auran, top shitposting duo
>Towa - Already friends beforehand top chemistry, better than tokinose
>Polka - Roberu, past life friends top tier collab
>Nene - Shien maximum autism
>Lamy - I don't want her creepy gachis near the bros
>Botan - Astel, top tier APEX gameplay
Here you have, most of these collabs are objectively better than anything hololive can currently deliver at the moment, and guess what it's because good shit can come from collabs when they're planned not taking into account the genitals the talent is born with but rather the compatibility of them, but apparently that's a concept to hard tog grasp for the idolfags and the retarded incels in these threads

>>33345087
You have to be being willfully ignorant, did you not read the conversation that is happening and just read that post? Here's an example for you, you can think you are smart and call yourself intelligent but that doesn't mean you are as you have shown you are a dumb motherfucker that can't even read a whole conversation before replying.

People were saying that hololive fans are idolfags which here means people obsessed with purity the whole point is they are obviously not pandering to what 4chan calls idolfags because they are not pure at all. They sing and dance sure but they are constantly talking about dirty shit, sexual fetishes, collabing with men which turns idolfags/purity people off. If the fanbase was full of these people, then they would have no subscribers and no fanbase. They have a huge fanbase so clearly most of their viewers are not idolfags/purityobsessed.
It's not hard to work out.

>>33344524
Of those three I named I only watch Sora and just watch whatever clips interest me of Mio and Fubuki, I simply said they are the most idollike not that they don't collab with men. You're fucked up reading comprehension connected those two sentences yourself.

The fact that hololive is so popular despite doing non idolish stuff probably means that most the fans are not idolfags otherwise they would unsubscribe and stop following whenever they see or hear them do unidolish stuff. All these situations you describe from fans seem to be very much in the minority, I think from all the hololive hentai i've seen on twitter I've probably only seen 3 users try to get a person to delete what they have drawn and that was of Pekora's mother. You do know that chan boards and twitter are the minority opinion right? Where crazy people go to rant their warped ideals and the majority of people are silent watchers who don't feel the need to post their opinion to the world. It seems like you go on twitter and channel boards and then base the average fan on this conglomeration of mentally ill people.

>>33344386
>call traditional idols that would attract idolfags are fubuki, mio and sora
all girls that have collabed with men before too and the first who was actively trying to make peace with the male idol branch? faggot, you don't watch hololive either, or worse, you watch, and don't know japanese.

Japanese hololive fans are purityfags at heart, they scream and seethe everytime people mention malexfemale collab there, they mock nijisanji for not meeting their numbers because of the lack of unicorn pandering. And witch hunting artists that draw lewd pics of the girls is common, it's not rare at all that you see a butthurt holofag telling the artist to delete a fanart, because it's against Cover's rules.

>>33343965
The Hololive-anti here change what hololive fans and hololive does and is to meet their boogieman. They don't watch them because they are anti obviously so just make up whatever shit works best for whatever drama is happening. People like to push the Idol and idolfag angle when so many of their members are as far away from a traditional idol as you can get. They can call themselves idols sure but they obviously are not the traditional idols associated with idolfags obsessed with purity that people here talk about. Marine was lewd from the beginning and is still lewd talking about erodoujin and lewd situations, Matsuri talked about liking geiger counter of all things and regularly collabs with men. The only people you could probably call traditional idols that would attract idolfags are fubuki, mio and sora.
Of course people who are obsessed with hating Hololive don't really care about being correct about anything just whatever fits their boogieman which apparently now is 'the fans don't even have sex' which seems very much a throwing stones in glass houses situation for people that rub shoulders with people that frequent 4chan

What are the odds he's watching? He is one of the biggest idolfags in hololive, after all.

In order for Hololive to survive their decline they need to switch their content to be family friendly and targeted at children:
>No more violent games, even Minecraft should be in peaceful mode
>No more adult topics, drinking streams or other streams that could be viewed as suggestive
>Zatsudans should be focused on discussing kid's friendly anime, school advice, etc.
>Utuwaku should be based around music from Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards and such
>Holo no Grafiti is too adult, they should do Nursery Rhymes animations instead
>Since kids don't know how to superchat, Holos should explain every stream how to use their moms credit card to donate some money to Hololive
>Merch should be focused on toys and action figures
>Since children mostly type nonsense in the chat, Holos wouldn't even have to interact with chat, thus making any spammers/zhangs irrelevant
>With family friendly content antis will get bored and idolfags will be satisfied with actual seiso content
>Miko will become the most popular as her motherhood allows her to connect with children better
>Pekora will finally become a true hero of the children
With these steps, Hololive will be able to acquire the massive YouTube kids audience and see their growth and views skyrocket. They will earn less from superchats and more from Google Ads. It is truly the only way forward

Idolfags claim that the reason Hololive is so profitable is because of the idol aspect, yet Suichan, who is the most idol-like, is bringing in 0 supercahts and 0 memberships, curious

>>33146778
>treat is as an afterthought
>Matsuri
Jesus fucking christ how new are you? Do you even watch hololive?
This is exactly why you self-proclaimed idolfags are so fucking easy to hate.

>>33125368
holostars fans are composed of the worst combination of people possible
-ESLs: if you go to any discord (>inb4 go back) or group related to hololive holostars posters are always ESLs bitching about how unpopular they are and begging for collabs, explains why almost their entire chat is in broken english
-twitter fujos: they choose not to translate certain things like Astel and Roberu liking shotas because "it's not right"
-anti-idolfags: "people" who think holostars is only unpopular because idolfaggotry and the girls are afraid of them because they can lose their fans, when in reality the homos aren't unique or interesting and the girls do their job an infinite amount of times better while also being cuter

>>33112491
In order for Hololive to survive their decline they need to switch their content to be family friendly and targeted at children:
>No more violent games, even Minecraft should be in peaceful mode
>No more adult topics, drinking streams or other streams that could be viewed as suggestive
>Zatsudans should be focused on discussing kid's friendly anime, school advice, etc.
>Utuwaku should be based around music from Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards and such
>Holo no Grafiti is too adult, they should do Nursery Rhymes animations instead
>Since kids don't know how to superchat, Holos should explain every stream how to use their moms credit card to donate some money to Hololive
>Merch should be focused on toys and action figures
>Since children mostly type nonsense in the chat, Holos wouldn't even have to interact with chat, thus making any spammers/zhangs irrelevant
>With family friendly content antis will get bored and idolfags will be satisfied with actual seiso content
>Miko will become the most popular as her motherhood allows her to connect with children better
>Pekora will finally become a true hero of the children
With these steps, Hololive will be able to acquire the massive YouTube kids audience and see their growth and views skyrocket. They will earn less from superchats and more from Google Ads. It is truly the only way forward

>>33027235
In order for Hololive to survive their decline they need to switch their content to be family friendly and targeted at children:
>No more violent games, even Minecraft should be in peaceful mode
>No more adult topics, drinking streams or other streams that could be viewed as suggestive
>Zatsudans should be focused on discussing kid's friendly anime, school advice, etc.
>Utuwaku should be based around music from Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards and such
>Holo no Grafiti is too adult, they should do Nursery Rhymes animations instead
>Since kids don't know how to superchat, Holos should explain every stream how to use their moms credit card to donate some money to Hololive
>Merch should be focused on toys and action figures
>Since children mostly type nonsense in the chat, Holos wouldn't even have to interact with chat, thus making any spammers/zhangs irrelevant
>With family friendly content antis will get bored and idolfags will be satisfied with actual seiso content
>Miko will become the most popular as her motherhood allows her to connect with children better
>Pekora will finally become a true hero of the children
With these steps, Hololive will be able to acquire the massive YouTube kids audience and see their growth and views skyrocket. They will earn less from superchats and more from Google Ads. It is truly the only way forward

>>33009578

In order for Hololive to survive their decline they need to switch their content to be family friendly and targeted at children:
>No more violent games, even Minecraft should be in peaceful mode
>No more adult topics, drinking streams or other streams that could be viewed as suggestive
>Zatsudans should be focused on discussing kid's friendly anime, school advice, etc.
>Utuwaku should be based around music from Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards and such
>Holo no Grafiti is too adult, they should do Nursery Rhymes animations instead
>Since kids don't know how to superchat, Holos should explain every stream how to use their moms credit card to donate some money to Hololive
>Merch should be focused on toys and action figures
>Since children mostly type nonsense in the chat, Holos wouldn't even have to interact with chat, thus making any spammers/zhangs irrelevant
>With family friendly content antis will get bored and idolfags will be satisfied with actual seiso content
>Miko will become the most popular as her motherhood allows her to connect with children better
>Pekora will finally become a true hero of the children
With these steps, Hololive will be able to acquire the massive YouTube kids audience and see their growth and views skyrocket. They will earn less from superchats and more from Google Ads. It is truly the only way forward

In order for Hololive to survive their decline they need to switch their content to be family friendly and targeted at children:
>No more violent games, even Minecraft should be in peaceful mode
>No more adult topics, drinking streams or other streams that could be viewed as suggestive
>Zatsudants should be focused on discussing kid's friendly anime, school advice, etc.
>Utuwaku should be based around music from Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards and such
>Holo no Grafiti is too adult, they should do Nursery Rhymes animations instead
>Since kids don't know how to superchat, Holos should explain every stream how to use their moms credit card to donate some money to Hololive
>Merch should be focused on toys and action figures
>Since children mostly type nonsense in the chat, Holos wouldn't even have to interact with chat, thus making any spammers/zhangs irrelevant
>With family friendly content antis will get bored and idolfags will be satisfied with actual seiso content
>Miko will become the most popular as her motherhood allows her to connect with children better
>Pekora will finally become a true hero of the children
With these steps, Hololive will be able to acquire the massive YouTube kids audience and see their growth and views skyrocket. They will earn less from superchats and more from Google Ads. It is truly the only way forward

In order for Hololive to survive their decline they need to switch their content to be family friendly and targeted at children:
>No more violent games, even Minecraft should be in peaceful mode
>No more adult topics, drinking streams or other streams that could be viewed as suggestive
>Zatsudants should be focused on discussing kid's friendly anime, school advice, etc.
>Utuwaku should be based around music from Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards and such
>Holo no Grafiti is too adult, they should do Nursery Rhymes animations instead
>Since kids don't know how to superchat, Holos should explain every stream how to use their moms credit card to donate some money to Hololive
>Merch should be focused on toys and action figures
>Since children mostly type nonsense in the chat, Holos wouldn't even have to interact with chat, thus making any spammers/zhangs irrelevant
>With family friendly content antis will get bored and idolfags will be satisfied with actual seiso content
>Miko will become the most popular as her motherhood allows her to connect with children better
>Pekora will finally become a true hero of the children
With these steps, Hololive will be able to acquire the massive YouTube kids audience and see their growth and views skyrocket. They will earn less from superchats and more from Google Ads. It is truly the only way forward

>>32946099
They deserve it. *ahem*

Threadly reminder that ANY of the girls could change somebody like Roberu, Astel, or Shien's lives forever with just one minimum effort collab, yet most of them refuse to even acknowledge the existence of HoloStars, and that makes them objectively shit people.

>Aqua - Astel, top tier APEX gameplay, shared autism, better ship than the forced AquaMarine
>Okayu - Oga, top comfy retro stream
>Mio - Tenmma true neutral alliance
>Korone - Oga top comfy retro stream very good ship
>Shion - boring as fuck, not worth it
>Ayame - Astel top tier APEX gameplay, good chance at actually getting shit done at tournaments
>Pekora - Shien, the two best comedians at hololive
>Marine - Roberu straight up the best posible paring in holopro, actual chemistry instead of forced yuribait
>Rushia - boring as fuck, not worth it
>Noel - I don't want that camwhore anywhere near them, not worth the yabees
>Flare - the dyke can go fuck herself, but a sibling collab would make Lack happy
>Coco - Oga, Roberu, Kira, straight up the best conversionatlist in holopro would make amazing marshmallow streams
>Watame - Rikka very compatible singing voices, could help Watame with the male vocals instead of having to resort to Kanata or Flare
>Kanata - Astel can actually reach high notes, could make her make cover worth something
>Luna - Auran, top shitposting duo
>Towa - Already friends beforehand top chemistry, better than tokinose
>Polka - Roberu, past life friends top tier collab
>Nene - Shien maximum autism
>Lamy - I don't want her creepy gachis near the bros
>Botan - Astel, top tier APEX gameplay
Here you have, most of these collabs are objectively better than anything hololive can currently deliver at the moment, and guess what it's because good shit can come from collabs when they're planned not taking into account the genitals the talent is born with but rather the compatibility of them, but apparently that's a concept to hard tog grasp for the idolfags and the retarded incels in these threads

>>32911604
On top of that /vt/ is devoid of active Nijisanji threads. Hololive idolfags are the root of the problem.

>>32677271
The era where hololive wasn't pandering to idolfags and gachikois.

I miss it too much

>>32662735
Hololive main income is supacha and management thought most who send them are idolfags

>>32611901
>Hololive is like a family
>Completely neglect the Holostars
Bullshit, a family wouldn't let their cousins starve just because of a few stupid idolfags

>>32606659
Most idolfags don't care if their girls are "pure", we care if they are not dating while they're working as idols. This precedent has been set many times over. But besides that, the difference is that idols are real people you get to see change from amateurs to professional entertainers. They grow and develop and discover their area of expertise, and you support them through that. They have to be hugely dedicated and put their heart and soul into it. It's not just sitting in front of a computer and playing games with a 2d/3d avatar and a chara to hide your lack of self-confidence. Anyone can do that reasonably well. It's not the blood sweat and tears that idols go through. Also, idols get wotas out of their basements and into the world.
Hololive is not idols. It's streamer girls. Like any other Twitch girls.

>>32606683
>>32606752
>>32606815
You holoshitters are this delusional? My favourite THERETHERETHEREs song is Burnable Garbage because it has great mix. Shida Manaka is a harlot. Everyone missed Kuumin from SKE. Ano cut herself.

>>32594251
Hololive is ruled by idolfags and GFEfags