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anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

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>>50451860 (OP)
Yes and this has been stated multiple times.
People who suck up to management do not think.
>shit at getting permissions
>getting in the way of girls playing shit they want
>shit at approving their original ideas
>shit at approving their projects
>never planning any special collab event
>never releasing special holyday themed content
>never promoted any good projects
>failed to care for the girls emotional needs
>let the girls burnout
>so insensitive they actually hurt the girl's feelings several times
>shit at approving collabs outside the company
>greenlights two male gens in a row
>two years TWO YEARS stuck with only 10 streamers, maybe 6/10 actually streaming at a time
>did not properly separate Holostars from Hololive, instead tried to merge them

HoloEN and HololiveJP were at a similar point when EN debuted but since then JP has only gotten bigger, more new members, higher peaks, even the low members have gone up, many of their low or mids have entirely gone up a tier. Subaru became a powerhouse, Azki rose higher than ever.
What does HoloEN have to show?
Their aces like Gura, Mori an Kronii have lost around 50% of their audience. Many others have losses too. Ina, Mumei and Fauna might be the only girls still doing well.
Management let Ame implode herself with her ego and terrible PR. They pushed Kronii towards her own self sabotage.
>but but pandemic
Across the board vtubers have grown since then
>but but japan!!!
the rest of the english speaking world has more people than japan even accounting for japan's higher proportion of people who'd like to watch anime girls
NijiEN was having a very strong consistent growth as well and they also imploded for their own separate reasons.
Vshoujo sort of imploded now too, but up to that point it was actually doing great, the members individually are doing great. The company just split.
Is that a big W for HoloEN ? Having stagnation and decline but not as much as the closest competition who is splitting itself apart or caught in controversy after controversy?
Indies overall have grown, small corpo have grown.
The market overall has grown. HoloEN hasn't.
There's this misconception among small corpo fans that if HoloEN was gone all of those fans would flock to small corpo but that's not true, some will do it but many will just quit vtubers entirely and we might be seeing that.
Where did the 40k Gura was pulling go after she quit streaming? Many went to Yuko, sure, but she's not pulling 40k.
Where did Mori's 30k go? Where did Kronii's 20k go?
Not to small corpo or indies, not even Nijisanji, they just quit.
Council was gimped at its birth by a horrible marketing that teased and blue balled fans and provided vague cryptic shit instead of just presenting the new gen. The theme was so complex and messy and with such a thick kayfabe it was not fun. Another failure of EN management, but at least they realized that and with Tempus kept it much more simple.


My point can be summed up very easily, HoloEN has the monopoly on most of the market and all it takes to succeed is putting the bare minimum, not rocking the boat and being consistent. And management wasn't even able to achieve that.
Its actions and inactions have been partly responsible for a roughly 50% decline on HoloEN's value, an economical value for Cover but also a sentimental value for the fans that have been let down.
HoloEN management is a strong candidate for one of the most incompetent jobs on the entertainment industry.
A lot is said about the talents themselves, they are put on display and compared. But not enough is said about the management. Even random small corpo management are better than HoloEN by miles.
HoloEN could be such a massive powerhouse, on par or greater than HololiveJP if the management wasn't shit.
Imagine if we had:
>girls that stream, appreciate their job, audience, company and understand their market
>consistent on time release of new girls emulating the release rate of HoloJP until it achieves similar numbers.
>proper approval of games, collabs and projects
>a variety of fun events, specials and projects regularly
>proper separation of the branches just like in jp
>competent marketing and gen designs/themes/concepts that are actually fun

This is not complicated shit, if small corpos with the budget of a hot dog stand can pull it off a company that can make its own MMO should be able to handle it too. Money isn't the problem, it's the human factor.
Cover should just replace all HoloEN management entirely.

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens