/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>16674492
Sakubi is a much better grammar source imo

>>16812308
Thanks.

https://a.safe.moe/QVDuf.txt

Current working version of Sakubi - Yesterday's Grammar Guide. p-please respond

Sakubi - Yesterday's Grammar Guide editing phase.txt

https://a.safe.moe/1AtgW.txt

Every lesson has been plotted. So far, the guide has only been edited circumstantially, so it's definitely still got some errors in it. Please help me find them.

The whole guide is written with the assumption that the reader isn't trying to master the grammar that the guide covers, but that the reader needs to know enough about what it covers that they can work out what it means when they run into it. This means that the explanations have to walk a fine line between being too long to be easily understood and too short to be accurate. If anyone has a problem with how a piece of grammar is covered in this guide, please post about it so that I can edit it and make it more appropriate.

This covers 54 main lessons, several intermissions, and four optional lessons, as well as out-of-beat sections telling the reader how to learn japanese. The entire guide is basic grammar, except for some slightly common literary stuff that's occasionally considered intermediate or advanced grammar.

The guide is divided into an "absolute beginner" section and an "absolute territory" section. The first section covers the structure of simple sentences and strings of verbs, and the second section introduces the "grammatical vocabulary" (auxiliaries, non-case particles, patterns, etc) necessary to understand normal japanese speech.

https://paste.safe.moe/emegatoyen.txt

Diff on Sakubi feedback so far.

Current working version of Sakubi: https://a.safe.moe/SzWfu.txt

Fixed the mistakes that were pointed out and a bunch of typos.

>>16872657
meanwhile in sakubi
>Reality check: a short form of the causative verb exists in the spoken language, and is not at all considered wrong there. It's just す. Supposedly, this doesn't apply to one-form verbs or す verbs, but don't hold your breath.

>>16887215
>>16887234

Sakubi: https://a.safe.moe/c2oDz.txt

Got deleted in the crossfire between other posts so here it is again

Sakubi: https://a.safe.moe/c2oDz.txt

>>16907711
Meanwhile in sakubi:

>Normally, intransitive verbs plus ている act alike transitive vebs plus てある. Any more is outside the scope of this guide.

What happened to Sakubi? Is that guy rewriting it or something? He hasn't posted about it.

is sakubi dead

Sakubi - Yesterday's Grammar Guide copy editing phase.txt

https://a.safe.moe/VUyOX.txt

I just rewrote like 1/5th of the lines in the first section. Second section is next, then it's "done".

>>17000859
read sakubi it gets straight to the point with why things conjugate like this

>>17000874
Sakubi? I'm not getting any link in the CoR, and a google search doesn't turn up much.


>>17000891
While I appreciate your perspective, I'm of the opinion that any input you find comprehensible aids your learning. I am reading through grammar guides, but I cannot instantly commit them the memory, nor do I know where in those guides my specific questions are addressed. I'm sorry you find my questions irritating, anon.

Are there any update on sakubi? The last one on warosu has weird font issues.

Sakubi - Yesterday's Grammar Guide copy editing phase.txt

https://a.safe.moe/XOoWe.txt

I had to rewrite more of the first section again, purging early uses of jargon. This required swapping most of lessons 16 and 17.

>>17128003
Good post. I should probably cram something about this into sakubi. The best I have is the "oh well" chapter which is literally the end.

Sakubi - Yesterday's Grammar Guide copy editing done.txt

0.2 MB

https://a.safe.moe/RnsCQ.txt

Unless I forgot to cover some piece of basic grammar, this should be the last overhaul. It's at a point where people can reasonably use it.

I'm going to look for english grammar mistakes and typos and make an HTML version.

Sakubi - Yesterday's Grammar Guide.html

0.2 MB

https://a.safe.moe/8hnhC.html

HTML version. Have fun.

>>17156859
Sakubi is a grammar guide written by a DJT regular over the course of five months because he hates the shit out of the other grammar guides.

I just tweaked Sakubi and submitted it to the OP again: https://a.safe.moe/4XHzQ.html

>>17172114
try sakubi so i know if it's usable, it's in the op's guide resources link

I have fixed a couple of bugs, improved the readability a bit imho, but best of all I finally found a decent icon for my sakubi reader android app, pic related. Time now to actually learn Japanese.

>>17172933
I fixed some problems with the HTML and writing in case you were wondering.

https://sakubi.neocities.org/