/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2890515
That's something you learn, and also circumstances that present themselves. It can either be from your past, or your present that makes you sincere. I think you have to have gone through a rough bit to really feel sincere about things. :) People who have it easy are always the unhappiest in my experience. Working for something makes you happy, which makes you nice, which can make you sincere, Just depends is all.

>>2890248
This guy is so goddamn meticulous. I love his work, but if I were to put as much time into my work as he does, I would end up hating it midway through. It's so detailed! One of his recent works has like a splotch of foggy glass with raindrops on it, it looks real. It's fucking crazy.

>>2874549
I like this a lot!

You pointed out a lot of the issues by yourself which is excellent! One thing I might add is the girl looks really stiff. Now I don't know if she is anatomically strained by the thing coming out of her mouth, but if I think if you drew her strained in some way, even subtly (arching back and some expression on her face) she might seem a bit more "fluid".

The yellow creature is very charming!

It would be cool to see this drawing redone if you happen to want to explore it again.

Got anymore works like this? Would love to see them.

>>2871074
This is great, remind me a lot of Eric Fisch!

You should post some more complete works because I think your stuff is excellent. :)

>>2870412
My dude, Brian, you gotta find another subject, something contemporary, something that interests you, that will say something to the viewer. Reproducing these still lifes over and over again (not exactly reproducing over but food, material, and vases) isn't saying anything.

I suggest looking into one of your interests outside of visual arts, be it political, psychological, or environmental it's worth looking into, explore some concepts beyond what is in front of you, literally.

You're already very skilled in painting, so I don't think it should be an issue to figure something else out. The only thing I see being an issue is conceptualizing ideas. The more you work on conceptualizing, the better you'll get.

This painting is beautiful, but I'd hate to see talent like this going towards painting bread forever. Just consider what I've said, don't take it as an insult. :)

>>2869808
This is really good, anon! Welcome back to drawing, don't stick around here too much, you get stuck. :)

Also, looking at this photo from the thumbnail size, it looks like some mutant with a very cylindrical head, and a huge nose and eyes. kek

>>2869550
build form instead of jumping straight to shading. Observe the form of a banana, and have the lines curve around that form, don't just go straight across the shape, it makes it very flat.

This is a great start none the less! However don't be afraid to push up your values and go into your darks a bit more. :)

>>2868823
These are simply amazing, reminds me a lot of Justin Mortimer but not so sporadic. I'm saving this guy's website for later.

Thank you, anon!

>>2868238
Stop whining, just fucking draw. Everybody has problems, EVERYONE. Fucking first world citizens crying that they can't draw a straight line, and that some girl broke their heart. Just find happiness in yourself and what you do. You feel like shit now, but that doesn't dictate your future.

Keep your goddamn heads up and keep going, sitting in a pit separates you further and further from where you should be.

And shit, if you can't figure this stuff out yourself, go talk to someone, a counselor at school, a psychologist, or a family member. Stop wallowing, the more you keep your mind on it, the more it sticks and doesn't let go of its tight grasp.

Believe me, I've been there, I'm still there, but I don't sit and let my mind take a hold of me. I go out and do the shit I have to do for me to reach every small goal I've created.

You're made for more then some anonymous board on 4chan, close the computer and go draw.

>>2868813
Is this Justin Mortimer? This looks like his work.

>>2868319
To put it directly, don't expect some thread on 4Chan to answer your questions. Just draw, dude, pick up your goddamn who-knows-what-you-draw-with and draw. If you don't enjoy it then stop. Drawing isn't for everyone either, maybe you're trying to say something to yourself if you get bored so fast.

>>2866093
This is pretty cool, wish you have set more of a scene though, the style is really awesome, but without a setting we're stuck only looking at the figure and wondering their context. Maybe try redoing this drawing, set the figure into a space and see what happens!

>>2865781
This is rendered well, I think the main issue is the chest and shoulder area. The hips are pretty small too, but with some correction of the wideness of the chest, and maybe making the hips a bit wider, she may look proportionate.

Nice work!

>>2865715
Good job with the other drawings, I love the gesture drawings!

Tone bar is good, but I unfortunately a cross hatching bar doesn't work that way. What I suggest to make it simpler is fill the bar completely crooked hatch marks, then the opposite direction to go darker, then another direction, and repeat. I wish there was a way to explain it easier, hopefully you understand

Good job, keep going!

>>2868296
What you could do is really study the drawings that utilize this technique. If you have some knowledge already in drawing figures, then you have a base understanding of highlights and shadows, and just utilize that.

I don't know a lot of older artists who used this, but I know Jim Dine does some Glyptotek drawings that utilize charcoal and an eraser to create the drawings. Look into reductive drawing as well (mainly drawing with your eraser).

Best of luck, anon!

>>2864963
I see no issue with grotesque, doesn't grotesque say much more than some lady lying naked to look good to the viewer?

Also Eric Fischl's work doesn't make people seem grotesque, in my opinion anyways. I think he captures a side of people we don't regularly see, quite vulnerable but vigilant at the same time, they have life to them. That's just my own opinion anyways. :)

Marlene Dumas and Jenny Saville, queens of grotesque, I just like their aesthetics though. Try to reproduce Dumas' work and you'll have a very tough time, it seems so simple, yet its complicated!

Peter Doig creates a strong relationship between the figure and the space they are in, I find a lot of his paintings feel nostalgic, or reminiscent of photos I've seen.

What figurative contemporaries work do you enjoy?

>>2865029
Do you use linseed oil? It makes the drying time a lot quicker, but as in quick I mean a few days. Painting with oils is a process, work on one piece for a day or so, forget about it for 3, in the meantime you work on other stuff. It's almost better than painting with acrylic because often times you stumble upon something in one painting you'd like to add to another.

>>2863854
Study this photo I've attached, it's by my favorite artist, who you've already mentioned to another anon. The king of "raw" paintings (Jean-Michel Basquiat). Look at the use of complementary colors, use of white and black. You've got the rawness coming through your piece, but it lacks that last bit of "umph" before it's great. Also search the artist Howard Sherman on Instagram, he has some great artwork similar to this.

>>2864770
I like you, you're a knowledgeable person. You don't shun abstract, and understand the art world.

There's now a shift in the art world though. We're really moving back into figurative work, not traditional figurative per se, but figurative none the less. There's excellent contemporaries such as Eric Fischl, Jenny Saville, Marlene Dumas, Peter Doig, all super great figurative artists (worth checking out if interested).

>>2864701
Discipline. Discipline. Discipline.

You need to stick a bit closer to what you're doing and not get discouraged. All the things you said, are caused by being discouraged.

Push yourself to stick to whatever your subject is a bit more. Learn to push yourself, then you'll learn discipline.

Just practice, and stick to your work, and I'm sure you'll do fine. :)

>>2864921
The art world really isn't in an abstract place right now, figurative is back and bigger than ever. Like I said, shit-tier abstract doesn't do it anymore.

>>2864554
Abstract really isn't in now, and if people want to be abstract artists, they really have to push it, you can't just use oils and a canvas anymore.They have to use materials like car paint, and cardboard, or wood. Doing some spiral with their paint brushes really doesn't cut it.

And good for you dropping out and making progress, a lot of people learn differently and it's awesome to see someone with self-discipline enough to progress by themselves.

Also, mind sharing some of your ex-peers artwork?

>>2862405
I've come to learn that being on /ic/, I don't ever get insulted by what people say because it's very predictable, and often redundant.

I like the dedicated studio spaces, and they aren't ever very cramped except when people are rushing for deadlines. I get along with a lot of my peers and is the few places where I actually meet people I like talking to regularly. The teachers always depend on the class you take, I've heard some of the sculpture teachers aren't great and are hyper critical of student work, which is okay, with some context, but they often provide none. All my professors are excellent, very knowledgeable and push me and my peers to work hard and develop a discipline.

>>2862397
Meh, it's my money, I earned it, I can do what ever I like. You can't really dictate that. Thank you for the concern though.