/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.6147640]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>6127981

[Anonymous No.6147646]

You will never be japanese

[Anonymous No.6147648]

>>6147640
ill do my reps tomorrow

[Anonymous No.6147680]

>>6147646
why would I want to be?

[Anonymous No.6147781]

Random undead girl

[Anonymous No.6147784]

When drawabox said that I wouldn't be able to do this exercise properly, I thought I'd struggle. I didn't expect to total the fucking car and set it on fire, fuck.

[Anonymous No.6147786]

I tried to draw some heads. How bad are they?

[Anonymous No.6147792]

>>6147784
Wait fuck I posted this in the wrong thread.

[Anonymous No.6147793]

>>6147784
When doing perspective drawings work with a ruler please.

>>6147786
Somewhat okay in the sense that you can read them properly. They are not in good propotions and very western style though.

[Anonymous No.6147838]

>>6147792
By law you now need to post a drawing of a waifu

[Anonymous No.6147850]

>>6147838
Okay, here.

[Anonymous No.6148260]

>>6147646
i WILL be japanese

[Anonymous No.6148675]

>>6148260
>Go to Japan
>Fuck a lonely salarywoman
>Marry her
>Move back to US
>shit out baby
>Make kid choose Japanese citizenship at 22

You won't be japanese but your seed is now japanese.

[Anonymous No.6148766]

>>6147781
cute

[red faded hitoshi No.6148776]

>>6147646
I'm more Japanese than some other people

[Anonymous No.6149429]

>>6147640
Did a primitive Dorothy dance. Sound is available only to premium users

[Anonymous No.6149591]

Anyone know what filter is being applied to the photo background here? It looks very nice.

[Anonymous No.6150538]

>tfw anime drawing general is the slowest on a chinese cartoon image website

am i asian yet?

[Anonymous No.6150575]

>>6150538
I'd say you are at 1 step of being passable as a random pixiv beg
the section of the hair/head that is above the eyebrows is too tall, I get her face is long, but her forehead looks too long for what I'm used to see in the adult woman section of the animes

[Anonymous No.6150588]

Just discovered Kancolle and I think it's visually pretty cool. Any tips on drawing this stuff I should know about?

[Anonymous No.6150592]

>>6150588
yeah, try drawing it

[Anonymous No.6150600]

>>6150592
ok

[Anonymous No.6150623]

>>6150575
really i cant see it

[Anonymous No.6150630]

>>6150623
Not seeing it either. He's beg. Ignore him.

[Anonymous No.6150688]

at what point can I move on from copies to making my own stuff? I still feel way too intimidated to draw from imagination

[Anonymous No.6150696]

>>6150688
why not just do ref drawings?

[Anonymous No.6150699]

>>6150696
What if I can't find a ref that matches my idea?

[Anonymous No.6150705]

>>6150699
It doesn't have to fit your idea. You're not supposed to copy. That's why it's called a reference, you reference it.

[Anonymous No.6150709]

>>6150699
if u cant find a ref to match ur idea then how will u even do drawings from imagination? Like how will u draw things u've never seen before?

[Anonymous No.6150718]

>>6150705
What is the point of a ref I can't copy?
>>6150709
I don't know, how do people do this?

[Anonymous No.6150941]

>>6150718
They take refs from multiple things. A pose from one photo, hair from another, colors from a nice landscape pic, composition from movie screengrabs. There's a guy that spends every day making perfume bottles into character designs. Work like a concept artist with a shit ton of refs and you can make whatever idea you want. Things from the imagination always stem from reality in some way, so this is fine. Good luck friend

[Anonymous No.6151099]

>>6149591
either paint daubs or dry brush; both ought to work but it depends a bit on the resolution of the image you're feeding into it.

[Anonymous No.6151643]

>>6151099
Cool, thanks, I forgot that photoshop hid the artistic filters away in a different menu.

[Anonymous No.6151920]

How do i achieve this level of skill?

[Anonymous No.6151997]

>>6151920
Loomis

[Anonymous No.6152002]

>>6151920
take a lot of reference photo at your local elementary school

[Anonymous No.6152026]

WHEN DO I STOP MAKING COPIES AND START DRAWING MY OWN SHIT!!!!

[Anonymous No.6152038]

>>6152026
now, stop being afraid, and go draw your own fucking drawing now. finish it, and once you are done, reflect on your mistakes and study those things while still drawing your own things.

[Anonymous No.6152074]

>>6152026
first, you shouldnt just be copying but applying a method of info recall, thats how the brain truly learns and retains info, example would be copy from ref then redraw the ref from memory then compare and analyze and repeat the process once more, this will get you gains quicker

second, you should be doing your own stuff at same time as you practice, the ratio of this can depend on how much importance you give personal work vs study but as long as the personal work doesnt go beyond 50% of your art output you should be okay

[Anonymous No.6152144]

>>6152074
>first, you shouldnt just be copying but
Wrong. All mangaka learned to draw by copying everything they saw from childhood on

[Anonymous No.6152214]

[Anonymous No.6152220]

>>6152144
All mangaka use loomis lol

[Anonymous No.6152416]

/ASG/ I NEED YOUR HELP

[Anonymous No.6152427]

>>6152144
did you read the rest of my comment? i literally type how to properly copy and study from other artists retard

[Anonymous No.6152446]

does my legs look anime enough, i know it sounds like a stupid question, but i don't want them too look like western stuff that usually resembles a 3dp semi relistic leg
also rip Abe

[Anonymous No.6152454]

>>6152446
I think it'll vary by a lot depending on the artist and style used, but in any case you're definitely not anywhere near something that's "too realistically uncanny" given they're not very detailed. They're alright.

[Anonymous No.6152455]

>>6152446
Looks western to me

[Anonymous No.6152457]

>>6152144
>>6152455
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.6152464]

>>6152454
ummm i wanted something close to this
>>6152455
how

[Anonymous No.6152481]

>>6152464
Do you have counter-examples in mind? It's an important part of the equation here, to know exactly what you want to avoid. I get there's a big difference with the face, but for the body itself I think the difference between Western and Asian can sometimes overlap a bit, stylistically.

Like pic related (randomly picked from one of my folders) has pretty defined legs, and the art as a whole still doesn't look "western" to me, it works great. Change the face to something Western and the overall look would certainly feel quite different in return.
Another important point is whether you're painting or not. If you're doing lineart/cel-shading kind of work, it's easier for it to be feel more simplified and therefore less realistic.

Anyway I do feel like you're worrying too much.

[Anonymous No.6152508]

>>6151920
>>6151997
you joke but just knowing how to draw is barely half the skill needed to create something like that

[Anonymous No.6152518]

>>6152446
its fine, as long as it isnt disproportionately "thicc"

[Anonymous No.6152524]

>>6152464
body type and proportions isn't what you look for the east style. mostly just the face and hair

[Anonymous No.6152526]

>>6152508
Loomis teaches painting

[Anonymous No.6152536]

>>6152526
bait or not that is the most dumbfuck thing ive ever heard, if you think painting or art in general is as simple as where you can learn everything from one single source you are delusional

[Anonymous No.6152538]

>>6152481
yeah i know that when it comes to the body theres no much difference, but this kind of stylization is almost only a asian thing is borderline cartoonish but it does still have key parts of real anatomy but it doesnt look that close to real anatomy, this also makes it a little harder to deconstruct/study because is not as clear as a real body part to tell what is excatly what and from parts that are just stylized. this 2 pictures look simple but they are actually very intricate to understand.
when i attemp to try to replicate the style it looks too cartoonish or too realistic for my taste, 4 and 5 would be the realistc way what i want to avoid, and 1, 2, 3 are my attemps but they either look too simple or too close to ''realistic''.

[Anonymous No.6152540]

>>6152538
lol i forgot to flip it

[Anonymous No.6152544]

>>6152536
He has 14 books

[Anonymous No.6152568]

>>6152538
I think the biggest point seems to the be way the knee is stylized. Muscle definition has more to do with feminity vs. masculanity, and this is relevant even in an Atelier setting drawing from life, where you'll be taught not to define muscles and shadows too much on a young female as to not age or define her too much (unless it's the goal).
So say if you're drawing a sports manga about volleyball girls, you'll want something like 4 & 5 unless you're drawing moeblobs playing, since people who are into sports will be interested in seeing such details on your female figures. If you envision it I'm sure you can see what I'm trying to convey.

But anyway, I do get what you're saying because I have similar taste. I think learning the kind of ideal you have here asks you to go by a sort of "symbol drawing logic" similar to how certain features of the face have to be drawn depending on the view angle. It's something that is hard to teach because ultimately everyone develops their own way of going about it, and it gets harder when it comes to anime because what works for someone might end up being a bad habit to another.

I guess we just gotta draw lol.

[Anonymous No.6152571]

Sports legs example.

[Anonymous No.6152581]

I'm continuing this tomorrow, some feedback would be appreciated. She is supposed to look embarrassed. I'm not sure if the head looks too big.

[Anonymous No.6152594]

>>6152581
are the horns symmetric

[Anonymous No.6152597]

>>6152594
you are right, i need to change that horn. thank you.
even on the model looks weird

[Anonymous No.6152619]

>>6152597
maybe her horns are something like this

[Anonymous No.6152624]

>>6152581
if you're going for an expression of embarassment then i'd probably tilt the head down more, and change the eyes a little bit like this

[Anonymous No.6152628]

>>6152581
if you're going for an expression of embarassment then i'd probably tilt the head down more, and change the eyes a little bit like this

[Anonymous No.6152786]

i've seen that anime heads are pretty much modified loomis heads and that mostly also means that the sides of the base circle are cut/flattened, but is it always the case?

does that flattening happen in pic related? it seems to me like the artist doesn't do that. or am i just stupid?

[Anonymous No.6152886]

>>6152416
what up

[Anonymous No.6152888]

>>6152786
Of course that head has sides else it wont be a head my dude.
It's just emphasizing roundness for the loliness

[Anonymous No.6152898]

I tried this

[Anonymous No.6152906]

Tried this, how is it going so far?

[Anonymous No.6152928]

>>6152888
yeah i mean i know obviously there's sides but, if i were to draw something similar to this, should i skip flattening the side during construction? or maybe not flatten it as much?

[Anonymous No.6152940]

Tried giving it a shitty background

[Anonymous No.6153047]

>>6152928
Dude, stop overthinking it.

[Anonymous No.6153212]

>>6152628
>>6152619
thank you boys i see what i can do

[Anonymous No.6153225]

>>6152906
You really took beef curtains literally

[Anonymous No.6153308]

>>6153225
lmao.
that alien hand/wrist tho. if it were straightened out, it would be down past her knee or sum'n.

[Anonymous No.6153320]

>>6152906
Isn't the torso/tummy too short? It's bothering me. Also her right breast seems too high.

[Anonymous No.6153471]

>>6152940
Lmao thats literally a flat chest

[Anonymous No.6153504]

>>6149429
nigger

[Anonymous No.6153520]

>>6152898
>>6152906
>>6152940
looks really good ngl

[Anonymous No.6153655]

Is there anything that goes indepth on anime hair?

[Anonymous No.6153697]

>>6153655
check pin2d(pastebin)

[Anonymous No.6153708]

>>6153047
(thank you)

[Anonymous No.6153894]

>>6153697
think I found the vid, thanks

[Anonymous No.6153897]

>>6153708
stay beg

[Anonymous No.6153944]

is there a name for this method of coloring/shading? the artist is @BARD713

[Anonymous No.6153945]

>>6153320
I think that's just the perspective but the head angle fucks it a bit

[Anonymous No.6153959]

>>6153225
>>6153308
Thanks, I referenced this photo but it looks like it doesn't translate well to 2D or I don't have the skills to make it work yet, I'll get rid of it.

[Anonymous No.6154016]

>>6153655
the paryi book on hair

[Anonymous No.6154047]

>>6154016
found it, thanks

[Anonymous No.6154050]

>>6153959
I'm the bottom one and I was just teasing. You did good and I saw it as a hand at first...
but, I'm pretty sure it's her right hand and the photo makes it obvious because her left hand goes straight down farther than in your sketch.
Actually, it looks like you had it right, but erased it and made her arm die into her body higher up.

[Anonymous No.6154055]

>>6154050
Oh god.. I described right and left based on looking at the picture and not from her perspective.
Please forgive me.

[Anonymous No.6154072]

>>6154055
Thanks I am now thoroughly confused

[Anonymous No.6154075]

>>6153320
looks decent to me, except for the screen tones
try making the canvas and resolution bigger if you're going to use one
someone from /asg/ taught me picrel

[Anonymous No.6154090]

>>6153945
>>6154075
Just to clarify I'm not the original artist, I made an edit of his drawing since the torso felt too short for my taste.
I do like it better this way but I don't know if it's objectively good per se.

[Anonymous No.6154094]

>>6153944
I'm pretty sure it comes from a certain artist who died, then copycats emerged. Sorry too lazy to dig the name.

[Anonymous No.6154095]

>>6153944
>>6154094
I found him, 焦茶.

[Anonymous No.6154099]

>>6154075
it warms the cockles of my heart that you saved my lil image. im glad it helped.

[Anonymous No.6154100]

>>6154075
Thanks, but regarding the resolution it is already huge, it's something like 2800x4000, do I have to make it even bigger?

[Anonymous No.6154115]

>>6152906
>>6153308
>>6153959
it's her left hand (from her perspective) covering her snatch and not her right. if you made her right hand on her hip or something it would break the weird illusion that she has an extendo wrist. additionally your perspective is off a bit for her shoulders, you squared them up a little bit too much. also I'd recommend you define the fingers in the crotch area more since that's one of the main focal areas, meaning you want it to look as good as possible.
i also added in her left elbow to make it even more readable, it might not be 100% anatomically correct but I feel it helps the drawing more than hurts
overall advice to you is that you can't be afraid to change up your ref to make things more readable
other than all that you've done a really good job, keep up the good work anon

[Anonymous No.6154119]

>>6154099
oh shit so it was you, really like your art style
and also thanks
yeah its been helpful ever since but it'll take me years to get to heart gear's author level of screen tone mastery

[Anonymous No.6154130]

>>6154100
instead of just increasing the width and length try also adjusting the "resolution"
600 dpi is a good start for applying screen tones

[Anonymous No.6154138]

>>6154100
your res is fine, your image is struggling because you are mixing two different methods of achieving tone, your line art brush is heinous and is producing greys. where as your screen tones are black, also avoid erasing at the screen tone layer, to achieve a gradient, draw the gradient in full-tone then convert it.

pic rel: notice the shift in dot frequency on her shoulder.

I elaborated the method here: >>6154075

[Anonymous No.6154153]

>>6154099
blog pls?

[Anonymous No.6154192]

>>6154153
@Treellaux

[Anonymous No.6154194]

little progress today. Again, any feedback is welcome. Specially on the rendering. Is this too much? should i simplify it?

[Anonymous No.6154197]

>>6154194
the horns and ears feels off
as for the rendering, some parts are way too bright

[Anonymous No.6154198]

>>6147640
trying to render armpit

[Anonymous No.6154203]

>>6154198
nice pits

[Anonymous No.6154243]

>>6154115
Why did you redline a micro dick anon?

[Anonymous No.6154279]

>>6147640
Any good book about drawing manga, especially about paneling?

[Anonymous No.6154369]

>>6154203
>>6154198
Open up the pit

[Anonymous No.6154386]

Style practice

[Anonymous No.6154414]

>>6154192
Oh I remember you from /mmg/
Good stuff. Do you mainly use real-g pen for your lineart?

[Anonymous No.6154415]

>>6154194
i know ur not a master anon but how did u get started learning to paint like this
im very lost with painting/rendering since all i studied was pen and ink

[Anonymous No.6154428]

are legs too long or is there something else wrong, because i cant shake the feeling that something is really wrong with the torse and/or leg length

[Anonymous No.6154503]

Are there any in depth step by step guides on how to shade the hip area? This confuses me a lot.

[Anonymous No.6154615]

How do I this... whatever it is called - red, green and blue peaking out on side of the lineart. Do you have some tutorial for csp for this and why is it used?

Also, how do I practice hair? Hair is killing me. I get mad every time I remember that people "have fun" drawing hair.

[Anonymous No.6154640]

>>6154075
I don't get it. Where is "layer properties"?

[Anonymous No.6154751]

some anon shared saito's tl'd book from another thread
thought might be useful here

>>6154419
>https://mega.nz/file/LWxD
>VJCA#Fa4GZe6GdVurq8c8_JhocEVvhOxbETLq_c8oxwZI3QM

[Anonymous No.6154753]

>>6154615
Google rgb split and chromatic aberation some people feel it looks nice other people hate it it takes a second to add to art I don't use csp but if you can find the rgb channels and move the red and blue ones a little diagonally away from each other that's all you have to do

[Anonymous No.6154759]

>>6154751

[Anonymous No.6154760]

>>6154751
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.6154761]

>>6154751
In case anyone is curious, this is a self-help book for struggling artists, not an art book

[Anonymous No.6154818]

>>6154751
weeboos will add this to their pile, then cry out when they still haven't made it a month later

[Anonymous No.6154923]

>>6154197
i honestly don't know how to draw them, well i'm going to try to change them. Thank you anon.
>>6154415
Mostly from this course CGMA The art of color and light with Marco Bucci. I just recently started trying to draw anime, but i usually draw very “painterly”.

[Anonymous No.6155016]

>>6154759

[Anonymous No.6155045]

I'm still struggling to find my style, this is hell...

[Anonymous No.6155047]

>>6154751
is it?

[Anonymous No.6155082]

>>6154759

[Anonymous No.6155148]

>>6154386
>Style

[Anonymous No.6155253]

>>6154751
dead

[Anonymous No.6155281]

Testing the screentone thing

[Anonymous No.6155287]

sometimes I just want to give up..

[Anonymous No.6155343]

>>6155287
how tf is that reimu? looks more like Mokou if anything.

[Anonymous No.6155374]

>>6155287
>AI renders with 100x more soul then me
Buullshit

[Anonymous No.6155421]

>>6154759
It's over

[Anonymous No.6155519]

>>6154759

[Anonymous No.6155625]

>>6154615
Chromatic aberration is entirely because of lens imperfections, which modern ones have very little of. It’s more to emulate older lenses but people just kinda use it whenever, sometimes for style alone, and combined blur/noise to sell an effect.

>>6154751
Ebin

Just rendered this piece, very happy with the cloth, though the lines need to be deleted here and there, fixed for more flow but I’ll do that for the next piece, for now, I think I’ve got a workflow going.

Thanks for reading my blog kek.

[Anonymous No.6155628]

>>6154761
Oh, well that’s disappointing. Back to the sigma grindset, anons.

[Anonymous No.6155633]

>>6154428
Tiny hands,maybe slightly short arms, other proportions look ok.

[Anonymous No.6155678]

I've been ADHD sketching the past few days, hopefully I'm not copying too recklessly

[Anonymous No.6155714]

>>6155281
Cool.

[Anonymous No.6155762]

>>6154414
actually I use this kid.

[Anonymous No.6155808]

>>6154761
it is a guide for deliberate practice regarding character drawing

[Anonymous No.6155813]

>>6155287
*supermoves intensifies*

[Anonymous No.6155961]

>>6155762
Fugg nta but that's nostalgic, used to draw with a brush pen on my notebooks when I used to idolize KJG back in college. Guess I'll try to find me something similar for digital.

[Anonymous No.6156070]

What is my main problem?

[Anonymous No.6156077]

>>6156070
You haven't read any loomis books yet
Get to it

[Anonymous No.6156078]

>>6156070
Draftsmanship. Use Drawabox exercises (part one)

[Anonymous No.6156132]

>>6155762
Oh nice, time to try that out

[Anonymous No.6156192]

>>6155253
>anonfiles
>.com/
>1eUd8ewey4/gitgud_at_illustration_guide_for_anons_pdf

[Anonymous No.6156264]

Couple of copies

[Anonymous No.6156266]

>>6156264

[Anonymous No.6156267]

>>6156266

[Anonymous No.6156297]

>>6156266
I still don't understand how to get from step 2 to 3. Any resources/vids?

[Anonymous No.6156308]

>>6156297
Don't know any actually.

[Anonymous No.6156311]

>>6156297
Nta but try searching for terms like edge control in painting. Notice how the edges in 2 and 3 are completely different. For 2 most of the edges are hard but in 3 some are soft some are hard and some has completely disappeared.

[Anonymous No.6156312]

Reminder to do daily croquis for an hour

[Anonymous No.6156348]

[Anonymous No.6156366]

>>6156348
nice desu ne

[Anonymous No.6156477]

Best Japanese books for /beg/s? I'm tired of 3 months of drawabox, loomis and doodling.

[Anonymous No.6156479]

>>6156477
Depends on what you want to practice.

In general I would recommend hitokaku though

[Anonymous No.6156485]

>>6156477
wonder what youre gonna say when you see that japanese books teach loomis construction lmao

[Anonymous No.6156492]

>>6156477
"japanese books" are literally rehashes of loomis and bridgman

[Anonymous No.6156498]

>>6156492
>>6156485
loomis drones in asg
baka my head

[Leaf Gecko Madagascar No.6156536]

How does Grand Blue Fantasy get such pretty and smooth artwork? My artwork looks very harsh. And I'm not that good with the brush. Any tips.

[Leaf Gecko Madagascar No.6156604]

oops fixed

[Anonymous No.6156645]

I had to put it in special order to get this. But I had to drive to the bookstore it was reserved and I went to pick it up.

[Anonymous No.6156875]

>>6155762
>>6156132
Drew abit with it today, really nice pen for monochrome

[Anonymous No.6156982]

How do i improve my pulse for curves?
My attempt at curves (top part) suck and has 0 precision.
Check both hairs on the bottom part. These curves are perfect, flow without any trembling and have surgeon-tier precision.

The left one has long curve pairs that are super close to each other, creating long thin locks of hair. Super fine pairs of curves that create fine locks of hair too.

The right one has lots of curve pairs of almost the SAME size, creating lots of locks of hair of equal size, also super fine locks.

It's a critical skill to draw anime hair and i lack it.

[Anonymous No.6156984]

Details apart, is the body of this drawing proportioned? If feels so weird to me... but I cannot figure what is giving me this feelings. Any help? I would love to figure the problem so I'll improve on the next one. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.6157005]

>>6156984
the arms are too long overall, and the two upper arms are not equal length, and the forearms are much too long relative to the upper arm. in a T pose, human wingspan is equal to our height, and elbows are halfway from breastbone to fingertips.

the lengths of fingertips to elbow = elbow to breastbone = elbow to base of skull if arms at side = heel to base of knee = base knee to hip bone = 1/4th height.
and this should hold true whether a character is 5 heads tall or 10 heads tall.

[Anonymous No.6157020]

>>6157005
Thank you! The arms are indeed way too long now that you make me notice it. One last thing, is the torso good then? It feel a little bit "outstretched" but I could be wrong. Thank you again!

[Anonymous No.6157065]

>>6156982
Draw me a couple parallel diagonal lines, slowly, optionally with a physical ruler.

[Anonymous No.6157066]

>>6156498
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6157077]

Trying more concept-y stuff, any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6157118]

Anyone knows an anime artist who paints

[Anonymous No.6157153]

bros, is this anime enough?

[Anonymous No.6157157]

>>6157153
yes
but the forehead's too long

[Anonymous No.6157170]

I went full autist at 2 in the morning yesterday.

[Anonymous No.6157172]

[Anonymous No.6157179]

>>6155045
same i want to draw in too many styles
>>6156477
wtf, you are supposed to balance your common drawings and studies
>>6156536
nice sketch
>>6156982
with practice and sometimes using a soft eraser

[Anonymous No.6157185]

>>6157157
shit you are definitely right, i wonder why i didnt see that obvius mistake and this is happening a lot i cant trust my eyes anymore

[Anonymous No.6157205]

reading loomis

[Anonymous No.6157206]

>>6156982
Can you do it good on paper?

[Anonymous No.6157212]

>>6157065
Might i ask why want that anon to do that? Anyone can use a ruler to do parallel lines, i don't see how it is related to his issue.
I can do a somewhat better attempt at hair than him but was wondering if there was some kind of exercise to improve even more.

[Anonymous No.6157229]

>>6157185
yeah but its pretty decent better than my piece, just make some adjustments

[Leaf Gecko Madagascar No.6157327]

>>6157179
thx anon

[Anonymous No.6157361]

>>6157229
thanks, i lowered the hair level and fixed some distortion in the eyes i think it is okay now

[Anonymous No.6157369]

>>6157361
tried some kind of rendering too but i dont know... now looks western maybe?, wonder how long till i see this piece as a bad drawing

[Anonymous No.6157408]

>>6157361
>>6157369
It looks perfectly anime to me

[Anonymous No.6157413]

>>6150538

[Anonymous No.6157437]

>>6157361
I really like it. it feels really effortless.
not over worked like
>>6156348

[Anonymous No.6157507]

>>6154751
is this garbage just the same as his video talk about copying somebody for a couple months?
motherfucker was a professional illustrator at 19, and has the gall to try and try and do a /beg/ progress before and after of his ``miraculous improvement'' when he had been working in the industry for a couple decades.
i hate him so much it's unreal.

[Anonymous No.6157528]

>>6157369
>now looks western maybe?
I think you went a bit overboard with the shadow on the face/lips but it's not that bad.
Your style reminds me a bit of Mamoru Nagano.

[Anonymous No.6157545]

>>6157507
You should really direct your energy elsewhere instead of hating a book. I also thought his course wasnot possible for begs at first, but looking at the before/after of his students in the book, some were permabeg tier before using the method
>it was all cherry picked / fake
Nothing in life is real. Not like his method is anything groundbreaking anyway. Just study and study and study for hours everyday but with a clear goal in mind, and he actually advises against copying

[Anonymous No.6157891]

which words to use to search livestreams of illustrators drawing?

[Anonymous No.6157910]

How to avoid this? I want to have each layer in a folder to have it's own property but if I have them inside a folder with it's own layer property it overrides everything inside it.

[Anonymous No.6157913]

>>6157891
I sure hope you aren't going to bother japanese streamers..
Every time I open jap streams I see stupid weebs talk to them in english with fucking awkward shit its embarassing

[Anonymous No.6157915]

>>6157910
That's not a thing, show an example where it does that in your opinion.

[Anonymous No.6157917]

>>6157910
set the folder blending mode to "Through"

[Anonymous No.6157924]

>>6157917
Thanks that fixed it!

[Anonymous No.6157938]

>>6157910
Set the folder to through mode

[Anonymous No.6157942]

>>6157913
no, if I want to annoy people I go to other places

[Anonymous No.6157944]

>>6157942
Just go on pixiv live then
https://sketch.pixiv.net/lives

[Anonymous No.6158362]

mochizuki kei study.
was mainly focused on trying to imitate her line work but it didn't turn out so well. turns out that it isn't as simple as using thick lines for the contours and thinner lines for the details inside.

[Anonymous No.6158396]

>>6158362
I understand you were focused on the line style, but in the process you seem to have forgotten about the underlying 3D forms. The chest and skirt areas in yours are flat and the wrinkles don't make sense.

It's also necessary to understand why thin or thick lines are used. A thicker line will imply clothes wrinkling more due to folding onto itself, etc.
Give this a watch it just came out and is pretty relevant to the exercise you just did and should give you good insight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVAyBj7Ho5I

[Anonymous No.6158421]

>>6158396
i see thanks so much for your advice!

[Anonymous No.6158492]

>>6147793
>When doing perspective drawings work with a ruler please
Shaky hand poster

[Anonymous No.6158502]

>>6154115
baaaaad

[Anonymous No.6158579]

>>6158502
pyw

[Anonymous No.6158690]

>>6157408
>>6157437
thanks
>>6157528
>Your style reminds me a bit of Mamoru Nagano.
just checked out his stuff, pretty cool mechas and very stylized human drawings, i really like pic related

[Leaf Gecko Madagascar No.6158962]

Why are aprons so hard. anything you don't like let me know.

[Leaf Gecko Madagascar No.6158965]

>>6158962
Also is there like a doujinshi guide. the blue lines in CSP don't crop at the white boarder

[Anonymous No.6159165]

>>6158962
you could define more the body shape, but even as it is righht now is fine because it blends well with your style, the eyes are a bit derpy, you could add some volume to the back of her head and lower the ear aside from that it looks fine, is she dropping that pot? it would be odd to grab the spoon and hold the pot at the same time also that nip should be at that angle

[Leaf Gecko Madagascar No.6159205]

>>6159165
agreed, thanks, i always tend to make the eyes derpy and i think i was getting inpatient before i had to quit today. i'll try to think of something for the bowl and spoon. i draw everything in pen and pencil, but i'd like to explore a more cute and soft look for my drawings someday.

[Anonymous No.6159210]

>>6157917
nta, but I didn't know this either. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.6159270]

pretty bad attemp of coloring.

[Anonymous No.6159300]

>>6159270
Is it just me or a lot of beginners' anime faces look off especially in the 3/4 angle because the cheek on the far end always protrudes more than it should?

But then I have seen pro artists pulling it off like picrel and it still looks cute. I don't get it, can someone explain this stuff to me?

[Anonymous No.6159302]

>>6159300
Cheek is lower and face is leaning

[Anonymous No.6159318]

>>6159302
Huh, makes sense. This is so abitrary though, I have to redraw the contour of the face over and over again each time even when copying to get it right. Is there really no rule to it other than redrawing until it looks right?

[Anonymous No.6159391]

I tried to color my Megumin, how is this?

[Anonymous No.6159400]

>>6159318
The more comfortable you get with the general human facial structure the more it will make sense I feel. It's stylized but there is order to it.

[Anonymous No.6159551]

>>6159391
It's a bit dirty on some parts take care of that. You tried to grasp the 3d form that's good. But always be aware of the light source. I'm pretty sure that rib shadow shouldn't be a thing.
Also another thing I heard a while back is to try and shade simple as a beginner and not overdo it with the blurring and airbrushing. See picture related, very simple but efficient shading.

[Anonymous No.6159558]

>>6159551
Thanks, I got overly ambitious with the shading and think I started getting carried away and making shit up at the end.

[Anonymous No.6159574]

>>6156348
hot

[Anonymous No.6159576]

>>6156348
do you have a link or a collection of your past works? i want to fap

[Anonymous No.6159607]

.

[Anonymous No.6159631]

>>6159551
The shading here is actually quite elaborate, it's just not obvious because of the lack of contrast on her skin. Try desaturating it and checking.
>>6159391
I think the idea is there overall. I would make the base a bit lighter, the blush less pronounced, blur/remove some of the hard shadow around the hips, abs and pelvis. Also i personally like to add a very light gradient/airbrush job as a second layer of base, it seems to give the skin more life.
Overall, once again, you definitely got the basic process (at least as far as i understand it anyway).

[Anonymous No.6159638]

>>6159607
Pretty good, but redo the left side breast clothing maybe. It looks off I think.

[Anonymous No.6159646]

>>6159607
amazing, holy shit

[Anonymous No.6159667]

>>6159638
ah ye, you might be right lad. I was having real hard time with that since the client decided to change the design of the boob cloth midway. ill try and make it match the other one somehow.
cheers!

[Anonymous No.6159697]

>>6159667
How much did you charge for a piece like that?

[Anonymous No.6159742]

Copy

[Anonymous No.6159743]

>>6159742
And a sketch for it

[Anonymous No.6159792]

How do I into anime head construction?
What's a good source? I feel like there's too many to pick.

[Anonymous No.6159795]

>>6159742
>>6159743
>goes from happy to suffering
why, anon. also which brush are you using? it looks nice

[Anonymous No.6159826]

>>6159795
>goes from happy to suffering

No, it goes from suffering to happy, sketch was first surprisingly. The brush is standart round one.

[Anonymous No.6159840]

butt

[Anonymous No.6159843]

>>6159742
I will now copy your copy.

[Anonymous No.6159845]

>>6159576
no soz <3

[Anonymous No.6159853]

>>6159843
Better copy the original one, it is claimed to be AI generated btw.

[Anonymous No.6160030]

>>6159853
>>6159742
Even your copy looks uncanny as hell. The point is to use the AI shit to draw something that makes sense not mindlessly copying, otherwise just copy a competent artist, jesus, you AI faggots are so dumb it's unreal

[Anonymous No.6160040]

>>6160030
Give one example loser. Stfu

[Anonymous No.6160142]

>>6159300
The face looks pretty average to mediocre in my opinion. Tbh i struggled more with the hands.

Btw I feel like a fish out the water in this thread maybe I should've post this in /beg/ not here. But it's a bit boring being and eternal /beg/.

[Anonymous No.6160152]

>>6160142
Image of what kind of face I had in mind.

Yes.. I know it doesn't see anything like what I made.

[Anonymous No.6160178]

>>6160142
If you like anime and manga. It's best to post here. /beg/ and /salt/ are not following the same drawings and will most likely ignore you. That's what happens to me.

[Anonymous No.6160195]

How do I draw a pillow? a bed?

[Anonymous No.6160234]

>>6158962

Tried to make a video helping ya out, i think holding the pen in an "artists grip" and feeling the form before setting down the lines might help you get a more 3d feel for the frills.

Here's the full 3min video (76mb mind you, i couldn't figure out how to make it smaller)
https://files.catbox.moe/fg4hfo.mov

[Anonymous No.6160236]

>>6160234
>>6158962

tutorial I used

[Anonymous No.6160282]

give me your worst

[Anonymous No.6160313]

>>6160195
Reference

>>6160282
Resize before posting please.
Also the head is way too big.

[Anonymous No.6160315]

>>6159607
Really sexy, definitely needs some shading/lighting to help the bows read but that's a really great design, nice work.

[Anonymous No.6160326]

>>6160282
Worst what?

[Anonymous No.6160333]

>>6159607
Thats fucking beautiful and cute, nice color picks

[Anonymous No.6160442]

>>6160234
wtf wwith that mega lag

[Anonymous No.6160500]

>>6160442
he probably has his stability turned up high

[Anonymous No.6160514]

>>6160500
>relaying on stability
weak bitch ass nigga

[Anonymous No.6160551]

>>6160234
that's a painful amount of stabilization

[Anonymous No.6160556]

>>6160234
>All that stabilization only to get beg lines
why?

[Anonymous No.6160622]

>>6160234
>artist grip
What? Isn't that just a normal tripod

[Anonymous No.6160635]

>>6160551

then explain how to get smooth lines in clip studio paint cause i literally cant get good lines digitally

it's all chickenscratch (pic related) without 100 stabilization, so I'm wondering if there are some exercises I can do to improve my line quality? Maybe stretches to have less shaky hands?

[Anonymous No.6160638]

>>6160635
what do you lines look like traditionally

[Anonymous No.6160642]

>>6160638

I guess this

[Anonymous No.6160675]

>>6160635
>100 stabilization
What? Mine look unnatural as hell even at 5

[Anonymous No.6160693]

>>6160635
it's not your hands digital is more sensitive stabilizer is there to straighten it out otherwise it'd be insanely jittery and well you'd have to play the ctrl z spam minigame

[Anonymous No.6160705]

>>6155678
First time I've added color to anything

[Anonymous No.6160749]

>>6160635
swift strong confident strokes pendejo.

there are 13 stroke on the left shoulder alone. look at the ear, 8 motions to get a round shape. just draw the shape.

[Anonymous No.6160766]

>>6160234
this is the worst thing I have ever seen, why the fuck are you holding your pen like this. that grip is used when you are drawing perpendicular to a canvas so you can use your elbow (nor wrist) to manipulate the pencil, its gestural and useful for larger scale, its has ZERO use on a horizontal lying tablet with your dunning kruger hands craning over it awkwardly.

[Anonymous No.6160787]

>>6160635
>100 stabilization
wtf is wrong with you
use your shoulder
I did picrel with 0 stab.

[Anonymous No.6160819]

>>6160705
torso seems a bit long. Other than that I want to lick that tummy and then mating press her <3 ;)

[Anonymous No.6160824]

I did cosplay Asuka

Forget the damn eyebrows fuck

[Anonymous No.6160832]

>>6160824
where the FUCK is my lad shinji???
he needs to be there in the foreground looking at asuka damnit

[Anonymous No.6160880]

>>6160832
nobody likes shinji and he shouldn't be anywhere.

[Anonymous No.6160919]

>>6160880
that's a ngmi answer

[Leaf Gecko Madagascar No.6160969]

>>6159165
>>6160234
>>6160236
Thanks, i had time today to change alot about this image. the tutorial helped and made it fun to actually draw the apron. and i'm finally starting to feel comfortable with drawing on digital

[Anonymous No.6160979]

>>6160234
>that stabilization setting
Nigger what the fuck are you doing

[Anonymous No.6160981]

>>6160969
Looking a lot more confident, nice.

[Anonymous No.6161097]

>>6160979
looks like he's drawing, something you're not doing.

[Anonymous No.6161107]

>>6161097
>something you're not doing
look who's talking

[Anonymous No.6161141]

I summon you velvet crow makima and miku fag

[Anonymous No.6161165]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO8ovi5hkpY

Beginners feel free to try this

[Anonymous No.6161218]

i feel like i stagnated, how do i break out from drawing the same sort of lines and such?

[Anonymous No.6161227]

>>6161218
Change things up with a new brush or medium or something. Maybe try a new method like blind contour drawing or Tim Gula's automatic drawing technique.

[Anonymous No.6161331]

Are there any good guides on how to paint hair? I feel like I am getting the hang of drawing hair but when trying to study rendering my brain just can't handle all the brush strokes and I can't make sense of what is happening.

[Anonymous No.6161362]

>>6160282
Don't mean this in a bad way, but it'd fit more in >>6153244

[Anonymous No.6161417]

>>6160315
>render
all right here you go man.

[Anonymous No.6161526]

>>6161417
looks great, where's the first place to learn how to render anime?

[Anonymous No.6161546]

>>6161417

[Anonymous No.6161548]

>>6161165
Just found out that every single head I draw is too small. Nice.

[Anonymous No.6161826]

Don't forget to practice drawing old men /a/nons.

[Anonymous No.6161886]

i wanna force myself to finish something for once, where do I even start with rendering?

[Anonymous No.6161900]

>>6161886
Well the first part is picking a light source. Then you can draw in cast shadows for example

[Anonymous No.6161914]

>>6161886

[Anonymous No.6161916]

>>6161914
That is a pretty rough way of shading for beginners my dude not sure why you would recommend that.
It doesn't even explain whats going on after step 4 where it gets less obvious.

[Anonymous No.6161924]

>>6161900
how do you pick the base color and then the hue for shading?
>>6161914
did he use gradient maps? i got lost at key colors, what layer mode did he use?
i hope someone translates the rendering tutorials from the Japanese vtuber I watch...i wanna learn the secrets of the masters

[Anonymous No.6161931]

>>6161924
Depends on what you want to shade. You might be off well just stealing your colors from other people at first.

>i hope someone translates the rendering tutorials from the Japanese vtuber I watch

Link?

[Anonymous No.6161936]

I also don't know how to color lmao

[Anonymous No.6161941]

>>6161931
>Depends on what you want to shade. You might be off well just stealing your colors from other people at first.
i am stealing colors from mignon right now, lol.
>Link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGy-HV45JWg&t=10s
her channel is dedicated to teaching how to render, the results look so good. I think someone that knows the basics and isn't low IQ like me can understand what's happening.

[Anonymous No.6161944]

>>6152446
Each Japanese artists draws legs so differently. Some draw them super thick and some draw them highly detailed. Your bigger concern is can you learning to draw enough to know how to simplify.

[Anonymous No.6161956]

>>6161886
>>6161936
Good lineart is also very important to the impact of a picture just on a sidenote

[Anonymous No.6161960]

>>6161924
>>6161916
I posted that one cause the ones that explain it better are even more off putting for beginner

if you cant figure it out just use a base color with one or two multiply layers and an overlay for highlights until your ready to actually color

[Anonymous No.6161965]

>>6161956
thanks! but the Korone's is a rough sketch, still fixing some stuff before I add the lineart, I just kinda wanna plan ahead the colors

[Anonymous No.6162028]

>>6161960
What exactly is he doing in step 5. How do you "turn up the saturation" in an overlay layer?

[Anonymous No.6162190]

>>6161941
i've been drawing for 2 years and i still don't understand how to render like that.

[Anonymous No.6162270]

>>6161417
Fucking gorgeous anon, love it! Very instructive too seeing base to render, appreciate that.

[Anonymous No.6162383]

>>6162028
He's just using a bright colored brush and going over anything that looks gross. You can try it yourself if you put the image from step 5 into photoshop or whatever, put an overlay layer over it, and then play around with some very saturated versions of the colors that are in that area already.

[Anonymous No.6162384]

>>6162383
Whoops I meant the image from step 4*

[Anonymous No.6162502]

watched some basic value tutorials i think i am going to reference artists I like, shame that to this day we still don't have the definitive ''how to render animu 101'' tutorial
>>6162190
2 years is nothing anon, most artists are still drawing how to draw manga tier monstrosities at that point, I have been drawing for 2 years too and I still suck.

[Anonymous No.6162516]

>>6161526
https://www.notion.so/krenz-color-new-week-1-026666f8bf7d4cb4815d111b016daeee"

I would recommend how colors work by doing paintings manually picking all the colors yourself from life and from other paintings first. Marco Bucci's videos on Ambient Occlusion and Ambient Shadow colors are basically all you need to understand how colors desaturate/saturate and shift hue depending on the lighting.
Once you understand this, you can use Krenz's process to setup the ambient color of the shadows (Multiply) and the color of the main light (Color Dodge). You start of using desaturated colors first, and then use separate layer like Overlay to add saturation variation into the skin and other parts. After this, you'll notice certain materials like gold and the diamonds I painted wont look right, so then you pull up ref of those materials and manually adjust the colors for those by painting on a Normal layer above the other ones (at this stage you can also repaint areas,smooth/sharpen up things as well).
Hope that helps.

[Anonymous No.6162598]

>>6162516
>https://www.notion.so/krenz-color-new-week-1-026666f8bf7d4cb4815d111b016daeee"
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://www.notion.so/Krenz-Persp-Course-d6ccbb782cc743abb0b47d8105791420
Krenz Perspective Course in English
THANKS ANON!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.6162607]

>>6162516
not that anon but this >>6162598 thanks bro didnt know that was in english, pretty good painting too, hope you keep posting in this general

[Anonymous No.6162621]

>krenz
ouch
big true

[Anonymous No.6162633]

>>6162621
holy based

[Anonymous No.6162637]

>>6162383
nta but I was confused since I tried with white without good success so thanks.
That explains the purple on her hair in the back.

[Anonymous No.6162807]

>>6161417
Okay that is tight. Very nice.

[Anonymous No.6162983]

>>6162621
>not decided by your genes
permabeg bros... what excuse we have left?

[Anonymous No.6162988]

>>6162987 Migrate

[Anonymous No.6162990]

>>6162989 Migrate

[Anonymous No.6164080]

>>6149429
faggot