/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3662105]

Ignoring the political message, I don’t know why anybody would use such awful art in their campaigns. Isn’t the idea of political art is to persuade the viewer with well drawn material?

[Anonymous No.3662111]

>>3662105

well-drawn art evokes a sense of whiteness, which must be abolished. ugly, poorly-drawn art is more representational of aboriginal peoples, people of color, and non-ableism.

[Anonymous No.3662112]

>>3662105
boo

[Anonymous No.3662113]

Usually a case where ideology informs style. Consequence of egalitarist or postmodern ideas. Quality is just a social construct, yo.

Kind of how tumblr is about inclusivity, body positivity etc. and therefore everything is blobby, stretch mark ridden and deformed.

[Anonymous No.3662148]

>>3662105
Leftist ideologies are for resentful losers and useless parasites. They hate successful people, and they hate everything beautiful. So their art is just like them, lazy garbage.

[Anonymous No.3662149]

>>3662105
>booger in her nose
kek

[Anonymous No.3662156]

>>3662148
Nicely put. What a horrible time to be an artist this is.

[Anonymous No.3662172]

>>3662148
>>3662156
>ideology
Nah. Nice strawman though.

Did you have a good halloween?

[Anonymous No.3662186]

>>3662172
>Freedom to assassinate those we don't like.
Wow, didn't knew far left NPCs existed back then!

[Anonymous No.3662204]

Kinda this >>3662148

Someone who is half-assed about college enough to get involved into political agenda following rather than studying to become the best professional they can is sure to not have what it takes to become a competent artist, which is always a fucking soul-crushint chore.

[Anonymous No.3662228]

>>3662148
What is it with alt-righters blaming literally everything on the "leftist" boogeyman? I'm a crazy nutty marxist communist and I'll tell you people are as disappointed in the state of modern art from where I'm standing as they are from where you are.

[Anonymous No.3662238]

>>3662228
>>3662148
There are some good leftist pieces of art, such as the USSR posters for example. Just like their are some shitty right wing pieces such as Ben Garrison. My point was why should people with little to no artistic talent be allowed to produce political artwork. The fact of the matter is, if you want somebody to agree with you. You’ll need to make something worthwhile that interests the viewer. Making something like OP will just get you mocked.

[Anonymous No.3662249]

>>3662238
I think it has to do with the general decline of artistic technical skill in universities. Self-indulgent, rich, students focus on expressing themselves and decorating themselves instead of creating proficiently crafted works and as such fewer skilled artists graduate. With fewer skilled artists out there, but with an increasing demand for political art, there's going to be a lot of bad political artists. This varies depending on country and education system of course.

[Anonymous No.3662273]

>>3662186
But that's the best part

[Anonymous No.3662309]

>>3662172
Nice comic. I added the original dialog.

[Anonymous No.3662433]

>>3662238
>USSR posters for example.
Only the best were allowed to make art

[Anonymous No.3662469]

>>3662111
>>3662113
>>3662148
Fucking agreed. Especially in leftie campaigns, they usually use some shitty "ethnic artist" who can only make crude paintings of deformed people. It's a mixture of the artist just fucking sucking, not wanting to adhere to common beauty standards, and not wanting to improve cause muh message. I noticed this whenever google celebrates some literal who minority artist, it's the same crude ugly shit. I can only speak for America though.

[Anonymous No.3662472]

Where did you get it has to be "well drawn" to carry a message?
It's ugly, but I get where is coming from.
The style resemble south american murals, usually reivindicatory and nationalistic, made in secret during the night. And since non whites draw too, and they can participate in politics, what an outrageous thing I know, the message is directly speaking to them.

[Anonymous No.3662487]

>>3662273
all of these things are correct except that nazis were socialists

[Anonymous No.3662508]

>>3662469
I think this “leftists are shit” thing is an oversimplification and tend to agree with >>3662249 about the over abundance of unskilled and untrained artist. For every shitty leftists propaganda poster, there is a poorly drawn right leaning political cartoon, or crudely traced Pepe’s over political figures faces. Whether it’s for cultural inclusivity or irony and keks, both sides have people intentionally creating ugly, poorly done political artwork.

I do agree that the right tends to be more rational and deal with reality more directly than the left, which makes the balance lean slightly more towards the right having better draughtsmanship, but the lefts focus on emotion leads to their work evoking said emotion more. Unfortunately actual well done art is the marriage between the emotional appeals and intellectual knowledge, leaving both sides lacking. Ethos, logos and pathos, anon, it’s all important. I would suggest you to read the introduction to The Practice and Science of Drawing by Harold Speed, as he did a much better job of explaining this way back in 1913 than I ever could.

[Anonymous No.3662520]

>>3662487
This. The nazi economy was probably more similar to the current western status quo-but still a bit different. Private enterprise but within a controlled market. Soviet socialism was essentially handing the keys of the economy over to the same visionaries that run the department of motor vehicles. It was perhaps marginally preferable to the monarchy it replaced, but still vastly inferior to the current system. This is something China has experienced first hand as its GDP and subsequently its workers' wages increased exponentially in just a couple decades after embracing capitalistic reforms. Imagine being so retarded that you sympathize with a system that has an average lifespan of a middle school students' winter break and leaves nothing but penniless slavs in its wake. Fucking fags lol

[Anonymous No.3662548]

>>3662273
Just ignore Venezuela sweetie :^|
art

[Anonymous No.3662553]

>>3662472
>non-white people are too stupid to make good art, you racist

[Anonymous No.3662555]

>>3662105
Can't wait for the blue wave to wash over this country next week and put the final nail in the coffin for modern Republicans.

You know you're fucked when you're whole ideology revolves around hating mUh Ev1L SjWs!!!

[Anonymous No.3662561]

>>3662555
This but red not blue, republican not democrat, nazi not sjw, and 20 times the irony

[Anonymous No.3662563]

>>3662105
>Ignoring the political message
that didn't go so well

[Anonymous No.3662568]

>>3662105
All this shitty image reminds me of is that I wish for the left to stop cramming their shit into fucking everything, and for /pol/ and incels to leave.

[Anonymous No.3662604]

>>3662105
>angry ugly snotty woman screaming and tearing shit up
cringe and bluepilled

[Anonymous No.3662658]

>>3662472
They don’t look anything like South American murals.

[Anonymous No.3662694]

I think the naivistic style is supposed to look like uneducated folk art and appeal to grass roots movements. The message is basically "rise up gamers!" except unironically and with POC's

[Anonymous No.3662699]

>>3662658
The profile face with a big nose and drawn lips showing indigenous ancestry. The fist with a stone this time replaced by crumpled paper. Come on.

[Anonymous No.3662702]

>>3662228

Anti-sjw =/= alt right. You should know that leftypol doesn't like identity politics either.

[Anonymous No.3662703]

Nothings wrong with ethnic art, but yes ops pic is pretty shitty, and honestly frightening. It evokes more hate and fear out of the gesture of the crumpling and resistance in the face then whoever this juan crow probably is.

Someone was probably paid a few bucks to do op's thing so idk why people mind anyway.

Pic related good way to use primitive/ethnic inspiration

[Anonymous No.3662725]

>>3662555

[Anonymous No.3662728]

>>3662469
>The left is to blame for everything
every time.

[Anonymous No.3662739]

>>3662172
>Nah. Nice strawman though.
Aesthetic relativism is an invention of modernism and directly opposes classical standards, in part for not being egalitarian.

>"Under Suprematism I understand the primacy of pure feeling in creative art. To the Suprematist, the visual phenomena of the objective world are, in themselves, meaningless; the significant thing is feeling, as such, quite apart from the environment in which it is called forth." - Kazimir Malevich

[Anonymous No.3662742]

>>3662728

They are to blame for most things that are wrong in the art world.

[Anonymous No.3662751]

>>3662702
bullshit, half of them are trannies

[Anonymous No.3662752]

>>3662751

So?

[Anonymous No.3662827]

>>3662752
>gay dudes with breast implants spending a fortune on surgeries, hard drugs and hormones demanding everyone else call them "women" that they be legally identified as such hate identity politics

Go back to your containment board retard

[Anonymous No.3662830]

>>3662105
Some anxious designer that can't draw and didn't wanna trace or heavily reference something.

He deliberately used colors that aren't common in propaganda poster. It's got weak. Guy was afraid to not be original, enough to jeopardize the message. Selfish.

[Anonymous No.3662836]

>>3662555
It's more about how for the past several decades every industry that the US government has entrenched itself in the most has seen price gouging that far exceeds the inflation rate. Healthcare, Education and Housing are the three biggest problems with the current economy and they just happen to be the areas in which the federal government has made itself a major factor in the relationship between buyers and sellers.

There is one side that wants to open up these industries to the same competitive market forces that've made it so that you can buy a 50-inch 4k television for $35.95 and another side that wants to continue on the failed half measure shell-game policies of the past that's led to this situation to begin with. The tiresome virtue signalling on behalf of inconsequentially small portions of the population like fucking trannies and SJW shit is just icing on the cake.

[Anonymous No.3662843]

>>3662827

Not all of them are like that: I've come across plenty of trannies that are fans of people like Jordan B. Peterson, Sam Harris and Trump.

[Anonymous No.3662847]

>>3662843
Fair enough.

[Anonymous No.3662850]

>>3662827
>not understanding the diference between gender and sex
C'mon I even don't agree with a lot of it but I'm not dumb enough to say what you did

[Anonymous No.3662863]

>>3662105
It looks bad on purpose, like faux Aztec/Indian shit, to try and create feelings of "culture" and "diversity" in the viewer. It's looks fucking dumb to anyone whose head isn't up their ass though, like the story about the emperor who wasn't wearing any clothes but everyone pretended that he was because they wanted to appear smart (If you're not familiar with the story, a bunch of cons sold him an "invisible robe" that you can only see if you're intelligent)

[Anonymous No.3662865]

>>3662228
>I'm a crazy nutty marxist communist
You just admitted that it's not just a boogeyman. Fuck off, nutjob. You ruin everything, including art.

[Anonymous No.3662869]

>>3662850
>people that obliterate their genitals and get water balloons taped to their sternums aren't mentally ill and are sexually female just like they claim to be because of this completely unrelated semantic non-sequitur

Sorry but no lol

[Anonymous No.3662882]

>>3662869
You literally proved with this post that you don't understand the concept of gender. Are you stupid or pretending?

[Anonymous No.3662892]

>>3662703
That looks genuinely horrifying. And not in a good way.

[Anonymous No.3662903]

>>3662228
>>3662728
Nice strawman. No one's saying you're to blame for everything, you just happen to be the one to blame for a lot of things. But not everything.

[Anonymous No.3662929]

>>3662739
Would it have been even stronger to draw a circle rather than a square?

[Anonymous No.3662931]

>>3662865
I'm working on classical realism oil paintings and doing my part to bring back beauty, what are you doing my dude? Complaining about lefties online while doodling anime?

[Anonymous No.3662946]

>>3662931
>I'm doodling half-assed wannabe realism while complaining about alt-righters online
pyw

[Anonymous No.3662948]

>>3662946
Admittedly I've only been painting with oils for a year, but I'm steadily working on my skills.
>>3662923
Now show me what you've got, friend. Digital-only need not apply.

[Anonymous No.3662949]

>>3662948
he's cute uwu

[Anonymous No.3662950]

>>3662948
>digital only need not apply
Fuck off lol. My self-portrait looks way better than your shit on a canvas because I can add more effects. No my hair isn't really blue or my aren't red, but that's for extra effects to set the mood

[Anonymous No.3662951]

>>3662950
Are those bicycle handlebars supposed to be the clavicles? lmao

[Anonymous No.3662954]

>>3662951
pyw if you think you can do better.

[Anonymous No.3662958]

>>3662954
Uh, no. I'm not giving you the satisfaction. Stop drawing anime, stop drawing symbols, and grind some fucking Loomis.

[Anonymous No.3662960]

>>3662958
will he be satisfied if you can do better? sounds like you're a coward, anon

[Anonymous No.3662962]

>>3662960
You can't goad me into rewarding his behavior.

[Anonymous No.3662966]

>>3662962
surely you can see that his behavior is only rewarded if you post your work and it's crappier than his

[Anonymous No.3662968]

>>3662950
>>3662951
>>3662954
>>3662958
>>3662960
>>3662962
>>3662966
>filename
This shit was posted on and saved from /ic/. Stop feeding trolls

[Anonymous No.3662983]

>>3662948
ugly

[Anonymous No.3663060]

>>3662228
>>3662273
>>3662728
>"Look mommy! I'm special and counter-culture in 4chan!"
Jesus, what happened to this place? Did m00t selling out really wrecked this place that much?

[Anonymous No.3663065]

>>3662105
I was beginning to think I was the only person who saw this. Like I thought I was going insane and something was wrong with me. Thank you for making this thread.

[Anonymous No.3663072]

>>3662228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V6H1cV0pyc

[Anonymous No.3663116]

>>3662105
It's a classic style used for communism posters, if you travel around a place like vietnam you will see it everywhere.
Can we keep the /pol/ shit off the board? You guys sound literally retarded with your racist shit. Try saying it in real life rather than your 4chan safe space and see where it gets you.

[Anonymous No.3663150]

>>3663116
>Try saying it in real life rather than your 4chan safe space and see where it gets you.
but we can't because illegal globalist liberal communist sjw antifa nigger socialist feminist jew far left agenda

[Anonymous No.3663194]

>>3663150
If this is a cute way of saying "because arguments in public always have 'non-argument' consequences then I'd agree. So if you don't mind, or even if you do, I'll continue to say "racist shit" like how communism is a shit-tier economic system lionized by disaffected rich kids with double digit IQs whose sole redeeming quality is that it's almost worked a few times for a few months in a few countries the size of rural Wisconsin.

I'll take arguing over the internet to this kind of shit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5mku6s7vOI)) any day, I can already imagine how shrill this man-thing >>3662882 is becoming at the thought of someone not drinking his gender fluid as this conversation continues and it's much better to talk these things out at a nice correspondence pace.

[Anonymous No.3663241]

>>3663194
It's obvious the only political knowlege you have is from /pol/ threads.

[Anonymous No.3663245]

>>3662508
one thing you are missing about the left v right comparison is that lefties pay for this caliber of "work" while all the pepe edits and shit posts are just that: shit posts. one is meant to be taken seriously and the other isnt. one is absurd because its trying to deny reality, preaching that ugly is beautiful or that some societal standard is now defunct, while the other is absurd because thats how you make a joke. yeah both sides have superiority complexes (pic related) but i never see left leaning political art espouse self improvement, its always about tearing down the competition and bringing them down to your level, rather than rising to the challenge, and i think that this ethos is reflected in their work. it demands respect, but doesn't put any effort in to be worthy of any.

[Anonymous No.3663246]

>people in this thread
https://youtu.be/KJJ8xGtgaF4

[Anonymous No.3663306]

Because having standards is oppressing minorities.
Like seriously, any time that people want merit-based anything, leftists freak out like you’re actually Hitler.
>merit based hiring
Can’t have it
>merit-based school admissions
Racist
>embracing beauty standards as inherent
Actual holocaust
>expressing any kind of dating standard if you’re a man
Unspeakable
At this point they’ve successfully sent the message that the reason we have to embrace ugly is because rejecting ugly is the same thing as rejecting minorities.

[Anonymous No.3663309]

>>3662148
Ironically kinda sounds like any art community that isn’t drawing right now. Gotta admit I appreciate that.

[Anonymous No.3663310]

>>3662249
See the wall of text

[Anonymous No.3663318]

>>3662472
>Mexican nationalism
>in a country other than Mexico
Yeah no that’s a problem friendo. And I’ll use my free speech to call it out as shit.

[Anonymous No.3663331]

>>3662148
Is /ic/ leftist then?

[Anonymous No.3663334]

>>3662555
I‘m glad you feel smug. I hope you feel so confident in your victory that you don’t even vote. You’re winning, so relax. :)

>>3662703
Juan Crow is probably a take on “Jim Crow” to compare the situation of illegal immigrants with the situation of black people during segregation.

>>3662728
No, not everything. I blame conservative white people for letting this happen in the first place, for walking back every rule they make in their own house and throwing away what was won for them with blood.
It may not even be the leftists’ fault that they bought into the subversion. They were fed flowery language, given something to defend, and a bad guy to fight, all by the largest propaganda apparatus in American history.
It doesn’t change the fact that they make things shittier in an attempt to spread those ideas like a virus. Look at animation as an example.

[Anonymous No.3663336]

>>3663310

When was this written?

[Anonymous No.3663344]

>>3663116
Ive been to Vietnam. The propaganda there is far and away more appealing to look at than OP. I got to see a bit of everything in that country, so it pisses me off when people talk about how great communism is and how awful the west is. It’s personal for me, so I do talk about it publicly and I own it. How about you express what you think to a group of other people that you know don’t agree with you?

>>3663336
It’s from Richard Williams’ Animation Survival Kit. Published in 2001.

[Anonymous No.3663365]

>>3663331
Everyone is leftist anon, only a tiny portion of the population is stupid racist right wingers. Yet at the same time the right is the evil majority and the left are the plucky underdog rebels.
If you can accept these two totally contradictory things at once then you'll be well on your way to joining the massively small majority of outnumbered mainstream resistance fighters.

[Anonymous No.3663369]

It's more jewish than leftist. Jews dislike all depictions of beauty.
1. Their religion is anti-nature, therefore anti beauty.
2. They themselves are considered ugly outsiders to the gentiles, so getting rid of beauty ideals makes them feel less singled out
3. Money laundering. nepotism, making cheap shitty art to promote untalented people in their clique.
Since the jews basically control "culture" in the west it is not surprise that most of the art being funded and produced is purposefully ugly.
If you don't believe me they've written books about exactly this.You Gentiles, The Authoritarian Personality, for starters. Everything beautiful scares jews.

[Anonymous No.3663378]

>>3663331
/ic is literally worse than Hitler

[Anonymous No.3663536]

>>3663369
>Their religion is anti-nature, therefore anti beauty.
There is nothing more ugly and disgusting than nature, though. Ugly faces, too much body hair, unperfect bodies are all natural. In democratic Athene nature was rejected in art to instead represent perfection to aspire to, and that's what neoclassicism took. Nature is the main element of native art, cause nature is all they had.

[Anonymous No.3663543]

>>3663369
Number 3 is the big thing, really. You've got to remember it's not just the jews who promote modern art but the rich elite in general.

[Anonymous No.3663564]

>>3663536
Idealizing and "beautifying" nature doesn't stem from hating nature. Our perception of what is beautiful comes from nature (and I don't just mean grass and trees). Jews despise nature and think they are above it. They see nature as an obstacle that god will overcome and in turn give them eternal paradise, with every living thing as their slave. They loathe the world and all that lives in it, besides themselves (the "chosen") and their god, yahweh.
They are obsessed with the base and the otherworldly. They will reject anyone who has ideal visions of the world outside of their cult.
That's why they hate "idol worshiping" and historically excommunicated any jews who "acted like the Greeks" (perfected their bodies and minds). They want to make everything ugly, and it's reflected in their "art".
After thousands of years of breeding for this ideology, I believe all jews have a biological tendency to pursue the ugly and the base, whether or not they understand why.
>>3663543
The elite class is Jewish or those approved by Jews.

[Anonymous No.3663574]

>>3663564
>biological determinism dictates what people believe and value
>abstracts are biologically inherited
And this is where you lose me anon.

[Anonymous No.3663579]

>>3663574
They've been a cohesive group for more than 2,000, selectively breeding themselves for these rabbinical traits. If there wasn't something unique about the jewish mind, they would have died out and forgotten like every other bronze aged tribe. Instead they are now the global elite class. It's not that crazy. We already know through animal husbandry and domestication we can effect the brains of animals, and humans are animals, too. Eugenics works, though the results aren't 100% predictable.
Jews are the most unique ethnic group on the planet. Unlike every other race, they are entirely parasitic.

[Anonymous No.3663594]

>>3663579
Tell me Grugg, is there a subversion gland in the brain that’s just bigger in the long-nose tribe?
I’m not disagreeing that Jewish communities are knowingly bad for nonjew host countries, it’s kind of hard to miss. But you’re veering away from what can be proven and into speculation territory, and your idea about abstract concepts being hereditary sounds like bullshit.
Stick to what you can prove, don’t be speculative if you don’t have to.

[Anonymous No.3663611]

Oh look, the PhD in jew found an excuse in a poster to talk about his favorite subject.

[Anonymous No.3663644]

>>3663564
Explain to me this /pol/ fags. If blacks and jews are underhuman and should be destroyed why do jews have such high iq and became rich in the first place. also if blacks should be got rid of because they are violent and less inteligent why shouldn't the same happen to whites since asians are more inteligent and overal have less crime?

[Anonymous No.3663646]

>>3663644
1) It is acknowledged that Jews have vast intellect, what makes them subhuman is their lack of a soul.
2) Asians (depends on nationality) and whites (also depends on nationality) are capable of living together in harmony. Blacks are at their best when they are on their home continent.

[Anonymous No.3663647]

>>3662836
>he actually thinks our issues with healthcare, education & housing is somehow the result of government interference and not greedy big business

[Anonymous No.3663650]

>I don’t know why anybody would use such awful art in their campaigns.
They are incompetent.
Thread hidden

[Anonymous No.3663652]

>>3663647
>muh big business boogeyman
Real life is more complicated than that, but it must be really nice living in such a simple world, so I won't try to burst your bubble.

[Anonymous No.3663656]

>>3663646
1 Why don't jews have any soul? what the fuck is that even supposed to mean?

2 I live in the netherlands and see whites, asians and blacks living together in harmony. why should they go to their home continent if I have living proof they can live in harmony?

[Anonymous No.3663659]

>>3663656
>Why don't jews have any soul?
Because they are subhuman.
>what the fuck is that even supposed to mean?
That they don't have souls.

>I live in the netherlands and see blu blu blu blu blu
Anecdotal evidence, yay I totally changed my mind, thanks I don't know what I would have done if you didn't do that

[Anonymous No.3663661]

>>3663659
High iq post

[Anonymous No.3663662]

>>3663659
based

[Anonymous No.3663666]

>>3663652
lmao. What is this bullshit response?

>muh big government boogeyman
Real life is more complicated than that, but it must be really nice living in such a simple world, so I won't try to burst your bubble.

[Anonymous No.3663669]

>>3663666
I'm not the person you originally responded to, so I'm not coming from the "muh big government boogeyman" angle. Your angle is a bit more simplistic than his though. And more childish.

[Anonymous No.3663675]

>>3662105
quality is an oppression tool of the patriarchy. in general but especially in art

[Anonymous No.3663677]

>>3663675
This. Ban all "quality" and beauty and ban big business

[Anonymous No.3663719]

>>3663675
>>3663677
I cannot tell if you people are being ironic or not, with the dismal state the "art community" is in, these might be genuine...

[Anonymous No.3663847]

>>3663719
>I can't identify shitposting and I don't like sarcasm
Just go to r/learntodraw already

[Anonymous No.3663884]

>>3663656
>I live in the netherlands and see whites, asians and blacks living together in harmony. why should they go to their home continent if I have living proof they can live in harmony?

Because there are more non-Europeans than Europeans, they breed more, and many of them can not form well-functioning societies. So the end result of the current path is ever-increasing one-way migration and a displacement of Europeans within their own nations. Due to the lower average IQ of some groups and their inferior culture (likely due to lower the IQ), they will inevitably stack at the bottom rungs of society, forming race-based underclasses. They will then become useful idiots for leftists, viewing their situation as a result of oppression rather than personal failings. They will also demand that the society and culture cater to them, change to suit them. There can not be multiculturalism in a nation, there will always be a fight for dominance. People largely will ultimately stick to their own and want their own culture to be dominant.

Ideally a society should not persecute and abuse 'others', and should allow them to visit, and to stay, to a certain degree. But maybe it is not possible. The 'other' will always advocate for more 'others', in order to feel more comfortable as a minority. Then you return to the never ending demographic change, until the native is a hated minority in their own land.

[Anonymous No.3664544]

>>3662105
Why is everyone obsessed with "hate" nowadays?

[Anonymous No.3664554]

>>3663594
Until we find specific genes for intelligence and personality, we can never know for sure. But it is pretty obvious that each ethnic group has their own version of "standard", for the jews, that standard includes most of what I just said.
It's not crazy to believe that part of what motivates them is instinct.

[Anonymous No.3664560]

>>3663644
By keeping everyone separate, which is what I want. This analogy doesn't work since black nationalists and jews are clamoring to enter white societies, while white nationalists want nothing more than to be left alone.
Also jewish intelligence is unable to produce anything worthwhile. If Whites, blacks (and the rest of the goyim) disappeared, the jews would revert back to a bronze aged nomadic tribe of cultists. They are only capable of subversion and nepotism. Even their own home nation exists only because of extorted foreign money and military power.
They have no middle class and no morals. They exist only as a high level parasite. Take away the host and you'll see how lacking in intelligence they are. That's why they won't leave.

[Anonymous No.3664566]

>>3664544

Truth looks like hate to those that hate truth.

[Anonymous No.3664589]

>>3662105
Really makes you think, hmm....

[Anonymous No.3664609]

>>3662238
>USSR
>leftist
The views of the average USSR citizen have nothing to do with Progressive Globo Homo, most were (guardedly) anti Semitic, deeply nationalist and conscious to keep alive their ethnic traditions (in spite of governance), just look at the Purges. Whereas the left today is Yaaaas Brown Queen, let’s all become mixed race helots for Silicon Valley and Israel

[Anonymous No.3664614]

>>3664589
they're a fucking ice cream company
why do they feel the need to get politically involved with anyone for fucks sake

[Anonymous No.3664616]

>>3663644
Explain this to me, fag. Why every time somebody expresses a non-mainstream opinion on anything you guys always bitch about /pol/?
You people even do this on Twitter and Youtube.

[Anonymous No.3664625]

>>3664614

Because they believe it will benefit their business, ofcourse. They wouldn't virtue signal if they didn't believe it would. Kind of ironic how they are collaborating with islamist Linda Sarsour though.

[Anonymous No.3664638]

>>3664625
Dumb libertarians thinking big business promotes progressive politics for money. they're idealogues.

[Anonymous No.3665031]

>>3664638
It's both really, they are corrupt and hire ideologues who hire more ideologues.

[Anonymous No.3665140]

>>3662105

Got your attention, didn't it?

[Anonymous No.3665203]

>>3662112
>BenGarrisonLearnsToTimeTravel.jpg

[Anonymous No.3665207]

>>3664589
Stand up against the man, buy Unilever products.

[Anonymous No.3665289]

>>3664560
>By keeping everyone separate, which is what I want.

That "sentence" doesn't respond to anything in the previous post.

>Also jewish intelligence is unable to produce anything worthwhile

Please define worthwhile, because that claim sounds pretty stupid, especially since intelligence isn't "jewish", it's a quality that anyone can have or lack.

> If Whites, blacks (and the rest of the goyim) disappeared, the jews would revert back to a bronze aged nomadic tribe of cultists

I feel sorry for you if you genuinely believe this stuff, it's the same bottom-tier propaganda everyone's said or written about every "enemy tribe" since time immemorial.

I'm not saying there aren't shitty people, but the kinds of people trying to sell you on this garbage have an agenda too, and I guarantee it does not include your betterment.

[Anonymous No.3665293]

>>3665289
>oy vey goyim, the people telling you Jews are bad news are doing so as a plot against you!
Irony.

[Anonymous No.3665306]

>>3665293

At the end of the day, powerful people do have agendas, but the contents of the agenda matter.

A group that
>achieves its goals based on promoting education,
>mutual tolerance,
>strong-but-economically maintainable defense,
>improved access to trade goods and services, >and which is lead by capably intelligent individuals who will for providing and maintaining these services take a cut of the flourishing

I think is far superior to one in which
>education is discouraged and denigrated,
>Isolationism makes goods expensive and limited,
>everyone is encouraged to be at each other's throats
>and the cut is extracted by brutalizing a scapegoat and the expensive costs one can charge as the only provider of basic essentials

It comes down to the kind of world you want to live in.

[Anonymous No.3665317]

>/pol/tards complain about the left while failing to understand that most good artists they love are left wing, the thread

[Anonymous No.3665331]

>>3665306
So, you're a Jewish supremacist then? Great. Leave us whites alone. We'll suffer so much without your holy presence.

[Anonymous No.3665334]

>>3665306
I can't believe the audacity of some jews. Saying that white supremacists are worse for governing white people than Jewish supremacists. Good lord. How much do the jews adore themselves? So much they cannot fathom why anyone else wouldn't.

[Anonymous No.3665339]

>>3665331
>Jewish supremacist
>Implying that's a thing

I'm saying even in your naïve model of "somebody with an agenda's manipulating society", you're still getting fucked way harder by whoever's trying to sell you on the "hating enemy tribes 101" propaganda than the group they oppose.

>>3665334
>How much do the jews adore themselves
>implying you need to be jewish to think you're wrong.

>Saying that white supremacists are worse for governing white people than Jewish supremacists
Remove supremacists, and yeah, pretty much I'd agree with that. White supremacists seems to be pretty shit tier governance, when evaluated objectively. You get a society based on brutality and keeping you down rather than one based on mutual toleration and benefitting from societal growth.

[Anonymous No.3665360]

>>3665339
No point in trying to argue with /pol/ types, they can only answer in reddit tier memes like calling anyone they disagree with jewish or goy, because thats all they do in their ecochamber.

[Anonymous No.3665722]

>>3665339
I know it's hard for you to understand, but white people prefer to be ruled over by other white people, not jews.
Whites were never clamoring for jews to enter their ruling system. In fact many European and American laws were set up to exclude you from it. It's the jews who worm their way in and change our laws and our nations to their benefit, not ours.
Whites thrive without jews, jews cannot survive without a group to exploit. To claim that you're better than us, that we are like stupid animals you have to control for our benefit, yes I'd call you are Jewish supremacist.
>Jewish supremacy doesn't exist
Very common for jews to claim anything they don't like hearing to not exist. Palestinians don't exist, the white race doesn't exist, borders (besides israel's) don't exist, etc.

[Anonymous No.3665731]

>>3662228
>why left wing poster ugly anons?
>because leftist ideas
>WHY ALT RIGHTER BLAME EVERYTHING ON LEFT

[Anonymous No.3665902]

>>3662105
As others have stated, ugliness is a goal of the left. Read "Harrison Bergeron" if you haven't been exposed to it already; it's a short story about a dystopian future where beauty and unequal achievement are criminalized under "equality" laws. It was written in 1961, and it's remarkably prescient about today's crop of SJWs.

>>3663644
>also if blacks should be got rid of because they are violent and less inteligent why shouldn't the same happen to whites since asians are more inteligent and overal have less crime?
God, I hate this argument. Do you understand the concept of a tipping point?

There is a point of human intellect below which it is not possible for a large group of people to form much in the way of a civilization. Blacks (AS A GROUP, I don't care about your one smart black friend) are below that point. If they lived on their own, it would be their own problem...but they live with us, foisting the problem onto other peoples. That's the issue, that's the difference. Get with the program, ffs. It's tiresome explaining such basic things over and over.

>>3664554
We've actually found several already, anon. Dig around on SNPedia.

>>3665339
You are incorrect. "Diversity" lowers social trust and makes society worse for everyone (of ALL races) living in it. Sickeningly, the political scientist responsible for the best research on this (Robert Putnam) is a leftist who sat on publishing it because he didn't want anyone to know about it.

[Anonymous No.3665925]

>>3664609
>USSR wasn't leftist
the absolute state of /pol/fags

[Anonymous No.3665973]

>>3665902
>As others have stated, ugliness is a goal of the left
Not that anon, but you are just willingly inventing some retarded strawman to complain about it, instead of looking at how the world really works.
Case in point, most artists, including those that do create beatifull things, are left wing. And you guys probably know it too, because a lot of you arguing in this thread must be the same ones that complain every other day about some artists that they like being left wing or a SJW.
Art aesthetics don't have a side in your retarded political war. Socialist dictatorships are as left wing as it gets and a lot of them had a very hiperrealist aesthethic, sometimes even mandatory. Ugly SJW art is no more part of "The left" than chick tracks and cringy jesus drawings are part of the right.

This whole idea that old realist art is part of the right while anything made since the modern revolution is "left wing" is just some meme cooked up in /pol/ by people that haven't opened an art history book their entire life.


Also:
>Read this book of fiction that agrees with me.
The joke writtes itself

[Anonymous No.3666020]

>>3663331
/ic/ is an ultra-right monarchist board

[Anonymous No.3666995]

>>3663331
/ic/ is esoteric anime hitlerist.

[Anonymous No.3667036]

>unironically wanting to live under a stagnant and oppressive leftist command economy because you were stupid enough to pay over $100,00 for a shitty degree and too dense to see how government half-measures like federal grants and loan guarantees are what's driven the cost of these degrees so high to begin with

"wew", as they say

[Anonymous No.3667038]

>unironically wanting to live under a stagnant and oppressive leftist command economy because you were stupid enough to pay over $100,00 for a shitty degree and too dense to see how government half-measures like federal grants and loan guarantees are what's driven the cost of these degrees so high to begin with

"wew", as they say

[Anonymous No.3667044]

>>3662148
Nice bait. I'll bite.
>useless parasites
>implying they're not the ones working their asses 8 to 10 hours to produce merchandise for a single faggot masturbating with dollars
If anything, leftist people are wrong for not killing all capitalists parasites yet (which are a minority of population).

[Anonymous No.3667046]

>>3667038
>Reagan Gang
>not Reagang
You had one job.

[Anonymous No.3667515]

>>3667044
Yeah, killing off the most competent people is what you retarded commies tend to do.

[Anonymous No.3668519]

>>3663644
>if blacks and Jews need to be destroyed
I don’t believe that. /pol/ isn’t a monolith.
Tl;Dr I don’t care about black people because they don’t care about me.
I just think that black people live in their own reality and that they see people like me from a sociopathic lens(they see guilt and the desire to help as a weakness to be exploited). They never reciprocate any good will toward their “allies,” instead they feel entitled to revenge for what happened 150 years ago to people who aren’t even alive anymore. Therefore, their struggle is their own and my struggle is mine.
Until that changes I’m not going to change my mind. It’s hard to feel sympathy for people who tell me to fuck off, like this is golden rule basic bitch shit.
Jews can be okay when they’re estranged, converted to Christianity, or right wing, but otherwise they routinely do things to benefit themselves at the expense of their host countries. For that reason I think they should fuck off to Israel instead of making everyone else’s lives worse for their own benefit. I don’t advocate political violence, but if they’re so worried about another holocaust than they should fuck off while we’re still willing to hold the door open for them.

[Anonymous No.3668546]

>>3667515
>Hoarding wealth is a sign of competence
You're retarded. Also, not /ic/. Take this stupid shit to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.3668580]

>>3667044
>>3668546
>which are a minority of the population

Maybe you realized this or maybe you didn't. In many instances a CEO is one man overseeing an organization with millions of employees. The one man may make an annual salary of 2 million a year like the CEO of McDonalds for example, but if his position were to completely evaporate that would only leave his millions of employees with a few dollars, not an hour, but total.

The average corporation has a net profit of 10% or so, sometimes way less, sometimes quite a bit more. In either case anything other than the net profit represents wages paid to hundreds, thousands or even millions of employees, taxes, raw materials to make products, transportation of raw materials and products, research and development; the creation of new products and a million other things. To that end, 90% of the gross profit many corporations make feeds directly into the greater ecosystem of the economy because one company will often rely on many others to function.

Goddamn, I'm so sick of druggy burnouts that can't even manage a two or three person roommate situation acting like being directly responsible for whether or not a multi-billion dollar company overseeing millions of employees lives or dies is some kind of do nothing job. You can't even balance your checking account faggot stop acting like you have everything else in the world figured out, fucking NEET retard lmao

[Anonymous No.3668609]

>>3663644
I can't tell if this post is satire, but >>3663656
>what does not having a soul even mean
makes me think this guy is just autistic and doesn't understand visual language unlike 99% of people.

[Anonymous No.3670680]

>>3662112
I hate political drivel in art, but I unironically love that skeleton design

[Anonymous No.3670700]

>>3662105
Because "The People" as in "leftist cannon fodder" is made up of ugly, stupid neanderthals that can't make anything for themselves so they gang up to demand other people's shit.
Aesthetics demand effort, hard work, which is something they cannot identify with.
Some brown blob raising its fist into the sky? Well that's totally them! It's all they'll ever be.

[Anonymous No.3670709]

>>3670700
Beauty is a threat because it shines a light on all of the uglyness that surrounds it

[Anonymous No.3670746]

>>3663365
you gave me the brain hurt

[Anonymous No.3670761]

>>3670700
Based Arnold statue

[Anonymous No.3670816]

>>3662105
I think it's supposed to trick the viewer into thinking it's some sort of "ethnic" style, when in reality it's just more unskilled cheap labor.

[Anonymous No.3672373]

>>3662472
>And since non whites draw too, and they can participate in politics
Exactly why they don't belong in my fucking state, spic. Leave art to your biological and spiritual superiors.