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Vent your art related problems here.

>> No.3636779

I just tried my friend's ipad pro for drawing and it felt like heaven and it's incredibly disappointing going back to my old intuos but I'm too poor to buy an ipad pro

>> No.3636795

>>3636777
LUCKY TRIPS OF SEVEN PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GET ME AN ART GIRLFRIEND IM SO LONELY AND HORNY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH I WILL BE THE BOYFRIEND OF LITERALLY ANY GIRL THAT IS UNDER 105 LBS AND OVER 5’6” AND LOOKS LIKE ELLE FANNING PLEEEEAAASSSEE I DESERVE IT

>> No.3636801

>>3636795
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.3636827

Got no skills. Got no money. Got no job, but at least I have 4chan

>> No.3636829

>>3636795
Dubs and this guy has to draw for three days straight without eating, drinking, or sleeping.

>> No.3636846

Ten years or more since i started drawing and it feels like i'm more and more far away from reaching a professional level.

>> No.3636875

Pandering on the internet is harder than I thought. Do I pander to Shonen fags? Artsy fags? Ecchi-loving fags? And it seems like once you're stuck with a specific segment that's it, the internet is very unforgiving for people trying to branch out.

>> No.3636884
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3636884

I threw out my shoulder playing fetch with my dog and now I can't draw until it heals up a little. It's so stiff and hurts. :(

halp pls

>> No.3636886

The drawing bug has bit me bad again. I just want to stay home and practice and sketch and paint all day but I don't want to get fired.

>> No.3636922

>>3636795
Is this the same guy who keeps post "IM SO LONELY AND HORNY" or are just a lot of people on /ic/ lonely AND horny?

>> No.3636984
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3636984

Everything I draw feels flat and lacks any motion. It doesn't "feel" like its moving and irritates me so much.

>> No.3637016

>>3636777
when I have time to work on stuff I don't and I don't know why. Once i get started on something and I'm in the zone its the best feeling in the world, but when I'm sitting around, have plenty of free time, I just feel so lazy and put off getting started on stuff, so I have mountains of barely started projects that will never get finished. how do I get over this? the thought of doing any of the things that actually make me happy feels like dreadful work

>> No.3637060

>>3636795
if i get dubs, you shall never.

>> No.3637061

>>3636984
G E S T U R E S

>> No.3637065

>>3636777
I can't get fucking VALUES right.
Either I smudge black everywhere and shit up whatever I did with an excess of shadow, either I shade so little it's barely noticeable. I still don't get it.
>>3636795
>tfw there's a fuckton of those at my uni
I don't think that's a thing you'd really want though. Pretty much all of the art gfs I've met are either tumblrinas or autistic fujos. Get a regular gf.

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>>3636777
I wish I could get motivated to draw more but I always end up forgetting and regretting it later.

>> No.3637096

>>3636777
I skipped drawing on the right si de of the brain and keys to drawin and jumped straight to loomis.

>> No.3637100

it took me about 2 and a half hours to get the proportions somewhat right and get the contour of the world snake from god of war. i cant into perspective despite understanding it, so it just takes me forever to draw anything. i wish i had more time to improve faster.

>> No.3637110

>>3637066
relying on motivation is a zero sum game
develop discipline instead

>> No.3637111
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3637111

the only thing i've been able to draw this past week because all the job applications an interviews i've had for the past two months continue to not pan out, i can't even get a seasonal retail position in this area, why is my emotional state tied so closely to my ability to make anything. at least i get to have burger today, can't wait for the storm to likely take the power out again this afternoon. at least the temperature seems to be finally dropping next week, maybe the gnats will finally fuck off an die for a couple months. it's the little things, y'kno? the incredibly annoying, tiny, little things.

>> No.3637120

>>3637111
Don't despair, there's always hope.

>> No.3637128

>>3636777
i stopped drawing for a week because i had to do shit for finals and now i cant fucking draw anything properly WHAT THE FUCK

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>>3636777

Going to gnomon. It's my first week in its a lot of work and I don't know if I can handle it (I can, but dear god I feel anxious)

>> No.3637137
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I'm so fucking stressed out from uni, studying Aerospace and the amount of interdisciplinary courses we're expected to take is insane

The other engineers don't have schedules even close to this, we have almost twice as many modules as the next discipline.
Every professor is expecting a huge time commitment too, which is fine and all for all the non-Aeros because their schedule fucking allows it but I'm working 6hrs of lectures a day + 3-4 labs a week and get back fucking exhausted every day.
It's like all I do is go to uni and sleep between studying and eating.

My art fucking degraded too, I can barely imagine anything because of exhaustion. I keep trying to draw things I probably could've before but keep failing. I can't even get the image of it in my head

>> No.3637146

Last week i got comissioned a logo animation. I don't really animate - i work in illustration and have the bare minimum AfterEffects skill, but the dude said he wanted me for the project specifically because it's super important and it has to be someone he trusts. So i was like ok, ill do what i can, but im not an animator so ill lower my rate for this project. I sent them an initial version and they asked to speed up the ending, so i did that, then they asked for something else, more things, eventually they said what i did looked "meh" and "amateurish", and that they're "disappointed in me". At the end of the day they said they're gonna have to hire someone else for the project. Wtf. I've had many not so good experiences as a freelancer so far but this was really something else. Made me feel like shit, especially that in my eyes the animation doesn't even look that bad.

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3637147

I work 9 to 5 and come home so exhausted I can't draw a straight fucking line. I just want to stay home and draw anime titties all day but I can't even do it in what little free time I have. What's the fucking point.

>> No.3637148

>>3637147
you just have to push through it, i work 9 - 5:30, get home about 6, eat, then draw til i can't be bothered anymore.

>> No.3637155

>>3637120
i know, i apologize, i don't mean to be a downer, i'm just so tired, thank you tho

>>3637128
think of it this way, the extra bit of work to get the rust off'll probably make what you have to relearn stick even more next time!

>>3637135
i bet you can handle it an i'm sure you'll do great! especially if you're who i think you are (i have a friend who uses that same image as their icon on twitter who i know occasionally browses twitter and i also now know you probably recognize me from my drawing, apologies for not talking in so long, i hope things are good! (if this is you hahasdf))

>>3637137
i know when i'm too sleepy (which is unfortunately a lot) i can't even get things onto the page properly, let alone actually think of what i'm doing. but after i've rested i can usually do it wayy better than i could earlier. i know school is hard, especially in your course, but think about how cool the things you'll get to work on are!! (if you do like planes and spaceships and stuff like that). i remember just a few months ago i was tearing up looking at pictures of the space shuttle on display in museums, thinking about how excited i got thinking about them and other cool planes when i was younger. my grandma had got me this super cool poster of a buncha notable planes and i would just sit and stare at it for hours. i wish i had grown up to be smart enough to contribute to cool things like that. gah now i really wanna draw some space shuttles. sorry, i know this doesn't help much with your art feelings, i just wanted to thank you for your future contributions to cool planes an stuff!! i believe in you!

>> No.3637156

>>3637146
i'm sorry you had such a bad experience, especially in a professional environment, they way they responded to your work sounds incredibly unprofessional and improper for the situation. even if you look back on this and think you could've done better know that it's completely their fault for going with you even after you warned them you lacked experience in this area, you went out of your comfort zone and created something amazing regardless!

>>3637147
neil gaiman made a post on tumblr like several several years ago (some english author of comic books and book books, also he was in an episode of arthur!) about how when he was first starting out and still working a regular job, the solution he found to this problem was getting up early and working on writing as soon as he got up, then going to work and crashing after getting home. the unfortunate downside to this is it destroys your social life sorta hahasldfj, but if that's something you're not too worried about it might be worth attempting! i wish you luck in your anime tiddy persuits. tho also now rereading your post it seems you have little if no free time already so this might not even be an option, apologies.

>> No.3637162

>>3637147
The trick is to buy a punching bag and beat the fuck out of it until you get more energy again. You're not tired in the since that you're sleepy, you're tired of the 9 to 5 sucking your creative soul.

>> No.3637173

My art buddy stopped replying to me. It always happens to me. Fuck you all, guys

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>> No.3637189

>>3637173
I'm usually the side that jumped the ship. To the 10+ ex-buddies out there, sorry and I swear I won't do it again.

>> No.3637196

>>3637173
>>3637189
why do you just vanish? was always curious

>> No.3637198

>>3637175
Lol
>>3637173
I'll be your friend

>> No.3637200

>>3637196
Not him but I do the same thing because usually friends only slow you down from getting what you want.

>> No.3637212

>>3637155
>think of it this way, the extra bit of work to get the rust off'll probably make what you have to relearn stick even more next time!
is it weird that this kinda made me feel better
thanks friendo!

>> No.3637244

>>3636777
>Copied all of Loomis
>Copied all of Hampton
>Copied all of Vilppu
>Copied and followed along Proko
>Copied all of Scott Rob how to draw

And after 3 years, no progress.
Don't read the sticky, kids!

>> No.3637248

>>3637173
this happened to me just last month. made that art buddy while I was into a fandom. we still kept in touch even after he stopped being into the fandom and moved on to something else. then after a month of me not being able to reply (due to getting my first commission ever) he stopped replying to me.


I still see him come online on discord. I'm saddened that they've outgrown me but I will always cherish the memories we had.

>> No.3637254

>>3637244
That sounds like a personal problem.

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>>3636884
Dogg's are worth it, though.
And neck some ibuprofen instead.

>> No.3637258

>>3636777
Every painting I complete looks different to the last. I've now made hundred's is not thousands of pictures in different mediums (trad ones), and it still looks as if I have no style of my own. Getting really concerned this will always be the case....

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>>3637254
A personal problem everyone shares, it seems.

>> No.3637292

>>3637244
Self study without critique is the mistake you're making. Nobody here actually got good from solely reading those books.

>> No.3637295

>>3637244
post work before and after unless you are drawing like once a week, im sure as hell you had to improve somehow

>> No.3637300
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>>3637155
>i believe in you!
not an emotional guy but reading this meant a surprising lot to me, thanks a bunch anon

>>3637147
>>3637148
watch this, it really helps me try and stay on top of things even when I have to slog through uni
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO51Z5UTpxo

I find listening to Richard (inking in pic) to be really motivating

>> No.3637352

>>3637196
Internet friends are a massive timesink and hard to get invested in. IRL commitments, lack of personal investment, and divergent interests make it really easy to flake with no regrets. It also happens IRL with "buddies". Get a new job and you will never see most of your work buddies again. Join some group down at the art lofts and you realize it takes more than a single vaguely similar interest to maintain a relationship.

I can't really give advice, just point out my view. People are draining, working relationships aren't personal relationships, and internet relations are barely either of those but are equally draining with little reward. It takes a pretty substantial overlap in interests, values and desires to want to maintain something that is neither enriching nor especially valuable and you can't fake rapport. People want to forge some kind of friendship when all they really have in common is some nebulous love of art, but also want critique and advice, but their own advice is useless. Dialogue only happens between equals.

>> No.3637359

>>3636777
I just started putting more care into my lines, and my drawings improved by 50%.
I think I gave up on this a long time ago when I was just starting out, because I thought it was impossible to have nice lines.
Now after years of practise I guess I can sort of pull calligraphy-ish lines.
Pair that with my knowledge of forms and my visual library. and bada bing bada boom. there was an artist under all that rubble all along.

>> No.3637377

>>3637359
This is part of the reason why I'm finding Inktober so frustrating. When I come in to clean my drawing up the energy from my sketch gets lost and the ink reveals all the mistakes that I couldn't find initially. And it comes around to irritate me because it makes me fee l like I have to be back to square negative one.

>> No.3637378

>>3637300
Good idea dude, I'll start doing this.

>> No.3637395

I pandered to /co/ for a year, and now I want out.

>> No.3637459

>>3637359
How did you practice taking care of your lines?

>> No.3637514

What do you do when it takes too long to improve, even after a tonne of work, when the only barrier is mileage and you're out of juice?

>> No.3637523

I'm getting a little frustrated today.
My art from this time last year looks nothing like today's stuff. I'm proud of my progress. But all I draw is dumb ass fan art because I can't think of anything else. I have no original ideas. I'm the least-creative creative person ever lmao.

>> No.3637526

>>3637514
if there was an easy answer then everyone would have made it, anon.
sometimes it does seem like everyone but you made it. but a lot of them are just putting up pretenses. can only draw one thing.
lose faith, and find it again, rinse and repeat until you become stout of heart, and keep on truckin

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>>3637523
Draw whatever you like anon as long as you're getting better. If you only like already established characters then you can try to redesign them instead of jumping into original stuff

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>>3637526
>lose faith, and find it again, rinse and repeat until you become stout of heart, and keep on truckin
I guess you're right, thanks. pushing harder sounds like the only option... unless a break is acceptable I guess- which has the risk of losing your progress, so I don't really know about that.

>> No.3637582

>>3636922
>are a lot of people on [4chan board] lonely and horny?
what do you think, Einstein?

>> No.3637647

>>3636886
You work a desk job anon? I keep a notebook nearby and just doodle in it when it hits me, it’s not perfect but better than nothing.

>> No.3637648

>>3636795
Rolling for an interesting, intelligent,qt gf

>> No.3637704

>>3636777
Why the EVERLOVING FUCK can I not draw in my own home, all I wanna do is hang around and draw all the fucking porn I want but everything I draw at home comes out like shit, I don't wanna go hitch a ride on a bus every time I wanna doodle a damn dick

>captcha wants me to pick out busses

>> No.3637716

Art keeps making me tired.

If I just sit around doing nothing but browsing the internet or playing games I feel fine. The moment I pick up my pen and try to actually draw, my brain suddenly decides to feel insanely fatigued and I have to fight through exhaustion to get anything done.

I don't get it. I love drawing. I wanna do it all the time. But lately my body feels like is actively fighting against me being productive when it comes to art.

>> No.3637952

I'm terrified by the fact that I'm so old, I have so much to work on to be at least barely decent, it kinda paralizes me and I don't know where to start.

>>3637523
Maybe go on YT and lookup some random documentaries about cites, types of people, anything that you don't have in your visual library?

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>>3637952
Kim Jung Gi is 39. Katsuya Terada is 54. You're not old.
Either way there's no point in worrying about it, that won't make you age slower or age backwards. Just do the best you can from now. It doesn't matter how long it takes or how far you have to go either, looking too far ahead will distract you from the most important thing of just taking steps today. Take comfort in that every time you choose to do an extra half an hour of drawing before bed instead of watching an episode of anime or whatever, that's a step closer to getting where you want to go.

>> No.3637973

>>3637963
I'm old trust me. And those guys started working hard way earlier. I've just been doodling on and of my whole life without focusing.
But that's not an excuse, if I'm not retarded and work hard, I could make actually make something in a few years.
And yeah I'm trying to cut down distractions, I've already uninstalled the video games I played the most and I'm trying to watch less anime.

>> No.3637979
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3637979

I enjoy making my little comics, but when it comes to art and writing in general, I've always wanted to make something more grand, but that's not really a strong suit of mine. Also, I would like to make more art friends. Ones that aren't downers.

>> No.3637993

>>3637952
YANA, anon. This is exactly my problem. I don't even have years of doodling behind me either; my sister was The Artist Of The Family from an early age, so I gave up on drawing as a kid and have many years to make up for.

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>>3637993
Let's stop wasting time and go draw something. That's the only truth.

>> No.3638001

somedays I feel like I kill the shit out of figures, others I feel like a complete beg, feeling akin to one step forward two steps back

fuckin sucks

>> No.3638003

>>3636777
There's so much shit to learn. I'm just starting to get kinda good with drawing figures from imagination, but the characters I design look like crap because I know next to nothing about designing clothes and armor. Just another thing to add to the endless things you have to know to be a good artist.

>> No.3638007

>>3638003
That's because you're comparing to other artists.
Internet broke us. Compare only yourself with yourself.

>> No.3638010

>>3638007
Where's the fun in that?

>> No.3638047

>>3637173
this is me with my art buddy/rp partner since 2012, around 2015-2016 she didn't do much collab with me anymore after she got a job (then she talks a lot with some my dumbass ex-friends) then cue present year, she got a new art buddy which hurts me emotionally

fuck her and her new art buddy, i'm using my rage as a "fuel" on making better art to shove it on her goddamned face

>>3637248
i'm sorry to hear that anon, communication always sucks and even more sucks when your message is just "seen-zoned" when that person is online

i do cherish the memories we had, hell i sent her good artbooks on her 18th birthday when she was studying abroad

>> No.3638055

>>3637963
I thought KJG was a lot older than that lol I guess not all Asians look young lmao

>> No.3638058

>>3638055
he's going for the asian master look

>> No.3638206

>>3637979
Hey turtles, I always look forward to your posts. Are you on any discord servers?

>> No.3638207

>>3636777
all my shit looks muddy still

>> No.3638208

Inktober made me realize I suck as an artist, mostly because I can't make a drawing every day and that I can't draw with ink only.

>> No.3638212

>>3636827
That's still worse than nothing anon

>> No.3638213

>>3636922
Look at super Chad here with his 20 gfs

>> No.3638214

>>3636795
If I get dubs I'll consider.

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>>3637561
I was thinking about this throughout the day. At first I kind of brushed off your response, but then I stopped being a pussy and realized there's still a lot to learn, even from fanart.
Prime fuckin example - I'm bad at armor. Lo and behold I practiced some armor and wouldn't you know it, there's room to improve.

Uh anyway, the point is: Thanks anon, I appreciate your response and took it to heart.

>> No.3638221

>>3636875
Pander to yourself,dumbass, if you are going to be stuck with it, at least let it be something that you enjoy

>> No.3638223

>>3636846
It's been 12 years since I started and it feels like i went from beg to JUST level

>> No.3638238

>>3638208
Inktober's not meant to be a competition. It's meant to get you to stick with a project for 30 days. The rules are just there for context.

>I can't draw with ink only.
Try, and if not, make it mixed media. Who cares.

>I can't make a drawing every day
Just do your best. No one is grading you on this. But I bet you'll be pretty proud of having a stack of ink drawings by the end of the month.

>> No.3638240

I wish I started drawing early and have better design choices so I could actually have better design decision making skills and a better perspective.

Well, I'll try to make up for my weakness starting now.

>> No.3638408

>>3638206
Can't say I am. Should I be?

>> No.3638437

>>3636984
Animate, at least then its moving.

>> No.3638439

>>3638408
There's a couple art discords floating around /ic/, good way to make art friends imo.
At least it has beeb for me!

>> No.3638444

>>3638408
There's a couple art discords floating around /ic/, good way to make art friends imo.
At least it has beeb for me!

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>>3638444
>>3638444
>beeb
>double post
Nice

>> No.3638458

>>3637200
>>3637352

aren't you guys lonely though? Just get some actual art buddies whom you can share interests with, that way you can improve and get a change of pace together by talking about other shit that interests you

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>>3636777
I hate people who are better than me. I hate hate hate hate hate them so fucking much. I want to beat their fucking skulls in with nail studded baseball bats. I remember being in love with One Punch Man's and Dr. Stone's art but now I have to overlook it entirely just to get through a chapter without feeling seething envy. I fucking hate artists that are better than me. It's not fair. I want to be good.

>> No.3638479

I only want to do art when I'm bored in the middle of doing important uni stuff.

>> No.3638495

>>3638047
my art buddy became more sparse when he too got a job. I was still left wondering why to this day he still didn't reply. I told him in my last reply post that I got my very first commission and it took longer to finish than expected-that's why it took so long for me to respond.


it really killed my art drive for a while and fandom stuff is my main reason for enjoying drawing. I draw for money now too but it's still at a slow trickle (just started out). I'm into a new fandom now and I'm hoping to get another art friend


you sound like a good art buddy. I don't know how yours just dropped you out of their life

>> No.3638508

>>3637292
That isn't the issue.
I basically ignored the sticky and just started drawing what I wanted to draw. Doing this, I've made more progress in 1 month than 3 years of "studies".

Draw what you want, not what you think you're "supposed" to draw.

>> No.3638511

>>3638458
What you want are friends. Not art buddies, those are like drinking buddies. Talking about art all the time is draining and finding someone you actually get along with for other reasons is a pain in the ass.

That said, there's a woman I get along with for reasons that have nothing to do with art and we'll go do landscapes, hit up museums and sketch places occasionally, but our styles and goals are so different that there's nothing to talk about. I find her work inspiring, but we work completely ass backwards and infuriate each other. It's more that we're friends and colleagues and sometimes painting together is convenient.

We're too stubborn and self-reflective to take critique and there's none to give. The watercolor process makes her head spin and I hate the smell of solvents. We generally hate talking about art, that conversation dried up after a week. It boils down to shop talk and local drama.

>> No.3638515

>>3638511
ugh sounds like you need some actual friends anon, not some casual normies who don't even remotely share the same interests. You guys also seem very.. uptight

>> No.3638521

I lurk /ic/ just for the shitposts and drama treads, not for the practice, I'm too much of a pussy to show you guys anything of what I draw

>> No.3638529

>>3638515
Not that anon but it seems like a lot of people here just need a good friend.

>> No.3638570

My whole body hurts a lot, specially both of my arms, shoulders and back when Drawing, even after I've slept. Can't focus as well. Fall asleep fast when reading/drawing. Feeling tired all the time. Easily irritated.

These things aren't an issue about a year ago. Before, I can finish 1 or 2 pieces a day but now, Linework takes 2 or 3 days, even a week. I don't know what's happening.

>> No.3638575

>>3638570
Sounds like burnout. I know taking time off is really wned upon here but it sounds like you could use a day to relax.

>> No.3638577

>>3638570
Sounds silly but maybe video yourself when drawing, you might be over hunching for hours and it's causing problems. Good posture is always important anon

>> No.3638600

>>3638575
I already tried taking a day and a week off as well. Both didn't work. Plus my work got worse.
>>3638577
I see. I'm going to try this. Thank you!

>> No.3638644

I don't know how to be creative. I've been working at improving my art for a couple years now mostly through copying and studying, but now I'm realizing I don't know how to think of my own compositions or anything. How do I even go about improving this?

>> No.3638674

>>3638644
I don't know if creativity exists.
all ideas are combinations of existing ideas.

>> No.3638689

I don't really have an overpowering ambition to 'make it.' I never did.

If my family and friends are good then I'm good. If we're eating good, have spending money, and are not at each others throats, then everything's good.

I don't have that fear of failure anymore, or fear that if I don't become famous then I will have 'failed at life' or something. I am just happy we are not poor and dead. I don't feel any real competition with other artists my age. Hey, if they want to go design for game studios or disney, I wish them the best. But to me it's not do or die. In that sense I am a little envious, but also not. I can't imagine drawing for the sake of my well being and security.

This is not to say that I have given up on the path of being a good artist. I will keep drawing and improving my craft and find new ways to express myself more genuinely. But as for the desperate clawing that is associated with young artists with hopes for the industry, I dust my hands of it. And again, it's not because I see anything wrong with it. That would be moral grandstanding. It's because I literally can't do it. My main concern is safety and security and happiness. Everything else is secondary hobby.

>> No.3638737

>>3638515
That's just it, I have good friends. We have other interests and values we share, jacking off about art isn't one of them. I've been saying the whole time that the art buddy retardation is really shallow and why it doesn't usually last long.

I've also come to a point where I'm past the need for it. I did all that, the classes, the workshops, the shop talk, the blind leading the blind. It's where I learned what you want are mentors and colleagues for that shit and that most people give zero fucks about investing in making your art better. I don't even mean that in a jaded, bitter way, only that an interested and invested mutual exchange is hard earned luck and some fellow dumbfuck student isn't going to drag you out of the muck.

I have that, we're very similar up until the point of actually making art and what comes from it. There isn't much to say if the work is selling, it leaves us with provoking each other to be more asinine and calling it art. Does anyone really think artists stand around in galleries sipping wine and talking about "the counterpoint of light and darkness accentuates the blah blah". No, we say hi to Chuck while he entertains a bunch of cork sniffers with more money than sense, steal some box wine and cheese from the back, and go get crossfaded watching Rick and Morty.

>> No.3638812

>>3636795
Rolling for my oneitis

>> No.3638849
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>>3636777
no money

>> No.3639130

>>3638495
I forgot to mention one as well regards to my ex-art buddy: she cut off communications with me on that same year then she apologized to me after Christmas, but then again she didn't learn none shit after that apology and cuts me off again this year.

I'm emotionally tired after that long-hold patience with her and I can't see myself get mad out of it which seems petty. Her dropping out of my life seems worse than a heartbreak.

You're also seem a good art buddy too anon, we're both the same on how draw for money plus slow too (gotta blame my shit retail work for slow art progress) and I do hope you get a new art friend who shares interests/fandom with you. :)

>> No.3639159

I feel like I'm making decent progress, been studying seriously since the ass end of 15', can't do a lot of stuff from memory, but getting well into anatomy and can do heads somewhat, much more acclimated to sight drawing IRL.

My main issue which has really been crippling my schedule is time management, which I've been sorta shit at for a while. I'm real bad at scheduling and it feels like every time I set up a schedule, I only achieve certain parts of it (school-necessary parts, attending a community college art program), and never get to the self-study parts (reading Loomis, etc.), unless I do those first and end up pushing back my coursework to the last minute (I end up getting distracted a lot).

Sorta wondering if anyone has any tips for this sorta thing outside of brute forcing it. I know sleep is a huge contender, and I'll admit to having a shit schedule for that, so I'm trying to bring myself back to 7-8 hours a night even if I don't get everything done.

>> No.3639169

>>3636777
I just want people to give my art more attention, I've reached a point where I don't know what to do and I need someone's advice, but whenever I post in a thread on any site no one gives me any advice.

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>>3639169
I guess I just want some sort of encouragement and advice from people but no matter where I post no matter what website I get nothing

>> No.3639184

>Finally in a mood to do digital art.
>been focusing on traditional and fundies for the past year
>Plug in tablet.
>It's a bit old but ever reliable.
>Pressure sensitivity seems to be a bit off, maybe the nib is stuck?
>Press down.
>Tablet pen bursts in 2.
>How?
>Why?
>No answers, tablet is too old for me to find an affordable replacement rather than just replace the whole thing
>Only other tablet hasn't been working on my laptop so why would it work on my desktop?

The other tablet is a display but I'm thinking of just shilling it and getting a screenless to replace the first one I had.
Needless to say this killed my whole digital boner I had.

>> No.3639189

>>3639176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Ezzd1w0s8 to 25 secs

>> No.3639205

sometimes I'll put on 6 or 7 twitch (art) streams, and put them at varying volumes so its like I'm in a classroom, and everyday I'm at a new seat and hear new conversations. I'm so fucking lonely. but it does help with getting work done.

>> No.3639212

>>3639205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGqlCkuah94 listen

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>>3639205
>sometimes I'll put on 6 or 7 twitch (art) streams, and put them at varying volumes so its like I'm in a classroom, and everyday I'm at a new seat and hear new conversations. I'm so fucking lonely.

>> No.3639214

>>3639184
>>Press down.
>>Tablet pen bursts in 2.
retard strength is real

>> No.3639226

>>3639212
I don't trust this guy because he exudes the energy of a charlatan hack, but I've gotten something from this. I hope that doesn't sound too negative, but I appreciate it man.

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>>3636777
>Sat down 2 years ago and went over my life and preferences.
Set plan that would lead me to success and reach my preferred goals.

>Start plan,
>make progress,
>gaps between progress increase over time,
>make little to no progress lately,
>can't remember what the feelings behind the plan was,
>reading the written plan holds little to no meaning for me,
>wondering why i'm doing it, have mental breakdown thinking i'm a failure.
Considering suicide
>Remember i have a plan, a good one in fact.
>Get leet progress in on plan, feels good man.

Gaps between progress increase over time.

I'm on the 3rd cycle now, If i finished the plan i'd be making allot of money now, the times fit the plan perfectly, Other people are starting to get close to doing it instead of me, feel pain.

I'm on the 4th cycle now.

>> No.3639240

>>3636777
I don't know how to study drawing, I try to improvise, but always feels like something is wrong.

>> No.3639250

>>3639130
that's fucking weird. and yet I see artists on tumblr make art friends like magic despite the fact that place is a gender rainbow hell. even when they've switched fandoms I can still see them interacting on livestreams or just reblogging each others art with comments in the tags.
your friend does come off as someone who only comes to you when they need something then ignore you when they don't need you anymore. I know that feel too. when you've shared so much with another person it's hard to imagine them not being there anymore.


I'm getting my ass in gear. you don't exactly make fandom friends if you're just some reblogger/retweeter. gotta put some input in there.

>> No.3639255

>>3639226
im glad you got something from it. he also has a video on not worshiping idols, i get what you mean though its not 2 good to just go along with whatever someone says.

>> No.3639261

>>3639230
Not entirely sure what you mean by the gaps between progress increasing, is it a time thing, or is it a dealie like "I can't see the progress I'm making in a longer amount of time"?

If it's the latter, that just sounds like a natural sort of thing in the process, as it's super hard to see progress and one tends to think their stuff looks super garbage after a bit, though that's just because of the skill in noticing errors increasing.

If it's the latter, I'd be super lost, as I'm real garbage at scheduling (same anon as a few posts up).

>> No.3639266

Why i can't draw a same character TWICE FOR FUCK SAKE?!? It always looks different from the first one, JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I'm done with this ngmi bullshit.

>> No.3639269

>>3639266
Just keep going man, if it's small diffs that's to be expected. If it's big diffs, just keep practicing.

Also anatomy practice helps

>> No.3639274

>>3637147
try shower, eat, take sleeping pill wake up at 4 pr 5 and practice

>> No.3639286

>>3639205
Have you thought about trying something called maladaptive daydreaming? Although it will either constantly give you new ideas or completely destroy your will to create, you won't feel as lonely anymore :3

>> No.3639291

>>3639205
Damn dude just go out and draw people in a store or a park or some shit, like what, are you in the middle of the woods or Alaska or something?

>> No.3639324

Why can't I draw a character facing fucking forward!? I can only draw 3/4 portrait to the right!! I could spend a goddamn hour on it and it will still be lopsided! Fuck!!

>> No.3639333

>>3639169
>>3639176
Better than just getting shat on. Obviously I'm aware that I suck and trying to get better, so what's the point in calling my art shit without giving any advice on how to improve? Guess it's my own fault for expecting anything useful from this board

>> No.3639356

>>3639261
More time gaming etc less time making progress.

I don't notice the slip and it increases over time until i'm playing vidya and wondering WTF am i doing? I should be making progress etc.

anyway FML can't even get a point across on 4chen, why live.

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>>3636777
I've been called insane in more than one ocasion.

>> No.3639395

I remember feeling fulfilled by art at one point but all I feel now is emptiness. There's nothing I can devote my energies on, no waifus or obscure fetishes to spur me. What is it, that I want from "one day being good at art"? I'd post the "Why do art?" tarot card pic if I could find it.

>> No.3639481

>>3636777
Why did i have to be born autistic
Why can’t i be as good as everybody else

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>>3639481
You can't control that
You can remedy that

>> No.3639484

>>3639483
How?

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>>3639484
effort.

>> No.3639497

>>3639367
People back then post a lot more gruesome shit than your tiddy goth winged gfs.
Tell them to fuck off.

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>>3639484
You know how. You could narrow it down to "just draw".
Draw and have fun doing it. If you're not satisfied with the way you draw, open Loomis, Bridgeman, some of Robertsons shit about perspective, whatever you have trouble doing. Those are tools, use them as such. Art isn't a dumb grind. Find your niche anon, have fun, do finished works, you'll "get good" before you know it.

>> No.3639552

I wish /ic/ threads were faster and less dead.

>> No.3639567

>>3639552
I wish we had enough people to get non /beg/ questions answered and talk about lesser known artists and illustrators. Good threads don't get much traction and art dumps fail to garner discussion.

>> No.3639584

>>3636795
If dubs you quit art forever

>> No.3639588

I hate people that put photo filters on regular pictures and call it a painting.

I hate people asking for only a (insert race) artist to commission.

People who beg for free art are trash.
People who insult an artist and expect them to still help them out are retarded.

Furries who actually fuck animals deserve execution.
Anyone who thinks digital art is less complicated than traditional art, therefore digital art doesn’t deserve any respect are all Luddite cunts.

>> No.3639597

>>3639497
That I will do. Thanks man :)

>> No.3639619

>>3639356
It's cool dude, don't stress over point making.

However, if you want to control the time playing video games, I do suggest writing down specific amounts of time for playing games and sticking to that shit. Setting a timer is a must. Fun and games is all good, but you'll need a motivator to stop if it's gotten like that.

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I actually don't know how to digitally paint and I don't know where to start learning and I'm exceptionally frustrated because of this.

I'm late to the digital game, and because I've been drawing traditionally for the majority of my life I'm very competent in lineart and hatching, but whenever I try to paint digitally my files always end up being a mess of 50+ layers, separate layers for everything, light on different layers, lazy multiply layers, like 3 in different tones. I just don't know what the fuck I'm doing and it sucks because I always end up ruining my beautiful lineart with shitty colouring.

I just wish I knew where and how to start. I feel caught between worlds with how competent my lines are but how fucking garbage my painting is.

>> No.3639649

I hate the shift change I made. I let the day slip by me too much to draw before I need to sleep. Its a dumb excuse, but I only draw 4/7 days a week because of it.

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>>3636795
>UNDER 105 LBS AND OVER 5’6”
why do you want her to be underweight anon

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>>3639648
Holy fucking shit anon you and me have the exact same problem. I cannot paint to save my life, or I'll attempt to add light and shadow onto a base color and it feels like I'm literally making stuff up and ruining the nice linework. Like I understand that the shadow and light shapes are supposed to define form and edge control is supposed to show those shapes but I just can't seem to do it.

I understand anon, it's a special kind of hell. Wish I could offer advice myself other than do painting studies, it's what I plan on doing for a while.

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dropped 500 euro on a tablet and haven't drawn a line since calibrating it
it's fucking amazing but I just have the worst blank canvas dread ever
don't know where it came from but I'm afraid this is it for me

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Between working a shit retail job and having a small child I have about an hour or two in the dead of night to actually draw but it takes me a good while to get into a groove so it always feels cut short

Might be over for me desu but still gonna try

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>>3639717
Nigga please, I got my cintiq 27 a year ago. Used it for shopping memes and games

>> No.3639915

>>3639724
Why the fuck do people give their lives over to breeding.

>> No.3639918

>>3636777
I cant sit down and read the lit for more than about 3 pages at a time before my autism kicks in and I just need to draw. I lose interest in reading very quickly and I feel like im NGMI because of it. Will mileage fill the knowledge gap that im creating by not reading the lit?

>> No.3639923

i want to post my art but after looking at the things others have posted i feel like a hack amateur in comparison and it kills my motivation

>> No.3639924

I have severe depression and my ineptitude with art has a lot to do with it. I have been self-taught and I'm afraid there's only so much I could do that way. After 6 years of trying I was still mediocre, inconsistent, definitely not professional by any means. I quit for one year but it still kept chewing at me no matter what. So I'm trying to start over, quite literally because I have lost whatever tiny piece of skill I used to have. When I think about drawing I legitimately want to kill myself, and when I start drawing I feel so heavy and dejected I often can't bear to do anything but doodle a bit. I mostly draw heads starting with a circle and a cross and failing to do everything afterwards. I see other people's successes online and I feel absolutely miserable despite taking a fuckton of antidepressants every day. I have read all the books and I feel like I'm too dense to gain any benefit from using them. I wanna fucking disappear from this world. I really wanted to do art and this leaves me with nothing. I haven't succeeded in anything else in life.

>> No.3639938

>>3639923
>>3639924
Literally don't look at other's works, cut yourself off from any and all content that doesn't involve the things you are studying. If you can't help looking try finding extensions that hide view counts, follower counts, and amount of favorites/likes. You may feel "guilty" about it, or "weak", but the fact of the matter is that you're in too much of a fragile state to try and bludgeon your way through these feelings.
Once you gain a bit more confidence in yourself and the potentional of your work then you can try to branch out, and try seeing others as a learning resource rather than competion. You'll have up days and down days but above all things you need to keep it from preventing you from producing content, because this results in an incredibly stressful and destructive cycle.

>> No.3639944

>>3639938
It's like this even if I don't look at others. I just see my work and I hold it up to my standards which are just too high. When that happens I start to get sloppy so I produce shittier work and it's a never ending cycle of desperation. Fuck my life.

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>too depressed to draw
>not drawing makes me more depressed
>mfw

>> No.3639948

>>3639938
thanks anon. i needed to hear this from someone.

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>>3639947

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>>3639947

>> No.3639971

>>3639947
Go start lifting bro.

>> No.3640041

>Can't study
>Can't imagine things
>When asked what I want to draw my mind goes blank
>Cannot improve at drawing because I don't know what to draw due to above

WAKE ME UP

>> No.3640043

>>3640041
>Cannot improve at drawing because I don't know what to draw due to above

This is the most retarded complaint. Literally all you have to do is hit random on DA or Wikipedia or whatever the fuck else and draw an anime grill based off what you see.

If creativity is your only problem, you have it a lot better than most of the crabs here.

>> No.3640045

>>3640043
Oh yeah you reminded me of my final issue

>Don't know what I want to draw, but also don't want to just draw "anything"

>> No.3640419

>want to draw in privacy
>live with family members who peek into my bedroom several times every evening after I come home from work
>become paranoid about drawing entirely

Anyone else know this feel?

>> No.3640422

>>3640419
>live with husband
>His computer is across the room but he routinely comes over to my desk to chat with me
>want to draw dicks but I don't want to make him uncomfortable

I know it

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>>3637155
PLease be my friend please

>> No.3640571

>>3640561
forgot my vent.

i spend my day feeling fine, even when im not drawing i don't feel that bad. but when it's bed time and nothing is too distracting anymore, I get so lonely that i want to kill myself. i just eat melatonin and race to sleep, and usually sleep for more than 9 hours sadly.

it isn't directly art related but i just need to let it out.

>> No.3640577

>>3640419
basically my whole entire life. And the way the internet is set up in my room, my computer and tablet have to have the monitor facing the door, which is right across from the bathroom. Fuck, I can not wait to move out.

>>3639588
I don't disagree with you there on the very last one, but the difference between you and me is if I fuck up my inking, I have to either start over or live with a polished turd no matter how good the rest looks, or trace it and waste who knows how much time. If you fuck up your ink, you can lasso and ctrl+z. If my hand is shaky I either don't draw or I slow way the fuck down. If your hand is shaky, you get a stabilizer. You can't deny digital is easIER. Not easy by any stretch, but significantly more forgiving, as well as cheaper in the long haul. Higher upfront cost but I myself have definitely spent more on my traditional supplies than for my tablets and program in the last 10 years.

>> No.3640583

>>3637395
get out anon
I pandered to /co/ a few years ago and it's not worth it. Glad I got out and ventured to other areas

>> No.3640590

>>3637200
this is the truth. Damn, this hit home out of nowhere. I'm kind of fucking mad now. All my old friends are still trying to cling onto that high schooler life even though we've been out of it for like 8 years now.
Constantly wanting to hang out and do shit together and wanting me to waste my weekends going to the same places we've been 1000 times for there to be nothing new. Hell one of them got mad at me last week because I went and saw Venom and didn't make it a "group thing." Fucking waste of time. I'm finished with that shit.
I want to focus on me and the career I want to have and everybody else seems to be hell bent on distracting me and trying to pull me away from the steps I need to take to achieve that goal.
Yet they're the ones who "want me to succeed the most!"
My favorite is when they come at me with shit like "you can't stay in your room every single weekend and every day before work! Come on dude come hang out with us!" yet they try to do this shit to me every single weekend. Fuck you guys.

>> No.3640593

>>3639367
stop hanging around mega normies

>> No.3640598

I kind of miss talking to someone who lurks this place until I realise she's a gigantic aspie with anger management problems. Absolute toxic atmosphere when around her. I had to cut ties because it started to get downhill real fast

>> No.3640607

>>3640598
Is she gud tho?

>> No.3640610

>>3640607
good and cute enough but can be better if she's still drawing

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>>3637212
>>3637300
i'm glad i could help, even if only a little bit ;w;

>>3640561
>>3640561
i had this exact same problem for years, podcasts really helped. one i was particularly fond of was radiolab, mbmbam too but you might not click with their comedy style. also dumb youtube videos, like giant bomb or super best friends or any of those channels where someone with a nice, kind voice explains things to me that i'm too dumb to understand on my own. i know it's cheap friend simulation but it helps. i'd just listen to or watch something like that till i passed out. that and rainymood got me through some very tough years. things have gotten better, i managed to find nicer friends, i finally started a medical thing that i'd been putting off for way too long, i even somehow found a partner. things do get better, anon, i promise. even when they don't feel like it. hell, even i don't feel like things are gonna get better at the moment, everything is stressful and it feels like nothing is working out and i constantly fear my friends and partner merely tolerate my existence. but i know from experience in the past that these are lies and as long as i keep at it and keep working things will work out. eventually a;ldfj.

dumb image to prove i'm still me
post some way i can contact you
also forewarning, most if not nearly every single person on this board would probably call me an ess jay double-you so if that's a deal breaker you probably wouldn't wanna waste your time on me.

>> No.3640672

>>3640667
Is that eraser guard actually useful? I keep seeing it on amazon and thinking 'I should buy that', but then all the situations I imagine using it seem totally contrived and not going to happen.

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>>3640672
it is incredibly useful if you run into a lotta smudging problems when erasing like i do (and i erase a loooot, tho having the ability to more easily, cleanly erase has ironically made me erase less (tho note my sketchbooks are usually incredibly messy regardless). unfortunately i tend to draw a bit too small for it to be amazing but it's still great and i'm glad i spent the like $1.50 it cost at michaels for one. also if you prefer hardback sketchbooks with those elastic bands to hold it shut (moleskine style, but i tend to go for the cheaper store brands hahasdf) it stores incredibly easy, like a bookmark almost.

>> No.3640682

>>3640679
Okay thanks anon. I'll add it to the cart. I'll blindly buy something that costs $12.74 and never use it but it's the cheap knickknacks that I deliberate over eternally.

>> No.3640683

>>3640682
whoah whoah whoah before buying it at that price i'd check any local art supply stores, it shouldn't cost more than a couple dollars ;-;

>> No.3640684

>>3640683
oh a;sldfj oh my gosh apologies i jus realized i misread your comment, was just worried you were about to pay way too much

>> No.3640691

>>3640684
Lol thanks. It is actually overpriced on amazon though. Like 8 dollars for name brand. Maybe I will go to Michael's.

>> No.3640724

>>3636777
> Taking three classes while working
I should have become a STEMfag. At least I would be stressed out for the right reasons.

>> No.3641271

>>3636777
I am honing my manga skills on fucking America. I'm learning to draw mostly as self-fulfillment, I want to be like Murata and Miura. But then I started thinking
>"Hey maybe one day I could make money out of this"
and it got depressing. When looking at art communities, the most popular things are anime chicks, realistic chicks, nsfw shit, or overrendered shit like Sakimichan and Ruan Jia. Those are the things that catch the eye of the average viewer I guess.

It makes me think that if I was literally Miura/Murata, I'd just be mildly popular on social networks and that's it. And I don't know if people even ask comissions that way. Does anyone even pay for armored dudes and people fighting with sick anatomy and motion?

>> No.3641435

>>3641271
you're being too hard on yourself, anon. First of all, you likely won't achieve Murata status in the next 10 years. And secondly, there's a market for everything. Think about every commission people have gotten from those fucks on deviantart or furaffinity who are still using MS Paint or hiding hands in their shitty looking Sonic "fan art." They've made money before. Just focus on you. As long as you're putting your heart into a picture, the audience will find you naturally. One Punch Man had a shit ton of readers as a webcomic before Murata came along. One just had a story to tell, and so he told it, and grew a good following. Murata has the skill, yes, but One put the heart into it.

>> No.3641510

>>3641271
you need a popular story to reach Miura/Murata tier in popular level
also people who ask commissions like to have their shit rendered
you better draw manga if you want to put their skill to best use

>> No.3641666

>>3639648
>>3639713

MARCO BUCCI (youtube)

>> No.3641702

>>3641271
>When looking at art communities, the most popular things are anime chicks, realistic chicks, nsfw shit, or overrendered shit like Sakimichan and Ruan Jia. Those are the things that catch the eye of the average viewer I guess.

Either bait the reader with what maintream likes, gather followers and slowly introduce changes or more personal things under the cover

Or

Don't care, do exactly what you want, and aim for a niche following rather than pleasing everyone. A niche is still money.

>> No.3641767

All the current threads are shitt

>> No.3641781

>>3640598
I-I'm sorry... Been trying my hardest to be better.

>> No.3641796

>>3640598
Every word of this , I had to do the same thing a while ago to a really good friend of mine
ps: wanna talk i believe we're talking about the same person

>> No.3641838

>>3641796
>>3641781
I don't think we're talking about the same person as there's plenty of anons with the same situation in this website. However I'm sorry if I sounded harsh and struck you a nerve. We are in a vent thread after all.

Though if you really think this is the same person you can drop me a message anytime. I no longer know where this person is but I wish you and her all the best.

>> No.3641839
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3641839

i actually have aphantasia
i only just realized this a year after of drawing and trying to figure out why im incapable of rotating objects in my head or having a visual eye

JUST

FUCK

MY

SHIT

UP

>> No.3641842

>>3641839
here's my take
I believe people with supposedly aphantasia can still practice their visual muscles, it's just that they have to take maybe 3x more effort to get on the visual level of other pro artists. I couldn't imagine a rotating object myself a few years ago but I could do that now although still blurry after forcing myself to practice perspective

>> No.3641845

>>3641839
>i actually have aphantasia
you mean legit diagnose or "internet" one?

>> No.3641847

>>3641845
considering i cant for the fucking life of me even see my own car in my head much less an actual person theres something very wrong with me

>> No.3641873

>>3641839
Get fucked loser lmao

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>>3641838
?

>> No.3641889

>>3641884
Disregard parts of my posts they're directed to the other anon

>> No.3641915

It hurts to draw and it hurts to not draw. I'm deeply depressed. It comes and goes but never really leaves. It manifests itself in the form of fear. I really am afraid of everything. I don't want to watch shows I know I will probably like. I don't want to draw even if I have time and ideas. I don't want to spend time with people no matter how bored or lonely I get but I watch other people interacting on Twitter etc.and hear stories from co-workers about friends and remember my own past bonds with people

And I feel like I've been broken open, like my ribcage is just lying open like a cartoon mammoth corpse long since rotted out and bleached by sun in the fucking windy ass dessert. I feel stranded. Art has grounded me and given me something to hold onto throughout my life in all its presentations, illustration, animation, comics, games, whatever. Now I not only can't bring myself to draw, I'm afraid to enjoy the work of others.

I often see these clips in my head of just drawing crisp lines in black ink. Concepts I want to actualize. I'm in overstimulated agony that has reached its peak through me honing it in all my life by grinding my senses to dust and then leaving myself stranded with none of the stimulation I am used to. I want to draw the things I like and make them pretty. I swear I try hard.

I don't think I'm gonna make it, not just in art. Art borrows from life. I guess my art is also a competent metaphor for my failure to function. I want to make it. I want everyone to make it and be happy.

>> No.3641918

>>3638529
this really

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>>3636777
hi anons its me again im still sad alright thank you, oppa gangnam style

>> No.3641994

>>3637716
This happens to me when i think is art as work and not fun. I find warming up with exercises and then copying art i like for about an hour or so gives me the confidence and enjoyment to fuel me for the rest of the day.

>> No.3641995

>>3638001
It be like that, everyone has ups and downs

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>>3636777
Trips, nice.
I haven't slept in two days. Jobless. I am going to the doctor in 4 hours. I haven't been to the doctor in over a year. I'm chronically depressed, overwhelmingly anxious and struggling with PTSD and agorophobia. I hope the doctor can help. I've been trying to get better at drawing, but haven't been able to make much progress due to aforementioned ailments. I know that I can make it, but I also constantly want to die.

>> No.3642045

>>3641915
I feel you anon. I try to draw everyday, but even if I had an ok time while drawing I feel nothing at the end, and I'm asking myself why I'm even doing this.

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Now that I have a full time job I can afford all the art materials I want, but now I have no free time to actually create and I don’t have the option to go back down to part time because then I’ll lose my health insurance and my meds cost $300 a month without it.

>> No.3642067

>>3642061
That's the cost of having a full time job. You now have to choose priorities and better plan a drawing routine.

>> No.3642347

Always thought I'd keep art as a hobby since I've never enjoyed the process of selling art and everything with it, I also despise working from home and want to work with others. Recently got a job at a shipyard which I never would have thought I'd get considering my physical ineptitude.

Issue is that it's making me realize just how asinine I am at the most basic of shit and that my only moderate skill is in art. Starting to feel like I need to get a job in art. But what kind of art job let's me work at a studio with other artists in which I would actually enjoy? Oh, yeah, big triple A gaming studios because why would any smaller company spend the cash for brick and morter locations when they can just outsource artists through the internet.

Going to Blizzcon this year and stressing out over putting together a portfolio even though I know its more.of hoping they can point me in a good direction.

I just wish I had that drive I use to have before a full time job now that I feel like I'm being selfish for not pursuing an art career earlier. I really thought I'd want to keep it a hobby but man, it feels like the only thing I'm decent at and it just feels wrong to not be doing it as my career.

>> No.3642359

>>3642347
The good news is you have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.3642363

>>3642045
lmao

>> No.3642368

>>3641666
This looks good, I'll give give this a try. Thank you Anon.

>> No.3642370

>>3642359
Sounds accurate.

>> No.3642452

I wish a car would hit me so I don't have to gather the courage to kill myself

>> No.3642453

>>3642026
It's okay anon. It's all okay.

>> No.3642472
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3642472

i no longer possess any creative motivation because i secretly despise drawing since coming to acknowledge everything i produce looks like shit.

despite having filled out multiple sketchbooks with rushed, unfinished fundamentals, perspective and portrait studies, and despite having no social life with hours of spare time to fill, i have never once actually committed to producing a single piece of work.

whats more i demonstrate no signs of improvement as i either fall into a miserable dissociative state with my studies, or find ways to procrastinate, in which case i will feel guilty for the duration of whatever it is i am doing.

i often find myself simply sitting at my desk, not actually doing anything, as i find it more enjoyable than drawing

>> No.3642633

>>3636795
Rolling for waif waifu

>> No.3642634

>>3642633
Haha YES! See you later, virgins!

>> No.3642636

>>3642634
godspeed anon you're gmi!

>> No.3642680

I volunteered for face painting last weekend and it was the happiest Ive ever been while doing any kind of art

I genuinely love doing it and wish I could make it a career

>> No.3642735

>>3639205
Wew lad.
I also watch a lot of twitch streams, usually one at a time though. I don't interact much in the chats since I'm drawing or painting, but it's nice hearing conversations and even better if they're all drawing too.

You should try joining a Hangouts session, I know the LAS discord has them every day, people all drawing together and you can see what they're working on.

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>>3640679
>>3640667
you seem a kind person anon, I'm sure your friends and partner aren't just tolerating you. I don't post in these threads usually but it's nice to see someone replying to people with helpful thoughts.

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>>3636777
>>3641839
I realized the other day that I've completely squandered my natural abilities. When I was a kid I went though a bunch of tests for things, and some were mental and IQ type ones. I did fine or better than fine on all of them, but I scored way above average in two areas; memory and spatial intelligence.

Tests like that card game where you have to remember where different cards are and match pairs, I would remember all of them and play better than an adult would. And when it came to spatial awareness, where they'd show me a picture of a model and ask me to rotate it in my head, or which picture was which one rotated, I'd get it right straight away without even trying.

I was never a kid who drew much though, reading was always my thing. And when I started getting interested in art at 17 or 18, and then with doing it since then, I've been more focused on getting things "right", and took long breaks from art for work, or just did studies forever.

I had fucking abnormally high spatial skills and memory from an early age but never drew all the time for fun or otherwise. Maybe it'll be easier for me to get into things from now on, but god it kills me to think that I could have got to KJG levels if I'd been more into sketchbooks than book books when I was younger.

>> No.3642813

>>3642453
Thank you, anon.

>> No.3642851

I'm not going to fap any more. Even if I feel stressed. I think my roommate saw me fapping through the blinds. I want to die.

>> No.3642869

>>3642851
condolences

>> No.3642882

>>3640679
I like your art a bunch! I doubt you'll share a blog or anything, but could you maybe share some of your inspirations/favorite artists?

>> No.3642898

I feel like I never actually improve! So instead i go through this cycle where I draw relgiously for a few months, get mad at my lack of progress, stop drawing for a few weeks, get mad at how lazy I am being and then come back to drawing a bit worse than when I started again. I wish I had a style or anything that could be a clear marker of improvement.
Maybe some type of drawing buddy that chellenged me? I dunno, I'm just spitballing here.

>> No.3642973

>>3642898
If you're not improving, that just means you have room to grow, anon. In this case, maybe you need to grow your growing skills?

>> No.3642976

>>3642806
Hhow old are you now? And post your work

>> No.3643004

>>3642973
How does one do that?

>> No.3643013

>>3643004
Maybe taking advantages of your more religious drawing periods to form habits that carry over into your less enthusiastic periods, so you at least preserve the progress you make?
There's loads of books dealing with habits, but one thing that helps is giving yourself a cue that means you're about to start drawing. when I was more diligent about this shit I had a desk lamp specifically for when I was drawing, and then later I wanted to get away from my computer, so I'd sit on my bed to draw. Fucked my sleep up, but it worked to get me drawing.

>> No.3643164

I found an old artwork of mine and it's deeply horrifying just how awful it is and how I once thought that it was pretty good.

I'm scared of how I'm not always able to truly tell how awful my stuff is, at least without having to wait for a few days. I wish I can just erase my memory of my current piece instantly and get a truly fresh perspective

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>>3636777
Looking back on my past (teenage years and early adulthood), I can find many things that I regret.
It would be easy to build a case against me and frame me as an abuser, a horrible partner...
Sometimes I feel really afraid about my future, nowadays things like that can ruin a career that barely exists, and there's nothing I can do about it.
If I could reset my life I sincerely would.

>> No.3643721

>>3643591
Most people have been or currently are shitty people. Most people move on or forget, as long as you make efforts to improve as a person I dont think it'll matter down the road. You can't really stop yourself from achieving your dreams just because of fear; that's self-punishment.

Be anonymous or have a pseudonym if you're that worried.

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>>3636777
I couldn't get to work these past few days. Inktober has been a bitch, I can't finish drawings, it all looks like shit. I don't get how everyone does nice lines, I just can't get anything right. It's been ages since I drew for fun, because everything looks terrible, it could look so much better if I improved just a bit.
I'll push myself to draw more tomorrow.

>> No.3643743

>>3643729
ilu anon, we can make it together, i am your fren..

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>>3642026
you are so brave leaving your house and seeking help. i was in a very similar situation several times in my life, it's so hard and difficult but i promise you it's worth it, seeking help is always worth it. i hope the doctor's visit went well.

>>3642757
thank you, i know i shouldn't let it get to me but i know i can be pretty annoying and overwhelming sometimes even tho i've been trying really hard to work on it, i get so scared i shut myself down and talk as little as possible. it's why i like 4chan, it's anonymous and there's no pressure and if i accidentally say something dumb or annoy someone it doesn't last. it's like my social anxiety doesn't exist as long as no one knows who i am or how to find me. apologies for just randomly dumping my problems on you hasdf

>>3642806
i didn't start drawing till i was 16. i know i'm not amazing, but i used to feel the same, kicking myself for spending so much time on other things like video games or movies or music. i know how to play like 5 different instruments, do you know how many hours that took? imagine if i had put all that time into drawing instead. but now i look back on it and i think how much my understanding of music and timing plays heavily into skills for animation, or how it influences my creative thought in any situation. all the art i obsessively stare at and video games i've beaten forwards and backwards and movies and animations i've rewatched over and over again, songs and albums i've burnt into my brain from how often i've listened to them, they all feed back into my creative process. if i was only versed in one discipline i'd only be creating work with the thought process of that single discipline, but instead i'm bringing the feelings and stylings of everything i love back into everything else i create. don't think of it as having wasted time reading too many book books, think of how you can take your love of reading and everything you've learned from that and let it influence your art.

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>>3643164
that just means you have improved immensely since then! don't think of how you'll look back on your current work and shake your head, think of how you're gonna keep improving and get better and better!! i definitely feel you on the fresh eyes thing tho, it would certainly allow me to work much faster.

>>3642882
thank you! you're too kind. i feel like i've regressed a bit since the ones you responded too tho ;-; they're from november iirc. also i apologize for not linking out to any way to follow my work, part of why i post here is i like being nobody. i would love to tell you about my favorite artists tho! but i have like a million of them and there's not enough space here, let alone i'm incapable of remembering all of them at the same time. i will say that my top two are mike mignola and hiroyuki imaishi. i'm also a huge fan of fisher who you may know from this board, and i also absolutely adore ronald wimberly's work
other important influences:
onta/doxy (the reason i started drawing in the first place)
gatogato (she used to maintain this wonderful blog with tons of great tutorials/examinations of why certain pieces of art worked that has unfortunately been deleted, along with some feedback she gave me and my work long ago when i was first starting out basically makes her the entire reason i'm any good at drawing)
an then jus to list a buncha random ones i love:
grind3h, a_4_k_a, bengus, yoh yoshinari, mitsuo iso, kazuya tsurumaki, daisuke nakayama, takeshi koike, sayo yamamoto, also i've been getting a lot into seth mcghee (aka @bkrbnr) a lot lately, especially his rendering style, i know he used to post here too. i go through cycles of obsessing over certain artists and pouring over their work trying to distill why i like it. i also pretty much take in influence from literally anything i see that i like, even if it's only parts of a piece like how they drew this one hand or how they stylized clothing wrinkles etc, etc.

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>>3642026
you are so brave leaving your house and seeking help. i was in a very similar situation several times in my life, it's so hard and difficult but i promise you it's worth it, seeking help is always worth it. i hope the doctor's visit went well.

>>3642757
thank you ;w;

>>3642806
i didn't start drawing till i was 16. i know i'm not amazing, but i used to feel the same, kicking myself for spending so much time on other things like video games or movies or music. i know how to play like 5 different instruments, do you know how many hours that took? imagine if i had put all that time into drawing instead. but now i look back on it and i think how much my understanding of music and timing plays heavily into skills for animation, or how it influences my creative thought in any situation. all the art i obsessively stare at and video games i've beaten forwards and backwards and movies and animations i've rewatched over and over again, songs and albums i've burnt into my brain from how often i've listened to them, they all feed back into my creative process. if i was only versed in one discipline i'd only be creating work with the thought process of that single discipline, but instead i'm bringing the feelings and stylings of everything i love back into everything else i create. don't think of it as having wasted time reading too many book books, think of how you can take your love of reading and everything you've learned from that and let it influence your art.

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3643865

I wish I could talk to all the people I hurt and disappointed in the past and tell them I'm sorry, but I'm sure they're having none of it because I'm just that much of a sack of shit and even if I changed it would still mean nothing.
It haunts me everyday and I can't let go of my mistakes and it makes me want to die.
I also draw like trash and I never deserved such an amazing person notice me and get to know how horrible I am, and if youre reading this I'm sorry I made you go through that experience, I'm so fucking sorry.

>> No.3643892

>>3636777
I fucking hate myself. I hate everything I draw. I often get too afraid to draw, making me only do a few doodles a day. I will remain shit because I fear shit. I constantly doubt that I'm made to be an artist. It depresses me because art is all I care and think about.

I still haven't finished the first page of my webcomic.

>> No.3643893

>>3643865
i am reading this nkly, go practice your fundies and do a few still lifes

>> No.3643911

>>3643591
apologize to those you've wronged, don't worry about whether or not they accept it, a true, honestly apology is what matters here. if you really are sorry and really do regret your actions you can do this. be open about your mistakes. if someone calls you on your past shit don't try to hide from it, show that you're growing by acknowledging what you did wrong, why it was wrong, and doing your best to right those wrongs and not commit the same mistakes again. your framing near the end of your post makes me worry you don't actually care about the impact of what you've done, only that it can come back to haunt you. please, i really hope i am wrong on that assumption. i have, or i guess had, a friend who turned out to be horribly manipulative and abusive to all of his exes along with multiple others, some of them mutal friends. he used to have 22k followers, he now has ~19k. most don't care, he still has a his following and continues to probably make almost the same amount of money off his work. he's also lost nearly every friend as well as been excised from all of his social circles

>>3643729
don't feel the need to keep up with other artists you feel are better than you, don't compare yourself to others in general. i'm sure you're still doing amazing all things considered, don't beat yourself up over your creative output, it's dangerous to place your self worth in what you can create. i know from experience. please know you're still just as important to your friends and family even if you never draw another thing in your life, not that you should stop. just please don't fall for the trap of thinking you're only worth what you can create.

>>3643865
i'm probably projecting but i worry i know who you are and i'm sorry things are like this, i want nothing more than to hold you and let you know everything's gonna be okay. but i know you need your space and to be alone and i want to respect that, but please know how much you mean to me.

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>>3643911
forgot this

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>>3643893
forgot this

>> No.3643947

I'm not happy with but not terribly disgusted with my figures and faces anymore, and now I want to take on an actual project, but I find my environment skills weaker than I'd like. There are so many great books and videos on the figure and face that have helped me, but I don't really know where to start with convincing environments, let alone inventing them. Can anyone point me towards some good shit? I already have that one Hamm book, landscapes and seascapes, but..

>> No.3643950

>>3643947
nathan fowkes? doing plein air is important too, probably the most vital skill here

>> No.3643968

>>3642806
Post drawings, superman

>> No.3644010

>>3643911
>apologize to those you've wronged
Is there a way to know wich stuff is worth talking about and wich stuff would cause damage if mentioned again?

>> No.3644033

>>3643865
I don't hate you anon but I hope you're doing better these days

>> No.3644062

>>3639725
you can always mail it to someone who'll use it
(((me))) :^)

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>commission an artist
>they fuck off the face of the earth

I don't want to be a dick because they're a friend of a friend, but I commissioned them a month ago and all I've gotten is a sketch. They haven't been active anywhere in 2 weeks.

>> No.3644138

I hate that I can't self-insert myself into my figure drawings. It feels like it could help so much and finally let me "feel the form".

>> No.3644157

>>3643865
I want to believe so bad this is coming someone who done wrong to me in the past but that person doesn't even browse this board and still insufferable as ever

>> No.3644164

>>3643865
>>3643591
share your problems
What did you guys do to hurt and wrong others?

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>>3643911
>i'm probably projecting but i worry i know who you are
Your words are too kind.
If you're right over knowing me then I'm sorry you had to see me being a dipshit.
>>3644164
I shit talked artists I didn't like and I was generally the jackass nobody wants around.
I also stopped posting drawings once anxiety worked its magic on me so all I ever posted was bitching and moaning and no work. It was the first time I was getting something out of my ugly stuff too so I never really figured out how to interact with my followers in a meaningful way.
Looking back at it, it was all super childish and unnecessary, it makes me feel even worse about it

>> No.3644257

>>3636777
wanting to roast shitty artists but all them got scared off from being roasted too much.

>> No.3644265

>>3644257
same
most seldom post in /asg/ anymore

>> No.3644285

>>3636777
I just want to make friends with other people here without getting too compettitive and petty with each other. God I'm so lonely

>> No.3644293

>>3639205
>sometimes I'll put on 6 or 7 twitch (art) streams, and put them at varying volumes so its like I'm in a classroom
that's so fucking smart, I am going to do that right now

>> No.3644309

>>3643762
You seem like a pretty cool guy and I wish you have a good day

>> No.3644342

People are burning me for my drawings now. As in not literally. Crap.

>> No.3644368

>>3644342
as in roasting you?
Share us your problems

>> No.3644381

>>3644368
Regarding a certain 4chan related competition, I know I had a terrible design and colouring choice, so I'm going to attempt to fix that if I had a chance.
But roasts are still roasts, I can learn from it but it hurts regardless. I wish I can go back in time and slap myself before I make such terrible design choices.

>> No.3644394

>>3644381
It's alright. You just gotta have thicker skin, learn from your mistakes and do better next time

were you the vtuber mascot winner?

>> No.3644403

>>3644394
Nope.

>> No.3644407

>>3644394
Yeah, I was.
I really fucking regret all the copy-paste shit I submitted. I can do better, but I didn't put ant effort into it at all.

>> No.3644413

>>3644394
Not >>3644407 btw.

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Not a real life issue whatsoever but it’s vent thread so I’ll shoot. I could use my gender and decent looks to boost my art career and get 10k followers on ig/twitter but I stay anonymous on my art blog and maintain a 200 follower twitter.
It’s so tempting to become a booby streamer on twitch and draw cute anime shit all day and make lots of money but I just feel like it’s too sleazy a thing to do. I fear that when I’m in my late 20s and my looks are fading I’ll regret not taking advantage of male horniness, especially during the early years of streaming where it’s not an oversaturated market. In a few years it just won’t be possible. But self respect, lol.

>> No.3644482

>>3644458
You should take advantage while you can, your life will be a lot harder once you’re post wall.

>> No.3644499

>>3644458
just whore yourself out bro, there's nothing creepy about that
just flip a coin to decide

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>start seriously 2 weeks ago because I want to get gud
>begin Peter han
>doing well, saw improvements in week1 exercises, comparing my first page to my 17th page
>begin week 2
>having a bit of trouble understanding so google examples
>everyone is infinitely better than me while mine looks like wobbly trash
>click a blog
>see their week 1 works
>their lines are clean as fuck, and its only their first page
>they can do arcs, ellipses, and waves too
I want to kill myself. is the talent meme real?

>> No.3644573

>>3644563
Muscle memory and fine motor control is something that you can train. If you just started out it may be that you've just not had cause to work on thise things. I've got a problem with wobbly lines too, but I think a good chunk of my problem is holding the pencil/pen in a death grip.

Pay attention to the tensions in your arm, hand, shoulders, and neck. When you feel like they're tensing up take a second to relax them.

>> No.3644596

>>3644458
You know you could just marry someone and have financial security without having to show your tits to the world, right? So long as you pick a person who doesn't want children, you'll have a lot of free time to draw even if you're in a relationship where you're the one with house duties, and being just two people and maybe a pet, you wouldn't even have that much to deal with anyway even if we're being really old fashioned about it.

Housewives only have it hard when they have kids or an abusive partner, girl.

>> No.3644615

>>3644407
Why did you give her skirt side holes?

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>>3644458
this is why most of this board/website doesn't trust women

>> No.3644669

>>3644563
Serious improvements take about 6 weeks of regular training and correction, because science.

>> No.3644696

>>3643911
>i have, or i guess had, a friend who turned out to be horribly manipulative and abusive
>he's also lost nearly every friend as well as been excised from all of his social circles
I get that asking for forgiveness is more about finding some inner peace, but I feel that he would face the same consequences if he apologized beforehand, as you're suggesting, don't you think?
My regret is legit, if I had a guarantee that my actions wouldn't bring me any problem, I'd still change them, but you see how the fear is justified? I feel like I'm fucked either way.

>> No.3644719

>>3644563
>start seriously 2 weeks ago
That's your only problem anon. It'll take time, don't sweat it. The best thing you can do now is to keep going, and learn to keep things fun and draw what you like. Long term that'll serve you as well as the fundies will.

>> No.3644724

I constantly get art block every few weeks. When I'm having trouble drawing/everything starts looking shit I'll try to do "studies" as people describe them. Then lose all passion and stop drawing all together for a couple weeks.

Friends constantly praise and encourage my shit but when i literally can't study without all interest draining out of me it feels super undeserved.

>> No.3644745

>>3644724
That's a normal thing anon. You're not alone.

>> No.3644748

>>3636777
>tfw in art school and just became worse in art and depressed and unsure

wtf?

>> No.3644752

>>3644458
>late 20s
>looks fading

Maybe white girls really do have it hard

>> No.3644766

>>3644752
just white girls. Asian girls have the superior genes because neoteny

>> No.3644776

>>3644458
I... don't believe you are who you say you are.

- Take it from someone in a similar situation.

>> No.3644777

>>3641847
Are you an NPC

>> No.3644778

>>3636884

Just draw with the other hand.

>notgonnamakeit.jpeg

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>>3644010
>>3644696
this is very contextual and since i don't know the specifics i can't really help here but you also probably wanna keep those specifics off sites like 4chan. if you were sexually and/or physically abusive there's pretty much no coming back from that, you're gonna be exiled and no offense but if you were this bad you probably should be. that doesn't mean it's impossible to grow and come back from that but some people are never going to forgive you and you just have to accept that. you gotta accept that no one has to forgive you. but believe it or not it's not gonna ruin your career. the reality of the situation is that if you're well known enough that it becomes a big public thing you're also well known enough that you have a large enough following to float through, much like my now ex-friend. if you're small time it will probably ruin a few close relationships, most likely as it should because you did hurt these people and those that care about them, but ultimately you're so small no one beyond that will care and if you do start making a name for yourself it ends up as some chapter of growth in your life to the vast majority of those in the public because the world is fucked up like that. if my father stopped drinking and got his shit together people would be like "whoah, look how far you've come!" and not "wow, you really fucked up your wife and kids with all the drinking and beatings and emotional abuse and what not". one of the last things my grandmother asked of me before she passed on was to "please, be nicer to him". nice for what

>>3644239
apologies, i was projecting and you weren't who i thought you were, tho i still worry i know who you are in which case you have hurt friends of mine. there's probably not much you can do for them personally besides apologizing for what you did and accepting that they might blow you off regardless.

>>3644309
i don't deserve it but thank you

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>>3644752
I'm a brown girl

>> No.3644863

>>3644847
kys pedo

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>>3644239
Hey anon, I hope you're doing ok. I'm not the other guy and I'm probably projecting too but I'll just vent it anyway.
I'm sorry for suddenly ghosting and unfollowing you, and before that, I'm guilty as well of making cryptic vagueposting out of frustration. That was a dick move I'm really sorry for that. I wish you still find happiness in drawing or anything that's making you happy right now. I don't hate you and I hope you're doing ok and more kinder with yourself. Godspeed and don't ever give up

>> No.3644877

>>3642806
>everyone thinks they are special

well you ought to share your work lad

>> No.3644886

I'm too tired from work to draw :(

>> No.3644887

I don't want to go to college or participate in life in general. Everything is such a god damn chore and bore and the only thing I want to do is draw. I'n lazy as fuck so I'll just keep making more problems for myself because of how little of a shit I give nowadays.

>> No.3644889

>>3644871
>>3644829
you two are projecting way too hard

>>3644886
wake up early to draw instead or get more exercise

>> No.3644895

>>3644889
I work 12 hour shifts and would have less hours in the day, were I to have enough sleep to get up before work. I'm fucked, anon.

>> No.3644896

>>3644895
Time to start polishing your resume.

>> No.3644897

>>3644895
how about on weekends?

>> No.3644909

>>3644897
then i don't feel like it

>> No.3645259

>>3644909
ngmi

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>>3644871
Thank you.
I'm actually a bit shocked right now and I dont really know what else to say but
I'll do my best from now on.

>> No.3645401

>>3643758
it'd be sad to never see your art or personality/general vibe again. email is rubberenvelope@airmail.cc , if you want to mail a link to a blog, maybe from some throwaway service that lets you send mail or something idk

>> No.3645718

>>3644596
The cuck boy that would agree to having a chick live for free in his house is extremely unattractive to girls. Would you shack up with some 400lbs jabba the hutt to save on rent?

>> No.3645721

I may be a sparklet

What do you do when you have no talent?

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>>3645401
sent

>> No.3646584

Why do so many shitty artist make it?

>> No.3646847

>>3645955
thank