/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.7509133]

Is art regression real?

[Anonymous No.7509148]

>>7509133
only if you become complacent or suffer severe cognitive decline ie frank miller

[Anonymous No.7509151]

>>7509133
What's happening here? Why did he redraw it?

[Anonymous No.7509152]

post your work

[Anonymous No.7509156]

>>7509133
that's your art on digital

[Anonymous No.7509256]

I think some people
>run out of ideas
>try to improve their art through study, but wind up losing appeal in the process, either due to overthinking everything, or overriding some of the natural appeal their work had by trying to draw everything the so-called "right way"
>similar too above, they get too lost in the process and focus on judging some metric of artistic improvement, to the point that they somehow lose the ability to step back, look at their work, and simply determine if what they're drawing even looks good
>brain gets too cluttered with information that they can't clearly just draw something good
>experiment in ways which don't work out
>go outside of their comfort zone which results in lower quality work
>forced to work under some sort of tight schedule
I honestly think very few artists regress because they stop caring, and people arguing that an artist "fell off" due to lack of care either aren't artists, or are artists coping with the fact that art isn't some sort of endlessly upward trajectory of improvement, and that sometimes artists will indeed experience a quality decline which they can't seem to escape.
Like in your example, the right is perhaps technically better - better anatomy, better depiction of form, less wonkiness in feature placement, but yeah, the simplicity and emotion conveyed on the left results in a much more appealing series of drawings, even if they're worse in a technical sense.

[Anonymous No.7509258]

>>7509133
so the male face and muscles on the monster (especially the traps) improved?

[Anonymous No.7509285]

>>7509133
yeah, its happened to me many times.

[Anonymous No.7509334]

>>7509256
>I honestly think very few artists regress because they stop caring
I disagree, I think a lot of people stop caring because they get burned out on the industry part of the art, because there's drawing, and there is social connections and being forced to do things you may not want, after a decade or two most resiliant people are bound to become jaded.
I think there's a balance somewhere where you get to be stable financially while doing things you enjoy at the same time.

[Anonymous No.7509341]

>>7509151
Much like anime gets cleaned up for BD releases, manga gets retouched when a tankobon gets released. It's one of the main pulls to buy them.

[Anonymous No.7509439]

>>7509133
>わかったよ
>I DIDN'T KNOW
Lol.

>>7509156
Both of those are trad retard.

[Anonymous No.7509442]

>>7509258
>668 (magazine pages)
>130 (tankoubon pages)
Left is the new one.

[Anonymous No.7509466]

>>7509148
>suffer severe cognitive decline ie frank miller
need some blackpills on that nigga

[Anonymous No.7509485]

>>7509466
it's a whitepill if anything, guy still kept working and selling comics despite being brain damaged and drawing like a schizo

[Anonymous No.7509544]

>>7509466
severe alcoholism is bad for your brain

[Anonymous No.7509587]

>>7509466
He had cancer which aged him like 20 years in 5, kids kept trying to "cancel" him and now nodraws and permabegs try to make a laughing stock about him and his style because they have never held a pencil in their lives.

[Anonymous No.7509615]

>>7509587
>He had cancer which aged him like 20 years in 5
this is also true
>now nodraws and permabegs try to make a laughing stock about him and his style
missing the point. look at his work on daredevil for example, a very good example of just how good he was. contrast that now to his current work and you can very clearly see his brain was fucked in the ass (either by cancer meds or alcoholism but likely both). the loss in coordination and brain damage he suffered are quite apparent

[Anonymous No.7509849]

Honestly Frank Miller's new stuff isn't that bad, yeah it's a massive departure compared to stuff like his sin city works, but I think that makes it ugly is the way that it's colored.
Left is original, right is a fanmade one.
DC keep coloring his shit like it's a 90s image comics artist with gradients and shiny shit, when it doesn't suit him at all

[Anonymous No.7509853]

>>7509133
More accurate features, placement, forms and proportion in the new one

The old one had more SOVL, perhaps because it's traditionally done, and you can see the finer lines, more raw, on the nose, that hand, that monster face. But they have that disproportionate imperfection, like if you flip image of the old one you see it clearly.

The lines on the new one is so obvious digital with the smoothing and assist. And look at the ugly collar in the second panel. It looks 2D. The original had better techniques to convey texture and shading.

A redraw with new accurate proportion + old SOVL trad inking would've been better desu famalam desu.

[Anonymous No.7509858]

>>7509133
Yagi is known for drawing eggheads, all his heads looked like fetal alcohol syndrome babies with macrocephaly.

[Anonymous No.7510005]

>>7509439
分かった implies that you didn't know before but know now. "i didn't know (that)" is a fine translation

[Anonymous No.7510676]

>>7509133
Can't tell which one was the better looking one before reading the thread. I prefer left claire.


>>7509849
Both look just as bad lol

[Anonymous No.7510843]

>>7509133
this is what happens when you replace soul with fundies.

[Anonymous No.7510890]

>>7509133
Yes, just look at Jujutsu Kaisen and compare the art in the first 10 chapters to the art in the last 10 chapters

[Anonymous No.7510892]

>>7509849
He's still great at composition and paneling but his drawings themselves are ugly and lack appeal compared to his older work

[Anonymous No.7510992]

>>7510005
So does "got it" or "understood" and they both retain the affirmation that they now understand while "I didn't know" does not (it implies they now understand but "わかったよ” isn't implying understanding, it's outright stating it). There are closer phrases in common use that fit the tone mood and context better, and don't mean the opposite of what the original does when taken literally.