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In TC theoretical framework, I just discovered the following relationship: the 'cultivated' thickness of a 'biform' determines its tendency towards radial or linear properties. This is interesting because it supports the hypothesis of the 'indifferent biform' [the 'brotherhood' is predominant within the 'anticipatory margins'].

A biform with minimal 'degrees of freedom' [a circle with hard edges] does not propagate beyond the explicit boundaries of its border. In contrast, a biform with more complex degrees of freedom [a diffuse line] does propagate beyond its limits, increasing the system's entropy.

>> No.7464185

The fuck is that bullshit? Just draw

>> No.7464187

It's called line weight you absolute faggot

>> No.7464211
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>>7464187
Sorry, I’m not interested in talking to oversocialized representatives of PC [pragmatic creativity]. TC [theoretical creativity] aims to lay the foundations of art. So, if you don’t get our transcendental intentions, that’s on you. How about you go draw an anus with its 100,000 naturalistic hairs? You know, the more empirical lice you represent, the bigger the material-social payoff.

Picrel: "" 'balance' of the expressive system "".

>> No.7464219

>>7464211
Ah, yes, the timeless lament of the self-anointed philosopher-artist, wailing against the oppressive tyranny of, what, exactly? The supposed "oversocialization" of people who dare to discuss creative principles in comprehensible terms? Your lofty “transcendental intentions” reek of the same old reactionary posturing dressed up in esoteric jargon—like a freshman who just discovered Kant and thinks sneering is a substitute for insight.

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>>7464219
I don’t think my goal is that abstract: I’m just looking for efficiency in terms of time, effort, and aesthetics in artistic creation. And let’s be honest, all current artistic knowledge lacks rigid foundations, the canon is just things stuck on the wall after being thrown randomly and in large quantities. Don’t you think that’s highly inappropriate? In response to this, TC was born, which is the desire to fully axiomatize each of the processes involved in artistic production. In theory, with well-developed TC algorithms, what used to take 100 hours could now be done in 1. Although I admit that this might seem ridiculous at the moment.

TC doesn’t believe that the aesthetic phenomenon is something esoteric and incomprehensible; no, we rather believe that if one dedicates time to studying it, it can be systematized and tamed.

By the way, I don’t like unnecessary conflict. If you’re not interested in this iconoclastic approach, I can understand that. But there’s no need to be sarcastic or ill-intentioned. After all, my autistic intentions are altruistic.

>> No.7464277

In a few more months, I think we'll have hit peak schizo with this one.

>> No.7464600

>>7464181
>TC was born, which is the desire to fully axiomatize each of the processes involved in artistic production.
I am interested and willing to develop this. Tell me more.

>> No.7464622

>>7464273
If I take you at face value I'm forced to conclude that you're the kind of person who can only attain value from being subjected to violence. You should go debate in real life where people will be able to hit you in the face.

>> No.7464660

>>7464181
OP:
https://youtu.be/PJIvBeVKoQA?si=blWgaTLKpFCySwKG

>> No.7465133

>>7464622
The absolute potentiality of pure thought, without the limiting filter of materialism, is paradoxically nothing despite being everything. Like the unborn child God’s ambassador in the womb; like white light or sound without silence. The autistic person starves while playing with their sincere feces, but it’s also true that the overly socialized neurotypical fails to achieve transcendence by forgetting their primordial potential.

Oscillation is the key. I recognize that I’m too autistic in these threads. I need to improve by appealing to PC, but it’s hard when obscene modernity has betrayed me.

In visceral desperation, in opposition to ____, TC was born. Which is only a stepping stone towards a higher purpose.

>> No.7465175

>>7464181
>'cultivated'
>'indifferent biform' [the 'brotherhood'
>'anticipatory margins'].
>increasing the system's entropy.
I get what you're saying OP but you've really got to learn to state things more plainly.

>> No.7465222 [DELETED] 

You talk way too much for being someone that only ever draws anime girls at the end of the day. Post more drawings and let your art speak for yourself, don't tell me what you think show it to me. Also you gay

>> No.7465226

You talk way too much for being someone that only ever draws anime girls. At the end of the day,post more drawings and let your art speak for itself, don't tell me what you think show it to me. If you want to get retarded with shape language go into bauhaus, Dieter Rams, etc. You're not going into new grounds yet, people have already thought about this, keep trying tho, also you gay

>> No.7465354

And his name? Leotardo Da Tismo. Remember this guy, they'll be in your textbooks in about 50 years. Though I can't help but feel you only rediscovered something that's already known, which is good because that means you're on the path to making new discoveries via logic.

>> No.7465430

TCbabbler breadtrail
>>/ic/thread/7413956

>>/ic/thread/6940282

>>/ic/thread/7130066

>>/ic/thread/7369865

>> No.7465443

>>7465430
thanks anon, keep it up, see you next thread

>> No.7465445

>>7464181
So how do I get started with this method

>> No.7465448

>>7465445
You cultivate some anticipatory biforms, obviously.

>> No.7466696
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INFODUMP/
Why is wild stylistic creativity only permitted in contexts of soft rigor (music, painting)? This needs to change. TC says that reality is holistic, and that artificial boundaries between media only limit discovery. We believe in 'conceptual macro primitives' whose permutations span all disciplines. We need to find the relationships.
Everything brilliant is a non-arbitrary novelty, TC democratizes and anticipates these esoteric dynamics that currently only randomness can touch. Talent fluctuates within the margins of the social canon, TC expands by studying patterns through subjectivity and objectivity.
/INFODUMP

>>7464600
>>7465445
Try to create a simple personal logical system that allows anticipating values in a 2D binary matrix ?x?. For example:

10x10x2 (start: 0): (5,5), (1,1)

This is a form of TC.

There’s no need to heavily appeal to cultural conventions like that example, just remember that subjectivity must be channeled into the objective, and the only factors that determine the intrinsic beauty of the proposed system are its 'simplicity', 'rigor', and 'expressiveness'.

TODO: No matter how paradoxical it may seem, it is necessary to formalize the 'informality' of PC. According to recent advances, PC is not an 'enemy', but rather a complementary approach.

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PS: By the way, I acknowledge that this thread is 'ugly' because it is not 'symmetrical': the subjective is not balanced with explicit empiricism. Don't point it out. That's why it's just a mini thread. Later, I will correct this by sharing direct applications of the ideas mentioned here.

>> No.7466752 [DELETED] 

What OP wants to do is abominable, and in that sense I have respect for it.

I hope you succeed before I have the chance to get my hands on you.

>> No.7467318

>>7464181
What are your axioms? If you are going to be all rigorous, then at least state your axioms if not develop a formal language for your model. If you are going to just create word salad then you're just going to be a pretentious larper. Don't get me wrong, I myself am trying to develop an art curriculum inspired from math curriculum, but you are just writing empty words.

>> No.7467350

>>7467318
That's what irks me about this lol. I can see that theres actually some substance here. I think the art is pretty neat, reminds me a lot of geometric design in graphic design, which is why I think it's cool this person might be arriving at these conclusions by themselves, but theories and discoveries are moot if you can't distill them in a manner your intended audience (this board) can understand. They could very well be a legitimate autist and don't have any desire to be understood and just want a place to dump their thoughts with no real rhyme or reason.

>> No.7467688

>>7465133
Jesus christ, just go do math if you're so anti-substance. I feel you'd enjoy category theory.

>> No.7467766

>>7464181
Looked through an older thread of yours, something concerns me:
>"congenital/psychological laws that determine 'aesthetic pleasure' when a stimulus is experienced"
>"formalization of aesthetics/mind"

It's a respectable goal, but why do you assume these to be feasibly interpretable through reasoning? I could see how aesthetic pleasure could be potentially quantified (in a very non-trivial way) once we have better tools for neuropsychology research, but that doesn't imply that those numerical rules governing aesthetic pleasure can be reduced to linguistic reasoning...

If you have some arguments (not necessarily rigorous) to support the idea that the process of art perception can be interpreted in terms of logic without overgeneralizing to the point of near-irrelevance, I would like to hear those.

This is not an attack on your ideas, I'm genuinely curious to see where your confidence in your approach stems from - and I'm sure there are interesting reasons involved.

>> No.7467780

If I understand correctly, you’re suggesting that the "cultivated thickness" of a biform influences its structural behavior, thicker, more defined forms (like a hard-edged circle) tend toward stability and containment, while thinner, more flexible forms (like a diffuse line) enable propagation and increase systemic entropy.

This seems to reinforce the idea of the "indifferent biform", a structure that doesn’t inherently favor one mode over another but is instead shaped by the anticipatory margins (the surrounding conditions that determine how the biform interacts with its environment). The idea that 'brotherhood' is predominant in these margins suggests that relational dynamics, rather than intrinsic properties, drive the system’s evolution.

Have you considered how this relates to feedback loops within the TC framework? Could the degrees of freedom in a biform correlate with its susceptibility to external perturbations?