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If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

Previous thread >>7193079

>> No.7194859

redpill me on Artstation

>> No.7194860

>>7194859
You're not good enough to post there

>> No.7194864

Pawell Pawell Pawell Pawell Pawell

>> No.7194866

>>7193147
Damn this is actually pretty hard

>> No.7194868
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>>7194864
>just draw bro

>> No.7194869

>>7194864
oh no he is behind you know and is about to steal your gains

>> No.7194870

>>7194864
So...what if you're not even as good as Pawell?

>> No.7194871

>>7194859
It's called SLOPSTATION now:
>https://www.artstation.com/referencehub

>> No.7194874

is anime allowed itt or should I go to /asg/

>> No.7194876

>>7194874
>is anime allowed
Bruh this is /ic/. Anime is literally the only thing allowed. No one on this board gives a shit about fine art.

>> No.7194878

>>7194871
ARGH! MY EYES!

>> No.7194879

>>7194869
Will he get my gains and add them to his leveling or will my gains be thrown into a void?

>> No.7194880

>>7194859
It's good as a portfolio builder if you want to work in the industry. Otherwise pointless to post your work there for actual followers.

>> No.7194881

>>7194879
What gainz tho...?

>> No.7194882
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7194882

Maybe I should draw more boxes..

>> No.7194884

>>7194868
Does he ever fix his mistakes?..

>> No.7194886

>>7194876
ogey

>> No.7194887

>>7194868
no one who says "just draw" means it in the most literal sense

>> No.7194888

>>7194884
No but he nooootices!
>the 25 yo nooticer

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>>7194887
I do

>> No.7194894
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7194894

20 posts in and nobody has posted their own work. Quit fuckin yapping about retarded shit and draw, you losers.

>> No.7194899
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>>7194894
Doing more excercises from the Human Anatomy for Artists book

>> No.7194900
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>>7194899
Based

>> No.7194904
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>>7194900
Sorry, it's the Chinese one

>> No.7194908

>>7194904
makes sense, i was thinking I dont remember any cube exercises in my version lol

>> No.7194912

>>7194904
link to chinese chad book?

>> No.7194913

>>7194912
>>7162589

>> No.7194915

>>7194855
originals?

>> No.7194920

>>7194915
>>7194252
>>7194322

>> No.7194923
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7194923

new jadokar kino dropped
https://youtu.be/K81kzuMcrU8

>> No.7194928
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>> No.7194931

>>7194928
I wish I could get my lines straight as this

>> No.7194933

>>7194931
realization =/= potential

>> No.7194934

>>7194871
It's all AI!?

>> No.7194936
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>>7194931
dial stabilization to 40

you are welcome

>> No.7194937

>>7194936
>dial cheating to [CHEATING]
Might as well just prompt

>> No.7194938

>>7194934
That whole section, yes. In less than a year they produced half a million AI "reference images". You can buy them by a couple of bucks each pack of 250 images. Neat, huh?

>> No.7194939

>>7194937
No rules just tools ;)

>> No.7194940

>>7194938
Holy fuck that's scummy as shit. And to think I wanted an account there someday!

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>>7194939
no rulers no tools

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>>7194899
Another one

>> No.7194949
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7194949

>tfw drawing for my friends on /beg/ and I get a (you)

>> No.7194957
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7194957

I made the McDonalds girl, i really like her

>> No.7194997

>>7194957
Rape

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>> No.7195012
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Got brutally raped by posemaniac 30 sec gesture poses. Do you anons think they look alright

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>>7195012
Did some Bengus copies too

>> No.7195036

>>7195031
Xray tech anon, if you're still here I wanna ask a question.
I'm thinking of studying for this job and then practicing art on the side while working full-time to gitgud. How much free time would you say the job gives you to draw? Is it mentally or physically laborious? Thanks.

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7195038

I'm literally Bridgman

>> No.7195050
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7195050

pen practice

>> No.7195054

>>7195050
FUCKING HOT SHIT!

>> No.7195057

>>7195050
Nice

>> No.7195059

How do I learn to draw when I'm impatient and easily distracted?

>> No.7195062

>>7195059
You don't, you die

>> No.7195067
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7195067

>>7195050
i believe practicing lineart will help your drawings
I like that your adding darkblack gives it dimension
quickly linearted primarily the face
keep it up anon I enjoy your drawings

>> No.7195068

i'm getting pretty good at copying anime stills but I still can't draw faces

>> No.7195073

>>7195068
Trace and copy them from different angles.
Try looking at the animation design sheets.

>> No.7195074

>>7195067
thanks for the advice bro, your lines are very clean
I'm trying to improve the quality of my linework using the gpen, I'm trying to focus on a style that resembles a manga or doujin page

>> No.7195075

>>7195073
i'm looking on sheets yes. still, they are pretty good but I think i'm not "understanding" it you feel it senpai

>> No.7195082

>>7195059
Overload your senses, have two or three screens running shit you usually watch. And do your drawings on the side. Fool your brain into thinking that it is not missing anything. That's your problem, thinking that you're missing "something" and you're not "up to date". Most probably stupid bullshit.
Some say, "turn-off everything", "give yourself a dedicated time to draw"... Man fuck that, people today can't have the luxury to do that. Just can't. You can't turn off your phone. You have to be reachable nowadays. The only reasonable option is to go all out on the opposite direction, get the shit you think you "can't miss" on, have it on running in front of you. And draw. If you can get into listening to music, that's ideal, but it's a hard one, and acquired taste. I love music and I can't stop watching YouTube updates from my fave channels. Kill twitter, that's non-negotiable. Video Games, that the worst of all problems, fortunately I'm out of that shit. I ruined games for me thinking that they are just a bunch of files, jpg's, mp3, and text put together in sequence just to make me lose my time. That right there is psychology in action to help me with game addiction. You may have to come up with something like that as well.
If you can make drawing you number one addiction, above all other things, then you may have a chance to make it work.

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7195087

>>7194946
those be some tiny thighs, my friend.
>>7194957
hot. very fun, very cute.
>>7195009
mmmmm this the shit i’m here for. perspective is pretty sick, but what’s going on with them looking so small and scrawny? regardless, excited to see where it’s going.
>>7195050
anime tiddies/10

here’s some absolute bullshit i did this weekend at a music festival. had other people doodling in the center.

>> No.7195088

>>7195087
>those be some tiny thighs, my friend.
Yeah I see that now

>> No.7195090

>>7195088
i do like the general flow your drawing has, though. keep it up.

>> No.7195106

>doodling in a drawpile with friends
>"since when could anon draw?"
did I win?

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>>7195106
>friends

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>>7195074
>>7195050
Here's some things I noticed while I was linearting for a second time:
the hair bow was getting lost in the details, some of the black shadow lost its shape so I changed it a bit, i would focus on tapering your lines a bit more, try looking into altering the pen pressure on your brush if you haven't already and feel free to experiment for what works with you pressure sensitivity wise.
keep on ganbare anon

>> No.7195147

>>7195106
>did I win?
Chris Chan has gotten more earnest compliments for his art than most quality artists will ever get. I'm other words, compliments don't matter if your work sucks; you win when your work doesn't suck

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>>7195050
I'm going to try to do something different now, it's something that has been in my head for a while, to do something similar to a one or two page manga but it's not flowing the way I imagined, does anyone have any recommendations for storyboards or comic stuff in general

>>7195134
great stuff thanks, I like the details you added to the bangs, I noticed that the less empty space you leave, the more attractive the lineart looks to the viewer.

>> No.7195153

>>7195148
Make sure you have the script envisioned and to a point where its servicable to make into a manga.
focus also on readability when positioning where text bubbles will be.
look up kisho ten ketsu it is a format of story that most Japanese use for story in general.

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>>7195153
I had never heard about kisho ten ketsu
thanks for the info

>> No.7195168

>>7195082
That's actually good advice, thanks. That's what I used to do when I had to focus on writing.

>> No.7195174 [DELETED] 

>>7195050
>>7195148
anon please just a single ntr drawing...

>> No.7195178

What type of costumes will be the most useful to learn to draw from imagination? Suits? Hoodies? I wanna draw characters with clothes from imagination but most of the time it's either the costume is really boring or retarded.

>> No.7195194

>>7195178
Hoodies are great. Very customizable and "beg-friendly". Suits are a problem, if the design doesn't look cool people will bitch about it to no end.

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>>7195178
Study the 7 kinds of folds
Zig zag, pipe, drop, half-lock, diaper, spiral, and inert. Learn them and drawing any type of clothing is just a matter of knowing the shape of the body underneath and how baggy it is.

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7195229

How would you guys analyze an art style like this to better understand it? Wanna draw in a style similar to this but.. /beg/ so y'know.

>> No.7195235

>>7195229
well I guess you'd start by defining what you like about it, do you like the anatomy, the poses, the colors etc. and then try to study and do master copies with emphasis on what you want to learn from it

>> No.7195241
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7195241

I meant to change mostly the arm, hands, and chest but ended up changing the hair a lot.

>> No.7195247

Charles Bargue or keys to drawing im stuck between them

>> No.7195252

>>7195247
You will have to tackle both anyways. Throw a coin.
Bargue, may be easier and straight to the point. You just have to copy those god damn drawings. It's a master study exercise. If you do them right you could get them framed to motivate yourself.

>> No.7195258

>>7195247
Literally everything from keys to drawing is necessary for bargue plates

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>>7195148
it's joever, I abandoned the whole plot and went full coom, I'll probably ink and tone tomorrow

>> No.7195276

>>7194855
Why is my drawing the op goddammit

>> No.7195290

>>7195276
Is that fat mettaton

>> No.7195291

>>7195290
Yea dude, they drew over >>7195241

>> No.7195293

>>7195291
Kind of based icl

>> No.7195315

>>7194796
Why is the cross section of the thigh a circle? Isn't the leg at 45 degrees relative to the camera?

>> No.7195320

>>7195315
Because it explain the core idea clearer than soft triangles.

>> No.7195322

>>7195320
he asking not why it not anatomical, but why ellipse is so much circle, if leg is not perpendicular
>>7194796
it is not 45 but yea. , it is not accurate, but it is, closer to the truth than op scribbles

>> No.7195325 [DELETED] 

>>7195275
>>7195148
>>7195050
anon you're so close.. just a single NTR drawing

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>>7195322
what about this

>> No.7195340

Shitter here, why does it feel like my art progress increases by a large amount after coming back from a 1-2 month hiatus, I surprise myself almost every time when I come back from a long period of not drawing and the first drawing is a fucking banger.

>> No.7195345

>>7195334
Too narrow.

>> No.7195347

>>7195345
any less narrow is just a circle

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wip
hard to come up with things to put in the background

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7195358

First page of my comic, wdyt?

>> No.7195359

>>7195358
Very pretty background you put monochrome filter over. The rest is... well...

>> No.7195362

>>7195359
just imagine it doesn't look like shit, is the composition good?

>> No.7195364

>>7195362
>just imagine the drawing is good
Anon...

>> No.7195365

>>7195334
so it 45 really. you make it turning so not clear cone/cylinder but I feel it still a bit off(maybe too narrow and uneven ) but it kind of guess work so I would say it about right :)

>> No.7195367

>>7195364
its a WIP

>> No.7195372

>>7195354
I dont know what it is but this is cool :) perspective seems off but not a big deal

>> No.7195383

>>7195275
Looks great so far and the dialogue seems really hot. Wouldn't it be "arduous"? If that's the word that you meant.

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>30/96
Yesterday I was extremely tired. Forced myself to draw a bit trying to figure out arms and legs but things ended up badly. Only the second one satisfied me at all.

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>>7195426
>31/96
Suffering.

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>>7195429
>32/96
Last one. I tried doodling but I fucked up the head and the eyes.

>> No.7195449

>>7195430
For your next sketches try drawing slower and using long continuous lines. 2 or 3 max per contour. Right now you're stuck in the bad habit of making sketchy seeking lines to cover for the fact that you can't actually make the right one. If you push yourself beyond that stage early your confidence and linework will improve way faster (But it's a high slope so wont look perfect at first but will help you learn faster and draw faster/more accurately.)

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7195477

Would you consider high-beg or low-int? 2 year progress.

>> No.7195478

>>7195449
I'm being too stubborn for refusing to buy a pencil, but you're right. They're all very dirty. I'm mostly making more lines to point me out where I did wrong than anything else and going lower when trying on digital. But actually fuck it. I'll try reducing those on paper too.

>> No.7195481

I don’t draw and I never will because you people are a-holes.

>> No.7195482

>>7195477
low int, you ain't no horikoshi but you're doin fine. It would be more interesting to judge based off original works rather than fanart/coom cause without any reference that's the real measure of your base skill without any outside help in terms of design/choices

>> No.7195483

>>7195478
No need to buy a pencil, just use pens, it forces you to not erase so it works better. In real though the instrument doesn't matter, it's more your own critical thinking and choices which will lead to improvement.

>> No.7195484

>>7195482
A whole paragraph just to write cope

>> No.7195485

>>7195477
>2 years
Might as well kill myself already.

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>>7194203
Even with the end result put right in front of me I cant even do it right.

I will try to be more serious from now on but seeing everyone surpass me while I keep being the mediocre autist is starting to do me in.
Tiemalpse

>> No.7195488

>>7195487
And I KNOW I am wrong but I cant fucking fix it. How come I am the only subhuman who can see his fucking mistakes and know it is SHIT but still cant draw it right?
it is like knowing the stove will burn you and still fucking putting your hand on it.

>> No.7195490

>>7195488
Awareness is the first step towards improvement.

>> No.7195493

>>7195358
I’d change the text font (seems a bit plain to me, I don’t know quite what would look best thought) and if you plan to keep the “skeleton” thing you have going with the wolf, I’d revise it to look cleaner and/or more cohesive.

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7195498

Concept

>> No.7195503

Whats up with all these unfinished half asseds scribbles in /beg/ lately

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>>7195477
LMFAO YOU ARE DELUSIONAL AS FUCK you are low beg at best.
this is mid beg >>7195275, high beg >>7166553 >>7168403 , int >>7187965, >>7189995 >>7160559

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>>7195354
done

>> No.7195517

>>7195358
Page 1 of any comic is by far and large the most important page.
As things stand I would never see page 2. Font change is 100% required, no matter who you ask

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7195518

>>7195362
>just imagine it doesn't look like shit

>> No.7195519

>>7195512
Nah, low beg would be someone who just stopped symbol drawing and started learning fundies, escaping prebeg status. That anon is mid beg.

>> No.7195522

>>7195512
Also if you consider this >>7168403 high beg but this >>7195275 mid beg you are tripping balls.

>> No.7195526

>>7195519
How to escape symbol drawing permabegness?

>> No.7195532

>>7195522
he's probably that guy who has a hate boner against that anon and is trying to neg him,
hes obsessed with him it's pretty pathetic

>> No.7195543

>>7160559
not overdesigned just a fucking ugly design

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7195552

Jesus christ I'm bad

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7195567

Is this achievable natty with boxes, loomis and some anatomy books?

>> No.7195568

>>7195552
Keep up that thinking and you're gmi in no time.

>> No.7195569

>>7195487
did you actually learn to copy like the dude on twitter grilled you or will you just wallow in self-pity till the end of time?
The reason you cant see shit is because you never learned it

>> No.7195577

>>7195569
Not him but is something like bargue plates nonnegotiable for begs? When can one stop tracing, gridding and copying and start drawing from imagination?

>> No.7195579

>>7195577
if you cant COPY IT then how do you expect to do it from imagination
Also copying is piss easy its not like you're demanding something crazy from people to learn how to copy lines

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7195586

Should I be drawing the line of action with neutral poses like pic rel?

>> No.7195590

>>7195586
line of action is stupid and the proof is in the pudding that you dont have a life of action while standing

>> No.7195603

>>7195426
>>7195429
>>7195430
Keep at it anon, don't force yourself into an skill that you're just getting used too. Keep filling those sketchbooks. Try to keep your lines soft or you're going to hurt your wrist, hand and fingers. Keep it loose. Use stacks of recycle cheap paper, you will need to throw away a lot of exercise work. When you reach mid to high Beg you can use sketchbooks to archive the stuff you think is good. Just have fun

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7195604

>>7195275
Finally, someone who's actually going to make it, and I say that unironically.

>> No.7195605

>>7195586
>>7195590
>post stiff ass anime cringe
>where is muh line of action?
Lmao. It's a straight line stoopids.

>> No.7195608

>>7195605
>stiff ass anime cringe
pyw

>> No.7195615

>>7195275
Her head in the bottom left panel is about to pop.

>> No.7195618

>>7195498
Saigon vibes

>> No.7195620

>>7195503
They are starting to understand what grinding exercises are for. Begs are learning to avoid the rendering trap. Good for them.

>> No.7195623
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7195623

More copies because I like them and still suck
>>7195275
I am in fact cooming
>>7195487
Keep it up, it's like the other anon said, the first step is noticing something is wrong

>> No.7195627

Why do some artbooks like Loomis and Xiao Weichun pretty much just skip gesture while others like vilppu or Hampton treat it like the most important thing in the world? Which is it

>> No.7195628
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7195628

Would truebegs and prebegs be interested in making a group to go through dynamic sketching 1 and 2 together? Where we go through each weeks one by one and share the homework, ressources and crit each others to improve

>> No.7195629

>>7195627
loomis was a xerox painting over photos, vilppu teaches drawing from imagination and he was a director for multiple animated movies

>> No.7195631

>>7195627
>Manga authors don't care about color but Richard Schmid wrote a whole book about it. Which is it???

>> No.7195632

>>7195628
Yeah sure why not. As long as it is public and not in some disckwrod

>> No.7195633
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7195633

>>7195628
>begs critiquin other begs

>> No.7195634

>>7195633
God forbid we try and help each other. Tier 10 retard take

>> No.7195636

>>7195628
only if it is a thread here, i'm not joining any discord server

>> No.7195638

>>7195636
>>7195632
Fuck discord, Id make it a separate thread

>> No.7195639

>>7195634
hes got a point though, isnt it a bad idea to isolate people who actually know how to draw?

>> No.7195641

>>7195639
No ones stopping them to come in, I just cant imagine int and up caring about drawing ellipses and organic forms inna vacuum

>> No.7195642

>>7195604
What's so good about it that y'all are loosing your minds over it? Looks alright but that's it.

>> No.7195645

>>7195642
Tits

>> No.7195646
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7195646

>>7195517
Updated font

>> No.7195647

>>7195642
For the average beg a moderately appealing anime girl with big tits represents the height of artistic skill

>> No.7195655
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7195655

Tried to color this gatomon doodle. Anons I have two questions first what color is used to shade white and help with this >>7195012 are you supposed to do a stickman when capturing gesture or just flowy lines, never did timed gestures before since they looked too difficult

>> No.7195670

>>7195642
I cant even draw a box, my goal is coom and I would sacrifice a dozen kids and my credit score to my local synagogue if I could draw as good as the "looks alright but that's it" guy.

>> No.7195671 [DELETED] 
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7195671

I drew this today between my classes. I tried to emulate a style i saw some guy on youtube drawing @paintlane and i noticed how confident and free he was about his strokes. He just started drawing with no sketches or guidelines. I tried to draw like him without thinking if what i was doings was right or wrong, i just did what i find it was cool, and in the end this experimentation brought me to this, a result that i liked and that made me look confortable to the final image, mainly due my process itself.

I'm more motivated to experiment new things such as coloring with color pencils (i've never colored until now) and learn more about the fundamentals, such as perspective (i'm procrastinating to read more of Perspective Made Easy).

Sorry for my blog but i hope this helps some artist who were in a situation like me. If it wasn't for /ic/ and other resources I would be stuck in the /beg/ phase for a longer time. I hope this helps others who are in the same situation as mine, drawing heads forever. Feel free to experiment and get out of your confort zone sometimes.

>> No.7195673
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7195673

I drew this today between my classes. I tried to emulate a style i saw some guy on youtube drawing @paintlane and i noticed how confident and free he was about his strokes. He just started drawing with no sketches or guidelines. I tried to draw like him without thinking if what i was doings was right or wrong, i just did what i find it was cool, and in the end this experimentation brought me to this, a result that i liked and that made me look confortable to the final image, mainly due my process itself.

I'm more motivated to experiment new things such as coloring with color pencils (i've never colored until now) and learn more about the fundamentals, such as perspective (i'm procrastinating to read more of Perspective Made Easy).

[SPOILER]Sorry for my blog but i hope this helps some artist who were in a situation like me. If it wasn't for /ic/ and other resources I would be stuck in the /beg/ phase for a longer time. I hope this helps others who are in the same situation as mine, drawing heads forever[/SPOILER] .Feel free to experiment and get out of your confort zone sometimes.

>> No.7195675
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7195675

it's SO fucking over, my brothers

>> No.7195679

>>7195675
It isn't. I'm /beg/ but i think you have a nice grasp of volume, values and construction, and the pose is looking nice either. My only suggestion is to vary a little more your line thickness through the piece, like in the hair for example. You are good, it isn't over

>> No.7195692
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7195692

Forcing myself hard to use construction. My brain refuses. But I feel i will finally beat that idiot. Any heads you like?

>> No.7195701

>>7195675
If this is over then I never begun

>> No.7195704

>>7195646
Some people just don't have what it takes, sorry

>> No.7195707
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7195707

>>7195675
Why do you say that? Drop the opacity on that one, open a new layer above, choose a simple brush pen with the stabilizer on (Dynamic Brush tool in Krita, or "smoothing" tool in PS, etc). And trace it, practice your lines, try to do long lines without breaking them, but break the line if you need so, just don't do a tangle of lines and knots, a gap in the line is better than that. Just keep it as simple and clean as you can. Don't delve in details, focus in the "bigger picture". Once you laid down the basic shape lines, you can go dropping details here and there, like a few wrinkles, etc. It is an exercise, it will help you to better your aim at stylizing shapes, and design ideas.
You did much of the heavy work already. Tune in your tools and you're set to make big gains from there.

>> No.7195709

>>7194928
Nice. This images reminds me what I learned recently that i've been doing wrong with my shoulders. I've been drawing the top part as a straight line from shoulder to shoulder, but thats the clavical which changes its own shape since it moves separetly from the rib cage. The top part of the box should be to top of the rib cage, not the shoulders.

>> No.7195711

>>7195673
This is some prefetus beg shit, props for posting it anyway.

>> No.7195712

>>7195334
I would have drawn the buttocks as its own shape then starget the coil from the start of the thigh. Those coils work best with limbs and fingers.

>> No.7195737

How the hell do you get clean lines on a digital tablet?

>> No.7195745

>>7195737
do your ugly scratching for the sketching then crank the stability/smoothing all the way up for linework. Anyone who says they don't do that is a liar.

>> No.7195748

>>7195707
thanks very much, i should really reconsider the way i work with lines, they look shit

i really like the way you drew the skirt and hoodie, because they broke my mind, and leg looks more shaped. any recources you can recommend in general?

>> No.7195751
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7195751

>>7195646
main character, looking pretty poopy but just a sketch.

>> No.7195754
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7195754

>>7195737
All painting softwares have brush stabilizing tools.

>> No.7195758
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7195758

Done with the lineart on this drawing

>> No.7195770
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7195770

Even more heads. I think i can go to bed.

>> No.7195782
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7195782

does this look correct?

>> No.7195785

>>7195782
Are begs ok?

>> No.7195787
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7195787

having fun with a pencil

>> No.7195797

>>7195785
clearly they aren't

>> No.7195802

>>7195782
What are you trying to achieve with this? Shouldn't you practice putting boxes inside her head, chest and tits to see perspective, tracing over difficult curves to practice strokes. blocking large shapes to see proportions and composition, drawing a copy to see how well you can observe and understand subject and paint to practice rendering?

>> No.7195807

>>7195802
no

>> No.7195809

>>7195787
Are you from nubotred?

>> No.7195812

>>7195642
>losing our minds
There's like three posters in total who gave compliments over the drawing. Imagine being so jaded you don't want to see a fellow /beg/ make it.

>> No.7195813
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7195813

other redline anons are asleep so i can have fun now

>> No.7195816
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7195816

I probably should not post here.

>> No.7195819

>>7195275
Oh fuck how did I miss this one? Fucking HOT SHIT! SAVED

>> No.7195820
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7195820

>>7195751

>> No.7195821

>>7195809
Oh, well, why you're asking?

>> No.7195822

>>7195816
If picrel is your work, you definitely should...

>> No.7195823
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7195823

DUDE, FIBONACCI, LMAO

>> No.7195825

>>7195823
Based golden ratio appreciator

>> No.7195827

>>7195816
She has a strange growth on her hand

>> No.7195829

>>7195709
>The top part of the box should be to top of the rib cage, not the shoulders.
Really good point, thanks for pointing that out.

>> No.7195830

>>7195827
Look at your hand anon, those things protruding out of it are called "fingers".

>> No.7195831

>>7195830
No. I've seen fingers before. Matter of fact I have a few of those myself and these are not fingers. They look more like spaghetti noodles or worms coming out of the hand

>> No.7195832

>>7195822
Yeah, exactly why I shouldn't. Bad vibes. Just dragging me down into some sort of mental hole to rot with rest of you. What purpose your gnarly comment is supposed to have?

>> No.7195833

>>7195825
The golden ratio is a fucking scam.
The golden ratio is basically just 1:1.5 and there are so many fucking things in nature that can be measured as almost 1 to 1 and a half ratio that of course its going to look like its special. You could say anything within that range of 1:1.5 has the golden ratio because its close enough.

>> No.7195839

>Some people aren't autistic enough to grind fundamentals and get mad when others do.
And what will fundies do? Why do I need to grind boxes and perspective boxes like a fucking Pawell schizo and never draw the shit I actually want to draw?
What even are the fucking fundies? Everyone says the same with retarded boxes and lines and Le Loomis and feel the form but nobody will firmly tell me what fundies are and what they will do for me.

If I grins boxes like a shizo with Robertson are those fundies? He doesnt touch the human figure in over a thousand pages of books. How will that help me?
I am starting to think all the fucking fundies talk is just some elaborate kind of hazing like the "Tren hard" or GOMAD dudes from /fit/ and it is something you get or you don't.

I am not trolling or Howeing. I am just desperate because I see everyone else do it easilyand improve and even get comms and requests while I keep being the retarded nigger autist doomed to fail.

>> No.7195841
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7195841

>>7195833
It's not a scam if it works. If you say otherwise you are just a contrarian or not human because we are hardwired liking it.

>> No.7195842

>>7195832
To take you out of you comfort zone. You know you are good enough to mog 99% of the faggots in this board, but you're afraid of "what the broken squizos dwelling in this shithole could say or do".
If you can't take what these low-tier crabbs can say to you here, then you have no chance of surviving in any of the other social platforms out there.

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7195846

>> No.7195847

>>7195842
>If you can't take what these low-tier crabbs can say to you here, then you have no chance of surviving in any of the other social platforms out there.
Any art reddit will suck your dick no matter what you show them. These autistic zoomers should go there for validation, not here.

>> No.7195848
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7195848

Tried drawing something on that Tekagi E website, its way harder than i thought.

>> No.7195849

>>7195832
what purpose was your comment was supposed to have?
How do you think someone would respond after posting the smuggiest shit eating post in this thread? Obviously someone is gonna take you down a peg, fucking crybully tard

>> No.7195852
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7195852

>>7195813
thankyou anon I tried to apply it best as I could

>> No.7195854
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7195854

>>7195842
If you mean what i would do about the moron that was posting images of shit in toilet bowl, i believe other social media offer simple block feature.
>>7195849
What was so smug about it?

>> No.7195855

>>7195820
>>7195751
first time drawing a MC, think he looks cool enuff

>> No.7195857

>>7195852
pretty good but the arm is still alarmingly short

>> No.7195858
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7195858

studying ai so that i can draw like ai

>> No.7195865

>>7195858
>so that i can draw like ai
why would you want to do that?

>> No.7195866

>>7195858
Whatever it takes buddy.-
>>7195854
>If you mean what i would do about the moron that was posting images of shit in toilet bowl, i believe other social media offer simple block feature.
You can hide posts here too, click on the blue arrow next to the post number and see the options.

>> No.7195867

>>7195858
Modern tragedy

>> No.7195869

>>7195858
too based

>> No.7195873

>>7195745
Digital art sounds like suffering

>> No.7195886
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7195886

>>7195754
thats not the krita stabilizer
this is the stabilizer

>> No.7195887
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7195887

>>7195886
based krita enjoyer

also
disregard loomis
embrace monke construction

>> No.7195890

>>7195841
Maybe it's not a "scam", but I never said it didn't work. If it works, it's because it's simpler than people make it out to be, not because it's some mathematically perfect divine relationship.

>> No.7195891

>>7195858
There are thousands of incredible human artists from time immemorial, and you choose to pursue the most modernistic bottom of the barrel shit.
The human aspect of art is one of the most incredible parts of being an artist and studying artists. If you don't care about that, why even draw at all?

>> No.7195892
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7195892

>>7195782
fucking lol

>> No.7195905

>>7195704
What’s wrong with it?

>> No.7195912

>>7195711
thank you, nigger.

>> No.7195939
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7195939

>>7195646
Learn how to space the black tree columns apart in a way that doesn't look too uniform.

>>7195704
pyw or fall off on the way nigga

>>7195858
You really captured that souless eye look lol but nice shading/polish

>>7195887
Loomis is fine but monke is good too nice drawings btw

>>7195854
who's the artist for this red one?

>> No.7195959

>>7195939
What program are you using anon? Photoshop?

>> No.7195961

>>7195959
>he thinks software matters
NGMI, hoard more brushes

>> No.7195964
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7195964

>>7195754
dynamic brush is a brush with a stabilizer basically, i think it's for convenience so you can turn it on/off with a hotkey

>> No.7195967
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7195967

Big glove guy

>> No.7195973
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7195973

dude i love my pneumatic girls

>> No.7195989
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7195989

there's many problems with my coloring.. but I'm proud of the tail

>> No.7196002
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7196002

>>7195973
Very funky. Idk if it reads as pneumatic though, more like abstract or fractal
>>7195989
I think a background would really. Make this pop.

>> No.7196003
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7196003

Sketch?

>> No.7196005

>>7196003
So dark someone turn on a light. Cute. Pose is boring.

>> No.7196008

>>7196003
give me your fucking blog nigga

>> No.7196012
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7196012

Wanted to acknowledge/thank the posters who helped out in the last thread. I trimmed down part of Mirei's head and redrew her face and now while it's far from perfect I'm much more satisfied with my piece.

>> No.7196072

>>7195959
clipstudiopaint the free version and sai2 https://www.systemax.jp/en/sai/devdept.html

>> No.7196081
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7196081

>>7195820
trying clip studio paint

>> No.7196124

>>7195858
>AI

Is this how I get (You)s ?

>> No.7196129

>>7196124
if you mention it in a post yes

>> No.7196131
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7196131

i don't wanna hatch, paint or airbrush it

my hand is hurt and this shit was really funny to kitbash(?)

>> No.7196134

>>7195839
A-anyone? P-please?

>> No.7196135
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7196135

>>7196134
study them.

>> No.7196173

>>7195892
kek

>> No.7196175

>>7195939
you've been much more talkative and helpful recently, what changed you from your previous smug and silent ways ? keep it up

>> No.7196184
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7196184

>>7195383
thanks for pointing that out, I just fixed it
I did the linework and now I need to add the tones

>> No.7196188

>>7196184
Fuck are you not on exhentai yet?

>> No.7196189

>>7196188
I can dream about that
maybe one day...

>> No.7196190

How do I tell a friend his art is shit without hurting his feelings?

He's a good guy but I can't stop lying to myself

>> No.7196194

>>7196190
Tell him to post his work on /ic/, leave the rest to us

>> No.7196203

>>7196189
>dreaming about being on the worst shithole on earth
absolute state of coom artists
your inner being who wanted to draw superheros and shiet as a child would be embarrassed at your pathetic coomer existence today

>> No.7196212
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7196212

posted something earlier, but wasn’t looking for any particular feed back.

for this, i’m trying to think of more things i can add in the background and different kinda details i could add to make it look less stale.

suggestions/critique welcome.

>> No.7196214

>>7196203
What's your dream anon?

>> No.7196216

>>7196203
The future is now old man.

>> No.7196217

>>7196212
I like that it looks like a Depeche Mode album cover.

>> No.7196221

>>7196203
>worst shithole on earth
and yet you are on 4chan

>> No.7196222
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7196222

trying to draw my ffxiv character

>> No.7196226
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7196226

Not sold on the expression yet. Maybe have to redo the hand. Good night.

>> No.7196234
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7196234

Retarded question
I drew a ton of boxes in perspective and I just now realized non of them are rotated!
How the fuck do do the perspective for rotated boxes? They can't have the same vanishing points, can they?

>> No.7196237
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7196237

>>7196226
pretty great anon. The only "mistake" is that the neck seems too far backwards imo. I tried to do a different hand / arm pose, you can decide if you like it better.

>> No.7196239

>>7195839
>Anon asks a question
>Nobody answers.

>> No.7196240
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7196240

>>7195939
like this, or do you mean move them.

>> No.7196249
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7196249

I feel like I made poor choices of rendering colors.

>> No.7196251

>>7196249
You've made multiple poor choices before you put pen to papr

>> No.7196253

>no pawell post today
it's over...

>> No.7196255

>>7196251
Tell me what poor choices I have made?

>> No.7196257
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7196257

Most obvious flaw? (Besides shitty lines.)

>> No.7196258
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7196258

looking for critique to this lens/perspective exercise i made
ty

>> No.7196259

>>7196258
Nice!
I would say keep the same angle though and pov. In some you're also moving the camera up or below.

>> No.7196260

>>7196258
Are your lines really that straight or are you using stabilization?

>>7196255
I was just joking

>> No.7196261

>>7196260
>I was just joking
Ah right. My bad. Sarcasm and irony doesn't translate well in text, heheh.

>> No.7196266

>>7195004
blog?

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7196270

>>7196258
cool stuff

>> No.7196275

>>7196266
@e1ainma on x

>> No.7196279
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7196279

i drew an alium

>> No.7196281

>>7196226
>>7196237
Is she supposed to be looking at her hand? Right now she's staring past it.

>> No.7196284
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7196284

following chibi and anime tutorials. been drawing for like a week and i am shocked that i was able to draw like this, it's a new personal best but i don't know how to draw hairs or ears at all. fun stuff

>> No.7196293

>>7196260
>>7196261
But in all seriousness, can you tell me what may be wrong with the render?>>7196249

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>>7194946
Another one
I don't think this was an exercise but I still tried copying it

>> No.7196300
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>>7196279
cool alieb

>> No.7196308

>>7196255
being a furry was poor choice number 1

>>7194899
>>7194946
>>7196297
These are pretty cool anon, you should try applying this perspective to a sketch for a character or something, if you draw something similar without being an exact copy it'll stick in your head

>>7196284
Would recommend drawing from human faces too, helps you learn how chibis are stylized to look cute

>>7196226
She's got a thousand yard stare
>>7196237
not a great fix for the hand but less sketchy than the original

>>7195839
draw what you want and practice fundamentals using subjects you want to draw. If I wanna draw human faces, perspective for buildings or machines wont be a priority. (but could still be useful)

>>7195816
Please post I like your work, but don't read/reply to crabs lol

>>7195751
Part of it is just the design of the character, he seems like a soldier, not really meant to look attractive

>>7195758
neck is a bit short

>>7195787
picasso what are you doin? (having fun is good tho)

>>7195673
you must be 18 years or older to use this website. Please leave. Also nice drawing, you're off to a good start, keep exploring inspirations/nature. Guidelines are helpful to be on model but for nature scenes they aren't needed.

>>7195655
1: for shading white, depends on the light source, if you're outside under blue sky use blue, or depends on what colors you have available.

2: For poses/gestures it doesn't matter what you use, you just need to capture the feeling/weight of the pose/character, It comes with mileage. The idea is to be able to quickly put down a concept to paper, something solid that you can build on for a finished piece.

>>7196279
ayy lmao

>>7196257
flaw? you mean other than the fact you're drawing little boys? I'de say the pose is a bit weightless, forearms are too short.

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>>7195939
>>7196240
I think they meant like this?

>> No.7196311

>>7196175
Smug? Silent? wachu talkin bout? glad to help though

>> No.7196312

Fundamentals is just perspective then?

>> No.7196318

>>7196239
Welcome to the club

>> No.7196326

>>7196312
no

>> No.7196336

>>7195839
>>7196318
>what are the fundamentals
Depends on what you're doing but I'll go with form, perspective, anatomy, composition, lighting, and colour. If you're doing illustration then lineart is one as well and there are other fundamentals for other mediums as well.
>why do I need to grind boxes
You don't NEED to do anything, but you will have to grind something, learning any skill is just grinding. Boxes are a method for understanding form and perspective, this is because they're a simple even sided 3D shape that most things can be broken down to.

>> No.7196340

I didn't get to draw anything but shitty doodles today.
I want to kill every single fucking NEET and brat I know who gets to art on their parents' dime.

>> No.7196354

>>7196340
You wouldn't want to live as a NEET. Parents don't spend a dime on those damned creatures. That's the point of the NEET. He's a maggot, crawling on the floor hiding, screeching in a silent prayer: "I'm not a burden for this house, I don't need anything, I don't need clothes, I don't need a bathroom , I don't need food, I'll stay in this corner, you won't ever see me, so please don't throw me out there"... So their parents turn their faces away in disgust and disappointment, and go on with their life without even knowing they have a person around. A normal son would mean they to spend more money, on gifts to grandsons that will never exist, on outings, on family reunions, events, family travels... That will never happen. Don't ever envy a NEET, you don't want to be that. That ain't no life.

>> No.7196355

>>7196308
Why'd you skip me mass reply schizo senpai?

>> No.7196359

>>7196354
I meant shitters living on gibs, mostly.
And NEETing it out with a clear purpose beats being wagecattle who can only afford a couple hours of drawing during the weekdays while being tired as shit.

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>>7196293
I'm not sure, but something like this is how it is more likely to happen. I'm conflicted because, on one hand, you could be wild with colors. I do not want to forbid you, but it is more coherent if it is somewhat based on reality.
It is a cool series, but maybe watch something about light. Maybe .

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>> No.7196370

>>7196359
>living on gibs
Who the fuck lives on "gibs" really? I keep hearing that shit in this site only. IRL I only see old people getting food from the local church. The real "gib" is alimony, there's no other gib. Real people won't pay shit with some food money throw at them by government.
But yeah, a disciplined NEET who can make something out of being a no life cockroach can beat a wage life. Depends on people, some people are born to live life, get drunk, fuck bitches, getting to know people, travel, you need money to do that. NEETs are living insects. People in prison say that being in jail is worse than death. So that's that.

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i'm about to start drawing again
i actually went to art university, got incredibly disappointed by 90% of the professors and classes they taught (duchamp and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race), but i did stick around enough to get a job at a marketing company, where i did webdesign, eventually becoming chief of my department which led me to get a corporate job on another company that does not involve art at all
i want to get back to do what i love, so i'm in the process of hooking up my old huion tablet to delve into it again
how do i come back to it again? any books to brush up on the basics?
picrel is an old wip for a uni project i found on my phone

>> No.7196377

Quick question, I'm stuck on the very first step of practicing lines, as page-length ones are just killing me. I intend to draw on a tablet so I'm practicing on it, but the problem is that it's sticky as shit and any lines long enough to warrant sliding my wrist on the tab come out retarded, as my hand momentarily gets stuck on the surface and then moves in bursts as force is applied, which makes ugly squigs. I wiped the tab clean with wet tissues many times, and I wash my hands all the time. Do I really need a silly glove for this? I tried placing a piece of paper too but it too gets stuck for some reason. Am I applying too much force on my wrist? Am I even supposed to slide my wrist on the surface for longer lines, as opposed to hovering above the surface? Help.

>> No.7196378

>>7196377
use your shoulder for long lines
also, get a glove

>> No.7196380

>>7196355
my bad, which one were you?

>> No.7196382

>>7196370
>born to live life, get drunk, fuck bitches, getting to know people, travel, you need money to do that. NEETs are living insects.
other one insect too, just with a mushroom on a head making him run around and do pointless stuff for shroom benefit

>> No.7196398

>>7196378
Thanks for the advice. I just tried using my shoulder for a few minutes and it's really tough, but I guess it's workable and could be more stable than "burst firing" with the wrist with practice. I'll look into getting a glove too, then. Thanks!

>> No.7196402

>>7196398
>I just tried using my shoulder for a few minutes and it's really tough,
are you working on a flat table?
try using an inclined table or tablet if you can, it will really help with the shoulder movements

>> No.7196405

>>7196402
I am. I do have a little adjustable table thingie I could try using, I'll see if it helps. Thanks again!

>> No.7196422

new thread >>7196389
>>7196389
>>7196389
>>7196389

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>>7196377
>Do I really need a silly glove for this
Yes? Even on paper you use gloves
What a retarded question

>> No.7196690

>>7196370
Anon began to love the wagie cagie. Many such cases.

>> No.7196776

>>7196370
Ilegal immigrants, autismbux and colored people get fucktons of money from american welfare state.

>> No.7196830

>>7196776
>autismbux
That's perfectly fine.
>colored people
America's black problem goes way beyond "gibs". The problem with blacks is that america just doesn't want them. You don't want a nigger attending your store, or marrying your daughter, or near your community-neighbourhood. They don't "live a life on gibs", they just are in a social limbo. Not part of the system, not part of "life".
>Ilegal immigrants
Those are actually the hardest workers in america. They work three times as hard as the average american citizen because the illegals have no security, no gov help, no trade union. They are the only ones making it raw by their own.

This is way america is doomed, people don't even know what the fuck are they talking about. There are no "GIBS" in america. And that's why it is a dumpster on fire. Chinese are investing TRILLIONS on their people, that builds a strong nation from the roots. We are crumbling, in our own idiotic thinking, "no more 'gibs' ", "no more heath care", "no more education", "no more labour rights", and one day we won't have a nation no more.

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Trying to improve my NSFW art, do you guys have any tips and/or recommendations to what I should be studying?ytms

>> No.7197518

fundies?
More like UNDIES
Cause they both STINK!
haha gottem