int/ & /beg/ - Intermediateand Beginners General

[Anonymous No.7181253]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

Previous thread >>>7179604

[Anonymous No.7181260]

>>7180904
>12/96
Just did a single robot while watching Kimetsu to move my arm a bit. This is enough for today. 11/96 was just some figure drawing

[Anonymous No.7181262]

[Anonymous No.7181278]

too blackpilled on my permasketchceldom
i will literally never finish anything. its over.

[Anonymous No.7181281]

I didn’t draw today not because it’s a holiday but because I don’t draw anymore.

[Anonymous No.7181285]

>>7181262
Good practice, bro. You're doing boxes and bodies in one session.

[Anonymous No.7181299]

>>7181232
>>7181258
Thanks anons, I'll go research Construction right away. While I didn't trace, I did erase and redraw most lines many times until I felt they were similar enough to the original, and used paint to take rough proportion measurements. I continued some of the out-of-sight lines digitally too to aid myself in places where the drawing and original were not similar. I hardly think that counts as "construction" though.

Is it worthwhile to try to reconstruct the basic shapes digitally over the original drawing first before attempting to replicate it on paper? Or would that also just be tracing with extra steps?

[Anonymous No.7181376]

I have no idea wtf this is, but you can have it

[Anonymous No.7181378]

>>7181253
Finished but there's something off with the face and I'm not sure what it is. Looks kinda derpy and I'm not sure if it's just because I need to get gud or what.

Maybe a fresh pair of eyes can tell me what's wrong? Her head is meant to be slightly down tilt.

[Anonymous No.7181383]

[Anonymous No.7181384]

spent all day drawing meme manga pannels with my new brush pen instead of actually practcing

[Anonymous No.7181389]

>>7181383
nipples should be centered closer to the tip of the breast's prominence, those are placed waaay too high up. think of where they'd be if you receded the boobs; she'd practically have nips up on her collarbone

[Anonymous No.7181390]

>>7181253
how do i increase my appeal

[Anonymous No.7181403]

>>7181390
>increase my appeal
for whom? different things appeal to different people. if you want to impress the most amount of people, i.e. normies, look at what they consume and copy it; though this really applies with whatever audience you're trying to appeal to. nevertheless, if you yourself don't understand what is appealing to an audience, and you're asking others for that info, you're merely taking their word for it. if you want to actually know what appeals to different people and how to make your art appeal to them, you need to get good, frankly.

[Anonymous No.7181407]

>>7181390
Copy/study appealing people I think

[Anonymous No.7181411]

>>7181299
Construction uses the skills practiced to make a complete figure drawing. Spheres for the head, cylinders in perspective, etc. It's just like the video you posted.
Those boxes and cylinders you've been drawing? They make up the hands and skull that came later.
Bowls andteacups? Made up of the sliced spheres and cylinders before them.
Boxes in perspective and rotating? Useful to plan out perspective, how the body bends, etc
What's missing? How to measure (your vertical lines are part of it), general proportions of the body and head, quick gestures for sketching poses and whatever else is needed for the situation

[Anonymous No.7181425]

>>7181390
should take the copy pill anon.

[Anonymous No.7181427]

>>7181425
>
you should copy more anatomy

[Anonymous No.7181431]

>>7181378
her eyes look like theyre looking down. Im assuming you want her to have her head tilted down with her eyes looking at the viewer. For her, that would make her eyes look up so she can see straight ahead.

[Anonymous No.7181438]

>>7181431
Shit man I think you're right, thanks! Now that you mention it and I'm focused on her eyes, I think they're too unfocused. Not like she's derping out but just not staring at someone in front of her.

>her head tilted down
Yeah that was the goal. Glad enough of that came through to give the impression it was what I was going for.

As an aside, she's meant to be like 7'6'' so how do people usually deal with big characters looking at the viewer? Do we just say 'fuck it' and assume the viewer is standing at a higher vantage point or what? Am I just autistic?

>>7181383
I like it!

[Anonymous No.7181444]

>>7181427
pyw

[Anonymous No.7181447]

>>7181438
Yeah, the camera is technically a person, but more like a ghost. You can put it anywhere, but you the rule is "what are you trying to show."
the camera shot youre using is emphasizing her strength with with her build, a lower camera angle would emphasiz her stature and overall height. You can do that with another art piece.
Youre not autistic, this is another skill artist need to learn, youre just waking up to it.

[Anonymous No.7181450]

[Anonymous No.7181459]

I'll just do the rendering later

[Anonymous No.7181497]

HOW DO I FUCKING GET THE ENERGY TO DRAW

I WANT TO DRAW BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE TABLET DRAINS MY STAMINA

[Anonymous No.7181510]

>>7181497
2 cups of coffee works for me

[Anonymous No.7181515]

I had a horrible virus that I had to factory reset to fix, and I couldn't restore my settings for CSP. I have all my brushes, just none of the 'details'.

I have been trying to fix it, but the pen pressure and stabilization feels wrong and I can't draw lines like I used to. I spend an hour banging my head against a wall by trying to fix it with no progress, take a 20min break, go another hour making no progress fixing it, repeat.

Is there some recommended settings somewhere? It had been 3 months and I am at my breaking point. Please help.

[Anonymous No.7181516]

>>7181425
I'm trying to take the pill idk if I'm doing it right

[Anonymous No.7181518]

getting using with digital sketching again

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7181528]

[Anonymous No.7181531]

>>7181515
Learn to use the defaults.

[Anonymous No.7181541]

>>7181531
No. I see a lot of illustrators and all the videos I see from them always say to change the settings... but they never say what their settings are. And it is very important because the defaults are bad.

[Anonymous No.7181546]

i don't have time to scan each trad drawing into photoshop to check errors will my copying skills improve if I just keep spamming copy after copy

pretty terrible at it rn - >>7181386

[Anonymous No.7181561]

>>7181378
I think I fixed it.

Gonna go ahead and colour and the follow up pic of her proudly tensing.

[Anonymous No.7181593]

>>7181541
Tools don't make the artist.

[Anonymous No.7181621]

Tried this during work meeting today again (10 min). No ref this time. I'll come back and attempt hands after work.

[Anonymous No.7181631]

>>7181497
How many people have seen this episode?

[Anonymous No.7181633]

>>7181497
>>7181631
Sailor Mouth / Artist Unknown, S2, it's on Paramount Plus!

[Anonymous No.7181634]

don't really like it, but it was fun

[Anonymous No.7181640]

>>7181634
looks better with just airbrush

[Anonymous No.7181641]

how do you guys construct anime faces

[Anonymous No.7181644]

>>7181641
You can do it alright with Loomis. Pick an anime reference you like, try to stylize the loomis head based on that. Mine is relatively wrong though.

[Anonymous No.7181649]

>>7181641
Literally like a cats

[Anonymous No.7181652]

>>7181649
how do you construct cat face

[Anonymous No.7181654]

>>7181649
please dont be retarded enough to take your art education from trendhopping tiktok memes idiot-chan

[Anonymous No.7181656]

I won’t draw today, either, because you’d just tell me I’m NGMI anyway.

[Anonymous No.7181658]

>>7181427
I find anatomy in of itself is a beg trap. You can get by just knowing the bony landmarks when constructing though I admit I am very bad with hands and feet. I'm afraid I might discover a hidden fetish within me.

[Anonymous No.7181662]

>>7181640
>>7181634
I like it anon. Very soulful. Do you have a bloggu?

[Anonymous No.7181667]

>>7181658
>develops an amputee fetish from being unable to draw coombait with hands and feet
lmaoo

[Anonymous No.7181668]

>>7181662
thanks, you can check @dezadeza55 on twitter, but I'm not really into blogs

[Anonymous No.7181671]

>>7181667
I'm rather self aware individual, anon. You think I don't know that already? Retard.

[Anonymous No.7181673]

Give me critique, tips, how to fix, Ic.

[Anonymous No.7181684]

I struggle mightily with how to render the lineart properly. Also I feel like a retard when it comes to shadow. How do I improve these factors?

[Anonymous No.7181689]

>>7181425
now lineart it

[Anonymous No.7181695]

>>7181641
a modified version of the loomis method. Well, its the same, but with adjusted proportions.

[Anonymous No.7181699]

>>7181673
How does that choker even work perspective wise.

[Anonymous No.7181703]

>>7181684
I think you have a structure/anatomy problem, which no amount of lineart, rendering, or shadows will fix.

[Anonymous No.7181725]

>>7181684
Stop polishing turds and learn gesture properly

[Anonymous No.7181743]

>>7181673
I don't like how brown everything is and the yellow face paint is barely visible.
You'r line work is nice and she is drawn well anatomically. 10/10, would rail her petite apple but and suck on them perky breasts.

[Anonymous No.7181747]

>>7181658
>You can get by just knowing the bony landmarks when constructing
This is basically what I'm looking for. Who has this information on hand? I'm not trying to draw hyper realistic figures, I want just enough to look okay.

[Anonymous No.7181748]

>>7181593
What about tOoLs NoT RuLeS then? Artists give such conflicting advice, it's unreal.

[Anonymous No.7181754]

>>7181253

[Anonymous No.7181755]

>>7181748
How does that contradict it, you fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.7181756]

>>7181747
When someone asks me directions in a city I have lived my whole life, I go braindead. I don't know all the street names, I know paths I've taken to get where they've asked. Paths I've made for myself with landmarks that I remember. It personalized. Many people do the same, and they may use the same landmark, but ultimately, they use their own crude system. Its personalized

You're going to have to do some anatomy study and pick out what you know. However, this analogy falls short because you're still going to have everyone point out where you did wrong since what you ignored can bite you in your ass if it just looks ugly.

Do your own study.

[Anonymous No.7181758]

>>7181755
How does it not, you fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.7181762]

>>7181758
Not that anon, but it really doesn't contradict.
You can use whatever tool you want, it doesn't make you an artist however.
Thats the rule you're not and we are not paying attention to here, no one knows what makes an artist, We do not its not the tools he uses, but how he uses them.
So yeah, its not a contradiction.

[Anonymous No.7181764]

>>7181762
*We do know its not the tools he uses, but how he uses them.

[Anonymous No.7181769]

[Anonymous No.7181771]

>>7181769
bullshit. You dont even know why or how it is "bad"

[Anonymous No.7181773]

Jesus Icon im working on; gonna try to do it in pixel art

[Anonymous No.7181776]

>>7181769

[Anonymous No.7181777]

Drawing without reference, testing my Green Lantern minds eye 3D construction abilities and seeing if I can rotate the same pose at different camera angles. The first two don't have much a difference between them. Going to try again later. Fun exercise and a good confidence boost that my grinding fundies has paid off.

[Anonymous No.7181778]

>>7181777
This one was just a test if I could draw something without reference. Can't say its not 100% not used from reference since I must have memorized this pose from the amount of pornos I've watched.

[Anonymous No.7181780]

>>7181778
>Can't say its not 100% not used from reference
Triple negative, I didn't know it was not possible to not do that.
I picked a hell of a day to stop drinking.

[Anonymous No.7181784]

Tmnt

[Anonymous No.7181791]

>>7181762
Okay sorry I included a picture, disregard it and focus on the question. I know my art is not good. This isn't a question asking how to draw. I need to get my settings back.
I do not need art philosophy telling me 'just draw with your mind!' and act like this is not a problem. Right now it looks like the brush is about a tenth of the actual size.

(Everything not on here is not active, so for example everything on 2 - brush shape is turned off.)

[Anonymous No.7181793]

>>7181791
The lines feel very off, and stabilization doesn't really seem to do much. Not as much flex but also but very stable, those letters. A lot of little things that are hard to explain which is why I asked from the start if there is recommended settings.
If you could post your own settings for comparison to mine since you guys seem to have it all figured out, it would mean everything to me.

[Anonymous No.7181794]

>>7181791
>stabilization 20
I honestly don't know how you people deal with the software taking all control away from you lol. Set on 0 no matter the brush

[Anonymous No.7181804]

>>7181784
Gritty. I think you should try looking up references on bloody teeth to see how drool interacts with blood next, it can get really dark from what I've seen

[Anonymous No.7181824]

>>7181791
>(It's been forever since I used CSP since i switched to ipad but i should remember everything. )

use the following pressure curve: https://files.catbox.moe/6lrc0c.jpeg
it is best curve for sketching imo, i got it from googling "professional artist pressure curves" and most japs use this too.

YOUR PRESSURE CURVES from left to right:
1) sloped up like that is how i did it for a long time, but you are going to work harder than need be, plus the end result doesn't look as good. see pic related, i did the entire picture using that setting. I would honestly just not use the built in "draw freely on the canvas with the pen" because it affects all brushes and can lead to you not understanding why a certain tool is doing what its doing.

2 + 3 I don't understand so i wont comment.

NEXT CSP is fatal with having some dumb setting enabled but here's my opinion on which to turn off/on: (btw in general the less settings enabled on a brush, the better because the CPU doesn't have to work so hard)

HARD ROUND with linked above pressure curve (pressure 0% tilt min100-150max i never messed with the tilt default but you do you)

OPACITY 100% (can be less like 90% but i prefer solid strokes and just fuck with the layer opacity instead if i want it lighter.)

"Correct velocity input" does not need to be enabled unless you have velocity enabled for the brush. this is found between tilt and random.
"adjust by speed" in general can be off if you have stabilization on, just more factors to deal with imo. just adjust the stabilization option (even to 100% if you are doing a vector like curve)

"blend brush tips with darken" doesn't hurt but i cant recall if i used it.
Doesn't come into super play for me since i dont like lower then 100% brushes.
"brush density" and "adjust density by gap" under brush tip doesn't need to be on unless you want alterations in opacity but again some people like it, i don't.
(cont. in next post)

[Anonymous No.7181825]

Help!
Can anyone direct me to resources on drawing clothes?
I'm making an animation, and I can draw the character figures just fine, but drawing things like dress shirts and suits over them fucks me up massively. A resource with an anime style thats a little simplified would be nice, but anything you think would be good to learn from.
If theres something for this in the sticky I can't find it.

[Anonymous No.7181827]

>>7181671
you obviously know, you're the one who said it, i was just restating it to make fun of you because that's very funny anon
getting all prickly about it because you're embarassed, also funny

[Anonymous No.7181830]

>>7181791
>>7181824
CORRECTION ->
TAPER: lowest setting = 1

STARTING AND ENDING AND BY SPEED: turn off all these. idk i just dont like the delay but you do you

that should cover everything! hope that helps

[Anonymous No.7181848]

>>7181773
I think you missed a scribble in his left ear

[Anonymous No.7181855]

how the fuck do approach this pose, what is her torso even doing.

[Anonymous No.7181863]

>>7181824
Is using the default pressure curve fine? Not sure what to change if I should change to the curve on your catbox link

[Anonymous No.7181864]

I'm a eternal beg with some understanding of figure drawing. I'm good enough at that I got commissions quite a handful of times. But I want to learn to draw for real.
Should I do Keys to drawing or Bridgman first?

[Anonymous No.7181865]

I'm super new to drawing.
Is tracing actually useful at all to improve?
Do I have to do it a specific way to build proper skills/intuitions or just placing semitransparent reference as background layer is ok?
Is it more efficient to do something else to improve?

[Anonymous No.7181866]

>>7181865
>is tracing a way to improve
No. Not at all. Study construction.

[Anonymous No.7181868]

>>7181855
something like this i used a mouse so cut me some slack

[Anonymous No.7181870]

>>7181868
oh I see I think, so her spine isnt actually bending sideways, but leaning forward, right? its the whole torso thats slightly tilted.

[Anonymous No.7181892]

>>7181863
yeah defaults fine too, if you want to create a more complex curve just right click add point

[Anonymous No.7181903]

Thoughts? Any advice?

[Anonymous No.7181911]

Shadows are annoying

[Anonymous No.7181916]

made this a bunch of time ago

[Anonymous No.7181952]

Some more heads. The front, 3/4 and side profile were quick, but I struggled to get the other ones to look generally correct. Would appreciate any critique/tips.

Still, pretty happy and gonna try to do more out there angles and add some features next.

>>7181865
Tracing on its own will probably not help you. However I find that drawing construction and the most important line on top of a piece and then trying to redo it yourself can really help.

>>7181773
I think yours looks much better than mine did, but I'm gonna echo the advice I was told. Try to work on your lines. I generally like the more scribbly look, but it looks less like a deliberate choice and more like not quite getting the correct lines, especially around the mouth and jaw area.

[Anonymous No.7181974]

How you holdin up /beg/? Me? I don't know man.

[Anonymous No.7181975]

What kind of brush can I use to get this line look
Im using krita

[Anonymous No.7181976]

>>7181975
It's literally just a small hard round brush.

[Anonymous No.7181979]

>>7181516
You are doing well bro, I could immediately recognize the try figures
if anything, I would check the size of the head in relation to the body on the nero figure
but overall they are good

[Anonymous No.7181991]

>>7181979
Torso much too short, sadly :/

[Anonymous No.7181993]

>>7181976
is a brush in krita?

[Anonymous No.7182003]

>>7181497
when you really don't want to draw, just do something else for a bit, but keep drawing in the back of your mind someplace. if it doesn't pull you by the end of the day, just do some before bed doodles to log a little practice and leave it there, do them traditional if the tablet is too much hassle.
we don't have to be machines to become better artists. and in fact, trying to make yourself one will just burn you out and cause you to lose passion for making art at all. take a few hours or a day off, it won't suddenly put you back at day one
everyone here could probably stand to remember that more

[Anonymous No.7182005]

>>7181993
>>7181975
think this brush might give you similar results
make it really small for lineart and then bump up the size for colouring

[Anonymous No.7182013]

>>7181974
I'm tired of owls

[Anonymous No.7182015]

>THREE /beg/ & /int/ threads up at the same time

Wait until page 10 to make a new thread guys

[Anonymous No.7182018]

>>7182015
they've reached the bumplimit retard so a new thread was made

[Anonymous No.7182027]

>>7182015
>being this new

[Anonymous No.7182034]

>>7182018
Bump limit, yeah, not image limit
This board isn't very fast, so we can still use the threads when they reach the limit, this ain't /vt

[Anonymous No.7182047]

>>7182005
im not actually sure these kind of lines you can get with that brush, they have a pencil-like quality to them, idk

[Anonymous No.7182060]

>>7182034
>let's keep posting in a dying thread because the image limit hasn't been reached
hello, retard department?
yes, he's on the loose again.

[Anonymous No.7182063]

>>7182015
>>7182034
only jannies care about the bump limit, im dont posting in a dead thread fag lmao

[Anonymous No.7182066]

>>7182015
>reddit spacing
>>7182063
>annoying
gr2

[Anonymous No.7182067]

>>7181253
I think I fucked up the anatomy somewhere down the line.

[Anonymous No.7182068]

>>7182067
Big head. Long legs.

[Anonymous No.7182069]

>>7182066
nobody is ever going to post in your dead threads fag, im always gonna make a new thread on bump limit, what are you gonna do about it? what are you gonna do about it little bro?

[Anonymous No.7182073]

>>7182047
>>7182005
tried to do a quick study, it doesnt seem to have the look
It's not a bad look per se (im probably gonna be using this brush from now on) but it does look completely differently, so i still dont know how that artist got his lines to look like that

[Anonymous No.7182075]

>>7182015
Ignore the other newfag retards.
We used to keep posting in bump limit threads so as not to spam /beg/ threads on /ic/ and bump other draw threads off the board. Mind you this was during a time when /ic/ was at its prime. After the invent of AI people stopped coming here, and now the most of the active draw threads are dead so it no longer matters.

[Anonymous No.7182077]

>>7182073
You redrew that fat bitch better than the original artist. In fairness its easier to improve a finished drawing than to make something original though. Original art looked ugly, when midnas supposed to be cute, you made her look about 20% cuter

[Anonymous No.7182078]

>>7182075
I see, ho well, not that I care that much.
Thanks for the sad trivia

[Anonymous No.7182081]

>>7182077
>>7182073
I'm like 90% sure that Midna drawing was made by Sir Fit. He still posts on 4chan, if anon can find him he can ask.

[Anonymous No.7182084]

>>7182081
he probably doesnt use that piece of shit krita
I think krita just has a trash brush engine

[Anonymous No.7182086]

Did I do good?

[Anonymous No.7182087]

>>7182086
You should post this on /co/

[Anonymous No.7182089]

>>7181658
>>7181667
>>7181671
Nothing wrong about it. There should be more amputee sexy content, it can be quite hot. Why discriminate disabled hot babes? They are as human as any other, with human needs too. Porn needs more empathy and diversity.

[Anonymous No.7182093]

>>7182089
why'd you stop posting on /dad/, tableguy?

[Anonymous No.7182096]

>>7182073
yeah im not sure man
That was just the closest brush I could think of off the top of my head
you could try tweaking the brush settings but I don't know how to do that in Krita. Should be easy enough to find some YouTube vids on it or smth

nice work on the study tho

[Anonymous No.7182103]

>>7181979
Anon please just one ntr drawing..

[Anonymous No.7182109]

>>7182089
Hey man your figures have always been pretty expressive. Trying to make mine less stiff, any advice on gestures? Here's some of my attempts from today and yesterday.

[Anonymous No.7182123]

Dusk

[Anonymous No.7182129]

How's my Loomis head? Going to work on features after I'm confident here, but I found out using perspectives and drawing boxes helped me the most with centerline formation. Had to erase some lines previously cause I went on autopilot lmao

[Anonymous No.7182135]

another go, this time its "basic-6 details"

>>7182096
i mean i know that i can change the brush its that i dont even know which direction I should go or if its even the brush not my technique
>>7182077
>when midnas supposed to be cute
I though she was supposed to be provocative/lewd

[Anonymous No.7182139]

>>7182135
>thought she was supposed to be provocative
She is provocative, Im speaking visually, shes a little imp with a pretty face and big eyes.

[Anonymous No.7182140]

>>7182129
wtf are these measurements bro

[Anonymous No.7182142]

>>7181892
Ah thank you! I will be sure to keep that in mind. I'm using a tablet and read about anons saying you need to use a "soft pressure" as not to wear the tablet too fast.
But thank you for answering.

[Anonymous No.7182156]

>>7182140
https://youtu.be/fyJumQxuXfQ?si=RuVAHlVRkTeE4nYv
It's just a sketch, it ain't anything that complex. I personally think that I'm starting to build a good foundation to be able to then work along those classes in your pic somewhere soon down the line

[Anonymous No.7182162]

>>7182109
Not tableguy but you seem to never follow through your strokes and take too much time placing them. None of your lines are confident. Chicken scratch like >>7182073 although is only a rough sketch feel very loose and dynamic which is the very essence of figure drawing aka stop being perfect and you might just end up getting good eventually.

[Anonymous No.7182165]

>>7182156
Try again. Use the hair-line this time.
>It's just a sketch, it ain't anything that complex.
It's not a sketch; you're learning construction.

[Anonymous No.7182168]

>>7181855
Use general landmarks.
Take only the torso length (clavicle to crotch)
Divide by half to get the bottom of ribcage.
Divide bottom half by 3rds to get top of hips so you know where to draw panty line.
Some tips:
Learn anatomical landmarks and the ratio of the body.
Figure out how Contrapposto affects the heights and then apply to more examples.
She is bending forward a bit so theoretically you should be drawing her top portion slightly bigger than her bottom because of perspective etc

[Anonymous No.7182172]

>>7182165
I appreciate you anon, thank you!

[Anonymous No.7182176]

>>7182162
dunning kruger

[Anonymous No.7182179]

>>7182162
Sorry about the other anon, thanks for the insight.

[Anonymous No.7182194]

Can you paint while being shitty at drawing?

[Anonymous No.7182197]

>>7182109
Thanks man! To be honest I wouldn't know what to answer. You're doing pretty good, I don't think that I could "teach" anything to someone like you. But I could say that unchaining your "coomer inner-self" would allow to mentally go there. Art expression is a mind thing/game. If you're already good as you are, with a solid sense of structure and anatomy, then whatever crazy shit your random lines and ideas take you, you will find the "possible" visual solution to that crazy pose. You know, like in those "Character creator" engines from games, you max out everything but the game does it within some rational and constant parameters, so the resulting figure "works". You will get there as well, whatever crazy gesture you throw at the paper you will build a shape that will "match it somehow". But you need the "mental drive", it is like overclocking a processor, you know, coom shit usually does that. You don't have to post that, or show that, but it works.
About those figures that I do, for some reason that works better without reference, that cartoony bullshit I do it with out any reference so it's just crazy shit, the figure it's not limited or "contaminated" by "logic and rationality" lol. So it can go anywhere.
If I follow a reference like I did over you pic there, my figures start to get much more limited and "real". I was thinking about doing a "no ref - no rational" version of those same poses but, I'm kinda tired lmao. I said that, but I'm gonna keep drawing some other bullshit lol.
Good luck anon, have fun and happy drawings.

[Anonymous No.7182198]

>>7182197
Very nice, thanks so much.
Honestly shocked you don't use reference, that takes skill. Your art reminds me of that fan made Dune game a while back.

[Anonymous No.7182203]

anyone have the torrent for the NMA drawing with force course?

[Anonymous No.7182253]

>>7182168
Very useful, thanks for your insight.

[Anonymous No.7182254]

>>7182068
Shit I knew it, thanks man. I even made them smaller during coloring. Guess I didn't do it enough.
>>7182089
I wonder how profitable is amputee art?

>>7182194
Same reason, I try to make music. I'm shitty at it but, I have a interest in making my own.

[Anonymous No.7182265]

>>7181916
cute

[Anonymous No.7182270]

>>7182067
The head seems a bit big also the neck is narrower at the base I’d keep it straight. Legs are long but I like it it can pass as style preference

Looking for advice on consistency or any mistakes

[Anonymous No.7182276]

hand and feet studies then I remembered the twitter meme and wanted to give it shot.

[Anonymous No.7182277]

>>7181450
arms too short, always imagine them masturbating

[Anonymous No.7182280]

>>7182277
anything else?

[Anonymous No.7182287]

>>7182089
amputee fetish is weird because it's not about "celebrating disabled hotties" it's rooted in extreme dominance/submission stuff that's usually coming from a very creepy misogynistic place

[Anonymous No.7182288]

>>7182280
helmet eyes wonky, sword spikes not in perspective, belt medal is slightly off perspective, hand is in an unnatural position

[Anonymous No.7182292]

>>7182270
eye placement is all over the place (or face)

[Anonymous No.7182293]

Guys, I am in a bit of uncertianty. I am trying to do something new with my shading method by using Triaic colors rather than my usual. This is just a sample but what do you guys suggest?

[Anonymous No.7182305]

I have no idea what this is about but tried to adjust your ball.

[Anonymous No.7182311]

>>7182305
How did you pull that one off? Also there are some better details but I am about to take a swim. I will share the details later.

[Anonymous No.7182314]

>>7182287
how do you know what it's about? Some people definetely like it because it's disarming the woman, but you can't say that it's like this for everyone. The "fetish" is just amputees, that's the only essential part.

[Anonymous No.7182331]

Aside from the fact that the coloring isnt finished, is there something im still missing from the original's appeal?

[Anonymous No.7182335]

>>7182198
Yes, Behind the dune, by Balsamique big fan. Also you can find Roninsong's style too. It's all about personal fun, so I put things that I want to see. There on picrel, that's an exploration thing that I can do super fast, that's why it looks simple and cartoony, people here hate that, lol. But I don't do it for "likes". Just as every anon here posting stuff that they know is just grinding material, I'm trying to find shapes, poses, something that I would like, but I wouldn't know till I do it, and the only way to do that is to try stuff. We are our own "AI". I have my own mental "prompts", I like exposed defined torsos, I like big tits, skinny arms, nice legs, with a style resembling Roninsong, Balsamique, and some others as well. Now, There are real reference like solomia_maievska, or Kay Parker, women that have that type of body, so I can check on them, and when you have so many specific details of what you like, then, an actual image reference is not necessary, because it doesn't exist the reference of what you are trying to do. It's a fun exercise. I have the ingredients, I make the mix wich is the fun part, and let's see what happens lol.
So, it will happen to you as well, you will want to do stuff with no ref because you will be free to do whatever you want. That could become a problem though, you could get lost on bizarro land and never come back xD

[Anonymous No.7182344]

>want to draw cute girls
>learning to draw involves a lot of not doing that
Somebody give me the secret level skip, PLEASE!

[Anonymous No.7182352]

>>7182254
>I wonder how profitable is amputee art?
You wouldn't know till you try it. The main problem that I see, is that everyone approaches the thing from a "guro" perspective, wich is wrong, and totally unnecessary. I could make a quick comic around that theme, and it would have nothing related to guro at all. And it could be sexy as fuck. But yeah, the unnecessary guro approach is the problem.
>>7182287
>it's rooted in extreme dominance/submission stuff that's usually coming from a very creepy misogynistic place
But you could say that about the whole concept of sexuality as well. SEX is all about "dominance/submission". And yes bondage fetish and the like are "extreme" boosters of that "dominance/submission" concept. That's what bondage is, that's what people tying themselves and using handcuffs and all that bullshit is about. The problem is that childish mentality unable to discern what an adult fantasy game is, and that NOT EVERYTHING must be "Rated G". That's the new standard nowadays. Everything must be R-G, if a movie is Rated-R today it makes the news. We lost the capacity to enjoy things, because BIG BROTHER says so. Big Bro wants you to buy and see ONE standardized product.Wich is sick. Adult things and games are adult things and games. The moment we started mixing everything into ONE STANDARD MARKET is the moment when everything went to shit.

[Anonymous No.7182363]

>>7182352
>But you could say that about the whole concept of sexuality as well. SEX is all about "dominance/submission"
dont care what youre talking about but this is just incorrect

[Anonymous No.7182371]

>>7181253
Hoping an anon would give me some tips on foreshortening. I know my anatomy could be better, but i know how to work on that. Thank you kindly in advance!

[Anonymous No.7182372]

>>7182371
I take it back, i just need help in general. Lol

[Anonymous No.7182375]

>>7182344
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.7182381]

>>7181253
My most recent finish drawing. I’m feeling stagnant for some reason. Any tips would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.7182394]

Have you seen how Tetsuya Nomura draws?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPjqdj6OkLA
He does not give a fuck. He holds his pencil like a lesbian giving a handjob and he rests his arm on the paper at all times. Art teacher around the world die internally watching this.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7182399]

[Anonymous No.7182402]

>>7182372
>>7182371
the foreshortening on the arm in the left is good, your anatomy needs more polish, but it's current level is mid beg, the anatomy in the legs is low beg tho, you need more polish and since you aregoing for a more exaggerated muscle/bara type of body look for these references, if this was a copy pls sudoku urself. otherwise just grind more anatomy and stylization.

[Anonymous No.7182415]

I have no sense of 3D. So low spatial reasoning. What should I do to train myself?

[Anonymous No.7182420]

>>7182399
nice!

[Anonymous No.7182424]

>>7182331
Original conveyed a better sense of movement in the hair-arm. It's a nitpick but figured it was worth mentioning.

[Anonymous No.7182426]

>>7181621
I am a beg but you better use line with more conviction. Draw a long ass line in single stroke

[Anonymous No.7182428]

[Anonymous No.7182429]

>>7182415
draw the rest of the cubes
redraw them from memory
see where you went wrong and try again

[Anonymous No.7182434]

>>7182428
Lol, verry nice man!

[Anonymous No.7182455]

>>7182428
nice, really like it. :]

[Anonymous No.7182459]

>>7182434
>>7182455
thank you!!

[Anonymous No.7182463]

Enjoying the new Dota Patch, but now it is art time. Tried to do a more isometric/angled perspective. Might have exaggerated some parts or got some things wrong, but I think it looks cool and that makes me happy for now. Would love some advice though.

>>7182415
I really shouldn't be talking due to my the pic I posted here, but I think boxes are a good exercise to build this muscle. However, try finding photos or artwork you like and try drawing boxes over the shapes that you see. This is tricky because you do need a frame of reference, but I believe just trying to get a feel for 3D objects in 3D space can help. I also highly recommend "Perspective Made Easy" as it distills all the fundamentals of perspective in a very quick manner. Good reminder for myself to look over that book again. With that book I used to do quick thumbnail sketches of "city streets" where I'd place a horizon line and place cubes and geometric shapes down the street to practice vanishing points etc.

>>7182381
Two things stand out: Avoid using airbrush when you're fully rendering out an artwork because it can give your artwork a very distinct "unappealing digital" look to it. Mix in hard edges to convey forms. The other thing is introducing hue-shifting to shadows and highlights. Take your base color and make it warmer for shadows or colder for highlights -- or do the inverse! I did this too as a beginner, but try to also avoid the universal "airbrush shadows" on each of a subject's form. It's a safety net for rendering that often looks off. Use a reference and see what parts of the body are capturing light and which are capturing shadows. That shoulder would more than likely have highlights. I also get the feeling of symbol drawing with the eyes and nose. Feels less like a face with 3D form and more like 2D features pasted onto a plane. Study planes of the face and see where light and shadows form on the face.

[Anonymous No.7182474]

>>7182314
You're right and this is why i'm not going around attacking individuals for being into it. It's not always a sexist thing.
But it definitely a lot of the time is and that bothers me enough to be sus of any guy who's into it
>>7182352
dude get off your schizo high horse this isn't some prissy puritanism. the other poster understood what i was saying, how this thing specifically can take on uncomfortable connotations of "disarming the woman." i don't mind things being horny and kinky, even a lot so, what i mind is things that objectify women

[Anonymous No.7182477]

>>7182194
yes? no?

[Anonymous No.7182481]

>>7182477
Why dont you just try shit out instead and figure it out for yourself.

[Anonymous No.7182483]

>>7182477
Yes, I can do process painting if I want, why are you asking

[Anonymous No.7182486]

can't figure out how to draw ribcages not flat. i'm still using some kind of reilly's method for figure drawing

[Anonymous No.7182487]

>>7182352
>>7182474
I don't want to derail this into kink-shaming, but I have to agree with the anon who's uncomfortable by it. Bondage/Dom/Sub kinks heavily rely on the Submissive having complete control of the situation with their Dom respecting that, despite what might be seen on the surface.

Amputee fetishism could fall into this category but majority of the content made for it contradicts this. It's much harder for the sub to be granted control of a situation if they are physically unable to resist or escape a situation, especially in hyper amputee scenarios. With normal kinky bondage, a Dom is restraining a Sub because that's what the Sub wants and is excited by. With amputee fetishism it often feels like the Sub being an amputee is more exciting for the Dom than it is for the Sub.

Could there be a gentler more trust based side for Amputee fetishism? Absolutely. But it feels like majority of the people who have this kink just have a fixation of a woman being extremely vulnerable and reliant on them.

But anon, you could be the difference. Start making some wholesome amputee art and tip that community on its axis.

[Anonymous No.7182491]

>>7181258
Appreciate the feedback!
>this has the issue many mangas have: cluttered unreadable composition.
This was a hard truth to accept, because I spent a good bit of time on the composition, but where things fell apart was applying the values. I did a value comp specifically to address the problem of values blending together. It was supposed to be dark thot/light dragon/dark ceiling/darker columns. Where it fell apart (and I could sense it fell apart, but not why until I read this critique) was that I didn't consider the local value of the objects in planning. So when I tried to make the locally light thot in heavy shadow and the locally dark dragon in high-key light, I ended up with values that were too close together. (I also think the dry brushing in the background ended up busier than I intended, too). One question about
>make outline of dragon MASSIVE, etc.
Do you mean literally beef up the outline, or do you mean make the silhouette of the dragon bigger?
>It is very cool otherwise
Glad you liked it!

[Anonymous No.7182503]

>>7182487
>kink-shaming
subhuman degenerates should be shamed you twitter nigger

[Anonymous No.7182512]

>>7181253
Is there any reason I shouldn't blast through Taco, Morpho and Bridgman?

[Anonymous No.7182521]

>>7182512
Stop looking for reasons to not do things.

[Anonymous No.7182524]

dusting off my very unread copy of loomis' figure drawing book, what's the best way to engage with this book to get the most out of it? trying to treat it like a self-guided class.
i was thinking first just read through it, then go back and do the exercises in each section? then like supplement quick poses in there somewhere so i'm looking at references too and not just learning to make mannequins

[Anonymous No.7182527]

>>7182524
Read it first. no need to make plans beyond that just yet.

[Anonymous No.7182528]

>>7182521
another useless crab answer

[Anonymous No.7182531]

>>7182528
You wont be able to finish it.

[Anonymous No.7182534]

>>7182524
I would read a portion and then do the exercises before moving on to the next block of content.

[Anonymous No.7182536]

>>7182531
i wouldn't be doing it all at once

[Anonymous No.7182540]

>>7182536
I meant I have very little faith in you even finishing reading the book.

[Anonymous No.7182545]

>>7182540
le tough guy pep talk reverse psychology shit won't work on me bro

[Anonymous No.7182547]

>>7181253

[Anonymous No.7182554]

>>7182547
Is this Michael Hampton or Proko robo bean?

[Anonymous No.7182555]

>>7182481
Why don’t you just shut the fuck up nigger?

[Anonymous No.7182557]

>>7182554
im using using Steve Huston's teachings, simple yet characteristic shapes only, just a tube or box like tube to represent the body, then slowly building on sophistication where need if needed at the connections points

[Anonymous No.7182562]

>>7182557
stevehuston enjoyer gmi

[Anonymous No.7182564]

>>7182305
Wait...its coming together now

[Anonymous No.7182582]

I painted tubgirl

[Anonymous No.7182583]

>>7182582
Thats quite wise actually

[Anonymous No.7182594]

>>7182557
Book or video resources? Link plz

[Anonymous No.7182611]

>13/96
Just realized how cute a pelvis is.

[Anonymous No.7182625]

>>7182344
learn to prompt

[Anonymous No.7182642]

the bestest girl

[Anonymous No.7182645]

>>7182344
Just look up books and tutorials were they only work with cutesy pootsy anime anatomy and aesthetics. You will have to draw some manequins before starting to do the cute girls but they will at least be cute ones with anime proportions so your adhd brain wont feel as bored.

[Anonymous No.7182647]

>>7182344
take the pewdiepie route.

[Anonymous No.7182649]

>>7182642
These face scar noses you do are not doing it for me.

[Anonymous No.7182652]

>>7182649
every person who saw my drawings said the exact same thing, but i like these scars so much. i will never stop

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7182662]

>>7182420
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.7182666]

how do i stop drawing with my wrists/elbows all the time?
i use kinda small sketchpads propped up on my knees usually so that may be contributing, but even at my desk it just feels weird and the lines don't come out right when i try to do shoulder sweeps

[Anonymous No.7182667]

>>7182652
don't totally listen to the crabanon, but do change it up.
if you play with the curve an positioning of it you can give that line the depth it needs to actually look like a stylized nose (or scar/dent crossing a nose, whichever you're going for), without losing that line shape
don't rely on "eventually there will be render behind it for depth," make it look good in the linework

[Anonymous No.7182668]

>>7182652
also do some proper nose studies trying to stay truer to form, figure out the volumetric shapes that you can compose a nose with
that'll give you the context you need to then imply those shapes with your little chevron

[Anonymous No.7182669]

>>7182381
To the things this anon recommended >>7182463
wich I think it is too advanced yet.. I would start with very simple things like the shoulder in front of her face, same with the hair. The shoulder should be in front of her chin (in this case). I see what you're doing, you want the face and hair to be the visible thing, but it is self defeating to bent reality like that. Don't worry, the viewer's brain knows what's behind, sometimes our brain even construct a beautiful thing that it isn't there, so don't worry, let the viewer brain do the heavy lifting, you don't have to draw absolutely everything, be pragmatic. And second you should use the lines of the dress not just to "represent a dress floating in the air" but you can build a whole figure with those simple lines. Don't be afraid to build her figure first, and then add some FEW wrinkles here and there, preferably in the breaking lines, in the bends of the shape. That's enough to tell the eye that that's a fabric material on top of a skin surface.
About the rest, I wasn't going to do any coloring/render, because I wanted you to see the lines, you should focus on the linework. BUT, I saw that you were using a very dark skin color and that's hard to work with, so I tried to do a simple render system to tackle that skin color, I hope it helps. It's just a simple round soft brush (at low opacity in the color layer), just some little glows here and there with three warm colors does the trick. I didn't went too far, because, again I think you have enough work already improving the basic construction lines and some logic composition elements. Keep up the good work anon.

[Anonymous No.7182670]

>>7182647
Which is what?

[Anonymous No.7182679]

>>7182670
Trying to emulate pieces or elements of a pieces you like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLEudGbxQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDtQTTAogk

[Anonymous No.7182680]

>>7182670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLEudGbxQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDtQTTAogk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWi1pCR3peg

[Anonymous No.7182683]

>>7182670
This is good too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWi1pCR3peg

[Anonymous No.7182684]

>>7182679
And can he actually draw now?

[Anonymous No.7182686]

>>7182666
>sketchpad on knees
Find a position closer to your arm and chest where you can move around. Some people do a floating chicken wing when leaning over a desk.
>lines don't come out right
Line exercises as warmup, forearm fixed, let your elbow float. Don't worry about an specific position, people hold pencils in a myriad ways4gpj.

[Anonymous No.7182688]

I want to star drawing today, and then do it every day after this one until i die and hopefully get better.

Should i do it? Genuine question

[Anonymous No.7182702]

>>7182688
What honest to god reason would there be not to?

[Anonymous No.7182710]

>>7182684
Better than no draw.

[Anonymous No.7182714]

>>7182688
No

[Anonymous No.7182720]

>>7182688
surely this is some automated ai engagement bait.

[Anonymous No.7182724]

>>7182547
also what software do you use?

[Anonymous No.7182761]

>>7182702
It's hard work and i'm really bad at it for now.
>>7182714
Ok..
>>7182720
No

[Anonymous No.7182781]

how do I even begin please.
I downloaded some coloso course and I feel like I'm only getting worse.

[Anonymous No.7182784]

>>7182761
I'm aware this is bait, but I'll play along.
Your question was "Should I do it", not "Could I do it". And since you want to draw every day, I ask again: What reason would there be not to? It cannot be anything that makes its hard, or basically impossible, as you don't want to know whether you could. The only thing that would be a reason against is if it is somehow detrimental to you, which given that you are here, I doubt it could in any way make your life worth even less than it is.

[Anonymous No.7182788]

>>7182781
Begin with fundamentals чёpт

[Anonymous No.7182795]

>>7182788
But where? Loomis? The sticky? The /asg/ resource list?? I get so overwhelmed because there is 100 things happening at the same time..

[Anonymous No.7182797]

>>7182788
you're the only чёpт here, пeдик

[Anonymous No.7182798]

>>7182781
True beginners can do sight-size. You will make your own grid, cross, lines and learn how to measure from them.
For gesture and construction, you have to draw those boxes and ellipses. You will use those for any tutorial around.

[Anonymous No.7182800]

>>7182795
Take a breath. Calm down a bit. If you feel overwhelmed. Try this first. It helped me a lot!
https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU?feature=shared
Later you can test some books for fundamentals depending on your objective. Just make sure you'll maintain your arms moving and you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.7182802]

making a mecha comic
how are these designs?
any tips for designing more robots?

[Anonymous No.7182808]

>>7182428
give me your blog

[Anonymous No.7182812]

>>7182784
It's just the usual bullshit of
>Havent done it before
>Bad results discourage me
>Need to make 1000 bad things before i can do 1 good one.
Eh. I'll just get to it.
Do i draw machines or do i do master copies?
I'd do the cubes but the drawabox method is retardedly esoteric and convoluted

[Anonymous No.7182816]

I tried to come up with Stalenhag-esque background, but I feel the result is not too great

[Anonymous No.7182817]

How do I muster up to courage to learn again? I got extreme embarrassment from my parents finding my work and now I've lost the desire.

[Anonymous No.7182818]

>>7182812
>Do i draw machines or do i do master copies?
Both. If possible, draw a machine and find someone else drawing of that same machine.
Draw both. Observe.

[Anonymous No.7182819]

>>7182817
pyw so we can laugh at you too

[Anonymous No.7182821]

>>7182808
@e1ainma on twitter
but I mostly draw random shit so there's no reason to follow

[Anonymous No.7182828]

>>7182802
Very bland costumes. The design is literally just kneepads and shoulderpads?
Teriminal sameface and samey haircuts on top of that. Characters are literally indistinguishable.
Imagine being someone, who randomly stumbled upon a picture of your character. Does it spark any interest whatsoever?
Why does rival character looks like a kid that just dropped their ice cream?
"Twins with mirrored haircuts" #92185
"Robot with a camera for head" #521014. Literally skibidi toilet tier design.

[Anonymous No.7182829]

>>7182686
will try these things, ty!

[Anonymous No.7182835]

>>7182402
Such a scalding review and brutal honesty! Fortunately it is from just the artist with the skill i was looking for. Bless you friend, this was just the thing i needed.
Ill take a squinch of pride that i drew this from imagination. Lol Do you have any artists you would recomend?

[Anonymous No.7182842]

>>7182798
I'm a complete /beg/ not sure if I'm ready for gesture and construction yet. Maybe I can draw some circles? I saw that at loomis but anons always mention how I shouldn't do that because it's a perma /beg/ trap.
>>7182800
Thank you... will try again later on with that vid in mind. this place is nice but it sure can be massively overwhelming with information

[Anonymous No.7182844]

>>7182816
I think you're getting pretty close to the vibe because that's exactly what I thought of before I even read the post
Only thing I can think of in terms of composition would be to have more of the fields behind visible as they fade into the fog (probably put horizon a bit higher) and to make the car/humans/normal man made objects smaller in comparison to the weird/scifi stuff

[Anonymous No.7182849]

>>7182828
>Very bland costumes. The design is literally just kneepads and shoulderpads?
how would you recommend I improve them? it's meant to be a military uniform in a semi-dystopian setting, not sure how to make it more visually interesting while maintaining that vibe.
>Teriminal sameface and samey haircuts on top of that. Characters are literally indistinguishable.
some aren't as bad as others, I'll work on that I guess.
>Why does rival character looks like a kid that just dropped their ice cream?
idk I just drew him like that here
>"Twins with mirrored haircuts" #92185
this trope is extremely based and I refuse to believe it's not
>"Robot with a camera for head" #521014. Literally skibidi toilet tier design.
any suggestions? I'm planning on having all the robots look different so one kind of generic design isn't the worst thing ever.

[Anonymous No.7182860]

>>7182821
dont ever say faggot shit like that again

[Anonymous No.7182870]

>>7182819
I've posted this image way too much.
They didn't think it was bad BTW, but I'm very easily embarrassed and my first action is usually "Quit and never try again"

[Anonymous No.7182874]

>>7182849
Anon... Nothing in that design says "military" or "dystopia". It's just nothing.
If you are planning on making characters wear the same military uniform, add insignias, add patches, some variations between units, anything that points to difference in ranks. Soldiers don't wear literally the exact same thing.
Also actually put effort into drawing varied faces. It honestly looks like you can draw, but you are just lazy and think that it's "good enough". Look into experimenting with different body types.
Take a look at Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Almost all characters are wearing just simple military uniforms, but there are gorillion variations of uniforms.
Or Attack on Titan - all characters wear the same exact uniform, but all have different body types, heights and faces and are easily distinguishable.

[Anonymous No.7182877]

>>7182860

[Anonymous No.7182879]

>>7182474
>It's not always a sexist thing.
But it definitely a lot of the time is and that bothers me enough to be sus of any guy who's into it
So you automatically think people who want to be dominant in bed are bad people? that's like 90% of men

[Anonymous No.7182881]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.7182903]

>>7182818
Can i use JoJo post p7 stands as a machine wince the author made them look much more android-esq?

[Anonymous No.7182906]

>>7182903
Do it! Also, try to transform other real life machines into Jojo stands yourself to absorb the knowledge.

[Anonymous No.7182915]

Check it out. I drew a bunch of circles and ellipses and shit. I'm good at drawing now, right?

[Anonymous No.7182922]

>>7182915
peak schizocore

[Anonymous No.7182927]

>>7182463
woah based, an invoker chad. I really dig your comic vibe.
Any critique for a fellow dotard?

[Anonymous No.7182928]

>>7182922
>warmups = schizo

[Anonymous No.7182944]

>>7182874
is something like this better?
I tried to keep the same idea but add lore relevant embellishments without making it too busy.

[Anonymous No.7182946]

>>7182944

[Anonymous No.7182947]

>>7182944
You need fundies before you start desining
.if you tried to put fine details on smth like this it would look messy.
Rn it's just a jumpsuit with shoulder pads. No feel or anything like that. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.7182950]

>>7182611
are you left handed?

[Anonymous No.7182954]

>>7182611
That's just Dark Pink Boy

[Anonymous No.7182957]

>>7182944
Look at actual military uniforms and get inspo from them.
To be frank though no uniform will look good on a stiff, gestureless figure made out of straight lines

[Anonymous No.7182960]

>>7182946
>>7182947
the fuck else do you want me to do?
it's supposed to be a nondescript jumpsuit because it's what they wear when they're piloting their giant robots which are the things that are actually supposed to look interesting.

[Anonymous No.7182966]

>>7182960
>the fuck else do you want me to do?
it's over

[Anonymous No.7182968]

Drew my hand. The thumb's fucked up. What else could I do better?

[Anonymous No.7182969]

>>7182966
I DON'T WANT TO DRAW FANCY COSTUMES I WANT TO DRAW GIANT ROBOTS GODDAMN IT
TELL ME HOW TO DRAW GIANT ROBOTS

[Anonymous No.7182971]

>>7182969
Google what inspired Gurenn Lagan/Eva/whatever is the bible of mecha and research that
It's like trying to do jojo designs without being fucking autistic about italian fashion

[Anonymous No.7182972]

I have no idea how to draw the mouth and lips in perspective, anyone able to give some pointers?

Also excuse the chia-pet hair.

>>7182928
Yes

>>7182960
Are you actually not able to see the difference between that design and yours? This design adds a lot of interest with some subtle detailing, while yours is just flat. I'm just a 2 month on and off beg, so there might be something else I'm missing, but that shits so obvious.

[Anonymous No.7182989]

>>7182972
>>7182957
>Are you actually not able to see the difference between that design and yours?
no, I'm completely aware that that one is a professional, finished work with a much better sense of design than I have and mine is a rough sketch made by an amateur. my point was just that I was trying to convey a similar type of look.
>This design adds a lot of interest with some subtle detailing, while yours is just flat.
>To be frank though no uniform will look good on a stiff, gestureless figure made out of straight lines
it's flat because I intentionally drew it without any perspective, shading or folds because I was just trying to get across the essential features. obviously when I draw the actual comic the characters aren't just going to be unshaded stiffly A-posing, it's a fucking design sketch. it's not finished and I'm actively iterating on it but all anyone here seems to be able to say is
>ur bad lol

[Anonymous No.7182997]

So defensive about prebeg-tier work

[Anonymous No.7183005]

>>7182989
Read keys to drawing, specifically the stuff bout how to self-critique
Saying that stuff is better because a professional made it doesnt tell you how to improve yours

[Anonymous No.7183007]

>>7182989
>it's flat because I intentionally drew it without any perspective, shading or folds
I wasn't talking about that, though maybe I that's my ESL shining through. Your design has the shoulder pads, something on the chest, and boots. Between the chest and the boots there's absolutely nothing. Just a giant void. Obviously don't just jam it full of detail, but give the viewer something, anything.
The other one has the straps going down the body as well as knee pads and a belt along the waist. It keeps the area from feeling boring while also not being noisy.
Don't get me wrong, I probably couldn't do it better, but I hope noticing these things is a sign that I will at some point.
>I intentionally drew it without ... folds
Looking at>>7182944, that's just wrong. They are kept to a minimum, but your style itself is minimal so I feel these count as folds.
>ur bad lol
We're in a /beg/ thread, of course we all suck

[Anonymous No.7183023]

Viper

[Anonymous No.7183027]

>>7183007
picrel is still unfinished but it's closer to the level of detail I'd have in the final version.
I'm not really sure what I could add to make the leg area more visually interesting and personally I don't feel like it needs to be, the head and chest area are typically where you want the reader to be looking anyway.
idk maybe something like a seam going down the side to help indicate what angle you're looking at it from like the shoulder pads do? I feel like adding a belt would give it a completely different vibe than what I'm going for.

[Anonymous No.7183033]

>>7183027
Obviously the shading helps, but the kneepads are also much better I feel, given the fact I actually didn't even notice them before.
>idk maybe something like a seam going down the side
Try it out and see if it helps. And if you are still not convinced you can just keep doing your way.

[Anonymous No.7183041]

Chunners

[Anonymous No.7183046]

>>7183033
pretty good, might keep it
anyway, I have been awake for 20 hours, good night.

[Anonymous No.7183052]

What brush can I use to get these lines in krita?

[Anonymous No.7183068]

>>7183052
brush do not make lines, hand do
any non transparent - basic-size, g-pen and whataver

[Anonymous No.7183081]

>>7183068
whats a g pen

[Anonymous No.7183088]

>>7183081
gel pen

[Anonymous No.7183089]

>>7183081
it's a pen for inking manga in Japan

[Anonymous No.7183097]

>focus too hard
>eyes hurt
does this get easier? i wanna draw more

[Anonymous No.7183098]

trying to work on my cel shading, did a layer of grey on the sweater before blending the red back into it, am I on the right track with the light source?

[Anonymous No.7183113]

Sup begosis, i am permabeg,

>>7183041
stiff, needs more gesture + drapery studies
>>7183023
cute thot, bad value range
>>7182972
all figure books are all about just that. loomis for example
>>7182881
>>7182781
keys to drawing
>>7182816
i kneel, next time add something to the horizon: mountains, clouds, forests, cityscapes... not even Holland is this level of flat
>>7182802
Keith Thompson 50 Robots to Draw
>>7182666
using shoulder only makes sense with LARGE and or tilted canvas. who told you that you MUST use ONLY shoulder and why did you believe them? any try out overhand grip, it is almost impossible to draw with that without utilizing shoulder
>>7182491
some drawers literally make outlines of (important) objects thicker than the object itself. so like line thickness of 60. it was just a suggestion
>>7182486
the bellies and chests have form, thats all what matters
>>7182415
perspective made easy (book)
>>7182276
booba
>>7181684
your lineart is good enough, also you have obviously painter genes, so feel free to ditch lines altogether and go full painter chad mode. most of your pieces have bad value range
>>7183098
pro beg tip: keep flat colors (bright red) on 1 layer, then do shading on 2nd layer set to multiply / overlay, where you draw your gray

[Anonymous No.7183115]

>>7183113
>then do shading on 2nd layer set to multiply / overlay, where you draw your gray
I have the flats and greys on separate layers yeah, then I do a multiply layer and blend the grey with the more saturated colors

[Anonymous No.7183118]

>>7183113
That feel when draw worse than Pawell.

[Anonymous No.7183138]

>>7183052
That fucking hand

[Anonymous No.7183145]

im going to draw my women 12 heads tall and i dont care what you people say anymore!!!!

[Anonymous No.7183156]

how important is a good artist handle for networking and popularity? I've had a couple of requests to do commissions so I want to change my artist name to something more marketable, but it feels like nothing I do sounds right...should I even be worrying about the name at all?

[Anonymous No.7183172]

[Anonymous No.7183191]

>>7182969
the problem with this approach is that no matter how cool your giant robots look, no one is going to care about them unless they also care about the little pilot in their little jump suit with their little life. which means building expressive bodies to shape that boring jumpsuit around and knowing where on the body to put the details that make it a little less boring
also, mecha (well, most of them) are kind of just big slow moving distorted human figures, so a lot of the same skills transfer in making your robots cooler

[Anonymous No.7183202]

>>7182293
Same anon, here. Directing the reply to this anon. >>7182305

I have been trying to readjust the colors of the layers while readjusting my correction layers. I also realized one of my layers (The one with the green tint) was supposed to be set to add. The green is supposed to be the lighting, the red is supposed to be the shading, and blue is the overall hue. I am trying to play around with layer settings and see what I can get before I work on my current commission list.

I do have a question. Actually, a couple:

What paint program do you use? I use clip studio paint.

What layer settings do you use for your shading (if any)?

Thank you in advanced.

[Anonymous No.7183209]

Anything to improve before continuing??

[Anonymous No.7183228]

I haven't been posting these 2min figures but I am still doing them.
I thought it'd be fun to see if they improve but they haven't changed a whole lot lol. I feel like they're helping me immensely outside of doing them though, so I'm gonna keep at it.

[Anonymous No.7183229]

>>7183052
AHHH THIS IS TRIGGERING ME SO MUCH
Didn't he fuck this up completely? I'm trying to copy it and I can't because the hands are pissing me off

[Anonymous No.7183238]

>>7183202
Whatever it is you do, just continue doing it, anything is fine.
I just tried to make the ball more round.

[Anonymous No.7183246]

>>7183238
>>7183238
Thanks.

I think what I should have told you about is the ball itself. I call it a shading sampler. It a practice/experimental piece where I try different shading techniques with various color theory on a gray ball. for the one I asked for feedback on has the goal of achieving shading based on triatic colors. Its based on my previous method of shading that I recorded.

My apologies.

[Anonymous No.7183276]

facial feature practice, focused on the nose mostly

[Anonymous No.7183323]

>>7182989
You got several advice: what shows to use for reference; to reference real army uniforms; to do more with character body shapes; to draw distinct faces;
>but all anyone here seems to be able to say is
>>ur bad lol
If this is your takeaway from the conversation, then unfortunately it's truly over for you.
NGMI.

[Anonymous No.7183332]

>>7183229
what do you think is wrong? it looks fine

[Anonymous No.7183338]

>>7183332
nta and cant draw but I belive it need to be something more like this. But not a big deal.

[Anonymous No.7183340]

>>7183332
Twist your hand 180 degrees without moving your upper arm

[Anonymous No.7183346]

>>7183338
they both look good
>>7183340
that is possible because of the radius and ulna, pic from marc brunet

[Anonymous No.7183357]

>>7183346
except that you twisted the original by 45 degrees, the elbow joint is perpendicular to the camera in the original, you can see this because the bicep is dead on facing the camera

[Anonymous No.7183389]

>>7182487
Hey anon, before the thread dies, I did some pieces for one short story. It may not go any further than this few images, it depends on how motivated I am to do the whole thing. The guys in a bar see a disabled hottie "looking for a date" maybe? , but it takes a real chad to go ask her and score.
I may have to keep developing this project on the /sex/ general, if I keep doing it. It was fun to make so far.

[Anonymous No.7183391]

[Anonymous No.7183404]

>>7183357
fair enough

[Anonymous No.7183409]

is the perspective alright?

[Anonymous No.7183438]

>>7183246
>abusing layer effects this much for a simple sphere
fucking lol

[Anonymous No.7183443]

>>7183346
try and hold broom like that
with your palm facing out and your thumb at the bottom
see what happens

[Anonymous No.7183449]

>>7183438
You retarded? It's a demonstration

[Anonymous No.7183491]

>>7183209
Fixed symmetry a bit and collar.
How about now??

[Anonymous No.7183504]

>>7183491
You can't fix perfection.

[Anonymous No.7183505]

>>7183491
I mean what the fuck is that head.

[Anonymous No.7183513]

I've been stagnating for years, how do I start improving again?

[Anonymous No.7183514]

>>7183513
pyw

[Anonymous No.7183516]

>>7183491
its fine but arms are worst :<

[Anonymous No.7183517]

>>7183513
Do the things you avoid.

[Anonymous No.7183531]

>>7182562
steve huston for life

>>7182724
>>7182594
I'm using his Constructive Figure Drawing course, plus his Patreon videos as supplementary material. I don't have a direct link, but you can probably find the course in the video course thread. I use Photoshop along with this brush pack: https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/doYNb/lane-s-photoshop-master-pack.. The pic shows the two brushes I used from the pack.

[Anonymous No.7183532]

Please

[Anonymous No.7183548]

>>7183052
so i wonder if you can feasibly get this look using an "alla prima" approach. I know for a fact murata does a sketch>ink process but that just seems so difficult, how do you know that what youre sketching will actually end up looking good? I actually noticed Murata's lineart actually has a lot of inperfect doubled/hairy/wobbly lines but I don't see at what point the viewer stops noticing them

[Anonymous No.7183552]

>>7183548
Arm was sketchy but grip was good. you went lame way.

[Anonymous No.7183554]

>>7183552
That has to be hypermobility or something

[Anonymous No.7183555]

>>7183554
reality is unrealistic :]

[Anonymous No.7183557]

>>7183555
That's why we don't draw reality

[Anonymous No.7183562]

>>7181561
Callin it here. Colouring can be fun but I need to learn how to do it properly.

Anything I should keep in mind going forward with other pieces?

[Anonymous No.7183596]

>>7183531
>Constructive Figure Drawing
The one on NMA? https://www.nma.art/v3/course-catalog/courses/1344652/

[Anonymous No.7183602]

>>7183596
yes

[Anonymous No.7183647]

What do you guys think about this. I feel like there's too much going on. Anything you would fix?

>>7181528
I like your style G.

[Anonymous No.7183681]

>>7183679
>>7183679
>>7183679
>>7183679

[Anonymous No.7183995]

>>7182287
damn I fucking hate women, I probably should start getting into amputee

[Anonymous No.7184626]

Making a chibi gerudo link keychain for etsy but I can't for the life of my figure out what the fuck is wrong with that hand

I AM DROWNING PLEASE SAVE ME IM NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.7185674]

>>7184626
I think the wrist just needs to be more defined