/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners General Anonymous

[Anonymous No.7179604]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

Previous thread >>7177542

[Anonymous No.7179606]

>french kisses thread
You have my blessing.

[Anonymous No.7179608]

i dont feel like finishing this, digital inking feels like a chore.

[Anonymous No.7179610]

>>7179608
Good, i dont even want to imagine it finished

[Anonymous No.7179611]

>>7179052
Need help with the face and background

[Anonymous No.7179612]

blackpill me on hampton

[Anonymous No.7179613]

trying the squigglies for a whole body

[Anonymous No.7179616]

>>7179608
I think there's something off with the small guy's right leg

[Anonymous No.7179618]

>>7179616
yea probably, im not entirely sure if a knee could fit in between that space. the foot is a wip though if thats what you meant.

[Anonymous No.7179619]

Is drawing turds good practice for form?

[Anonymous No.7179620]

Satisfied enough with this. Need to move onto some newer drawings. Made a few adjustments,

[Anonymous No.7179622]

>>7179608
You ever wonder when exactly it's gone wrong?
Your life, I mean.

[Anonymous No.7179625]

>>7179612
anything anyone tells you about Hampton, whether positive or negative, will never be knowledge for you unless you properly try to implement his teachings into your own studies. beyond that, any belief you have about him which stems from what you heard from another person is just an assumption.

[Anonymous No.7179628]

>>7179619
not only is it, it's the best way to get good. all of the old masters spent at least 10 years drawing literal shit. so if you're not following suite, you're actually retarded and are ngmi.

[Anonymous No.7179629]

>>7179610
> i dont even want to imagine it finished
that's why I stopped working on it.

[Anonymous No.7179632]

>>7179629
if what you draw is determined by other people, then listen to me right now: stop drawing gay shit in general

[Anonymous No.7179635]

>>7179632
i think you misread, i dont want to finish it because it sucks and im over it and i also hate digital workflow.

[Anonymous No.7179636]

>>7179635
its funny that posting gay stuff makes the board seethe so hard though

[Anonymous No.7179637]

>>7179613
You're starting to understand the direction in which the limbs are going like with her left leg, but you're ignoring some of the changes in shape and perspective, like with her right leg. I know I traced it, so its kind of cheating, but note how things change in diameter.

[Anonymous No.7179640]

>>7179580
Someone told me her boobs are too soggy, should i make them bigger or are they not slightly realistic at all?

[Anonymous No.7179641]

>>7179636
>I don't even want to imagine it finished
Yeah man he was seething SO HARD, you really got him MALDING!!!1!1111

[Anonymous No.7179642]

>>7179635
>i think you misread
I did not, you simply lack clarity of speech

[Anonymous No.7179643]

>>7179637
this is kind of a better way to see the cylinders in perspective.

[Anonymous No.7179645]

>>7179636
I like gay stuff, i dont like weird degenerate stuff.

That anon is a weird degenerate drawing weird degenerate stuff

[Anonymous No.7179646]

>>7179637

[Anonymous No.7179649]

>>7179646
why did you move her spine and ass.

[Anonymous No.7179653]

>>7179640
Soggy?

[Anonymous No.7179654]

Is this looking correct?

[Anonymous No.7179656]

>>7179654
dont think a brain would fit into that.

[Anonymous No.7179658]

>>7179654
Not at all, you flattened the form on both sides somehow.

Just copy the plates don't try to improvise yet.

[Anonymous No.7179659]

>>7179656
mine would

[Anonymous No.7179660]

>>7179659
I belive you

[Anonymous No.7179661]

>>7179660
belive is intransitive, anon: you don't belive someone/something, you simply belive

[Anonymous No.7179662]

>>7179661
God almighty, shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.7179663]

>>7179646
Nice. Has better shape and depth than the first drawing I saw from you in the previous thread. You're getting it.

Pic related was kind of bothering me though.

[Anonymous No.7179667]

>>7179649
>>7179663
I move the ass and spine to the right and made the arms wider

[Anonymous No.7179669]

>>7179653
Like, too dropped

[Anonymous No.7179670]

Any tips on this rendering?

[Anonymous No.7179672]

>>7179670
What rendering?

[Anonymous No.7179673]

>>7179670
what rendering

[Anonymous No.7179674]

>>7179670
What rendering?

[Anonymous No.7179676]

>>7179669
Don't think so.

[Anonymous No.7179677]

[Anonymous No.7179678]

>>7179670
What rendering.

[Anonymous No.7179679]

>>7179620
Nice. I hope in the next one you add a trapezius unless its a stylistic choice with how loose everything is.

[Anonymous No.7179680]

Starting to feel better about my head structure and feature placement

[Anonymous No.7179682]

>>7179676
I trust you anon

[Anonymous No.7179683]

does digital art ever stop sucking, is there a point where you start to love it? I really want to get into drawing on a tablet, and it has clear benefits, but my experience drawing on my wacom is that its nowhere near as fun as drawing traditionally.

Mirror tool is nice though, and using a hand mirror just isn't as good.

[Anonymous No.7179684]

>>7179670
where rendering

[Anonymous No.7179685]

>>7179683
Just draw trad and render your drawing digitally

[Anonymous No.7179686]

>>7179677
Looks really good, but I think you've dropped something.

[Anonymous No.7179687]

>>7179683
>but my experience drawing on my wacom is that its nowhere near as fun as drawing traditionally.
Then draw traditionally?
>Does coke ever get better I much prefer pepsi

[Anonymous No.7179689]

>>7179685
>Just draw trad and render your drawing digitally
thats what ive been trying, even rendering/inking sucks. much rather use a ink brush + copics/watercolor

but if i ever want to do animation i need to get into tablet drawing.

[Anonymous No.7179688]

>>7179686
Its animu, you wouldnt get it sighhhh

[Anonymous No.7179690]

>>7179680
Watch this for good measure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

[Anonymous No.7179691]

>>7179687
feel gimped on certain workflows and dont want to be, there are many advantages to digital i want but i can't get over the 'it sucks' part. curious if anyone else works both and was able to overcome not liking it initially.

[Anonymous No.7179692]

>>7179677
You have hatching that reminds me of planetary romance pinups

[Anonymous No.7179694]

Been a while since I drew a char, I need help with the anatomy and proportions. Was scaling it for 8-heads but I fucked it up.

[Anonymous No.7179695]

>>7179658
>Just copy the plates don't try to improvise yet.
What do you mean? This is just a Loomis head which I referenced in FWAP.

[Anonymous No.7179697]

>>7179691
Learn the shortcuts for the shit that keeps breaking your flow having to look for.

[Anonymous No.7179698]

>>7179694
That head is waaaaaay too small.

[Anonymous No.7179700]

>>7179691
No. You're not gonna magically start enjoying something that "sucks".
I've never liked brussel sprouts and the health advantages it has won't make me enjoy eating it.

[Anonymous No.7179701]

>>7179608
All the gaywads whining about seeing gay shit are fucking pussies. Acting like you've never seen buttsex on the internet because you're insecure about how much of a faggot you actually are is pathetic.

The only things that genuinely deserve crit are the small guy's legs, big guy's face and head, and your line weight is all over the place. Other than that you have pretty good anatomy, and godlike taste for drawing size difference. Don't ever let these nodraw faggots neg you. Keep doing God's work filling the internet with porn whether it's straight or gay.

[Anonymous No.7179703]

>>7179701

[Anonymous No.7179706]

>>7179701
>>7179703
arachnophobe, huh?

[Anonymous No.7179707]

Digital painting is hard

[Anonymous No.7179708]

How do I improve this

[Anonymous No.7179710]

>>7179703
>Oh ewww you want to fuck spiders?
>I would never fuck spiders
>I could never think about fucking spiders
>That's just so gross ewwww
>Do you actually like fucking spiders
>I just couldn't ever fuck spiders
>I just want to reiterate, I do not fuck spiders
>HEY EVERYONE, I DON'T FUCK SPIDERS
>JUST MAKING SURE YOU HEARD, I DO NOT FUCK SPIDERS

[Anonymous No.7179711]

>>7179708
It's really difficult to give advice for a drawing that is literally all wrong. Do ktd and come back.

[Anonymous No.7179712]

>>7179710
>retard tier cope
faggot

[Anonymous No.7179713]

>>7179691
Sometimes I do trad stuff for a week or two and I try doing at least half of Inktober, I got used to digital when I realised the results were terrible either way

[Anonymous No.7179714]

>>7179701
thanks man. appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.7179716]

>>7179708
Line quality is too chicken scratchy and I don't think you took your time in anything. Everything seems rushed.
Head shape is weird.
Expression is not cute.
Her boobs should start lower and their shape is too round, boobs are not balloons.
Arm is not correctly attached to torso.

Do some copies of anime art you like. Pay attention to those points and then try to craft your own while looking at references. The information of what you think is right in your brain is actually wrong, and you need to study the right info to learn it.

[Anonymous No.7179717]

>>7179713
nice watercolor and thanks for your advice.

[Anonymous No.7179718]

>>7179712
You are quite literally the one coping with being a faggot by trying to tell everyone you're not a faggot. Maybe try Grindr instead.

[Anonymous No.7179719]

Finished this. Quite happy with how it turned out.
Any thoughts or criticisms would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.7179722]

>>7179719
how does the bunny suit stay up

[Anonymous No.7179723]

>>7179718
>I like coke
Heh, I got this guy figured out, he'd do anything for pepsi
You are brain damaged, anon.

[Anonymous No.7179724]

gay = bad

[Anonymous No.7179725]

>>7179723
You're not saying you like coke though. You're declaring, proclaiming, swearing up and down that you don't like pepsi. Begging everyone to believe you that you HATE pepsi. Meanwhile no one in the fucking room asked.

[Anonymous No.7179726]

>>7179725
>You're declaring, proclaiming, swearing up and down that you don't like pepsi. Begging everyone to believe you that you HATE pepsi.
where?

[Anonymous No.7179727]

>>7179719
Feels like the artstyle is all over the place, maybe its just me

Fine drawing but you are a coombrain

[Anonymous No.7179728]

>>7179725
>>7179726
Also I'm one of 3 or 4 anons that bothered to reply to your delusional rambling

[Anonymous No.7179729]

>>7179722
Uhhh glue? Works for carnival dancers lmao

[Anonymous No.7179730]

>>7179725
>>7179726
Can you two faggots shut the fuck up and pyw?

[Anonymous No.7179731]

>>7179726
Preferably somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.7179732]

>>7179729
oh, so just like thicker pizza sauce using glue

[Anonymous No.7179735]

>>7179730
They will never post work because they dont draw

[Anonymous No.7179736]

>>7179719
Added to the collection.

[Anonymous No.7179742]

Time to lineart, I dread this moment

[Anonymous No.7179743]

>>7179611
I like this, good job

[Anonymous No.7179744]

whats the biggest problem with this eye

[Anonymous No.7179749]

Kinda gave up. But “finished” for now. Anyone have any links on how to render skin?

[Anonymous No.7179750]

>>7179749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_E1ARR_AAg

[Anonymous No.7179751]

>>7179749
Dang i forgot to resize it and I don’t see the delete option :\ My apologies.

[Anonymous No.7179752]

>>7179749
Use red, not black

[Anonymous No.7179753]

>>7179750
Thank you kindly

[Anonymous No.7179756]

>>7179744
What's the biggest problem with this singular eye lash?

[Anonymous No.7179757]

>>7179756
are you comparing an entire eye to a line?

[Anonymous No.7179759]

Any guides/resources on character design / conceprt art? Specifically what type of character build, clothing, features etc. align with what archetype and so on.

[Anonymous No.7179760]

>>7179672
>>7179673
>>7179674
>>7179678
>>7179684

Exactly

[Anonymous No.7179780]

>>7179727
>Feels like the artstyle is all over the place, maybe its just me
No you are completely correct. My current style is derived from the workflows of several artists, mishmashed and being forced to work together. It's still a work in progress
>Fine drawing but you are a coombrain
Thanks. I don't wanna draw just coom I wanna draw cute and cool too. I feel that as long as there is balance it's okay to draw coom once in a while. I admit though, I really had fun shading her exaggerated figure.

>>7179736
idk what collection you mean but thanks!

[Anonymous No.7179782]

[Anonymous No.7179784]

[Anonymous No.7179787]

>>7179670
>>7179760
were you working from a ref or from imagination? if the former, post it so we can better critique your painting. if the latter, and this applies to your studies in general, I would simply say work more on rendering basic forms (spheres, cubes, cylinders, triangles, etc). you can then apply that knowledge to human faces specifically and then anthropomorphized cat heads, dog heads, etc.
>>7179782
nice. is that red chalk?

[Anonymous No.7179790]

>>7179787
looks like oil pastel to me

[Anonymous No.7179811]

>>7179744
it unconnected and not in proportion to anything

[Anonymous No.7179813]

Power went out, so I drew outside with my cat

[Anonymous No.7179818]

>>7179787
it's a conte crayon

[Anonymous No.7179819]

>>7179813
cute

[Anonymous No.7179825]

>>7179790
not a bad guess
>>7179818
I see, thanks

[Anonymous No.7179826]

WIP, any critique or advice appreciated!

[Anonymous No.7179927]

this turned out surprisingly well imo (except for hand and feet ofc).
I think it's because clothes are easier to draw than a body and there's not much perspective needed in my drawing

[Anonymous No.7179946]

Cute or cringe, and how do I make it better?

[Anonymous No.7179949]

>>7179946
>cute or cringe
I do not mean to be rude, but why ask? presumably if you were to ask enough people here you would get some saying it's cute and some that it's cringe. if most said it's cringe would you quit making stuff in that style, even if you yourself liked it? I would assume not, but who knows.

[Anonymous No.7179952]

>>7179604
Some thumbnails I've made, any tips to make them look more professional/chinese concept art, instead of some newgrounds slop?

[Anonymous No.7179970]

>>7179946
The eyes bug me, probably her face topology is off

[Anonymous No.7179980]

Do you guys think it's okay to study AI works? Especially when it comes to shading?

[Anonymous No.7179982]

>>7179980
Raphael, Michelangelo, Rubens, Rembrandt, Holbein, Sargent, take your pick: they all studied AI. if you wanna become a master, you do as the masters did.

[Anonymous No.7179983]

>>7179980
You might as well study the actual art the AI uses to replicate from.

[Anonymous No.7179984]

>>7179980
I wouldn't use ai anatomy for study at least, shading maybe

[Anonymous No.7179990]

>>7179982
I'm being serious... I'm sorry for that question but quite curious.
>>7179983
Sadly, sometimes you can't tell which arists they are pulling from.
>>7179984
Maybe reading some proper shading books might do the trick?

[Anonymous No.7179992]

>>7179946
Rllyeed some feedback on the forms of this Wip

[Anonymous No.7179994]

>draw sketch, feels pretty confident
>draw lineart, it all falls apart
Every single time. I know it's not refined but how do people get past the sketch phase? Like do they redo it until it looks good?

[Anonymous No.7179998]

>>7179994
Draw bigger (so you have more range) and use different line weights
Get some artists you like as reference and analyze what do they do.

[Anonymous No.7180001]

>>7179998
Will do, thank you

[Anonymous No.7180009]

>>7179994
the lineart isnt bad nigga

[Anonymous No.7180011]

>>7179994

every line needs to be intentional, designed, and planned

[Anonymous No.7180016]

Really need some feedback on the forms of this WIP (yes I just messed up this post 3 times idk)

[Anonymous No.7180027]

>>7179946
Gives a little bit of soul eater vibes. Kinda cute but also small, simple, unimpressive

[Anonymous No.7180033]

>>7180016
look im not sure the speedlines should be like this, why is only his body moving and not the hand? The hand is moving the fastest, did you use a ref?

[Anonymous No.7180052]

>>7179994
better than my wack ass shit

[Anonymous No.7180066]

How many hours per day should you draw if you want to quit mid-high /beg/ stage as fast a possible in less that a year?
Serioous answers only

[Anonymous No.7180072]

>>7180066
Fuck off, Gabe

[Anonymous No.7180074]

>>7180066
stop counting and start getting lost in it.
You live it, breath it, speak it. A painting is like writing a sentence for you.

Stop the seperation of drawing time and normie time. You want to be an artist, stop doing the secret idenity of peter parker and go all in on being Spider-Man.

[Anonymous No.7180079]

>>7180066
One hour everyday for the absolute bare minimum. No, you will never get good at drawing in less than a year, slow your roll and learn discipline lest you discourage yourself and burn out.

[Anonymous No.7180110]

>>7179719
Very cool. I fixed the perspective to make it more dramatic. Since the eye level is way below the character, the head and upper body should be affected by the perspective.

I added a blur effect to the background to emphasize the character's details. Since it's far away and has less light than the focal point, you shouldn't see as many details.

[Anonymous No.7180116]

I HATE being low /int/ high /beg/
Anyways here's me going at it with color pencils.

[Anonymous No.7180122]

>>7180116
Not even close to int keep grinding

[Anonymous No.7180140]

>>7179719
>>7180110
really good stuff anons, would follow blog. Whos the character or is it OC

[Anonymous No.7180142]

>>7179611
I think the face is fine, I'd say the direction of the light is unclear and the values aren't the best

[Anonymous No.7180145]

>>7180116
you don't realize just how high the ceiling between /beg/ and /int/ is
just having years of drawing experience isn't enough

[Anonymous No.7180148]

>>7180142
>he direction of the light is unclear and the values aren't the best
I bellive opposite. It is magicaly great in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.7180151]

I am welcome for any critiques! My concerns is that I like UPA art but how would I differentiate myself from that? I feel like drawing boobs and the bended arms are wonky for me. And I have a feeling it doesn’t look fluid.

[Anonymous No.7180153]

>>7180151
Ugh I don’t know how it got sideways! Lol

[Anonymous No.7180157]

practice with 3d model

[Anonymous No.7180158]

>>7180151
Pinups work better when they are looking at the viewer
That neck is too thing. And the connection to the torso is weird too. If she's leaning forward, there should be some perspective going on here. Pic related for example, show how the neck is connected to the torso and doesn't just ends when the contour of the trapezius muscle starts
The feathers? on her attire look kinda weird. I would almost think they are hands or something. It's just a matter of stylizing them differently.
It almost seems like she has a bulge.

[Anonymous No.7180161]

>>7180151
Pinups work better when they are looking at the viewer
That neck is too thin. And the connection to the torso is weird too. If she's leaning forward, there should be some perspective going on here. Pic related for example, show how the neck is connected to the torso and doesn't just ends when the contour of the trapezius muscle starts
The feathers? on her attire look kinda weird. I would almost think they are hands or something. It's just a matter of stylizing them differently.
It almost seems like she has a bulge.

[Anonymous No.7180163]

>>7180161
Thank you it’s Morrigan from Darkstalkers by the way. Yeah I also thought the feathers looks off too!

[Anonymous No.7180203]

>>7180142
>I think the face is fine
if i had a nickel every time someone said this when I complained about the face in my drawing i would have nickel x all of my drawings

[Anonymous No.7180205]

I fucking LOVE lineart

[Anonymous No.7180209]

Figure from imagination
Please tell me im gonna make it

[Anonymous No.7180211]

i hate hands

[Anonymous No.7180212]

>>7180209
>Please tell me im gonna make it
no one drawing can be used to predict whether someone will make it, although it's not even clear what you mean by "make it"

[Anonymous No.7180213]

>>7180209
It's so fucking over for you if you keep that mindset where's drawing without reference is cool or some shit

[Anonymous No.7180215]

>>7180211
we don't take too kindly to your kind 'round these parts, partner

[Anonymous No.7180216]

>>7180212
I think the consensus on the meaning of "making it" is making money off of it

[Anonymous No.7180217]

>>7180151
Her eyes not looking at the viewer is a good choice. Its coquette, playing coy.
Neck is too thin only in comparison to her very wide shoulders. I like the thin neck, bring the shoulders in a little.
She is leaning forward, her vagina would be buried between her thighs, right now it looks like a bulge.
Her right arm is almost the correct length, but in proportion to her legs it looks long. You're going to have to lengthen her legs a bit more or shorten her arms. Legs need to be longer than her arms.

Overall, you need to pay more mind to proportion.
Of course there are other things you can work on, basic understanding of some anatomy could help, but right now, practice with proportion.

[Anonymous No.7180224]

>>7180215
what

[Anonymous No.7180225]

>>7180216
I've found a good amount of arguing over what it means and how it does or doesn't mean making money off of your art. even if you were right, agreement of a word or phrase by a majority doesn't mean every single person uses it the same way. but if you mean it that way, then my previous post stands. not every good artist who tries to make money succeeds.

[Anonymous No.7180238]

im having a hard time

[Anonymous No.7180240]

>>7180238
Anon that looks awesome. Whatever you do, try not to lose that shape style, you found the erotic appeal already wich is the hardest possible thing. Don't lose it.

[Anonymous No.7180244]

>>7179413
>>7179411
Thanks. Guess I will try to use my meager practice time through the week to hyperfocus in specific tidbits instead of getting spread thin. I envy so fucking much fuckers with supportive families or fancy labour laws.
>>7179478
>other delusional comments of faggots
I love your honesty.
Thanks a lot anon. I have no hope at all I will get better but I will try to start getting back to the fundamentals even if I am deathly scared I will just get nowhere again.
I despise Robertson for being a filthy fucking sellout who is deep into the NFT ai-generated scam and that he doesnt even use all the autistic bullshit he preaches since he just traces over 3d models
>DAB
I hate that mudslime faggot. Made me hate drawing so fucking much back when I started that I dropped drawing and came back to it a year later because his autistic box shit didn't get nowhere and his finished work is fucking grotesque and he scrapped his figure drawing lessons from the program because it was shit.

I have come to understand thanks to far humbler and more relatable artists like Pikat or Tealfag or redblobfag that boxes are the simplest shape you can represent in 3d space and they will help you make the most basic model to build upon the finer details.

[Anonymous No.7180246]

pov: you disrespected a female in front of me (big mistake kid)

[Anonymous No.7180247]

>>7180246
b-but I just gave her flowers...

[Anonymous No.7180248]

>>7180247
whereby you were upholding the patriarchy, chud

[Anonymous No.7180251]

Daily shit drawing.

I dropped the ball really fucking hard these past two days but I am back on the saddle again. This time I just have a shitty and humble flockmod drawing
Mistakes I recognize
>Hair is atrocious, has no sense of weight
>Blocky ass hands
>Torso too long
>No proper gesture at all. Looks like she is stiff as hell.
All in all I am really glad the face came along even if I had to measure and remake it several times and it is still subpar.


So, I am gonna confront Robertson starting tomorrow. I despise the faggot and I made it my life's purpose to maim some arrogant southamerican who kept singing his praises even though he just resorted to drawing over 3d models for anything from backgrounds to figures after autistically copying every single fucking drawing over months. Sure fucking love 30 year old somethings living in mommy's basement drawing insipid anime bitches.
I dont know what I will get out of Robertson other than maybe basic perspective and then shit nobody bothers with anymore but if teallinefag says it worked for him then it can't be too bad.

[Anonymous No.7180252]

>>7180251
Oops wrong file.

[Anonymous No.7180254]

>>7180209
You won't

[Anonymous No.7180255]

>>7180251
>daily shit drawing
stop belittling yourself. at best it's just not productive and at worst it's pathetic and counter-productive. just keep at it and keep trying to push yourself.

[Anonymous No.7180256]

[Anonymous No.7180259]

>>7180255
Its shit, anon. I have no other way to describe it.

[Anonymous No.7180260]

>>7180259
there are multiple ways to describe a given drawing, some in terms of quality, others in terms of other things. you also don't have to describe its quality.

[Anonymous No.7180263]

>>7180240
thanks
this shape style is something new I have been trying, but it is very difficult to pull off

[Anonymous No.7180268]

I've been called out on it before, but I never let it sink.

I am a slave to instant gratification and need to practice patience. Steady diligence is a slow grind that reaps the best rewards.

[Anonymous No.7180270]

Any Paintchads here that can tell me how I can get into painting stuff like Picrel?

Any Books / Courses you recommend?

Artist is Sophyucha

[Anonymous No.7180275]

>>7180260
You are right but I look at it and nothing but disappointment forms inside my mind.

[Anonymous No.7180276]

>>7180270
you get any usual way, sinix, buccy and who else into mostly direct paint, and then 10 years later and some study you maybe get into painting like picrel. Asian jeens could be nessasary

[Anonymous No.7180279]

Redblobfag. Can you share your autistic drawing process? I lost it.

[Anonymous No.7180280]

>>7180209
NGMI

[Anonymous No.7180284]

>Follow some art accounts
>This fucker already draws figures better in a single month than me in a couple years
I dont know what to even think or do anymore. Talent is real and God threw away all mine.

[Anonymous No.7180286]

>>7180275
I can appreciate that sentiment, truly, but that doesn't mean you also have to disparage yourself. you are simply going to make mistakes at this point, and lots of them. the more you consider and accept that fact, the more enjoyable the process will be. I'm still not perfect in this regard myself, and may never be, but it's certainly possible to make improvements in this regard. you said it yourself that you've not been drawing as frequently the past couple days as you would've liked, so maybe worry about that more and one or two fundamental here or there than your work as a whole. emotions come and go, like disappointment: you don't necessarily have to cling to any one and identify with it. and the sort of disappointment you have is not productive.

[Anonymous No.7180289]

>>7180286
You are right but joining public drawing programs and seeing the talented artists fill their spaces with beautiful art as if it were as easy as breathing while I am stuck for hours in a corner to come up with something so mediocre just makes me feel horrible disappointment.

For the moment I will just retake practice with the boxes, maybe the first chapters of Robertson before he goes turbo autism and then with FDFAIW.
Maybe its just the lack of sleep doing me in. Trying to squeeze in a 50 hour workweek, boxing, drawing, chores and maybe 5-6 hours of sleep starts drilling a hole in my brain. I only wish I had a bit of talent to get out of this permabegness shit abyss already.

If you have any course of action regarding drawing from the very bottom with fundies I will write it up and make my regime.
I am deathly worried of still drawing "wrong" and just keep fucking my shit up getting nowhere so I would really appreciate some guidance regarding starting drawing "correctly".

[Anonymous No.7180292]

Why does this one look bad. The longer I work on it the more I feel it's wrong

[Anonymous No.7180297]

Any pointers before going ahead with colouring? Specifically about perspective, anatomy or gesture.

[Anonymous No.7180306]

New Dota Patch, New impulse to draw Dota Characters.

>>7180292
The perspective and scale feels off. The guy on the right seems to be MASSIVE compared to the other two characters despite technically being further back in the 3D space of the scene. It feels like his whole frame is double the width of the other character. Not sure where this scene is set at but if he's sitting in a desk and the other character is leaning over the desk, she should be looking down at him. It's really strange that they're eye level. Scale down the dude and you should see an immediate improvement.

>>7180259
If you really want to call it shit, go for it. But if you want to be productive try and identify why it's shit. What's wrong with it that you can improve?

[Anonymous No.7180310]

>>7180292
why is my guy doing pushups on the table
I know you will say "no hes supposed to be bla bla bla" point is whatever you wanted it to be it doesnt look like that, it looks like hes doing pushups

[Anonymous No.7180311]

>>7180292
Did a quick mock-up to illustrate my point. There's probably some more things that could be fixed but the scale of the guy is probably the main offender.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7180314]

[Anonymous No.7180316]

:[

[Anonymous No.7180317]

>>7180310

[Anonymous No.7180318]

>>7180317
yep, you drew it wrong, redo it

[Anonymous No.7180327]

>>7180289
>joining public drawing programs and seeing the talented artists fill their spaces with beautiful art as if it were as easy as breathing while I am stuck for hours in a corner to come up with something so mediocre just makes me feel horrible disappointment.
I get what you mean. I don't mean to sound like a broken record, and I don't mean this in a rude way, but while it might not be as easy as snapping your finger and getting rid of your disappointment, you can at least not reaffirm it by expressing that in a given post. if you agree that it is not productive to have, you could additionally try in little ways to not feed into it with your thoughts, writings, etc. I find that being logical in these scenarios can be quite helpful. for instance, yes there are great artists around you who make beautiful art with seemingly little effort, and you are not there, but the only thing that's going to get you closer to them is by putting in the hours. not only that, but being around them is a great opportunity to learn from them, see what mistakes they've made along the way to potentially avoid them yourself.
>Maybe its just the lack of sleep doing me in. Trying to squeeze in a 50 hour workweek, boxing, drawing, chores and maybe 5-6 hours of sleep starts drilling a hole in my brain. I only wish I had a bit of talent to get out of this permabegness shit abyss already.
that is definitely something worth considering also. I don't know your exact history in art, and obviously there's no perfect formula for this sort of thing, but assuming your method of practice is more good than bad, you are naturally going to see less progress the more thin your time is spread; and depending on your exact schedule, you could simply be overworking yourself. I'm sure there's good stuff out there on optimal sleep and how you might better achieve it, but I would probably look into that if I were you - not even just for art's sake but for your overall quality of life. (1/?)

[Anonymous No.7180328]

>>7180327
>If you have any course of action regarding drawing from the very bottom with fundies I will write it up and make my regime.
I am deathly worried of still drawing "wrong" and just keep fucking my shit up getting nowhere so I would really appreciate some guidance regarding starting drawing "correctly"
I'm still working on the fundies myself, so take this for what it's worth - and, by all means, ask another anons in this thread or elsewhere on this board, if you like - but I would just break down fundies however you like and find an appropriate resource for it and work through it. you can also just look around and see how other people break them down. for instance, on the Draftsmen podcast they break the most basic layer into rendering (which is broken down most immediately into figure drawing and portrait drawing), perspective, and composition. though personally I like how the /ic/ sticky breaks it down, where the primary fundamentals are observation and sight, construction and form, perspective, and anatomy and gesture; and other fundamentals are secondary and tertiary. whatever breakdown you find that is appealing to you, pick a book, video course, or whatever for the respective fundies, and work on it for as much as time affords and you are willing. depending on your schedule, it might take you multiple months to get through a book or video course. though it would probably be good to gauge your schedule, your habits, and pick a timeframe to get through it that challenges you but does not take a heroic amount of time and effort more than you are used to. in short, make it reasonably challenging. if there are not exercises in a resource, make your own. you can seek out advice about this too, as most people here will probably have gone through it themselves at some point. (2/3)

[Anonymous No.7180329]

>>7180328
if it does already have exercises, and you are not satisfied with how you did, you can always do it again, and again. you can obviously do that ad infinitum, of course, so probably more than a few times, unless the exercise is really productive and not that time-consuming, is not the best use of your time. you are simply not going to "master" anatomy in your first, second, or probably even third go-around of a resource. so just do your best, rework an exercise a few times if desired, and move on to the next chapter or resource. like another /ic/ guide says, consider it as building "basic" anatomy as opposed to anatomy as a whole. then you can simply try to build upon that basic understanding the next time you decide to focus on it. once you make an earnest attempt at one fundamental, go to the next, then the next. and somewhere, maybe here maybe elsewhere, try to get people to critique your stuff to help you gauge your progress and maybe speed up your progress. (3/3)

[Anonymous No.7180330]

>>7180327
>but assuming your method of practice is more good than bad, you are naturally going to see less progress the more thin your time is spread
to clarify, I wasn't trying to say a mostly good method of practice is related to less progress, simply that if it is mostly good you will see progress. but the less time you dedicate to practice, the slower the prgress will be.

[Anonymous No.7180353]

>>7180116
cute puddi

[Anonymous No.7180365]

I posted this already in the last thread right before it ended sowwy

I drew this without a reference pose for the first time and only looking at the character photo for the clothing, is this GMI level or just pure beg tier? Am i going in the right direction?

[Anonymous No.7180371]

>>7180365
The torso is absolutely enormous, she is more sausage than woman.
Aside from that looks really good for a beg, grind figure drawings

[Anonymous No.7180373]

>>7180211
her upper arms are pretty short
also I feel like we should still be able to see her pinky on her plucking hand

[Anonymous No.7180381]

>>7180371
Zhank you anon, more naked women it is

[Anonymous No.7180387]

am i just retarded or is my wrist going to break by the time i reach age 30. all i do is draw and play click intensive games and my wrist is killing me.

[Anonymous No.7180392]

>>7180122
YES SIR ._.7
>>7180145
I shall get there at any cost!
>>7180353
no u

[Anonymous No.7180393]

>>7180387
Losen your grip. Look into ergonomics. Before you've done damage to yourself which can not be undo.

[Anonymous No.7180413]

>>7180316
think it just needs some stuff straightened up and the pose pushed a bit

[Anonymous No.7180419]

>>7180413
let me explain how it was in my head :D

[Anonymous No.7180435]

There's something off about her lips,can any anon help?

[Anonymous No.7180436]

>>7180435
Oops forgot image.

[Anonymous No.7180437]

>>7180435
I know, she ain't got any (you forgot the png)

[Anonymous No.7180439]

:^)

[Anonymous No.7180441]

Everytime I post my art gets ignored because it's just that bad.... Last drawing I made had 6 fingers and I didn't even realize

I'm sick of being unable to make art that looks good and I'm NGMI

[Anonymous No.7180443]

>>7180441
>Last drawing I made had 6 fingers and I didn't even realize
You're AI lmao

[Anonymous No.7180462]

>>7180161
>>7180217
Thank you for the critique! I didn't realize how important proportions and anatomy was in cartoony drawings. I only focus on that with realistic drawings.

[Anonymous No.7180465]

>>7180439
The bottom lip needs more definition, the original image has the bottom lip have that curved in the middle.

[Anonymous No.7180469]

it's so over bros

[Anonymous No.7180471]

>>7180465

I'm sure someone could do much better. I wanted to just rotate the mouth a bit but then started to just smear paint around in a way that kind of did make sense. But I believe it needs reloomis from the ground-up

[Anonymous No.7180477]

>>7180469
The torso is a bit out there in the photo, your drawing needs to be more curved.

[Anonymous No.7180493]

>>7180110
Comparing it side to side I see she looks way more adult with your proportion correction and the smaller head. I didn't notice because in my mind anime girls just have big heads with big eyes, but I see the appeal in the corrected version.
Yeah I still have to learn those tricks regarding background for character art. It's a lot to think about. Thanks a lot.

>>7180140
Thanks a lot! No I don't have an active blog at the moment. The character is Hata no Kokoro from 2hu.

[Anonymous No.7180500]

>>7179952
Week 1 composition stuff will help you big time with these, no need to go deeper right off the bat

[Anonymous No.7180502]

>>7179980
Don't be a faggot, learn from artists.

[Anonymous No.7180503]

>>7180471
>>7180439
Thanks for helping out anon, I tried, hope it's passable now atleast.(*￣o￣)

[Anonymous No.7180504]

Happy Memorial Day! I’ll take a holiday from drawing but then I haven’t drawn since October so whatevs.

[Anonymous No.7180506]

>>7180503
no it still looks weird lol. need some space between the nose and the lips

[Anonymous No.7180508]

>>7179980
AI art often has inconsistent lighting, so it's crap for shading. Better to understand the principles of painting, as in anatomy/proportions/composition/light source/etc, and study other artists only in terms of trying to understand how they apply said principles.

[Anonymous No.7180510]

>>7180506
(﹏)

[Anonymous No.7180511]

>>7180441
Holy shit just draw for yourself, your art sucks because you're a beginner not knowing any shit about fundamentals and i bet that you just practice them for 5 fucking minutes on a small paper chicken scratching a fucking single ellipse and everyone ignores it because faggots don't know either because they're like you and me who got here for critiques or advices to improve our skills.

I don't know you and didn't saw your art but if you seriously drew a whole fucking 6th finger with your fucking dominant hand that you controlled it with your fucking brain therefore you can think and see, literally a reference was on your arm, then that's a clear fucking sign that you're an absolute beginner, you completely fucking should accept your misery skills as an artist right fucking now and start to study/practice fundamentals properly starting from the very basics like how to draw a fucking line properly using your elbow or shoulder, because you got a time and didn't wasted it completely, otherwise in the future you will bitch whine about your skills like today and you'll not improve at all and just quit drawing.

Get to the fucking drawabox and grind that shit until a lesson where he teaches how to draw an animals, at this point he fucking folded all other Peter Han's lessons, find new resources, make a schedule splitting drawing for yourself and for study and you should be fine, at the very least you will not cry that frequently.

Most importantly accept that you suck ass at drawing.

[Anonymous No.7180513]

>>7180506
˙◠˙...ok

[Anonymous No.7180517]

>>7180513
>>7180510
it looks like she has a overbite lol

[Anonymous No.7180520]

>>7180511
Not the poster but honestly I never been so humbled on here lol. Because I never had good criticism in my schooling from my peers but just from the professors. I remember I did a realism practice for my class and my professor told me I was "semi conscious" making it. Like damn criticism is so brutal but it helps and it's well-meaning.

[Anonymous No.7180525]

>>7180503
the mouth angle is wrong.

[Anonymous No.7180528]

>>7180297
Did some improvements, anyone have a any materials for coloring, shading or the like?

[Anonymous No.7180529]

>>7180503
the crude rendering of the gun doesn't mesh well with the rest of the drawing.

[Anonymous No.7180534]

Making a character sheet for a 3D render to make cartoon short. Have a joke I wanna do. I don't know how well these babes are going to transfer over to 3D, the examples of people who have done it are no doubt of high quality, but lack a cuteness I want to make.

[Anonymous No.7180538]

>>7180513
face is going one way and the mouth is going a different way

[Anonymous No.7180539]

I can't figure out this head

[Anonymous No.7180540]

>>7180528
Your chest, the boobs, or pecs, aren't being stretched with her hands being outstretched like that, as well as not following the curvature of the chest.

For your hands, technically, you know what you're doing, but you need some more oomph. Emotion and excitement is one of the tricks people fail to teach when drawing hands because they are as expressive as the face. The core emotion is a welcome excitement, give them more of an arched curve.

[Anonymous No.7180542]

>>7180539
the head is not a sphere

[Anonymous No.7180544]

>>7180540
Oh, forgot to mention the collor bone deltoid. Looks like i stopped drawing her left one, woops, so look at her right one (our left), the collar bone flows into the delttoid, then the deltoid(Pic related the medial deltoid is mostly what we draw) flows in between the triceps and the biceps. Since the bicep is showing toward the viewer, the medial delt would flow behind it out of the viewers line of sight.

[Anonymous No.7180546]

is Drawing supposed to feel like constantly making Concessions and Compromises? This shit bites. When do I get to make interesting or purposeful decisions?

[Anonymous No.7180551]

>>7180517
>>7180538
>>7180517
|_・)
now?

>>7180529
Yeah, but I am tired rn. I'll change it up later tho, thx.

[Anonymous No.7180557]

>>7180546
when you get good and confident at it

[Anonymous No.7180569]

Submitted without comment

[Anonymous No.7180573]

>>7180569
Damn anon, good work. Feelin jelly.

[Anonymous No.7180575]

haven't drawn in 2 months now i don't know why or how i got filtered so hard by the legs chapter of hampton but i'm finding it impossible to continue from where i left off now so i guess it's back to square 1

[Anonymous No.7180579]

>>7180573
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.7180591]

>>7180573
And don't be jelly. This was a rework of something I did back in 2020. I'll post it once I can scan it in.

[Anonymous No.7180593]

>>7180579
b(￣▽￣*)

>>7180551
Also does anyone have any tips on how to work on my speed? I'm drawing these for a story i'm writing. It would be great if I can shit out more of these in less time without them lookin like complete ass.

[Anonymous No.7180603]

>>7179604
>join the sticky discord
why are some of y’all like this? Bro ASKED me to draw below a face and booted me. Don’t show your art server in a document if you can’t handle a question from another artist

[Anonymous No.7180604]

>>7180575
Watch his videos

[Anonymous No.7180607]

>>7180603
Every server this shitty ass board makes is downright schizophrenic and retarded, just dont bother

[Anonymous No.7180609]

>>7180604
you mean the videos on his youtube channel or his video courses?

[Anonymous No.7180613]

>>7180593
An object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an outside force.
Youll gain momentum after repeatedly drawing the same things and only hit snags when youre tackling something you dont know. Theres no way around it but through it due to your lack of expirence. There is only 2 things i can think off.
Have reference sheets of what youll be drawing so you have quick access your designs.
Sharpen your skill set at breaking things down into simple managable chunks so you can reconstruct them.

Besides that. you need diligent and patient work.

[Anonymous No.7180632]

>>7180591
Here is the original. I wanted to keep the original idea (dragon pinning down a warrior in a dungeon), but wanted a more interesting POV, better anatomy, and to not cop out on the warrior by putting them in complete silhouette.

[Anonymous No.7180635]

Two nice anons were telling me to study the planes of the face and loomis last thread. Finally had some time to sit down and do it today. Comparing it to >>7178801, I can now see where they came from.

>>7180569
Very nice early DnD feel

>>7180306
>It feels like his whole frame is double the width of the other character
tbf, guts might actually be twice as wide as casca, but agree on the perspective and size being off.

[Anonymous No.7180640]

>>7179604
Beg here, what do I need to have better shapes in my thumbnails? I feel that the brush is not the best.

[Anonymous No.7180641]

Should I finish it?
Used the original hanged man as a reference and drew Laios from memory using this artwork https://www.pillowfort.social/posts/4387088

[Anonymous No.7180642]

>>7180603
Artists are fags, discord is for fags and 4chan is mostly fags now, so what did you expect going into triple faggotry

[Anonymous No.7180652]

I have no idea what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.7180662]

>>7180652
Your ear is billboarding. Youre still symbol drawing.
Your chin. The right side of the face goes down to the right side of the chin, but you did the anime V shape from there to hus left ear. You didnt square his jaw to begin the line left side of his chin to his left ear.
As an anon said, youre drawing a circle for the head instead of a sphere, or better yet the oblong shape of the skull. Youre having a lot of trouble seeing them as 3d objects and capturing 3D shapes.

[Anonymous No.7180665]

>>7180662
thanks for the review

do you think drawing these : >>7180635
is a good idea?

I really don't want to draw boxes

[Anonymous No.7180669]

>>7180542
mine is

[Anonymous No.7180672]

>>7180662
Yeah. Draw some of those, but also take a step back from doing a whole head and draw the individual facial features from different angles.

[Anonymous No.7180673]

>>7180672
very helpful explanations thank you

[Anonymous No.7180678]

>>7180672
>be me
>lazy as fuck
>laying down all day everyday
>Front of my face looks handsome.
>Profile view shows a flat balding skull after years of being a lazy shit.

I'm lying by the way, I'm not handsome.

[Anonymous No.7180680]

>>7180603
lol is that nosebro?

[Anonymous No.7180683]

>>7180540
>>7180544
Thanks for the tips anon! I knew some things didn't look right and your explanation did help a lot. Redid the torso and arms. I did also try to make the hands more animated so I redid them slightly while adding nails to exaggerate the curve further out from the hands as to not make the fingers unnatural.

[Anonymous No.7180686]

>>7180678
the struggle

[Anonymous No.7180693]

>>7180672
>>7180686
I don't want to detract from anon learning from this but its an advance thing to point out that this actor may have a weird shaped skull like this, but you don't know due to his hair, so its important to draw as though he does have a rear to his skull and use that line for the volume of his hair.

[Anonymous No.7180700]

Enough is enough bros. It's time to walk around dancing and singing, speak with the birds and the tress, wear weird clothes and most importantly, say whatever comes to your mind. Artists are frustrated because they feel weird in an abnormal world. Let go of the world "cringe" and unleash your creativity on the world.

[Anonymous No.7180703]

>>7180603
>>7180680
yeah that guy is a huge fag, dude is trying to run his own little cult or something.

[Anonymous No.7180717]

>>7180703
I encountered him before, reminder that he is a pedo.

[Anonymous No.7180726]

>>7180717
Based

[Anonymous No.7180731]

i'm having fun with my pentel pocket brush

[Anonymous No.7180744]

>>7180717
well for all the grief he's dished out to people, I sure hope he's "making it" by now.

[Anonymous No.7180748]

End of the month every month i do frazetta studies. Been studying bridgeman a bunch lately and i think it helped alot with determining whats going on in frazettas figures.

[Anonymous No.7180753]

you can tell i'm getting better as i go
anyways enough drawing for tonight

[Anonymous No.7180762]

>>7180748
Very nice
although I would try and get darker values in there to pop the contrast more

[Anonymous No.7180765]

>>7180762
yea frazetta loved drawing darkies

[Anonymous No.7180767]

>>7180762
I don’t know if i just need to do more passes to slowly add value or get like a 8b, but every time i go dark i mess up the whole picture. I’ve done alright with charcoal but charcoal and graphite don’t mix.

[Anonymous No.7180768]

so I removed the sixth finger

[Anonymous No.7180770]

>>7180767
NTA, but whatever. I am in the same shoe, you should basically just do it and get dark values. I personally am always afraid that I would make too much contrast or mess up values but if you give it time it will indeed pop. Also I might disagree about charcoal and graphite not mixing

[Anonymous No.7180771]

crap
here's the actual version without the extra finger

[Anonymous No.7180775]

>>7180767
>>7180770
You guys need to practice value scales. Start with 4 steps, then work up to 8 steps.

[Anonymous No.7180776]

I'm too tired to draw so I'll just think about doing it instead.
>>7180469
Look closely at the reference, then back to your drawing. The tummy is facing the wrong direction

[Anonymous No.7180781]

>>7180632
Sill looks very nice anon. But you have improved lots.
ʃƪ˘ﻬ˘) ´

[Anonymous No.7180785]

>>7180775
I’ve never thought about doing one, i’ll have to give it a try. Right now i just alternate between a 2h and a 4b pencil.

[Anonymous No.7180789]

>>7180770
I’ve found once you put graphite down its hard for me go get charcoal to go ontop of it.

[Anonymous No.7180792]

>>7180744
He’s not lol
>>7180726
You should get burned at the cross

[Anonymous No.7180866]

painted a robot. I think I may have overdone the attempts at weathering. Kind of lost the details and form. Very happy with the leaves though.

Perhaps I should've reduced the number of plates, but been more intentional in the detailing of those that remain. I dunno. Maybe I should experiment more with larger brushstrokes and just have smaller areas of high detail?

How can I learn to paint with bigger shapes instead of overdetailing and losing the form and areas of focus and rest, I always end up with an even amount of details, I want to learn to be deliberate with detailing. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.7180903]

>>7180792
Most of the scum and brats on all the boards need to be destroyed for their views, but you are attached to such crap

[Anonymous No.7180904]

>10/96
Did copy it from a twitter post while on a weekly meeting. And again, I made it looking at left from an image looking at right. I'll stop every study to fix this direction shit first. Damn.

[Anonymous No.7180909]

>>7180904
You have to try to give longer strokes for a cleaner finish, you can't just guess the lines until it feels right

[Anonymous No.7180915]

they always say to just draw
so i just drew
what now

[Anonymous No.7180924]

>>7180915
>what now
do it again, and again, and again

[Anonymous No.7180934]

>>7180924
i see
i will attempt this

[Anonymous No.7180939]

>>7180909
I'm aware of that, thanks. I'm practicing longer strokes on digital mostly and ballpointing on trad to let my mistakes at sight. Also because I hate pencils with passion.
But actually fuck that. I'm terrible enough I can't copy someone looking at right.
I need to fix myself before fixing my lines!

[Anonymous No.7180942]

>>7180904
>drawing lolis at work
GMI

[Anonymous No.7180949]

>>7179604
>Learn anatomy
>Forget anatomy
>Learn gesture
>Forget gesture
>Learn perspective
>Forget perspective
>Learn anatomy
>...
Does it ever end?

[Anonymous No.7180953]

>>7180949
No

[Anonymous No.7180956]

>>7180949
You don't draw, why do you care

[Anonymous No.7180964]

>>7180949
No point in learning something you're not gonna use.

[Anonymous No.7180967]

>>7180949
>n.b.: OP never learned these things

[Anonymous No.7180970]

>>7180903
Nope, I barely post on here

[Anonymous No.7181015]

I feel like the hand perspective is fucked tho I traced my own hand. The rest is fine to me but feel free to prove me wrong ! Also no inspo for the background

[Anonymous No.7181018]

>>7181015
I forgor the pic

[Anonymous No.7181021]

>>7181018
The arms a bit short and shapeless, but the hands aren’t bad. Things are also a bit flat.

[Anonymous No.7181025]

>>7181021
Thank you ! Do you think the flatness is fixable with shading or is it doomed by the composition?

[Anonymous No.7181026]

>>7180866
I think it has a great level of detail without being cluttered. I find over detailing to be distracting, and would in all likelihood break up the shape of your robot in a unflattering manner.

[Anonymous No.7181037]

>>7180771
If flowing curves aren't for you, maybe try something more angular like Young Justice
>>7180641
If yoi're not confident, do it again. Multiple sketches before a final pass is normal

[Anonymous No.7181040]

ehhhhhmmm is this ok to dfraw>>

[Anonymous No.7181048]

>>7181025
Rendering would for certain help

[Anonymous No.7181061]

>>7180949
no
jeff watts even recommends to go back to earlier lessons in his course to refresh your memory
it's a constant loop of
>focus on head drawing
>anatomy degrades a bit
>focus on perspective
>whatever else degrades
it's a constant loop
obviously after a while the degrading part is gonna be lessened

[Anonymous No.7181074]

>>7181061
Somehow it makes me feel better knowing it's a thing that everyone experiences.
Thanks anon, you actually cheered me up a bit

[Anonymous No.7181109]

>>7179927
very nice friend

[Anonymous No.7181116]

feels good to be a coomah

[Anonymous No.7181117]

>>7181116
until it doesn't

[Anonymous No.7181133]

Help?
Tell me why it's shit and what I did well and what to improve
>>7180949
This applies to anything in life not just art. You need to always practice and apply what you learn.
>>7180866
Interesting concept for a tree but try to focus on the center of gravity for the robot, idk if this is intentional or not but it feels a bit tilted and off.
Not sure if the robot is supposed to be futuristic and sleek but try to mess around with overlapping the plates
>>7180652
Seriously look at loomis, box method is a bit confusing if you're starting out. You're also not drawing the square properly in perspective it looks so off and you need to be more confident with your lines and strokes.
>>7180640
Brush isn't going to make your work good. Was this from imagination? It looks empty especially when you open the pic.
>>7180539
You need to push that middle line/"cross" more towards the left it's too in the middle if that makes sense
and symbol drawing.
>>7180016
Why no speedlines on hands?

[Anonymous No.7181156]

I'm new to /ic/ and art, and have been scouring for advice and guides from Youtube, articles and /ic/ threads. Until now I've followed Marc Brunet's 30 day drawing challenge (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5AV42mgAe0)) to get myself acquainted with the fundamentals, but I'm a bit stuck beyond that. I do keep practicing my spheres and cylinders daily, but I also took to finding nice looking drawings or anime stills and trying to copy them line by line, hoping that the action of doing it will also improve my abilities. Pic related is a copy from an anime still. However, I'm hearing conflicted opinions on this practice, some say it's not good to copy "blindly", others that it's not good at all, and even detrimental because you force yourself to rely on the reference too much. How can I reference/copy more effectively? What does it mean to copy "not blindly"? What's the next step of improvement from the theoretical knowledge of the bare fundamentals? Appreciate your insight in advance!

>>7179927
>>7181109
Love to see Holo here, just got into the series this year with the remake. Thanks for the cute art bros

[Anonymous No.7181167]

>>7174482
Sorry for bringing this up again but i'm practicing and just noticed. If i'm training drawing by reference and all that stuff. Do i need to build like a stickman for it or do i just straight draw it?

[Anonymous No.7181170]

>>7181167
It will help you to construct your reference.

[Anonymous No.7181194]

>>7181156
>However, I'm hearing conflicted opinions on this practice,
I belive It is always good, no matter how you do it. We can argue about how you need to approach it and what is most important and how to better retain it, but what it always does, no matter what is forcing you to stare at a good thing and experience expressing it.
>you force yourself to rely on the reference too much.
For that, just not limit yourself to only copying.

[Anonymous No.7181220]

>>7181194
Thanks for the reassurance. Glad to know at least my time up until now wasn't wasted. Could you elaborate a little bit on that second point? What's the most effective way to use my reference, other than copy it?

[Anonymous No.7181226]

Some of today's practice

[Anonymous No.7181232]

>>7181156
welp, it depends on how you copied.
If you virtually traced it, you have picked up very little. What youre failing to learn is how it was constructed from scrap and why it was made that way. What was being expressed.

What a lot of people here are doing drawing from refrences is that they are using their construction skills to get the face right with what theyre drawing. They are calibrating their construction lines, so they can deconstruct it and reconstruct it. Using reference is figuring out how you can duplicate similar results.

Thats essentially what we are doing. Some Full Metal Alchemist magic. Deconstruct it, understand it, then reconstruct it back again.

The next step, with honing these abilities is to use them for constructing new things not yet created. Something you personally want to express.

Basically, we are learning to sculpt a 3D object on a 2D plane.

If youre just copying, youre not challenging yourself to be creative in something new. Thats why its a warning when they say youre relying on reference. Youre merely focusing on the ability to duplicate what was made, which in its own right, is a skill, but a lot of people that like making their own stuff, can do that already to a degree. I can only assume that they feel any conversation with someone who just duplicates things will go nowhere.

[Anonymous No.7181254]

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[Anonymous No.7181258]

Sup beg.

>>7181156
>>7180365
the word you are looking for is called construction. and before you can construct you need to learn perspective. Do book Perspective made easy. Then pick up ANY figure drawing book. Loomis, hogarth, bridgman, vilppu, eviston, tomfox, morpho... pick your poison
>>7181133
now make new layer and trace it with clean lines
>>7181018
hand on left is lmao, use reference
>>7180915
now render it. add color, shades, background and a title
>>7180866
i like it
>>7180771
flat
>>7180748
very cool and it even has coom potential
>>7180700
simple duck
>>7180603
you joined wrong beg server discord gg/qgqzJwtM
>>7180569
this has the issue many mangas have: cluttered unreadable composition. Like if you look at the object separately: the wall, the tunel, the dragon, the thot... it is all excellent, using full value range. But the sum of it? chaos. viewer needs to carefully look the scene multiple times before the translates what is going on in it. The solution? plan ahead and dont use whole value range on all subjects: make background lighter, make outline of dragon MASSIVE, etc. It is very cool otherwise
>>7180534
cute metal slug thot
>>7180387
fix your ergonomics or risk getting PERMANENT nerve damage rendering your arm useless
wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpal_tunnel_syndrome
>>7180314
>military
>no gun, no tank, no barracks
you drew boxing maid
>>7180246
very nice
>>7180116
you need to study drapery and how to shade. cute thot

[Anonymous No.7181326]

>>7181156
Face is nice there are problems with proportions on left hand and both arms. Right hand ok but a bit big and nails are a bit crooked.

>>7181258
There are big improvement if the green doodle were done before. The unecessary lines you’re adding for style purpose aren’t serving you in my opinion. Maybe it would be a good exercices for you to practise soft features now. Also wtf is this watermark about boobs lol


>>7181040
Use reference and learn basic proportion then move on to shading I also recommend doing really basic greyscale shading before trying what your doing

>>7180753
Huge improvement.
1st left chin asymetrical,
second one the nose is a bit too much facing us compared to the rest the face


DONT FORGET TO FLIP YOUR CANVAS / USE MIRRORS EVERYONE

I’m happy about two of this, ok with 3 and think 2 are a failure curious if people can tell wich and how to fix whatever needs to be fixed

[Anonymous No.7181330]

>>7181326
Forgot pic again

[Anonymous No.7181369]

>>7181258
dont call her a thot...
but yes you are correct. I'll be an /int/ (probably) when i figure out folds (hopefully)

[Anonymous No.7181371]

A desert girl

[Anonymous No.7181488]

>>7181371
In my humble opinion

[Anonymous No.7181551]

>>7181258
I wonder if Pawel could improve from doing Huston method on drawing heads instead? Loomis didn't work for me (too much prep and window for error when cutting at the sphere). Box works much better imho.

[Anonymous No.7181581]

>>7181258
>mfw

[Anonymous No.7181609]

how do you guys construct your anime faces

[Anonymous No.7181616]

>>7180211
Avoid this style at all costs, looks like AI

[Anonymous No.7181617]

>>7180205
Hummina hummina hummina bazooooooooing! *eyes pop out* AROOOOOOOOGA! *jaw drops tongue rolls out* WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF *tongue bursts out of the outh uncontrollably leaking face and everything in reach* WURBLWUBRLBWURblrwurblwurlbrwubrlwburlwbruwrlblwublr *tiny cupid shoots an arrow through heart* Ahhhhhhhhhhh me lady... *heart in the shape of a heart starts beating so hard you can see it through shirt* ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum *milk truck crashes into a bakery store in the background spiling white liquid and dough on the streets* BABY WANTS TO F--K *inhales from the gas tank* honka honka honka honka *masturabtes furiously* ohhhh my gooooodd~

[Anonymous No.7181765]

>>7181156
I'd say understanding the shapes of an image is the first step, but according to your drawing you have the hang of the basics. For me the next step would be to rotate your existing shapes in space and draw them from different angles until you understand them good enough to apply them whenever you want.

[Anonymous No.7181820]

does anybody have references of human posing as predators? Searching for rexes' references

[Anonymous No.7182074]

>>7181488
Thank you! I was trying to give her some solid, muscular legs, but maybe I over-did it.

[Anonymous No.7182143]

>>7180205
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/113040591
now render like him

[Anonymous No.7182146]

>>7182143
>>7180205
kek

[Anonymous No.7182367]

Thoughts on broad/plane values before I start rendering this? Taking takes on the facial anatomy too.

[Anonymous No.7182395]

>>7182367
please go back and simplify, add the highlights after rendering or you will end up with MORE mud , I've had a quick go at a few basic perspective issues I saw in the face

[Anonymous No.7182396]

>>7182395
Mostly, you need to SIMPLIFY jesus christ all of your issues are tunnel vision errors