t/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners Thread

[Anonymous No.7129313]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

Previous thread: >>7126558

[Anonymous No.7129317]

What's the point in cooking your own food like a retard which is more time consuming and expensive when you have instant food
>b-b-but it's sterile and lacks sovl
Fucking luddites, then go swim in the ocean naked if taking a ship it's too grim

[Anonymous No.7129325]

>>7129313
>he fucked up the title
Why are you rushing?

[Anonymous No.7129341]

[Anonymous No.7129342]

>>7129341

[Anonymous No.7129356]

>>7129313
C-can I make it bros?

[Anonymous No.7129362]

Baldurs Gate doodles

[Anonymous No.7129383]

Managed to make my lineart more smooth than before

[Anonymous No.7129386]

I still don’t draw.

[Anonymous No.7129389]

>>7129281
uhh, SEXO???

[Anonymous No.7129456]

alright my fellow drawers by drawers i literally mean drawers. I am the day 65 beg guy

I think it's time to take my studies seriously now I'm gonna do keys to drawing and complete it.

[Anonymous No.7129458]

Pls /beg/ how the fuck do I draw a sphere? I tried constructing one but am getting lost with all the axes.

[Anonymous No.7129462]

>>7129458
why in gods name would you put that much effort into studying a sphere that way that is literally never going to be beneficial to you

[Anonymous No.7129463]

>>7129462
>literally never going to be beneficial to you
Except it will always be beneficial.

[Anonymous No.7129468]

>perspective is fucked and idk how to fix it
Not worried about the fucked hand, mostly the gun. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.7129470]

>>7129458
open blender, create a sphere and highlight the ellipse arcs/axis you want in wireframe mode
but like the other anon says, it's kinda pointless to invest time into that when you can't draw ellipses without chicken scratching them to hell

[Anonymous No.7129472]

>>7129463
post ya work buddy

[Anonymous No.7129484]

No more cute girls anymore >:(

[Anonymous No.7129488]

No more cute girls

[Anonymous No.7129495]

>>7129488
Sexo...O_O

[Anonymous No.7129496]

Drafting up something.
>Void
>Tranny face
>Hidden extremities
>Flat
>Boring ass comp
Yeah, this is pre-/beg/

[Anonymous No.7129497]

How do I shake off the feeling that I should be doing better?
For example; like most anons here I too have my own characters and make art of them. However it's starting to bother me that I'm doing a disservice drawing them so shittily and my fans just have to put up with it. Now it's worth noting nobody's said anything negative about my art (yet) but I still can't shake the feeling that something's not quite right and I should just buy commissions instead.

[Anonymous No.7129501]

>>7129488
Those eyes speaking to me

[Anonymous No.7129507]

>>7129341

[Anonymous No.7129515]

>>7129488
Shoulders look dislocated

[Anonymous No.7129518]

>>7129313
Havent done guys in a while
Ended up ripping a bit of the page furiously erasing the bow :(

[Anonymous No.7129531]

>>7129518
It would probably do you some good to get a notebook with thinner paper, or a decent eraser. I used old acrylic paint paper notebooks for a couple years as a kid, this would happen to me too.

[Anonymous No.7129558]

Draw this

[Anonymous No.7129577]

Trying to turn this old commission into a fullbody. How should I draw the legs?

[Anonymous No.7129580]

:/

[Anonymous No.7129581]

What if I don't even want to "make it"? I just want to have fun doing silly drawings as a hobby. But I still want to improve because my drawings look worse than a 5 year old's, and not like what I want to draw at all. Do I still have to copy Bridgman and Loomis, do courses like drawabox, learn anatomy etc.?

[Anonymous No.7129582]

>>7129518
I made the tank
>>7129531
Yeah i just steal printer paper from work
Palms also tend to get sweaty, not sure if thats thw reason

[Anonymous No.7129596]

>>7129313
any advice for posing four arms in a relaxed position?

I tried a few different ones but I always feel the posing is weird.

[Anonymous No.7129602]

>>7129596
use references or something
it will always feel weird, because putting 4 arms on a human anatomy is weird
I think in your case you need to separate the arms a little bit, there is no way that shoulder can fit under that bicep and even if you want to go with this anatomy, the upper arm should react to it and rest on the lower shoulder
imo you should just lift goro's anatomy, you can notice his second set of arms is smaller which would make posing easier, broader shoulders could help too
idl what I'm talking about this is just my fec cents, btw your pic doesn't look bad apart from that shoulder overlap

[Anonymous No.7129607]

>>7129602
What I kind of don't like about a lot of the Goro poses is they feel kind of tensed up or active.

I wanted something that's kind of relaxed. I found this pic that's got less of that, but even this one's kind of tensed up with how his arms are kind of sticking out.

[Anonymous No.7129614]

I can't help because it's stupid, but I want to point out: ...:[

[Anonymous No.7129618]

>>7128907#
Here's my idea to solution
Why not just make the legs same as torso and keep them both in side view

[Anonymous No.7129657]

>>7129558

[Anonymous No.7129663]

>>7129657
great :]

[Anonymous No.7129668]

[Anonymous No.7129704]

>>7129668
permabeg fag

[Anonymous No.7129713]

>>7129704
how am i a permabeg and how am i a fag ( i dont expect an answer )

[Anonymous No.7129727]

>>7129704
how can i be permabeg when i am already int-duke? (i wouldnt call myself king for Reilly is king)
foreverthereforemore, how can i be fag when i fucked your mum? and your sister? twice? just last night? and the night before?

[Anonymous No.7129732]

>>7129704
>>7129704
>>7129704
>>7129704
>>7129704

Faragasso is king
Reilly is king
Bridgman is emperor
I am int-duke
peasant faggot maggots should learn their place
do not @me
cry in the corner
never gonna make it, fuckin faggot
tell your mum i send my regards
faggot

[Anonymous No.7129734]

Now that ive mastered human anatomy, whats the next step?

[Anonymous No.7129735]

>>7129704
NTA but those arent beg drawings
just letting you know, bro
have a good one

[Anonymous No.7129736]

>>7129732
>hands/feet/face
barely high beg, maybe

[Anonymous No.7129742]

>>7129732
less than ai slop floating faceless copies tier

[Anonymous No.7129745]

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that when they call others permabeg
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[Anonymous No.7129747]

>>7129713
>>7129727
>>7129732
>>7129745
midbroken 4 posts in a row
permabeg

[Anonymous No.7129748]

just shittin all over you is all

[Anonymous No.7129749]

>>7129747
i said im just shittin all over you is all
thats all
you can cry in the corner if this is too much for you

[Anonymous No.7129751]

another 2 posts in a row
see you in a month beggy

[Anonymous No.7129753]

why in a month niggy
have you lost your rationale from me shittin all over you or what

[Anonymous No.7129754]

>>7129751
i said why in a month niggy
i asked have you lost your rationale from me shittin all over you or wha
speak up, champ i cant hear you

[Anonymous No.7129755]

>>7129747
so uhhh how much have your drawings improved since you called me permabeg one and a half hours ago

[Anonymous No.7129762]

>>7129747
did you repeating the word permabeg increase the rate at which your drawings are improving? is it like a trick? how is it working out for you

[Anonymous No.7129777]

[Anonymous No.7129778]

>>7129581
It will help, but don’t force yourself to do it yet if it’s not fun. You might enjoy copying other artists more. At some point you’ll hit a wall doing that which will make things less fun and then you’ll be ready to study fundies and actually enjoy it because you’ll be ready to improve a lot at the things you struggled with.

[Anonymous No.7129782]

>>7129777
cute origami

[Anonymous No.7129786]

>>7129747

[Anonymous No.7129788]

>>7129581
>not like what I want to draw at all
what would you like to draw like
post an example

[Anonymous No.7129800]

>>7129788
Idk, something like this maybe. Maybe even simpler and without color for now. And it still never turns out right.

[Anonymous No.7129802]

>>7129777
2 right foots

[Anonymous No.7129810]

>>7129732
>faceless figures with a bit of rendering
>le int

[Anonymous No.7129838]

>>7129614
I think I get what you mean, moving the arm up moves the entire shoulder and pec as well not just the arm

[Anonymous No.7129844]

I’m going through the Bridgeman boot camp on YouTube with the Marshall guy, let’s see how this goes.

[Anonymous No.7129850]

>>7129788
Let's say something like this for example: >>7129580
But maybe actually even simpler, since here anatomy seems to be the main draw.
Or maybe some furry stuff like this: >>7128476

[Anonymous No.7129852]

>>7129496
Be honest with me. How shit does this look?

[Anonymous No.7129854]

>>7129788
NTA but personally, I want to draw my fanfics of the Owl House, because I'm a writer more than an artist, but no one reads fanfics. I can spend hours crafting up alternate religious beliefs or connecting the breadcrumbs of religious movements in the American Northeast into hints of the Demon Realm beyond it, but actually sitting down and drawing out the dream sequences of Space Bandit Luranja is like pulling fingernails. I can't sit my Autism/ADHD tard ass down to just draw the things, and when I do it just doesn't look right.

The black chick in pic related is one of them that's driving me up a wall. I've tried a bunch of different variances on upper left, (the only references the show actually provided of this Background character) and the one I circled seems the closest to what I want, but it's still frustrating how difficult getting her face 'right' has been. The one I circled I know already wasn't accounting for her cheeks so the mouth goes farther than it should, and yeah I probably should have just started with basic shapes and filled it out to get it right, but... well I don't really have an excuse, but these drawings are all weeks between each other, and between then I'm distracting myself with all sorts of things.

I wish she had more references to work with. I get why she doesn't, why what I'm trying to do is going in blind, but if she's gonna be the MC's best friend for a majority of the story I gotta get good at drawing her.

[Anonymous No.7129863]

>>7129854
I like your hunger to draw your stories. Shits cool.

[Anonymous No.7129866]

Can anyone post some refs with hands visible

[Anonymous No.7129879]

>>7129866

[Anonymous No.7129883]

>>7129879
this is what happens to bloody bastartds who redeem

[Anonymous No.7129888]

last thread got made right as i posted so i’ll shamelessly repost
am i fooling myself with thinking i’m improving? if yes i guess i need to rethink my study plan

[Anonymous No.7129890]

Finished the semi final pencils. After taking a longer than usual break from drawing got back into it.

feel free to roast or crit me. planning on inking this as well.

[Anonymous No.7129893]

>>7129888
You're definitely improving technically, but in terms of design 1 is my favorite.

[Anonymous No.7129905]

>>7129863
Thanks, I just wish that hunger was able to roll out to more consistent art production. I don't want to end up as the next Howie, and I have my tardout moments, I could easily be that dude, but I do have a lot of mental blocks with focusing on frustrating things, and not being able to make the characters I want, as the shifting living things in my head, is the most frustrating part of this.

I want to add some variance to make it clear these are distinct characters, but not so much that it breaks from the style of the show. I've seen it too often in people posting OCs where they're either sparkledog versions of established characters, or they're off in some way, like the eyes or the mouth. This IS a show full of different monster looking creatures without much rules, but it's a fine line you know? Doesn't help that the show never released any proper character design rules, pic related's helped but it's a fan creation doing the work backwards.

[Anonymous No.7129931]

>>7129893
cool, thanks
does the iliac crest area look weird? i had a few references open but i still couldn’t figure how to place it exactly

[Anonymous No.7129938]

>>7129890
maybe add something he would stand on, as it is half that sword is underground.

[Anonymous No.7129952]

>>7129888
cute
looks like a pokemon evolution chart

[Anonymous No.7129955]

[Anonymous No.7129960]

I still don't know what to draw

[Anonymous No.7129966]

>>7129470
NTA but I'm still confused on what exactly an ellipse is

[Anonymous No.7129967]

>>7129960
There's a towergirl thread up

[Anonymous No.7129970]

>>7129960
booba

[Anonymous No.7130006]

>>7129966
a circle in perspective

[Anonymous No.7130026]

>>7129704
Low test drama instigator

[Anonymous No.7130029]

Should I buy an iPad for art? I want to draw at work during down time, as well as without a PC. Is there any better alternative?

[Anonymous No.7130030]

>>7130029
just proompt who cares about real drawing anymore humans are obsolete

[Anonymous No.7130040]

>>7129747
What a faggot.
>>7130030
>humans are obsolete
You should consider taking the useless trash out - KYS

[Anonymous No.7130041]

>>7127979
The face is actually traced. You can see the cheek fat distribution

[Anonymous No.7130042]

>>7130029
who's the slut in your image?

[Anonymous No.7130047]

[Anonymous No.7130048]

Doodle I had started last night of my character, Blanche. I've also been thinking of redesigning her but I'm so used to this design that I can't look at it objectively even though I know it's actually quite poor. There's too much history and intrinsic symbolism to me in her design. Any criticism/redline/recommendations appreciated.

[Anonymous No.7130051]

>>7130048
Here's her last character sheet I made in 2023 for reference

[Anonymous No.7130056]

Been watching tutorials on shit, got to one point perspective and I'm not sure if I get it or not but I guess that's what the videos are for
>>7129905
>drawing your own fanfics
Nice, you don't see that very often

[Anonymous No.7130088]

Had a very lousy day mentally, seems I may have over done a certain supplement and need to go off it for a few days. hands felt shakier and had some low grade anxiety, but was able to do this...since it's become tradition for me to draw her I guess.

There are quite a few inaccuracies but I did this in like a few minutes.

[Anonymous No.7130092]

>>7129317
how is it more expensive to cook your own food?

[Anonymous No.7130098]

>>7129317
what backwards ass place do you live in that its more expensive to cook your own food

[Anonymous No.7130102]

Value study I never finished

[Anonymous No.7130105]

>>7130102
Value studies should be in grayscale yo.

[Anonymous No.7130106]

well i guess he's comparing ai to frozen food and cup noodles. i suppose its a good analogy. its processed food and will give you cancer if you eat too much

[Anonymous No.7130119]

what are some simple things I can get to help practice?
a bunch of foam shapes?

[Anonymous No.7130174]

I drew my first original bald fat Jew! Surely the secrets of construction shall be revealed to me soon. Thank you Loomis-sensei.

[Anonymous No.7130184]

>>7130102
where the fuck did you get that shadow on left shoulder blade from?
in general, are you high or drunk?
I'd ask you if you need glasses but having blurry vision would've probably made your "value study" better.

[Anonymous No.7130188]

>G-pens actually hold watercolors
why the fuck did I buy so many brushes

[Anonymous No.7130191]

>>7130184
Damn I must have been too distracted from ur mom sucking my cock and balls while I was working

[Anonymous No.7130197]

>>7130088
The way you drew the head here looks way more solid (as opposed to symbol) compared to your realistic head attempts, good job. Not sure if you did it subconsciously or what but if you can apply the same thing to your realistic drawings too you’ll have a much easier time with them.

[Anonymous No.7130204]

>>7130197
I think it's because cartoony styles are so much easier than drawing realistic heads, they just have so many subtle details that are hard to capture.

I hope I can master realistic heads someday, but today wasn't one of them as I over did a certain supplement and put myself in a semi anxious state (but even when my skill improvement wasn't lost despite some shakiness).

i forgot, I did these before hand too, though these look awful. I tried to go for bigger eyes while using reference, still looks horrid though.

[Anonymous No.7130237]

some 2 min figures or gestures or whatever and an attempt at creating something but then my deep dark depression hit again and I stopped I never finish something it's been a year since I started drawing I've lost all motivation almost and want to kms daily :DD

[Anonymous No.7130239]

>>7130051
This is what the nazis (based) would call entartete kunst

[Anonymous No.7130241]

>>7130040
HUMAN EXTINCTION NOW!! LOOK AT ALL SELLERS ON DEVIANTART!! AI HAS OUTCOMPETED ALL HUMANS ALREADY!!

ALL OVERRENDERED FURPORN WILL BE DOMINATED BY THE MACHINE!! ALL YOU COOMBUCKS GO TO THE MACHINE!!!

[Anonymous No.7130248]

>>7130191
cope, seethe, learn to use your worthless eyes or even better tongue my anus and kill yourself afterwards retard

[Anonymous No.7130251]

>>7130241
BASED!

DEATH TO THE UNIVERSE! ALL MUST END! RETURN TO SOPHIA AND DENOUNCE THE DEMIURGE

https://youtu.be/OVjppv7y_Uc

[Anonymous No.7130258]

>>7129341
>>7129342
>>7129507
anon, do you have art socials or an artist name (pseud) you go by? I am a big fan of your drawings.

[Anonymous No.7130262]

>>7130248
Your mom killed herself after she got done tongue'n my anus actually.

[Anonymous No.7130266]

Critique my quick perspective sketches

[Anonymous No.7130270]

tips for fingers?

[Anonymous No.7130274]

>>7130270
use them on my wet boypussy

[Anonymous No.7130275]

Any critiques on this drawing I’m working on? Still lots of texture left to work on. Just finished coverage of the entire eagle pretty recently

[Anonymous No.7130276]

>>7129389
>>7129952
arigato

[Anonymous No.7130287]

>>7130270

[Anonymous No.7130291]

>>7130102
I stole your reference, anon, but this isn't a paintover. I just wanted to study that torso too

Anyone have any pointers for me in regards to painting?

[Anonymous No.7130298]

Transvestite vegetta

[Anonymous No.7130299]

>>7130241
>>7130251

[Anonymous No.7130307]

>>7129313
Critique please

[Anonymous No.7130310]

>>7129955

[Anonymous No.7130314]

>>7130291
Nice

[Anonymous No.7130322]

>>7130314
thanks. That one was in CSP, and it was frustrating to get the brushes to behave there.

Then I switched to photoshop, and the brushes became 1000x easier to use. No wonder people hate painting in CSP

[Anonymous No.7130364]

>>7130322

but looks 20x times more sloppy and 10x times worse :/

[Anonymous No.7130366]

>>7130364
Damn, how can you say those gloriously rendered muscles.... look worse?

Mr. Hogarth would like to have a word with you from beyond the grave.

[Anonymous No.7130376]

>>7130258
@sclavus9

[Anonymous No.7130377]

>>7130102
I added this torso to my practice too
>>7130275
looks pretty good

[Anonymous No.7130381]

Anyone have examples of their constructions of Loomis’ Vamps from Fun With a Pencil? On pages 92-3

[Anonymous No.7130384]

more anatomy, right?

[Anonymous No.7130385]

>>7130384
no

[Anonymous No.7130389]

>>7130385
advices?

[Anonymous No.7130390]

Sup beg, i feel like i am stuck. Permabeg stuck. it is like there is some fundamental approach to figgies i am missing. I think this shit will take me years.

>>7129161
>any other books to recommend?
check my blog, sections wisdom and library pawell2418.github.io
>>7130322
>switching app instead of learning how to adjust existing brushes
as someone who already tried like 12 diff apps i can assure you they all behave the same way. nice torso btw
>>7130307
eyes too far away. otherwise its cute
>>7130298
chad femboy vegeta
>>7130275
i kneel
>>7130266
drawing boxes in a vacuum is rather pointless, to practice perspective you want to depict full scenes with background, that is what perspective is all about
>>7130237
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10135952
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6515787
>>7130188
how do water colors work with gpen? do you disolve the color in water and then pump it into the pen???
>>7130051
i would swear i saw this character before. is that your OC or does it exist elsewhere? also damn COOM
>>7129952
nice
>>7129905
looks like usa cartoon from pro. i kneel
>>7129890
i kneel
>>7129888
i wouldnt use word improvement, it is basically the same thing. your style just evolved a little
>>7129777
check how heads look like in 3/4 view (hint, perspective, foreshortening)
>>7129734
rendering?
>>7129657
very cool
>>7129580
it looks like you used reference for upper body and then drew the legs from imagination: the legs are stiff, have way less details and arent curved like animals legs would be
>>7129496
torso is flat, paws are confusing, drapery is outright wrong
>>7129468
bad ellipses violating perspective
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/page/n135
>>7129356
yes

[Anonymous No.7130392]

>>7130390
>torso is flat, paws are confusing, drapery is outright wrong
Pawell, sir. Could you redline it? I am kinda lost there.

[Anonymous No.7130394]

>>7130389
read a guide on composition

[Anonymous No.7130396]

>>7130390
>. it is like there is some fundamental approach to figgies i am missing
effort
none of these figures took you more than 2 minutes or 1% of brainpower

[Anonymous No.7130397]

>>7130394
ok, Do you have one that you recommend?

[Anonymous No.7130399]

>>7130384
more ass :>

[Anonymous No.7130405]

>>7130399
noice
you can made a lines for the hands?, please

[Anonymous No.7130407]

>>7130405
make* sorry

[Anonymous No.7130410]

>>7129342d
I think you should draw complete pictures rather than pages of noncomital drawings

[Anonymous No.7130412]

>>7130399
Here is a drawing I made

[Anonymous No.7130416]

>>7130410

[Anonynous No.7130418]

>>7129960
draw alice in your style

[Anonymous No.7130424]

clip studio homies, whats a good all-purpose pencil-like brush for daily sketching and practice? preferably free

[Anonymous No.7130431]

glad the weekend's coming up so i can spend a few days straight just doodling/studying
i definitely need to do more figures...study joints/the hip box + torso connection, hands etc. everything basically kek

[Anonymous No.7130437]

Figuring out colors, its been a busy week.

[Anonymous No.7130438]

>>7130437
I kneel.

[Anonymous No.7130440]

>>7130381
Please, having examples to compare with mine would be really helpful

[Anonymous No.7130458]

>>7130390
pawell's improving a lot!!

[Anonymous No.7130467]

>>7130431
>f*male
Dropped

[Anonymous No.7130473]

>>7130310

[Anonymous No.7130477]

>>7130416

[Anonymous No.7130478]

>>7130416
>>7130477
gl

[Anonymous No.7130481]

>>7130390
Pawell! >>7130051 it's me! FlashFirePrime! ;-; it's my baby OC Blanche! I was discussing changing her design in the oc-and-lore-discussion channel if you want to take a gander?

[Anonymous No.7130486]

>>7130390
>i feel like i am stuck. Permabeg stuck. it is like there is some fundamental approach to figgies i am missing. I think this shit will take me years.
Hey Pawell, you've only been figure drawing for a few months, right? Don't be too hard on yourself, this is just how it goes. I wish you had started figure drawing earlier though, because I feel like drawing the figure is where you "real" improvement really begins.

The thing that improved my figure drawing the MOST was doing the David Finch roadmap. If I were you, I'd start from the beginning, with John Buscema's book, doing little mannequin gestures every day, memorizing your anatomy and proportions, then eventually getting to the Bridgman routine. With your grindset focus, I'm sure you will make it through Bridgman. Dave's roadmap is literally the most efficient way to learn figure drawing and construction, in my opinion. You can swap out Bridgman with Morpho or Taco, if you want, but I wouldn't recommend it. Your work is already very curvy and wiggly, and I think you NEED Bridgman's hard edges to counterbalance your natural tendency.

After you finish Bridgman, watch David Finch's study streams and just study like that, for the rest of your art journey.

Good luck!

[Anonymous No.7130487]

Can I ask for any videos or reading material about HOW to implement the elements and principles of design into your drawings. I've got them written down, but I just can't really figure out how to utilize them.

[Anonymous No.7130491]

>>7130486
that lower body redline is wrong

[Anonymous No.7130493]

What's that one chalky brush most people seem to be using these days?
"it's da artist, not da tool", nigga I've been using the same circle semi-opacity no texture brush for years, it's time for me to move on.

[Anonymous No.7130503]

Tonight's canvas. Joined to get MOGGED to death.

[Anonymous No.7130510]

>>7130416
>Wednesday, December 21, 2022
>477 days ago

[Anonymous No.7130512]

did some revisions on this (a lot w help from crit from previous thread)
how's it looking?

[Anonymous No.7130516]

Draw this in your style.

[Anonymous No.7130521]

gonna take ages to render this

[Anonymous No.7130531]

task failed successfully :D

[Anonymous No.7130552]

>>7130503
Those are all /beg/ works.
>>7130486
>>7130491
Nta, but shut the fuck up. It's hard to redline a piece of shit you POS.
>>7130531
>look at my "bad" works. I am so humble.

[Anonymous No.7130555]

>>7130552
based

[Anonymous No.7130567]

gote an rabit

[Anonymous No.7130568]

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7130576]

Im having an art block, forcing myself to draw whatever comes to mind to try to get off it.

[Anonymous No.7130587]

>>7130552
lazy color :D

[Anonymous No.7130589]

>>7130510

[Anonymous No.7130595]

>>7130587
Thighs look odd, I can't really make out if she's sitting or not.

[Anonymous No.7130604]

>>7130595
The idea was to set it from about her knee level, and yea she is kind of sitting - it is >>7130437 ripoff, but what I wanted was to make the camera lower. So it is extreme foreshortening on legs, but I don't know how it will look like, this just what I come up with. :/

[Anonymous No.7130606]

>>7130604
I like it. Only thing I would nitpick is that the torso looks long as fuck.

[Anonymous No.7130607]

>>7130604
dont worry it looks fine and is very obviously a sitting/kneeling pose

[Anonymous No.7130608]

>>7130531
>>7130587
Legs should be much higherer up in sitting position, they look like the joints connecting legs to pelvis got severely dislocated

[Anonymous No.7130614]

>>7130604
I'm not sure of this myself but I've made some changes based on your ref. My main grip was the weird bulging things in the middle of her thighs, knees I'm assuming? they just looked odd.

[Anonymous No.7130635]

How do I stop looking at the metaphorical top of the mountain and learn to focus on the smaller parts here and now? I look at works like >>7130614 and immediately think to myself "there's no way I can do this", and then promptly give up. What's a good way to set some achievable goals for myself and get some tangible progress that I can feel encouraged about even at a low (nonexistent) skill level?

[Anonymous No.7130637]

My contribution for the draw your waifu in paint thread.
As you can see it is irredeemably permabeg

[Anonymous No.7130640]

>>7130614
It is not the proper image, but to demonstrate how these lumps make sense to me. I'm just bullshitting my anatomy, but this kind of logic behind

[Anonymous No.7130648]

>>7130635
I'm literally, in no funny way, retarded, so anything I do is achievable by most of the curve given enough persistence.

[Anonymous No.7130657]

How do you guys go from greyscale to color?

[Anonymous No.7130658]

[Anonymous No.7130660]

>>7130587
I think it looks fine - he's just using basic overlap.

[Anonymous No.7130669]

drew at uni, maybe gonna clean it later

[Anonymous No.7130670]

>>7130657
multiply
hardlight
gradientmap
overlay/dodge for spice
any of the above or combinations of them. mixing alchemy is cool but not completely automagic.
Just search your question on YouTube

[Anonymous No.7130671]

[Anonymous No.7130673]

Drawing the princess on the right(doodle on the left is just for flavor).

Anything that looks too off?

[Anonymous No.7130675]

>>7130486
This looks completely wrong

[Anonymous No.7130676]

Should I aim for 100% accuracy when I try to copy things? It's immensely not fun when I try to do so and my visual perception ability seems to be low. Can I become intermediate if I practice like this? (pic related)

[Anonymous No.7130678]

>>7130671
nice!

[Anonymous No.7130679]

>>7130676
you should try being as accurate as you can if you want to improve
try subjects with larger margins of error if you struggle, like rocks, trees and weird animals

[Anonymous No.7130680]

>>7130679
Thanks

[Anonymous No.7130690]

Trying to ascend to int-hood

[Anonymous No.7130694]

>>7130521
Blog. Now.

[Anonymous No.7130696]

>>7130635
Just draw what you like, consistency is key. If your goal is to draw smoking hot anime babe then make that your goal! as you progress you'll start noticing a bunch of other sub-goals that'll get you there.

[Anonymous No.7130697]

>>7129496
>>7130637
Hitomi, my beloved <3

[Anonymous No.7130698]

>>7130673
faces look goofy. eyes are too big and not properly spaced

[Anonymous No.7130700]

I'm not good enough to be able to draw for fun

[Anonymous No.7130706]

>>7130657
you'd be wasting your time going greyscale to color, because you'll need to separate and go over individual parts anyway, unless you're going for a super edgy stylized look where you just add a single color.
also, when edge separation isn't clean enough or you haven't used a black outline, you'll be spending more time on cleaning edges.
also, reflected light with f you up.
just start with color and things will work out

[Anonymous No.7130712]

>>7130390
the goal shouldn't be to draw human figure for the sake of human figure. you need to tell a story. give them character. let them do something. with that direction, you can look for references and make corrections.

[Anonymous No.7130722]

>>7130516
I weep

[Anonymous No.7130723]

[Anonymous No.7130731]

Haven’t drawn in a while. Don’t have photoshop any more, so I’m using paint from now on. Not having layers is a challenge

[Anonymous No.7130732]

>>7130467
what?

[Anonymous No.7130733]

>>7129313
>everyone worse than me is a talentless subhuman
>everyone better than me are gods gifted with genes, level of which I will never achieve

[Anonymous No.7130739]

>>7130733
>everyone better than me is a permabeg

[Anonymous No.7130747]

>>7130733
>make a bad artwork
>want to kill myself
>make a good artwork
>feel good for a little while
>draw.mp4
>sketch doesn't look as good as a somewhat finished & refined drawing
>want to kill myself and quit

[Anonymous No.7130755]

>>7130747
>sketch doesn't look as good as a somewhat finished & refined drawing
Yeah no shit Sherlock. Now get over yourself already and get back to drawing.

[Anonymous No.7130760]

>>7129313
Choose yuor character :)

[Anonymous No.7130763]

>>7130486
you have single-handedly convinced me not to ever copy bridgeman because of this drawing

[Anonymous No.7130781]

[Anonymous No.7130803]

>>7130781
Coping and analyzing is a good way to learn. This anon get it.

[Anonymous No.7130810]

>>7130731
There's a lot of free and cheap software out there, though.
Also give blog please

[Anonymous No.7130816]

>>7130731
yeah i like this. give me color and light/shadow tips

[Anonymous No.7130817]

>>7130781
>nodlc
did you have to remind me you fucking asshole

[Anonymous No.7130822]

>>7130473

[Anonymous No.7130834]

>>7130817
they ran off with the money brother

[Anonymous No.7130846]

>>7130516
This is a tragedy.

[Anonymous No.7130848]

>>7130637
>As you can see it is irredeemably permabeg
Nope, it's moderately appealing and appeal > all. At least for social media

[Anonymous No.7130863]

>>7130697
>Hitomi
Who?
>>7130848
>Appeal
Legit cope

[Anonymous No.7130867]

[Anonymous No.7130872]

>>7130493
Have an example?

[Anonymous No.7130873]

>>7129313
>Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
>New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
>w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view
So which of these 4 links should I click if I am a complete beginner

[Anonymous No.7130875]

>>7130873
https://youtu.be/K5AV42mgAe0?t=124

[Anonymous No.7130879]

>>7130875
I'll follow that video and if I haven't learnt how to draw by then I will return here to complain.

[Anonymous No.7130889]

how do i make the colors pop more?

[Anonymous No.7130900]

>>7130889
give the poor man some hair.

[Anonymous No.7130901]

Anyone happen to have real good resources on drawing eyes?

Preferably more anime cartoony eyes?

[Anonymous No.7130902]

>feel good about my art
>decide to post it somewhere
>quite literally everyone mogs the shit out of me
>delete it and go to deviantart and laugh at permabeg subhumans instead

>>7130901
just repeatedly steal from your favorite tranime artists, it's that easy

[Anonymous No.7130924]

>>7130879
we will await your return

[Anonymous No.7130927]

>>7130902
On that note, anyone happen to have any artbooks by Yusuke Murata in PDF form?
Preferably with a direct link.

[Anonymous No.7130929]

>>7129313
how the FUCK do I draw a pelvis? most annoying bodypart to get right in my opinion, stupid butterfly shaped thing

[Anonymous No.7130933]

>>7130901
use the ref sheet of a show you like
http://setteidreams.net/

[Anonymous No.7130939]

>>7130694
twitter.com/Fanda_Channel

[Anonymous No.7130941]

>>7130933
>http://setteidreams.net/

Thanks!

[Anonymous No.7130942]

Alright fellas I'm basically high /int/ now

[Anonymous No.7130956]

>>7130929
trapezoid

[Anonymous No.7130963]

>>7130929
boxes and copy your favorite hentai artist

[Anonymous No.7130979]

Daily practice of today using reference.

[Anonymous No.7130980]

elfen mongrel getting "his" balls wrecked :3

[Anonymous No.7130987]

>>7130980
kill yourself in the most violent way you can think of

[Anonymous No.7130988]

>>7130987
>in the most violent way you can think of
Would the situation illustrated in my drawing be a decent candidate?

[Anonymous No.7130989]

>>7129313
How did i do? finally feel like im improving a little bit

[Anonymous No.7130999]

>>7130989
Mogs me

[Anonymous No.7131002]

>>7130999
if it makes you feel better this took me a few hours and i cant draw bodies for shit

[Anonymous No.7131012]

>>7130390
>it is like there is some fundamental approach to figgies i am missing.
>drawing in a vacuum is rather pointless
You answered your own question.
>>7130635
Set goals based on time rather than achievements. Like “study x for 30 mins a day” instead of “learn to draw x” and do it until you feel like you’ve learned something, then try something different if you want. You’ll learn something if you put in the time and will be able to break the overall goal down into smaller steps more easily.
>>7130676
I think you’d get more at your level by doing focused anatomy studies and then when doing copies of figures like this focus on getting the gesture/pose right. It’ll be easier to copy more accurately that way since you’ll learn to see both the overall flow and smaller details by doing so.

[Anonymous No.7131014]

>>7130424
G-Pen, japs use it so its be le good

[Anonymous No.7131015]

>>7130942
mogs pawell desu

[Anonymous No.7131070]

[Anonymous No.7131088]

Holy fuck just IMAGINE not having fun with a pencil. Could not be me. NGMIs in this thread will never reach my level

[Anonymous No.7131091]

Heads are from imagination trying to use Huston method. They look a bit better than usual I think.

[Anonymous No.7131093]

>>7131088
symbol drawing + proportions are off + perspective wrong + not feeling the form + no appeal

[Anonymous No.7131095]

>>7131093
Ermmmmmmmm + L + ratio you forgot that part

[Anonymous No.7131098]

[Anonymous No.7131109]

>>7130732
I thought it was a cute twink

[Anonymous No.7131168]

[Anonymous No.7131225]

>>7131091
No, you are supposed to draw anime faces and draw the bodies with the Huston method.

[Anonymous No.7131227]

Sup beg

>>7130989
hair has flat / wrong shading, ear is too close to eye
>>7130760
cute animals
>>7130731
i kneel + use krita
>>7130712
oh i have long term plans, it is just so many resources outright say the only way forward is mastering figgies and even in many art schools the students do NOTHING else but grind figgies for few years
>>7130690
that face reminds me of naruto
>>7130673
cute thot
>>7130671
there is a space between hips and ribcage, you forgot that part
>>7130669
bad hand grip on that pole, you would see only fingers and thumb would wrap it from under. use your own hand as ref
>>7130635
less thinking, more drawing
>>7130589
it kinda looks like you gave up in middle?
>>7130576
CUTE
>>7130568
that goofy rabbit is 10/10, would pet
>>7130512
you hit diminishing returns hard. move to the next painting
>>7130440
you can filter my slop by book, but i dont see how it could be helpful comparing mine to yours?
https://pawell2418.github.io/p/468.jpg

[Anonymous No.7131239]

Almost done inking! Then, onto the grueling painting process, which I’m even worse at

[Anonymous No.7131240]

>>7131239
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.7131242]

Cracks me up every time

[Anonymous No.7131244]

>>7131227
>less thinking, more drawing
There you have it folx! For everyone asking why pawell does this or that yet he's still beg - it's because of this philosophy. No think, just mindless copies for years

[Anonymous No.7131247]

>>7131242
The feel is reel

[Anonymous No.7131256]

>>7130822

[Anonymous No.7131288]

>>7131227
>you hit diminishing returns hard.
does this mean i made it worse? im not familiar with this phrase

[Anonymous No.7131290]

>>7131244
I mean I kinda get what he's trying to say.
At the same time I'm starting to think it's poor advice for begs.

[Anonymous No.7131292]

>>7130424
anyone?

[Anonymous No.7131294]

>>7130424
>>7131292
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1702962

[Anonymous No.7131298]

>>7131256
inoue study

[Anonymous No.7131336]

>>7131109
it is

[Anonymous No.7131340]

I think it's looking less like chicken scratch now

[Anonymous No.7131368]

>>7130810
>>7131227
>>7130816
thanks

[Anonymous No.7131375]

[Anonymous No.7131378]

[Anonymous No.7131392]

Wow, I was a lot better at studies with pencil and paper, I can already tell my Sonic has brain damage
For others who have gone from paper to digital, how long did it take you to adjust?

[Anonymous No.7131393]

MR BORRELLI

[Anonymous No.7131401]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkKuB-L-tz8

[Anonymous No.7131402]

>>7131012
>>>7130676
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.7131403]

[Anonymous No.7131405]

>>7131375

[Anonymous No.7131406]

Couldn't do too much erasing

[Anonymous No.7131411]

>>7131406
85 years, damn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNIIoMuVVpc

[Anonymous No.7131412]

>>7131392
Use a less hideous brush bro. Any default brush with opacity variation is good enough.

>how long did it take you to adjust?
A week, approximately. Pen tablet.

>>7131401
>>7131403
>>7131406
Blog?

[Anonymous No.7131427]

>>7131405
Most anime fans draw the shadows of the nose from the frontal angle.

Very close on the forearm foreshortening. The parts near the wrist would be less curved.

[Anonymous No.7131432]

>>7131412
>Use a less hideous brush bro. Any default brush with opacity variation is good enough.
It doesn't help that I didn't turn on support for my tablet's pressure opacity in GIMP kek

[Anonymous No.7131453]

Tonight's shitty sketch. ROPE.

[Anonymous No.7131472]

>>7131453
dangerous

[Anonymous No.7131474]

>>7130889
i advise you to look into contrast
the plane changes can barely be seen

[Anonymous No.7131484]

Is learning perspective and construction the most important part of learning to draw somewhat "freely"?

[Anonymous No.7131487]

G-Gokubros??

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7131490]

>>7131227
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.7131492]

>>7131484
>most important
no. construction + perspective is important, but more important is observation + dexterity.

It's like, construction is a boxer's technique, and observation is their sheer muscular mass + force output + speed

[Anonymous No.7131496]

>>7131240
im still very much a beg, but maybe try a much lighter line weight for the background? i know you're going on to painting, but seems like it would help make the characters stand out a bit more

[Anonymous No.7131499]

>>7131492
This is some of the most retarded analogies I have ever read.
pyw.

[Anonymous No.7131511]

>>7131432
>in GIMP
Why would you ever torture yourself like this? Krita is right there, if you want a free option.

[Anonymous No.7131514]

>>7129313
Should I start by just copying the artist I like as a complete beginner who has basically never drawn (even doodles)? Or multiple artists even? I have a general idea of how I want my drawings to look, and I know I will have to pick up fundies eventually (hopefully later though), but I don't want to be a complete copycat either.

[Anonymous No.7131517]

>>7131511
Is it that much better? I've used GIMP for typical image editing for years and didn't want to learn a new interface

[Anonymous No.7131518]

>>7131496
Yeah, this is a very obvious problem. I think I’m going to try Lowe ing the opacity of the background ound inks a bit to if that helps before the winking the whole bg. Failing that, I might go lineless for the bg when I get to adding value and color.

Thanks for the feedback!

[Anonymous No.7131519]

Help me I don't know what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.7131521]

>>7131518
*re-inking, etc. sorry, fat fingered the shit out of that reply

[Anonymous No.7131522]

Putting references on a grid to aid with measuring, yea or nay? Should I just practice eyeballing it?

[Anonymous No.7131527]

>>7131522

[Anonymous No.7131544]

>>7131288
Not him but diminishing returns means that as you put more into something it gradually becomes more and more work to get any noticable improvement. Putting it another way, the first hour you make a ton of progress, the next hour you make less, less than that the next hour and so on and so on. In your case, hes saying that your not improving the art all that much at this point and you would get more out of starting another piece even if you put the same amount of effort in.

[Anonymous No.7131553]

>>7131522
Using a grid will often become a crutch and will weaken your observation skills, so use it with caution. First attempt it without a grid, then use it to check where you went wrong, turn it off and fix your mistakes. This is so you can identify your mistakes and fix them, that's how you actually learn something. You may find you make the same kind of measuring mistake every time, like always making everything too long, so then you can deliberately practice that weakness.
There a lots of ways to measure without a grid too, having all of these in your tool belt is much better than having to rely on a grid.

[Anonymous No.7131554]

>>7131553
This one is good too.

[Anonymous No.7131559]

>>7131553
Ah yes, the swastika method

[Anonymous No.7131562]

[Anonymous No.7131564]

>>7131554
this is actually a godsend for what i’m studying right now. thanks man

[Anonymous No.7131565]

How do I get familiarized with digital drawing as quick as possible

[Anonymous No.7131567]

:]

[Anonymous No.7131572]

>>7131565
by drawing more and watching some tutorials

[Anonymous No.7131582]

>have to remember where I left off with LOOMIS
oh god I don't want to redraw the cartoon heads noo

[Anonymous No.7131586]

It hasn't even begun..

[Anonymous No.7131588]

>>7131586
whats this

[Anonymous No.7131590]

>>7130872
Late reply but I guess something like this

[Anonymous No.7131591]

>>7131588
my genes, they are trash

[Anonymous No.7131641]

thread is really slow today, hope everyone is drawing lots of cool stuff

[Anonymous No.7131660]

>try to copy a ref
>mfw I'm mentally exhausted after 30 minutes
I will never make it, I'm unironically too much of a brainlet
how can people do this for several hours

[Anonymous No.7131672]

>>7131519
mogs me

[Anonymous No.7131692]

>>7131660
You are not used to it, so it is exhausting. Try keeping up with it and it will become easier. Also breaking things down to simple shapes help. Also don't try to copy everything perfectly, but most important parts.

[Anonymous No.7131725]

>>7131660
start small and simple. when you're picking out a ref or once you have one picked out, think about what you could study in 30 minutes (since that seems to be your limit right now). or, instead of trying to copy the whole thing, pick out a smaller chunk of the image that you can focus on. you can start bumping up the time once you get the hang of it.

[Anonymous No.7131731]

>>7131660
autism

[Anonymous No.7131733]

>>7131427

[Anonymous No.7131815]

>>7131544
makes sense, thanks

[Anonymous No.7131827]

>>7131453
Why is my shit so flat?

[Anonymous No.7131928]

[Anonymous No.7132582]

[Anonymous No.7132927]

>>7129313
Here's my first attempt at construction using forms (spheres, cylinders, cubes/prisms, etc.).

Is it really this simple to do? Video related.

[Anonymous No.7133089]

>>7131453
Your are drawing the face from the easiest angle.

That's okay. Drawing the face is the hardest shit on the planet to draw. It filtered me and prevented me from drawing for years.

Please listen to me: I want you to trace 20 faces from different angles right now, and then reference them after you are done tracing.