/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.7104690]

Basic 3d shapes like this completely filtered me.

[Anonymous No.7104697]

Just practice more.

[Anonymous No.7104703]

it's your control over creating lines/curves

[Anonymous No.7104713]

>>7104703
I don't know if it's that. My lines on their own are ok. I think my vision is just fucked up so I can't really see very well if lines are converging well, and I can't gauge proportion well.

[Anonymous No.7104733]

>>7104713
Draw a horizon and use vanishing points. Use a ruler. It's common for beginners to have strange divergent lines. Trace some too and try redraw from memory. It takes time to see, and even after years your brain will still trick you from time to time.

[Anonymous No.7104737]

>>7104690
Same here. If I could overcome that hurdle, I think everything else would fall into place pretty rapidly, but it doesn't seem like that's going to be happening anytime soon.

>>7104697
I don't really understand what I should even be trying to do, which makes it difficult to practice effectively. I'm not so much trying to get better at drawing those forms as I am trying to discover the theory behind it through trial-and-error. If I had an actual functional process to refine or could tell what I was doing wrong and could work to correct it, then this would be a lot less frustrating.

>>7104703
I can place lines where I want them. The trouble is that I want to put lines in the wrong places. I have a really hard time determining what parts of an object's surface should be represented with lines.

[Anonymous No.7104740]

>>7104737
Read the page you posted. "If you are having a difficult time..."

[Anonymous No.7104753]

>>7104740
Scott Robertson was too hard for me

[Anonymous No.7104756]

>>7104737
post your simple forms.

[Anonymous No.7104766]

>>7104690
damn those seem useful to learn to draw.
my /beg/ pipeline has been Eviston -> Bridgman but most of the Vilppu stuff I see looks more helpful

[Anonymous No.7104768]

>>7104690
try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5AV42mgAe0

[Anonymous No.7104769]

>>7104713
You can start seeing better by paying attention to your full field of vision including peripheral vision and feeling how much space is actually around you and between things. If you get tunnel vision like most people addicted to the internet these days you lose the forest for the trees. Unless you actually have some brain damage that causes you to bump into things nonstop and not be able to navigate space at all you are capable of understanding 3D shapes/space since your brain already subconsciously processes it just fine.

[Anonymous No.7104772]

>>7104769
I don't know, my ability to measure angles is pretty bad

[Anonymous No.7104793]

>>7104690
Take a Rubik's cube and play around with it, look at it from different angles and see how it changes when you move it around. Do it with other objects too. Take putty or plasticine or a kneaded eraser and mold it into geometric shapes, observe and try to understand what you're looking at. Then try to draw them.
As for perspective it's best not to overthink it, not to shill but the recent proko video on perspective has a great rundown on it.

[Anonymous No.7104796]

>>7104793
I've groped many women, but still cannot into figure drawing. Your method sucks.

[Anonymous No.7104809]

just go slow anon like this

[Anonymous No.7104825]

>>7104690
draw on a perspective grid for while

[Anonymous No.7104891]

>>7104768
If thats your 30 day progress, talent is real

[Anonymous No.7106265]

>>7104753
Try again.

[Anonymous No.7106336]

>>7104690
This is the problem with this board. You could have put in genuine effort and just need a guiding hand or you could be another tourist who spent an hour on an exercise most artist spend their whole lives mastering and gave up when you're not immediately great at it. I hate Reddit's "wow good job! Keep it up" attitude. But at least people post their work and give you an idea of what their doing and what their progress is. Ironically the image board is the place where the "I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas" people go.

[Anonymous No.7106393]

>>7104891
no, I just did them in a single day, as practice
I think they'd help with what OP is struggling with

[Anonymous No.7106503]

>>7106336
No, I attempting to grind this stuff daily but it didn't really pay off. I'm not talking about "great" I'm talking about getting a grasp of the MOST BASIC FUCKING SHIT

[Anonymous No.7106512]

>grind thousands of chess.cum matches
>still shit
>draw thousands of boxes
>still shit
>play paino scales thousands of times
>still shit
Learning things by grinding and trial and error is the worst, least efficient way to do things. You need to find someone to teach you. In person is best, books are fine.

[Anonymous No.7106541]

>>7106512
>draw thousands of boxes
>attain professional level art
Worked for me. God I bet you wish you had my talent

[Anonymous No.7106547]

>>7106541
Post your work.

[Anonymous No.7106561]

>>7106547
BOOM.

[Anonymous No.7106566]

>>7106561
Let's see that same box foreshortened in three point perspective.

[Anonymous No.7106668]

>>7106566
This. It's easy to just memorize and grind one box. Rotations are the hard shit.

[Anonymous No.7107408]

>>7106668
Fear not the man that has drawn 10,000 boxes one time.
Fear the man that has drawn one box 10,000 times.

[Anonymous No.7107499]

>>7106503
Properly portraying and manipulating 3D objects on a 2D page is not the most basic fucking thing.

[Anonymous No.7107564]

>>7107499
Anons here insist that it is though.

[Anonymous No.7107635]

>>7106541
>mikufag

[Anonymous No.7108483]

>>7104690
3D? It's just few extra lines

[Anonymous No.7108870]

>>7108483
>just copied the lines
>still no form
whypipo cant draw

[Anonymous No.7108917]

>>7107635
>Raphiel
cringe as always

[Anonymous No.7109500]

>>7106541
>>7106566
>>7108917
>moeshart
Remove yourself at once, cretin.

[Anonymous No.7109510]

>>7109500
Most of the board wants to draw pic rel, but they keep getting filtered and blame their lack of asian genes kek

[Anonymous No.7109551]

>>7104690
This is nsfw, did you ask for their consent?

[Anonymous No.7109566]

>>7109510
>moesharts can't conjure a fraction of the power of CHADgon CHADS
As expected.

[Anonymous No.7111244]

>>7104766
Who the fuck is eviston

[Anonymous No.7111247]

>>7104690
I’ve never done any studies like this. Do you actually need to draw them yourself? Does it help more? I’ve always just stared at the books and tried to memorize the images. I’m probably somewhere in the low int range.

[Anonymous No.7111386]

>>7111247
I'm low int too, but I'm a beginner

[Anonymous No.7111572]

>>7111247
it's all about feeling the form

[Anonymous No.7112407]

>>7111247
>I’ve always just stared at the books and tried to memorize the images
yeah you're low INT alright