/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners General

[Anonymous No.7101267]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
e-hentai.org/tag/other:how+to
line-of-action.com
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific

Previous thread: >>7098681

[Anonymous No.7101270]

Please critique me on everything except subject matter.
>>7101200
wdym “eye bleach fill”? And noted about the unnecessary lines

[Anonymous No.7101272]

>>7101182
Check out hide channel, he applies Loomis etc. to anime characters of different types.

[Anonymous No.7101273]

I drew a tyrant

[Anonymous No.7101285]

What skillset/skill level do I need to quickly sketch people in public (cafe, museum, theatre, etc)?
is this gesture? croquis?

[Anonymous No.7101286]

>>7101273
you drew agent 47 cosplaying as a tyrant

[Anonymous No.7101289]

[Anonymous No.7101294]

Drawing I did last night

[Anonymous No.7101293]

>>7101285
It's called being really good at every area of drawing, then showing off your skills by quickly indicating forms that took you years and years to master.

[Anonymous No.7101298]

I’m looking forward to a week of continuing not to draw. How about you?

[Anonymous No.7101305]

[Anonymous No.7101307]

Excuse the toddler level drawing.
How long do you guys think it would take to get to meh level twitter artist level ? I just want to draw pictures osprey book style, depicting warriors etc in armor, more or less visualize certain things I have in my mind. I know I am ultra prebeg, but could I get to a okayish state in like a year ? Guess I could reference to what I had in mind as the level Id like to aspire to.

[Anonymous No.7101314]

Any book or something to draw armors?

[Anonymous No.7101319]

>>7101270
the obvious of better lineart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzgrOMCd380

[Anonymous No.7101322]

Alright so I may be delusional but I feel this is one of my better anatomy studies.

Mainly because I felt I got the width of her torso down nicely, and I feel I got the flow of her arms and legs down, even though the detail is a tad low and inconsistent.

Still can't do hands well.

No face because I wasn't really focusing on that so much.

I need to do more of these, I am trying to do at least one every day now.

[Anonymous No.7101328]

>>7101314
For real life pieces look at the website of the MET and other big museums, they have picture galleries of armors and weapons of their expositions.
Drawn stuff theres a lot.

[Anonymous No.7101334]

>>7101322
This looks far more cohesive and less flat than some of your previous stuff. Don’t worry about detail for now, just get the basic shapes and overall flow down and you can fill in the details later. Keep going and it’ll get easier.

[Anonymous No.7101336]

which one?

[Anonymous No.7101337]

just dropping this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTWrwrmnlwE

[Anonymous No.7101338]

>>7101307
Who knows, depends how hard you study. Honestly there is no point asking these questions, art is a long and hard journey filled with roadblocks. So you either draw because it's something you like regardless of how long it will take to make it or you have the mindset to go all in and grind you way through the failure.

[Anonymous No.7101339]

>>7101336
1 if its generic illustration
2 if youre gonna add a cool environment to use the extra atmosphere from more dramatic shadows

[Anonymous No.7101342]

>>7101334
I should mention that I spent a little longer than usual on it. And yeah it does feel neater, plus I am getting the hang of drawing breasts more accurately now.

[Anonymous No.7101345]

>>7101338
Yeah thats the thing, Id only like to have it as a sidehobby more or less to bring my ideas to paper more or less, auxilliary to my worldbuilding/writing. Guess Ill just have to grind. Its not like its not enjoyable, just doesnt consume me as much as other anons here. And I think I will lay off the loomis atm, just draw what I see.

[Anonymous No.7101349]

>>7101336
Left.

[Anonymous No.7101362]

>tfw its time for my bi-yearly "my art actually fucking sucks" psychosis
i hate this time of year

[Anonymous No.7101371]

I'm not sure what I'm actually learning from little bits of daily bridge man
doubt is creeping in

[Anonymous No.7101393]

>>7101294
BLOG

[Anonymous No.7101394]

>>7101371
do studies -> apply from imagination -> more studies -> more imagination

'tis common sense

[Anonymous No.7101398]

>>7101298
I'm still wondering if I should even continue trying

[Anonymous No.7101407]

>>7101394
how would I go about "applying" one of those copies to imagination?
make a copy, then draw a character over top of the framework?

[Anonymous No.7101422]

>>7101407
just draw whatever you want god damn.

make comics, animation, coom art, whatever

[Anonymous No.7101449]

good morning /beg/

[Anonymous No.7101450]

[Anonymous No.7101461]

>>7101267
You guys ever draw really disgusting looking bodies?

[Anonymous No.7101466]

>>7101461
Shame what happened to bodybuilding

[Anonymous No.7101467]

I'm trying to make my art-style a bit more stylized, made this as a little experiment. R8 and subscribe, thanks.

[Anonymous No.7101476]

>>7101461
>Disgusting bodies
I drew YOU and YO MAMA have meh-ish incest sex faggot. Fucking low test-womb fagtroon asking retarded qyestion. Want some friend? Go out side bitch.

[Anonymous No.7101480]

>>7101476
Austrian with a toupee detected

[Anonymous No.7101496]

>>7101267
New pose, compilation of last will follow

[Anonymous No.7101497]

Last one sucks use this one

[Anonymous No.7101501]

>>7101466
I think back then they didn't even run test, just dbol and some other stuff. And they still looked damn good.

[Anonymous No.7101502]

DrawACutie

[Anonymous No.7101503]

[Anonymous No.7101506]

>>7101497
Compilation of last threads one

[Anonymous No.7101508]

Random doodle
When i come back home i'll torture myself with heads

[Anonymous No.7101509]

>>7101508
Few more

[Anonymous No.7101510]

>>7101509

[Anonymous No.7101511]

What can I draw that's not a cube?

>t. nub

[Anonymous No.7101513]

>>7101511
Several cubes, cones and cylinders in one scene, adhering to appropriate vanishing points and lit by the same light source

[Anonymous No.7101517]

>>7101349
>>7101339
thanks for the responses. I'm going right. It feels more intimate.

[Anonymous No.7101519]

>>7101513
>more cubes

[Anonymous No.7101520]

>>7101519
You won't draw anything anyway.

[Anonymous No.7101524]

>>7101520
if you give me something that doesnt involve a cube and that is doable by a nub then I'll draw it

[Anonymous No.7101526]

>>7101524
>Several pyramids, cones and cylinders in one scene, adhering to appropriate vanishing points and lit by the same light source.

Also, >>7101520

[Anonymous No.7101532]

>>7101526
>im tired of drawing cubes, I want something else to draw
>LOLOL DRAW CONES (ebinly trolled)

[Anonymous No.7101534]

>>7101298
I drew lots this weekend and today is a holiday so I am going to draw more.
Still pretty shit but I can kinda shit out my kind of shit so it makes me feel a bit content because I feel like I can have fun drawing instead of painstakingly trying to draw even the simplest shit.

[Anonymous No.7101535]

>>7101532
>>7101520

[Anonymous No.7101539]

Tough pose.

[Anonymous No.7101542]

>>7101539
Also, I did the anatomy pretty much entirely from memory, so hopefully you guys can find some issues with it.

[Anonymous No.7101549]

>>7101535
ebin

[Anonymous No.7101550]

>>7101520

[Anonymous No.7101552]

who is pawell

[Anonymous No.7101554]

>>7101552
The very model of a modern permabeg, a Chris-Chan for the new age.

[Anonymous No.7101558]

>>7101449
also did some tomfox arms yesterday

[Anonymous No.7101559]

>>7101517
just be careful not to make the colors too muddy with values like that. make the contrast strongest on the tits if the face is in shadow otherwise there’s not really any strong focal point to catch people’s attention. you get more likes on this sort of thing when it’s easy to tell what to focus on so make sure the contrast is there.

[Anonymous No.7101565]

>>7101550

[Anonymous No.7101567]

>>7101559
Oh yeah, this is just the key light scheme, I will add more values later and balance them later

[Anonymous No.7101568]

Started reading Keys to Drawing. Forcing myself to forget perspective seems counterintuitive

[Anonymous No.7101570]

>>7101461
I'm told I do.

[Anonymous No.7101571]

>>7101554
how do you guys know him? did he just show up one day and say, "Hi, I'm Pawell" and consistently post his work which consistently demonstrated no improvement?

[Anonymous No.7101572]

>>7101466
You're delusional if you think these guys don't look great
>>7101461 this guy never won btw

[Anonymous No.7101574]

>>7101571
Pretty much. He always posts his name in the corner of his pic.

[Anonymous No.7101578]

>>7101552
A man who never gives up in the face of hardship and adversity. He is the black rider to all nodraw losers.

[Anonymous No.7101580]

>>7101572
They look like caricatures, something you would put in a sitcom for a 10 second gag.

[Anonymous No.7101582]

>>7100583
>this is why i am grinding figgies. i want to be free from that hell. at least for the bitch basic poses
Kek, what are you talking about. Why do you need to be able to draw from imagination? You don't do finished works period. You are just copying endless books with no goal, with no plan, with no purpose. You are not studying anything, just pumping out minimal effort bullshit. What did you honestly learn by drawing this? Why aren't you putting effort into copying properly? Why are you even still drawing and torture yourself every day if you put in the least amount of effort physically possible?

[Anonymous No.7101583]

HOW DO YOU DRAW SEMEN?

[Anonymous No.7101584]

>>7101583
Check your mouth for reference

[Anonymous No.7101587]

>>7101580
You are a jelly retard

[Anonymous No.7101593]

>>7101572
Honestly, would rather be healthy. I know for a fact all of them, including olympic champtions, take steroids and lean off before they need to take a urine test. Professional bodybuilding is a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.7101597]

Hey beg, here's a car

[Anonymous No.7101609]

>>7101597
cool car
seems too wobbly tho, train that line confidence

[Anonymous No.7101613]

[Anonymous No.7101618]

>>7101609
how do I train line confidence in digital tho? The stylus feels like ass compared to normal pencil

[Anonymous No.7101621]

>>7101618
You just need to draw longer lines instead of chicken scratching. You're probably zoomed in too much while drawing.

[Anonymous No.7101622]

>>7101593
Its the exercise that does them in not the roids. They train so much they get chronic injuries. That goes for many world class sports, kickboxing wrecks your hips and knees

[Anonymous No.7101624]

>>7101622
Holy fucking copium now that's a take

[Anonymous No.7101625]

I don't get Loomis at all.

[Anonymous No.7101630]

>>7101625
This is the best drawing I've done. I find FWAP completely impenetrable. How do you draw with lines and have things look solid? What the hell is he doing to make his drawing look like they have form without hatching in the inside? What the hell is the trick?

[Anonymous No.7101642]

>>7101630
the trick is he drew his entire life

[Anonymous No.7101644]

>>7101630
going by the way you shaded this and the constructions to the side how can you not understand loomis?
Also your proportions are off and that face is giving me the creeps

[Anonymous No.7101646]

>>7101642
>You have to draw your entire life to be able to apply depth to basic cartoon faces.
/ic/, the cradle of retardation

[Anonymous No.7101649]

>>7098709
>try to do some quick low effort sketch before the thread dies
>thread dies anyway
Don't like the result, the next one I'll do much better.

[Anonymous No.7101650]

>>7101644
>going by the way you shaded this and the constructions to the side how can you not understand loomis?
I don't know, it frustrates me so much I want to cry. The fact that I get filtered so much by the first part of a book for beginner is so demoralizing. I have no idea what to do.

[Anonymous No.7101655]

Seriously though should I just quit trying to learn if all it does is overwhelm me?

[Anonymous No.7101656]

>>7101630
you have a limited toolset to show form when working with lines only:
>T-overlaps
>line weight
>hatching
and out of those the first is the most important, imo

[Anonymous No.7101658]

>>7101655
Take it easy bro
Let go of the expectations of becoming a master artist overnight and just enjoy the ride

[Anonymous No.7101659]

>>7101650
FWAP is a beg trap, don't waste time on it if you don't like. What do you want to draw? Portraits? Figures? Draw them. Learn form. Read books and watch videos on how to draw what you want to draw. You don't have to go through niche 70 years old cartooning book in order to draw.

[Anonymous No.7101660]

>>7101655
If you're asking a bunch of strangers if you should quit a hobby then... yeah, as a matter of fact you should.

[Anonymous No.7101665]

>>7101659
>What do you want to draw?
I want to be able to go to animation school. Since you don't animate by hatching inside the things you're drawing but using lines I figured I would go with FWAP since it's based on the use of line.

[Anonymous No.7101667]

>>7101294
>>7101289
nice

[Anonymous No.7101670]

>>7101624
Yeah one look at Rich Piana's autopsy is gonna tell anyone the roids and HGH didn't do his internal organs any favours

[Anonymous No.7101677]

Why am I afraid to make a new drawing after having finished a good illustration?

[Anonymous No.7101681]

>>7101677
Do you play video games? People are often reluctant to start another game after dominating in CSGO or something, it's one symptom of ladder anxiety

[Anonymous No.7101682]

>>7101502

[Anonymous No.7101684]

i think i will stop to draw boring anime in white background

[Anonymous No.7101688]

>>7101682
Very cute!

[Anonymous No.7101689]

>>7101682
This is awesome, anon.
These fun, half-sketchy line drawings are my jam

[Anonymous No.7101690]

>>7101622
>>7101670
he wasnt even an IFBB pro bodybuilder you fucking retard, you dont know what you're talking about.
The bodyubuilding goat who was juiced up to the gills, ronnie coleman, is now using a wheelchair because he wrecked his spine training too hard despite his doctor telling him to stop. Chris bumstead 5 times mr olympia is now pretty much permanently injured but still competing.
If you look at every single mr olympia basically all of them are doing fine even the mass monster era guys, the worst cases are due to over-training. Dorian yates is 60 now.

[Anonymous No.7101693]

>>7101690
>a liver that contained numerous table tennis ball-sized tumors (with half the liver consisting simply of a crumbly mass that was similar to polystyrene)

>(Münzer's heart weighed 636g; a normal man's heart usually weighs 300–350g)

>Traces of about 20 different drugs were found, along with acute toxicity

Poor guy musta overtrained

[Anonymous No.7101696]

>>7101681
You are correct, everything to be the ladder anxiety, in my teenage years I was an "intense single game gamer".

[Anonymous No.7101698]

>>7101693
He was a retard that never won, who cares?
Also he wasn't know for being big, he was shredded, it's due to cutting weight which mma fighters and boxers suffer and die from too

[Anonymous No.7101699]

>>7101696
Well, what solved it in my case was to stop giving a fuck about rank

[Anonymous No.7101705]

>>7101689
>>7101688
Thanks - I also tried doing a more realistic face but I suck at capturing the appeal

[Anonymous No.7101706]

>>7101705
I'm definitely biased, but the stylized one looks much better. Not even in terms of technical execution, since realistic's good in that regard too, but just in general.

[Anonymous No.7101708]

Can I get critique on this rough draft?

[Anonymous No.7101709]

>>7101705
Well, the reference is wearing heavy makeup specifically to mimic a stylized anime eye look, and your realistic drawing has very little interest on the eyes.

[Anonymous No.7101711]

[Anonymous No.7101713]

>>7101708
very flat / needs structure

[Anonymous No.7101714]

>>7101407
>draw the Bridgman picture
>study it in whatever way makes it stick inside your head
>draw without looking at the picture
>compare to original Bridgman drawing to see how much it deviates
Being able to draw from imagination is basically a form of “free recall”(look it up)

[Anonymous No.7101716]

>>7101708
reframe it
>>7101713
stfu

[Anonymous No.7101717]

[Anonymous No.7101719]

>>7101708
personally I think the mouth and eyes are a little off? personal opinion though as you're clearly going for a style - here's my take trying to stay as close as yours

[Anonymous No.7101720]

>>7101717
Define those juicy pits, anon.

[Anonymous No.7101723]

>>7101693
Anyone want to draw Munzer's liver?

[Anonymous No.7101724]

the work continues

[Anonymous No.7101725]

>>7101716
Should i try to make a bit closer? the arm kinda looks awkward at that angle/distance
>>7101719
Thanks, Im trying to not copy artists this time around, you face a lot cleaner, im still a bit skeptical about the face overall but i think the shape itself is whats bothering me the most, I should flip it around like you did.

[Anonymous No.7101726]

>>7101497

[Anonymous No.7101732]

>>7101725
hmm no im just talking about the composition, there's this huge blank space behind her, it needs to be reframed
>>7101719
this one's "prettier" but it has less soul just imo

[Anonymous No.7101738]

day 2 of copying and memory drawing.

recently someone introduced me to this method of drawing, and this came out bad, but instead of bitching desu, I kinda had fun I laughed it off and just continued to draw.

On day 30 of copying and memory im probably going to include more drawings as these do take time, even though they look rushed.

Best case scenario. Thug that shit out and keep going.

[Anonymous No.7101741]

>>7101732
I made it a bit bigger and centered it. Still not sure how to solve that but it should look less awkward here.
Never thought about the composition, but thanks for noting it. ill keep it in mind from here on out.

[Anonymous No.7101742]

Laura

>>7101328
Thanks anon by the recommendation:]

[Anonymous No.7101745]

[Anonymous No.7101746]

>>7101738
this is me day 1 btw ^^

[Anonymous No.7101748]

>>7101630
>>7101625
I had/have the exact same problem which is that you understand 3D form theoretically but still haven’t learned how to *feel* it when looking at things. So start using your entire daily life to pay attention to all three dimensions around you and when you draw from life/photos and eventually it’ll click what he’s trying to explain to you. Vilppu also helps. Don’t give up, you just need to learn how to see in a new way which will happen if you don’t give up on trying new things.

[Anonymous No.7101751]

[Anonymous No.7101757]

>>7101738
Are you remembering to compare these to the original? It’ll help if you write down some points underneath on what you got wrong and then do a second round with the same ref keeping those things in mind.

[Anonymous No.7101761]

>>7101757
noted

[Anonymous No.7101772]

>>7101738
try doing it multiple times, to correct yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj0lSGVgH3w

[Anonymous No.7101775]

>>7101539
I'd definitely recommend watching videos of good golf swings, and trying to draw some paused poses off to the side. Identify what makes a good golf swing good, and be sure to include it in your drawing.

Most of my corrections were based in the power needed for a good swing, meaning planted feet, and a swift follow through. [spoiler] I'll have to use a ref next time too lmao

[Anonymous No.7101777]

>>7101775
>not spoiled
gonna kms

[Anonymous No.7101787]

>>7101757
>>7101772

[Anonymous No.7101788]

>>7101582
Noooo brooo you don't understand he just has to find the right book to copy in its entirety and it will all click together and he will be able to draw like a pro!!!!!

[Anonymous No.7101789]

What do you call the kind of hair texture katara from TLA has? Its not really stragit but its not curly either

[Anonymous No.7101790]

I like penguins

[Anonymous No.7101792]

[Anonymous No.7101801]

>>7101738
This is a good odea - but you should probably try constructing the drawings in both
it looks like you are just doing contours - and drawing things as you see them
try breaking up the underlying shapes using construction to help guide you and then build up on them

[Anonymous No.7101802]

>>7101790
Now draw them fucking her

[Anonymous No.7101803]

>>7101801
Doing keys to drawing that's why I did the contour drawings. but I'll experiment with this

ty!

[Anonymous No.7101804]

>>7101775
Great redline, much appreciated. I definitely did lose some of the gesture when adding the forms on top, especially with her back leg and foot and the twist of her ribcage.

Just so you know, the way you drew the arms, club and face is more indicative of a different shot type. Your figure hit a high draw, mine hit a lower and straighter shot. I think they're both valid, although yours certainly looks more dynamic.

[Anonymous No.7101806]

>>7101802

[Anonymous No.7101808]

>>7101789
Wavy?

[Anonymous No.7101811]

>>7101270

[Anonymous No.7101813]

>>7101790
>>7101802
based furry on human tag enjoyer

[Anonymous No.7101816]

was gooning to roblox porn last night desu

[Anonymous No.7101820]

>>7101816
seek jesus, repent, resist your wordly urges.

[Anonymous No.7101832]

>>7101816
>roblox porn
Does roblox even have enough characters for porn or is it just streamers having gay sex for eight pages

[Anonymous No.7101833]

>>7101820
>AI slop
Jesus is dissapointed in you anon

[Anonymous No.7101837]

>>7101748
Do you have anymore advice regarding what I should do? I'm so tired of not getting anywhere. How was it for you when you started to improve?

[Anonymous No.7101838]

>>7101741
Yes it's better but the composition is still unbalanced, it's left-heavy
You made me realize that sometimes cropping isn't enough, you have to buckle down and draw something that's beyond the frame to balance out the composition

[Anonymous No.7101863]

>>7101820
too freaaky for that

>>7101832
i was joking but actually, roblox porn just consists of people putting boobs and dicks on their own avatars and making them fuck like barbie dolls

[Anonymous No.7101885]

I did some refs itt

[Anonymous No.7101893]

>>7101270
>wdym “eye bleach fill”?
I'm talking about missing texture color background

[Anonymous No.7101958]

>>7101502
>>7101682
>>7101711
>>7101885

[Anonymous No.7101967]

>>7101502
i love bunny girls.

[Anonymous No.7101985]

>zoom in on my digital drawing
>all of a sudden feel the form
huh?

[Anonymous No.7101992]

drugs that enhance your drawing besides caffeine/adderall/nicotine?

[Anonymous No.7101994]

>>7101804
I see, thank you! I'm definitely not a golfer haha

[Anonymous No.7102004]

>>7101992
weed

[Anonymous No.7102011]

>>7101992
Weed gave me the biggest breakthrough

[Anonymous No.7102072]

Sup beg, back to the beg basics. cant say i mastered them, so repetition cannot hurt

>>7101832
very nice
>>7101816
this is also nice, i like the most the bright 1 pixel wide "outline" before real outline effect
>>7101684
but what will you draw instead?
>>7101655
just pick up easier material to go through first. drawing for the utter beginner book is the easiest shit ever i can recc
>>7101625
there is a good reason why i rated it as worst art book ever
>>7101613
i would kneel if you didnt use prerendered scene / photo filter. though it still looks visually very interesting
>>7101597
nice trabant
>>7101582
>>7100775
why am i the only anon who gets this sort of hate mail? why does nobody hate on anons who do the same anime girl in a vacuum 99 times in a row? Or the bug or teddy bear or horse anons? The plan is extremely simple: i cannot ever be a drawer without somewhat solid ability to shit out figures like all other INTs here do. And every single material out there says the same thing: you learn it only by drawing SHITTON of figures. So thats what i am doing
>What did you honestly learn by drawing this?
figures, hopefully
>>7101570
i kneel + coom. bonus points for drawing non standard figure
>>7101568
where does the book tell you to forget perspective?
>>7101467
the fur needs a bit more sharp edges to suggest fur instead of wobbly skin
>>7101362
if you are suffering reoccurring periodic "diseases", check your surroundings. farms with pesticides, sun giving you D which you lacked whole winter, yearly vaccine routes and so on. shit isnt normal anon
>>7101336
why not both? make one evil twin sister
>>7101270
background more intensive than main objects, both heads are terribly wrong, even for anime standards, you arent using references and it heavily shows

[Anonymous No.7102076]

>Ignored by Pawell
Welp...

[Anonymous No.7102080]

>>7102072
>why do people like anime girl in a void more

bro just look at your image, 0 human forms at all

[Anonymous No.7102083]

>>7102076
that means you're GMI

[Anonymous No.7102084]

>>7102072
I just noticed the schizo shit at the top. What the FUCK is that?

[Anonymous No.7102085]

>>7101294
draw NTR please

[Anonymous No.7102086]

>>7102072
Pawell do you think your copies are anywhere near accurate? Focus on each drawing instead of just rushing to fill a canvas for all to mock

[Anonymous No.7102102]

>>7101267
Alright, I actually need advice with something.
So whenever I draw something, I try to find a reference photo with a similar pose and proportions to what I have in mind, but what do you do if you can't find a reference photo for the pose you want to draw?
Like if the angle is super extreme (super low/high POV), or the proportions you want to draw are so unrealistic that no reference photo has what you want?
Right now I try to draw it from imagination when that happens, and it ends up looking pretty mediocre because of it.

[Anonymous No.7102113]

>>7102072
Join us at do art daily Pawell, you can get art advice by ints who post their work there (and also you know who they are so it's not with the intent of crabbing and giving you shit for no reason)
You are a hilarious mfer and would be welcomed to our community

[Anonymous No.7102118]

>>7102102
This is where using construction is advantageous

[Anonymous No.7102121]

>>7102113
what's stopping you from giving your /int/ crit here and now?

[Anonymous No.7102126]

i wonder if ic will like these fat snake titties im painting

[Anonymous No.7102136]

>>7101992
Mathematicians eat a bit of chocolate before they get to work, probably helps to otherwise have a low sugar diet

[Anonymous No.7102137]

>>7102121
I'm one of the begs there who asks the ints for advice obviously

[Anonymous No.7102142]

>>7102102
Just... gesture and construction?

[Anonymous No.7102144]

Is there a reason my lines comes in wavy like this? Do I just need practice or am I holding the pen fundamentally wrong?

[Anonymous No.7102146]

>>7102126
>humble brag posting in /beg/
get out

[Anonymous No.7102150]

>>7102146
>that beg
>humblebragging

based permabeg

[Anonymous No.7102152]

>>7102126
based renderCHAD

[Anonymous No.7102153]

>>7101502
hair hard

>>7102146
>/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners General

[Anonymous No.7102154]

>>7102150
I'll keep staying bad if it means I keep getting paid and getting your attention, babe.

[Anonymous No.7102157]

>>7102154
there are people paying for farts in a jar, you don't need to be that proud sweaty

[Anonymous No.7102162]

>>7102157
They're probably hot women, lmk how I can unlock this money cheatcode please

[Anonymous No.7102167]

>>7102072
reminder to FUCKING STOP GIVING ADVICE

[Anonymous No.7102172]

>>7102162
>They're probably hot women

[Anonymous No.7102175]

>>7102172
This is retarded, why do people pay for this again?What kind of genjutsu magic did they do to trick them into doing this?

[Anonymous No.7102180]

How often should I be using references? I feel like I'm too reliant on them to make literally anything outside shitty sketches, but on the other hand I heard literally every artist regardless of skill uses them

[Anonymous No.7102183]

>>7102180
Always use reference
In fact use a whole moodboard of references

[Anonymous No.7102198]

>>7102183
I've been drawing on and off for years and have constantly used references, I can make decent imitations like pic related but anything original I make looks like shit
Maybe I'm just retarded and don't know how to learn properly

[Anonymous No.7102199]

>>7101837
It’s hard to put into words since it’s like gaining an entire new sense, but once you see it you can’t unsee it.
What helped me was doing lots of figure drawing while doing all the following:
Try to be aware of all your body parts’ positioning in space at all times in your waking life (as much as possible), then try to expand that awareness beyond yourself in all directions. Imagine you’re the air wrapping around all objects from all directions around them.
If you look at a box or similar object, you can easily identify planes for the three dimensions from the faces of the box. Try to feel those planes expand to the rest of the space around you and pay attention to each dimension. What’s the relationship between different objects around you? You can move up/down, left/right, and forward/backward. Move along one dimension at a time (with your eyes) between objects to really feel which combination of dimensions separates them. Do this with body parts when drawing figures to see what direction they move in from one other.
Watch Vilppu videos to see how he feels the form while drawing and try doing a bunch of figure drawing doing the same thing. Try to feel around the body of the figure and draw the parts you can’t see by drawing lines that wrap around each body part like a wireframe.
From >>7101630 it seems like you can see value. Realize that value is just the result of how light moves through space and interacts with form. Try visualizing the path of that light and how the shape of the object affects how much light reaches different parts. Also pay attention to this in your everyday life and when drawing.
I’m also reading Force: Dynamic Life Drawing for Animators now and it has some exercises that might help, like imagining yourself being the size of an ant and flying on a plane around the model, who is gigantic compared to you. You travel over the body like it’s a landscape with hills and valleys. He talks about >>7101656 too.

[Anonymous No.7102202]

>>7102126
>attention whore
fuck you Subi
>>7102153
fuck you Whiff

[Anonymous No.7102203]

>>7102172
ちょっと太っちゃったかな?wwwww

[Anonymous No.7102214]

>>7102113
lmao. im in a discord with him, and safe to say literally everyone there, ints, pros, begs, has stopped wasting time giving this failure 'advice'. anything he doesn't want to hear is immediately ignored.
he won't listen, ever. its the same case as with every permabeg - arrogance, stubborness, blindness.

[Anonymous No.7102216]

>>7102072
Be more careful with the skeletons. Are you doing any construction for them? It’s not really possible to do a good job on them without laying in basic shapes first

[Anonymous No.7102218]

>>7102214
Ummmmm that isn’t pawell sweetie…

[Anonymous No.7102223]

man do I need to make a fucking Pinterest account to keep track of inspirations?
I've spent half my life refusing to make an account just because they try so hard to force me to. but some stuff I'm finding is only on there.

[Anonymous No.7102224]

>>7101502

[Anonymous No.7102225]

>>7102218
no fucking shit. im just posting yet another /ic/ permabeg with literally the same mental problems.

[Anonymous No.7102236]

[Anonymous No.7102267]

what's a good way to practice the shoulders?

[Anonymous No.7102270]

>>7102180
Use references but use it to figure drawing

[Anonymous No.7102271]

>>7102214
>crit my work
>No! Go read keys!
>but could you crit though!
>NO! MUTED!!!
Kek, discord trannies are something else

[Anonymous No.7102272]

>>7102270
>He use AI slop as refs
LMAO

[Anonymous No.7102273]

>>7102271
Powertripping faggots are the worst.

[Anonymous No.7102275]

>>7102270
>copying ai
lmao

[Anonymous No.7102277]

>>7102272
everybody knows that AI ARE THE ONLY GODTIER DRAWGODS, only permabegs and crabs seethe to AICHADS and their MASTERPIECES.

[Anonymous No.7102280]

>>7102270
>>7102277
genuinely ngmi

[Anonymous No.7102295]

had an emo permabeg moment so i doodled some sheep (?) boys to cope
if wageslavery doesn't suck me too dry tomorrow i'll stop being lazy and study heads/a proko anatomy vid tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.7102296]

>>7102214
both seem like retarded faggots in that screenshot, I don't know why so many artroons come off as borderline autistic

[Anonymous No.7102301]

>>7102295
gestures also feel like a scam. it's as if the more i do them, the worse i get, and i'm really not sure why kek

[Anonymous No.7102303]

>>7102280
POST YOUR non AI figure drawing PERMABEG jealous crab!

[Anonymous No.7102309]

>>7101502
diamonds

>>7101682
Appreciate the harshness of this one

>>7101958
Would, also would like to see some more care for some of those strokes

>>7101967
When you learn some observation skills, check mike matessi's book on gesture and cross reference with other books on the subject. there's a lot of depth to be had.

>>7102153
The hair on this model gets me diamonds, very fun. Look for shapes in the hair, it'll provide more interest (sexo) to the drawing

>>7102224
BIG TITTIES

[Anonymous No.7102312]

>>7102270
>>7102303
>She think that her "art" look GOOD
LMAO. I take tgat you are too dumb to prompt :)

[Anonymous No.7102319]

>>7102312
>she

[Anonymous No.7102324]

>>7102301
this is exactly what I say all the time. Gesture is actually the worst thing that art teachers have ever peddled. Fucking Vilppu and Hampton and Michael """Force""" Mattesi. Total snakeoil

[Anonymous No.7102328]

>>7102312
>She
Dont ever assume my gender ngmi permachudder

[Anonymous No.7102333]

>>7102324
>>7102301
Gesture is NOT a scam, it just isn't a fundamental or beg friendly skill. It's too nebulous and subtle to throw at someone who is still trying to learn the basics. If you're a beg, I don't think you should make gesture your primary focus.

[Anonymous No.7102334]

>>7102324
It's starting with gesture that tends to start a lot of problems. Most people starting off drawing completely forego any observation skills and it seriously hurts them. It's not those books you mentioned are snakeoil. They teach what they do pretty well but they don't teach observation. So of course you're just hard filtered because you don't know how to compare the position of one coordinate relative to another.

>>7102333
pretty much

[Anonymous No.7102348]

>>7102324
ngmi

[Anonymous No.7102349]

>>7102334
good post

[Anonymous No.7102351]

>>7102270
>>7102303
>>7102319
>>7102312
>>7102328
>AI art god
>Make inferior /beg/ copy
Hmm. Woman logic confirmed.

[Anonymous No.7102364]

>>7102270
Blog_

[Anonymous No.7102366]

>>7102364
Go back to your home https://stability.ai troon. Stop sucking your own penis.

[Anonymous No.7102369]

>>7102366
I think I recognize his artstyle. Hence why I am asking.

[Anonymous No.7102374]

Thoughts on the composition? Is there too much going on in the left?

[Anonymous No.7102376]

>>7102270
Not to jump on the retard dogpile, but you really should reconsider referencing AI, or at least do it more carefully. In your reference image she's holding half a fucking book, and in your version she's holding a full book in the same way, as if there isn't any weight on the other side. AI images are still filled with these sorts of pitfalls, as well as more subtle mistakes and inconsistencies that are bound to pile up if they're your primary references. It might be more convenient to prompt any pose you want, but you're hurting yourself in the long run.

Anyway, foot studies before bed. They've always been a weak point of mine and I'm finally facing my fears.

[Anonymous No.7102379]

[Anonymous No.7102385]

>>7101294
How do I get lines like that? What program do you use?

[Anonymous No.7102386]

>>7102385
Any/All. It's a skill that gets picked up after a copious amount of doodling.

[Anonymous No.7102395]

>>7102386
For some reason I have a hard time getting my lines to look right in clip studio paint. I thought it was maybe my brush..

[Anonymous No.7102397]

>>7102395
You can do that with any brush really. You just need to either manually add line weight (go over the lines until the lines themselves are thicker in appropriate place, eraser them until it looks good) or adjust your pressure settings to include size.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7102403]

Sometimes is nice to not try hard and do a silly doodle.

[Anonymous No.7102408]

>>7102395
Nah, it's your stabilization settings. If that doesn't work, go the vector route.

[Anonymous No.7102409]

>>7101502
bnnuy
>>7101272
thanks anon, i'll check it out

[Anonymous No.7102410]

>>7102172
28 years old btw

>>7102180
Yes practically every artist uses them, if anything I don’t use them enough
It’s still worth it to draw from imagination but it’s important to have a good understanding first
References help with that

[Anonymous No.7102420]

>>7102214
Is he blind or something? the arms looks like they fuse into a hook. the rapier(not a sword expert) look janky and the rest of the body.
The hair looks janky as well. Why is he's so focus on the face? It was basically the only thing that turned out somewhat okay.
Is it to avoid talking about the rest, because it hurts his narcissistic ego?

[Anonymous No.7102422]

>>7102214
>>7102420
>Esdeath fag
The proto Pawell. At least he didn't give advice.

[Anonymous No.7102427]

>>7102422
what is your issue with Pawell?
are you angry he gave your precious loomie troonie book a 2/10?
https://pawell2418.github.io/wisdom.html

[Anonymous No.7102432]

I cant fucking render AAAAAAAAAAAA
greyscale is such a fucking cope

[Anonymous No.7102436]

>>7102427
Guys I found the problem.

[Anonymous No.7102437]

>>7102436
It is though, since it clears your mind and puts you into "work mode"

[Anonymous No.7102440]

>>7102214
Isn't Loomis a meme? I tried that before, and the instructions kinda suck major balls.

[Anonymous No.7102448]

>>7101539
>>7101775
Golftism runs deep. There’s about a million little details you could get into.
Remember that 99% of people don’t have a perfect swing, and everyone has a different swing.

[Anonymous No.7102454]

What is /ic/'s equivalent of "Squats, oats, and GOMAD"?

[Anonymous No.7102461]

>>7102427
>Loomis? Heh... 2/10

[Anonymous No.7102466]

>>7102454
Loomis, boxes, and autistic screeching.

[Anonymous No.7102471]

>>7102427
>Reading books
Reading hurts my head. I watch tutorial on youtube and video courses.

[Anonymous No.7102481]

>>7102427
check out his FAQ
>What are all these random watermarks about?
>That is how I roll, they appeal to me.
>...
>As an added bonus, they poison "ai" training data sets.

t. based Pawell1234. He poisons ai bots with his drawings AND his watermarks. he's doing gods work. you lot should be greatful.

[Anonymous No.7102488]

>>7101792
Can somebody give me some pointers on how I could have done the shading better here? I must have tried to re-do it a dozen times and ended up with what I have here. I tried looking up references but none of them were all that helpful-- the shadows were usually really subtle or the angle of the hood wasn't right.

[Anonymous No.7102494]

>>7102309
I know I didn't spend that long on it but damn you mogged me, beautiful work on the hair~ and body/shading

[Anonymous No.7102495]

>>7102385
>What program do you use
Clip Studio, and one of the default brushes for the linework, mapping pen I believe.
>How do I get lines like that
You trace high res manga/doujin pages with the pen

>>7101393
I have a pixiv acc
users/14735673

[Anonymous No.7102499]

>>7102495
I knew it. Shantae is only popular because of coomers.

[Anonymous No.7102503]

this stupid head though :]

[Anonymous No.7102513]

>>7102503
fuck you ~zzz~

[Anonymous No.7102516]

>>7102202
>>7102513
did you just discovered DAD :D

[Anonymous No.7102531]

>>7101717
I like your drawings

[Anonymous No.7102535]

>>7102516
Yes, and i hate every /int/oid itt. You bitches make me feel insignificant.

[Anonymous No.7102615]

>>7102199
>Watch Vilppu videos to see how he feels the form while drawing and try doing a bunch of figure drawing doing the same thing
I've gone through Vilppu multiple times, but I don't understand a single thing. I wish I did, cause I really like they way he draws.

[Anonymous No.7102638]

Ok but seriously though, what am I supposed to be doing to learn 2 draw? I haven't drawn shit since I was a little kid. Should I just draw a bunch of stick figures like "How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way" says?

[Anonymous No.7102654]

I swear to god if I see one more person ask where to start I'm going to an hero

[Anonymous No.7102662]

>>7102654
where do i start

[Anonymous No.7102669]

I'm happy with this given my lack of practice, but I know it can be better.

[Anonymous No.7102670]

>>7102654
where do i end...

[Anonymous No.7102672]

>>7102669
not sure why it turned 90 degrees, sorry lol. It's upright in my folders.

[Anonymous No.7102674]

>>7101658
But I'm not enjoying the ride, I apparently can't even do the basics

[Anonymous No.7102683]

>>7102674
does some one force you to do it? if you do not like doing it then don't

[Anonymous No.7102684]

>>7102670
I don't know man, I'm starting to think it just keeps going

[Anonymous No.7102694]

>>7102638
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5AV42mgAe0

[Anonymous No.7102698]

>>7102674
Only start worrying of not even doing the basics after a year of practice

[Anonymous No.7102708]

Finished with fwap and the last drawing really showed me how bad i am at accuracy and values, had to use free-transform a few times.
Onto loomis' head and hands and i'll supplement with a video course if i can manage it.

[Anonymous No.7102709]

>>7101449
qt shapes

[Anonymous No.7102710]

>>7101582
>men crossing their legs
the government should ban this

[Anonymous No.7102716]

>>7101294

[Anonymous No.7102734]

[Anonymous No.7102756]

Animation is kinda fun, even for a beg like me.

[Anonymous No.7102759]

>>7101571
Pretty much yes. At least he has the drive.

[Anonymous No.7102764]

>>7102669
>There is a reason why when they start a conversation with people, it all starts with “Fear not”

[Anonymous No.7102778]

planning an illustration, kinda of final fantasy tactics and monster hunter about pest control (rats). Which idea looks more interesting? I'm liking the feel B gives.

>>7102708
for values John Singer Sargent's charcoal portraits are excellent. also you can increase the size of your brush and use and knead like eraser to increase your value range.

[Anonymous No.7102784]

>>7102615
It doesn’t make any sense until suddenly it does and you get what he means by feel the form. Just have to keep practicing the same method while keeping in mind the things mentioned and build your 3D observation skills bit by bit.
>>7102301
Your gesture was much better here >>7102295 so don’t do timed gestures. If you’re going to do gestures take your time to feel the flow without any time limit before drawing any lines or just focus on figure construction for now.

[Anonymous No.7102787]

Fanart i did for /vp/ with some fakemon from quarantine crystal.

[Anonymous No.7102801]

is 30 minutes daily enough practice to learn to sketch/draw? want to use pencil and maybe colored pencila at sone point

[Anonymous No.7102803]

>>7102295
if the figure on the left is leaning on his hand, then you need to draw with the assumption that he is on the floor, so I would recommend adding more structure to that hand. Show that it’s pressing down and not just floating in space. His thighs should be more squished as well if they’re on top of his calves. YGMI, keep going

Sent from my iPhone

[Anonymous No.7102807]

>>7102801
no

[Anonymous No.7102809]

>>7102807
35?

[Anonymous No.7102825]

>>7102683
That's what I keep trying to tell myself. But for some reason I can't stop and keep trying.

[Anonymous No.7102836]

>>7102801
I did 30 minutes a day for like 4 years and was still beg. Those 30 minutes a day were studies too, it's not like I was dicking around

Try to get 2 hours in at least, if you want to get good in any reasonable amount of time. (within 10 years)

[Anonymous No.7102847]

>>7102223
Nope, they will delete anything that they consider "offensive", and you know that their definitions of what's offensive id pretty volatile, I have lost hundred of good references there.

[Anonymous No.7102849]

>>7102270
Unlike these literal /beg/s saying to not use ai as reference, I steal ideas from AI all the time. But, you can't trust AI to have proper anatomy, shading, or consistency. So, what you've done where you took the girl's design, is good. But her pose/anatomy are always going to be fucked, and it will make learning those skills harder. You definitely improved her anatomy, but it will always be up to you to fix AI's mistakes if you use it as a hard ref. Very good sketches btw!

[Anonymous No.7102867]

Can I grind this shit like an mmo? What should I do if I want to enter my cave and emerge 2 months later a god/high beg?

[Anonymous No.7102871]

>>7102849
>Unlike these literal /beg/s
>very good sketches btw!
LOL

[Anonymous No.7102872]

>>7102867
https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

[Anonymous No.7102877]

>>7102867
>2 months to high beg
you're underestimating art and should un-fuck your expectations before you get disappointed and quit

[Anonymous No.7102885]

>>7102877
Well whatever the timeframe may be I want to grind the same exercise over and over until I can progress to the next one, and the next, eventually leading me to become good at drawing.

[Anonymous No.7102887]

>>7102867
Obviously not, you need to internalise the lesons you learn and apply critical thinking, not just grind gestures for 2 months

[Anonymous No.7102888]

>>7102885
kek. ngmi

[Anonymous No.7102889]

>>7102885
mindless grinding for any length of time probably won't work either imo, it's a conscious mental skill not a physical or subconscious reactive one
you have to leave the gamification meme in the 2010s like everyone else

[Anonymous No.7102890]

>>7102867
>>7102885
not really, improvement comes from being self critical and working on your weaknesses
just grinding away won't work (see >>7093527)

[Anonymous No.7102891]

>>7102885
I have the perfect book for you, grind loomis for two months straight

[Anonymous No.7102893]

>>7102885
It's not juggling anon, that's not how you learn drawing

[Anonymous No.7102896]

>>7102885
ask pawell how that's going for him

[Anonymous No.7102900]

>>7102871
>considers being nice and encouraging people to keep drawing /beg/
unironically ngmi

[Anonymous No.7102909]

>>7102893
Then what should I do?

[Anonymous No.7102913]

>>7102900
were you being nice when you called people literal begs or ngmi?

[Anonymous No.7102921]

>>7102877
dumb beg

[Anonymous No.7102924]

>>7102909
Read sticky

[Anonymous No.7102947]

>>7102214
I would swear this drawing is at least a year old

[Anonymous No.7102958]

I didn’t draw.

[Anonymous No.7102959]

>>7102913
>anon doesn't know about holding multiple opinions
>anon takes everything too seriously
put the keyboard away........ for your own sake....

[Anonymous No.7102975]

>>7102959
>holding multiple opinions
did you mean: hypocrisy?

[Anonymous No.7102976]

>>7102410
>28 years old btw
It's very simple, everyone should just avoid getting fat.

[Anonymous No.7102987]

>>7101497
I spend way too much time on a single figure for a very sub-par result. Tried to move her hand and do a small piece from imagination, but doing even tiniest bit from imagination completely mind breaks me. Does this look like believable female human anatomy?

[Anonymous No.7102993]

My line art is pretty weak but i think its turning out fine.

[Anonymous No.7102994]

Did another figure study, but I felt awful mentally today and just didn't feel up for doing much drawing.

Granted the size of my sketch is larger than the reference which could cause issues, though I think I did a fairly decent enough job keeping it accurate...except for the legs and feet. I am TERRIBLE at keeping the feet in the right position, my previous sketch also had issues with feet placement, so it seems I am absolutely hopeless when it comes to placing the weight of the feet.

I am getting kinda used to constructing limbs a certain way but still feel a bit uncoordinated at times. Anyway, I'll take a break from drawing for the rest of the day and then try again tomorrow, and maybe try doing studies based on frames from disney movies after I do another anatomy study...I appreciate critiques just I got annoyed the other day because I just find "symbol drawing" to be not a terribly helpful critique as it's too vague.

[Anonymous No.7102995]

Hello frens
I made a lady with a big axe, what do you guys think? :)

[Anonymous No.7103001]

>>7102993
actually Im retarded, that wasn't even the latest one I saved.

[Anonymous No.7103023]

>>7103001
can you show what's happening with the arms out of frame?

[Anonymous No.7103025]

Feel like my values are too weak. I tried going for a light banana color since the lightning would produce a ton of light all around him.

[Anonymous No.7103032]

>>7103023
thats the entirety of it, its not a crop, im afraid.

[Anonymous No.7103033]

>>7102825
That means ygmi because even if you try to quit, you can’t. You have no choice but to keep going and you’ll get there eventually no matter how long it takes.
>>7102847
>>7102223
kek I’ve been banned multiple times now. Save everything you want to keep locally and just use their algorithm to find cool images.
>>7102867
>>7102885
Grinding (mindless practice) doesn’t work at all. Art isn’t anything like an mmo, you need to use your brain to improve or you end up like Chris-chan. If you practice a lot while actually using your brain then maybe you can do it. But all skills build on each other so you can’t just do one for a long time and master it, you have to rotate through different skills multiple times because you learn more each time.

[Anonymous No.7103040]

>>7103033
how can you get banned from pinterest?

[Anonymous No.7103042]

>>7102994
mileage, anon. The key to improving is to do a lot. Try to hit 10-20 drawings a day.

[Anonymous No.7103050]

how long to learn to draw frogs and piggies?

[Anonymous No.7103054]

>>7103050
Frogs AND piggies? You're looking at about 30,000,000 cubes, easy.

[Anonymous No.7103060]

>>7103032
I know, I'm telling you to draw it

[Anonymous No.7103065]

>>7102994
Measure out your proportions before drawing and make marks for where the feet should go before starting the legs instead of trying to go from top to bottom and hoping they end up in the right position. You can draw a line between the feet on your ref to see the correct angle and distance.

[Anonymous No.7103066]

who's baking?

[Anonymous No.7103083]

>>7103040
“Sexual content”

[Anonymous No.7103091]

what was that plugin for drawing perfect lines called

[Anonymous No.7103094]

>>7103091
practice? lazy nezumi?

[Anonymous No.7103096]

>>7103065
I'll try to keep this in mind for my next study.
>>7103042
I'll try to do more during the day, just feel like I often can't apply what I learn in my studies to my own pics just yet.

[Anonymous No.7103100]

>>7103094
yep, thanks

[Anonymous No.7103113]

>>7102975
You might unironically be autistic, and I mean that in the worst way possible.

[Anonymous No.7103134]

>>7101724

[Anonymous No.7103140]

>>7102072
>you learn it only by drawing SHITTON of figures. So thats what i am doing
No.
You learn by putting effort into studying and drawing figures. You are just pumping out gorillion zero effort scribbles. You don't even bother to copy figures properly. Check your stuff from year ago, your copies were orders of magnitude better. You actually got worse. Or rather got lazier.
Look at anons who actually try and draw figures ITT and then look at your figures. Just look at replies to these refs and tell me you are putting in as much work as they do.
>>7101497
>>7101501
Honestly, almost every single work ITT looks like they tried at least 10 times harder than you did.

[Anonymous No.7103145]

>>7102072
>you learn it only by drawing SHITTON of figures. So thats what i am doing
No.
You learn by putting effort into studying and drawing figures. You are just pumping out gorillion zero effort scribbles. You don't even bother to copy figures properly. Check your stuff from year ago, your copies were orders of magnitude better. You actually got worse. Or rather got lazier.
Look at anons who actually try and draw figures ITT and then look at your figures. Just look at replies to these refs and tell me you are putting in as much work as they do.
>>7101497
>>7101502
Honestly, almost every single work ITT looks like they tried at least 10 times harder than you did.

Captcha NGR00

[Anonymous No.7103147]

>>7103145
>Honestly, almost every single work ITT looks like they tried at least 10 times harder than you did.
You realize of course, that this is a photo, yes?

[Anonymous No.7103148]

>>7103147
>Just look at replies to these refs
Anon.....

[Anonymous No.7103150]

>>7103147
retard-kun...

[Anonymous No.7103154]

>>7103148
>>7103150
Sorry, I have succumbed to profound retardation

[Anonymous No.7103162]

[Anonymous No.7103166]

>>7103162
nice, i've been thinking of doing something similar.

[Anonymous No.7103203]

Do you have mannequins?

[Anonymous No.7103248]

>>7102995
Nice face, nice axe

[Anonymous No.7103249]

After a first attempt that looked like utter shite, I redrew this. it turned out better than the original, but ultimately I ruined it because I can't for the life of me draw hands.

[Anonymous No.7103260]

>>7101497
I NEED to kill myself

[Anonymous No.7103262]

>>7101497
>>7103260
Forgot image

[Anonymous No.7103265]

>>7103262
you need to rotate yourself

>>7103264
>>7103264
>>7103264
>>7103264
>>7103264
>>7103264

[Anonymous No.7103282]

Anyone have Kaycem's full bootcamp on gumroad? I think it just came out recently, would appreciate if anyone can upload

[Anonymous No.7103490]

>>7101307
It varies from person to person, you'll have to just keep drawing to know.
Btw don't be so harsh on yourself, even though you're clearly /beg/ your drawing does have personality and a clear idea and vibe.

[Anonymous No.7103501]

>>7102004
>>7102011
pyw? do you guys have preweed/weed drawings and stuff?

[Anonymous No.7103508]

>>7102885
brother you're a human being, you can't expect yourself to work like a machine or a line of code, it just doesn't work like that
approach drawing like a human, stick to what works and what you enjoy, draw in accordance to your time and energy levels, etc
of course a certain level of discipline is needed but keep in mind that you're a human, a monke. It'll keep you from burning the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.7105066]

guys, how long do you take to fully colour shade etc your art?