/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners General

[Anonymous No.7093058]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
e-hentai.org/tag/other:how+to
line-of-action.com
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific

Previous thread: >>7091455

[Anonymous No.7093061]

>>7093058
great op

[Anonymous No.7093062]

>>7093058
The little nekomimi crab should be /beg/'s mascot.

[Anonymous No.7093076]

>>7093074
Reposting since last thread died a moment before i posted it.....

[Anonymous No.7093083]

>>7093058
Yeah, I'm /beg/
/beg/ging god for even an ounce of motivation, I'm tired of thinking and learning about new hobbies but never actually engaging in them

[Anonymous No.7093092]

>>7093058
I just picked up a bunch of 0.5mm HB automatic pencil leads and I already feel like I've made a mistake. Welp, I made my own bed, so to speak, gonna have to lie in it now.

[Anonymous No.7093098]

ngmi

[Anonymous No.7093114]

>>7092960
Any critique? pretty ples

[Anonymous No.7093128]

>>7093083
For real, I can't even get myself to actually draw because I'm left burnt out from just thinking about it all the time instead.

[Anonymous No.7093130]

>>7093114

[Anonymous No.7093131]

>>7092282
>>7092960
>>7093114
try adding a different angle to the composition, like moving the horizon line to thigh height to get a view from below
the forearm has a posture that looks like a velociraptor so I tried to make it more interesting, but don't get me wrong, you're going in the right direction

[Anonymous No.7093160]

>>7093083
what you need is a pure, brainless plan. a drawing schedule

Mine was 30 minutes of gestures. I did that for years and years, and while my improvement was far from optimal, I wouldn't be where I am now without it. Now that I have more experience, motivation, and clearly defined goals, my plan is a lot more nuanced, but when you're a beg, almost anything will work, as long as you draw every day.

[Anonymous No.7093161]

>>7093076
Just post it again, I refuse to look back in anger

[Anonymous No.7093169]

>>7093161
>>7093074
Okay, anon. But i still have the same question as my original post

[Anonymous No.7093171]

>>7093114
>>7093130
Pose kinda awkward

[Anonymous No.7093172]

What is the fastest way to get good?

[Anonymous No.7093173]

>>7093169
It doesn't look terrible anon, and your line work is fine. Shade it

[Anonymous No.7093174]

>>7093161
>>7093169
Ill repost it again back at home....please understand

[Anonymous No.7093175]

>>7093172
Get good at what? Perspective? Color? Floating anime heads?

[Anonymous No.7093177]

>>7093175
DRAWING, YOU IDIOT. DRAWING!

[Anonymous No.7093179]

For some reason this one makes me angrier than all the others I fucked up.
I think it's the eyes.

[Anonymous No.7093188]

>>7093172
grind all day every day

[Anonymous No.7093189]

>>7093131
Thanks! Thats very helpful

[Anonymous No.7093191]

Yesterday night I did anime head studies before bed. Was pretty happy with what I learned. Today i'm learning about block people, and figuration.
Note: Black sketches are the references i used, aswell as the animoo girl, only traced twice so i could get a better understanding.

[Anonymous No.7093192]

How is this pose looking?
I have very little idea what I'm doing
What are some things I should work on?

[Anonymous No.7093195]

I'm looking to pick up digital art. I did a month or so of drawabox on pen+paper a few years back. Should I do the same for tablet, or can anyone recommend a better course to grind basic mechanical skills with?

[Anonymous No.7093200]

>>7093195
I'm a beg but I've been going though Marc Burnet's digital art course and I feel I've been slowly improving
You can find a torrent of it relatively easily
$400 is a pretty hefty price

[Anonymous No.7093202]

>>7093191
Do the horizontal line alwyas go through the middle?

[Anonymous No.7093214]

>>7093202
Yeah they do roughly, for me at least. It's just a circle with a line through the middle from both sides.

[Anonymous No.7093218]

>>7093131

[Anonymous No.7093219]

>>7093214
What i see from your drawings is that always go through the middle (angled where it's looking at) the top of the eye start from said line. I guess you just wing the jaw?

[Anonymous No.7093223]

>>7093192
It’s a good improvement. In fact, I would say the screen-right side of the new pose is great. Focus on the silhouette. The after drawing is objectively better proportioned and posed, but having the cup hand outside the body’s silhouette is a strength that you had before that you lost. Honestly just move the forearms away from the body and the composition should be as good as it gets.

Another thing you’ve lost is the head construction. Head construction is actually pretty well done in the before picture. You’re losing some of that proportion and structure in the after pose, the face is kind of sliding out of place.

Everything else is much better though, the line work is more confident. One thing I would say is to try and ditch the cylinders. If you’re going to do forms (and you should) you should ideally do prisms for several reasons, mostly though it’ll get you thinking about the facing of each form.

[Anonymous No.7093224]

Some of the better ones from today's gesture practice. Feeling a little demotivated. Not significantly worse than any others I've done, but some days you just feel the distance between where you are and where you want to go more than others.

[Anonymous No.7093225]

>>7093002
Anon please tell me where do i put this mistery combination..... i'll give you a hug if you tell me.

[Anonymous No.7093230]

>>7093225
1. Google base 64 decoder
2. Paste the link on and click decode (some people are retarded, so you have to do it 2, 3 times)
I hate these coded links. Some retard came to moderate the /artbook/ thread and spread this cancer.

[Anonymous No.7093231]

>>7093219
I struggled drawing the jaw the most. It's more so that i'm just copying the references and how it's done in those, but i'm also trying to understand how the artist draws it too. That's why the jaw varies so much in the drawings.
You're not wrong with how i'm kinda of winging it, but i've also kind of figured out the way it should be drawn. Might be easier if I draw a larger circle around the original circle to use as a guide line, but I wanna draw different expressions too, so i'll end up revisiting and trying again with the head studies when I do those anyway.

[Anonymous No.7093233]

>>7093231
I just noticed sometimes you put the eyes right in the line. Now i don't know what to think...

[Anonymous No.7093234]

>>7093218
delicious

[Anonymous No.7093235]

>>7092184
completed

[Anonymous No.7093239]

>>7093233
Oh god i'm a retard. I just realised you were talking about the eyes kek. I thought you were talking about something else. The eyes. I put them there at the very end of the sketch, after i'm done with that attempt. They mean nothing, i'm just adding character to the drawing.

[Anonymous No.7093241]

>>7093239
>>7093233
It's more so that I know what way the heads facing.

[Anonymous No.7093243]

>>7093223
Thanks anon!
I'll work on fixing the head and the "cheers" pose for the cup hand.
I didn't even consider a silhouette
And what do you mean by doing prisms?
Is it different than cylinders?

[Anonymous No.7093247]

>>7093218
The left arm/hand feels off to me. But i can't explain whhhy.

[Anonymous No.7093250]

>>7093235
cute drawing
studying faces and more figure drawing will improve your work a lot

[Anonymous No.7093251]

>>7093230
>mega
>5gb
I will never be able to download this with that stupid size limit...

[Anonymous No.7093253]

>>7093058
>made OP
Nice. Saved.

>>7093098
Not bad Anon. Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.7093254]

>>7093251
Just buy your reference images then

https://www.artstation.com/obscura29/store

[Anonymous No.7093257]

[Anonymous No.7093262]

>>7093171
>>7093114
>>7093130
preferred anons version with the bigger ass honestly

[Anonymous No.7093264]

>>7093218
Where can I masturbate to more of your work?
I cummmed a lot to this one, very nice

[Anonymous No.7093267]

>>7093257

[Anonymous No.7093275]

Is my style good enough for manga?

[Anonymous No.7093276]

>>7093173
I just noticed i actually have no idea how to shade with a pencil...

[Anonymous No.7093279]

I won’t contribute to this thread.

[Anonymous No.7093281]

>>7093275
maybe some additional details in the hair, but outside of that yeah maybe

[Anonymous No.7093283]

>>7093276
Try hatching my nigga
>>7093275
Any style can be manga. Try drawing an entire panel, background and all, see if it's worth your time. The more shading, the longer it's gonna take

[Anonymous No.7093285]

>>7093243
Yeah, basically you'd make the limbs out of cubes and rectangular prisms. This is something a bit more advanced, so feel free to ignore it. But, one challenge I've started giving to my students is to try and not use circles.

Circles are incredibly unconscious shapes and cylinders are kind of similar. When you draw an actual shape, you have to consider angles, faces, etc. This is more useful for painting, since the individual facings of forms is incredibly important for determining light, but it's still good for basic line work and figure drawing. One, it forces you to make conscious choices of the shapes and forms you use. Two, it helps you determine the 'front' and 'sides of things like arms and stuff, which helps in muscle placement.

Feel free to ignore it. Cylinders are fine for determing direction. It's just that generally circles don't have a lot of thought put into them while other shapes necessitate some thinking about where you place lines.

Keep it up!

[Anonymous No.7093289]

Sup beg, this is so far the most lmao pose i have drawn so far yet

>>7093275
manga is all about the story, art is like secondary aspect. if ever in doubt look at one punch man. all said and done i like it. very cool
>>7093235
basic, yet cute. thumbs up
>>7093218
BOOBA
>>7093195
>i did drawabox which sucked so much it made me quit drawing for a few years
>should i do it again?
stop falling for that disaster and start with keys to drawing
>>7093179
the biggest eyesore is her skin. on hair you managed okayish value range. but her skin is oversaturated single value disaster with the white markings breaking the form
>>7093169
>should i try fucking finishing my drawing?
yes, the answer is always fucking YES
>>7093130
i like it, all the other anons who are redlining this are drawing different poses
>>7093098
could be better, could be begger. just keep going

[Anonymous No.7093295]

>>7093275
looks pretty good bro
the shading in particular is looking slick

[Anonymous No.7093296]

>>7093283
>Try hatching my nigga
I saw a video and didn't really like it. But what do i know. Ended up trying to shade it however i know it and the left happened. I just don't know how to blend it with light skin and make it look good tbqh...
Then i remember something about using your finger to blur it and the mounstrosity on the right happened. It was fun but i just wish i knew what i was doing.

[Anonymous No.7093301]

>>7093243
adding to what anon >>7093285 said, you can also try 'squaring off' the cylinders you have
I find it specially useful when setting up the limbs (for example a leg/knee), since it gives a clear idea where all planes face, without losing the big cylindrical idea

[Anonymous No.7093302]

>>7093289
The ugliness of those figure is unreal. You kinda feel the flow + form(20% out of 100%), and that it. Learn to present those in an appealing way and pay some little attention to the proportions.

[Anonymous No.7093303]

how do you stylize your art? pic related as an example I guess. Do you use a real life ref and just draw it differently and maybe exaggerate some of the proportions or do you use other peoples art as reference with a style you like and try to emulate that? Should I try both?

[Anonymous No.7093325]

>>7093303
Since you can stylize anything (from the shapes that form a subject to how light interacts with that subject, for example), the choices you make when you draw something can come from anywhere. Real life, other artists, whatever. Style is the result of your taste. Good stylization requires decision making.
Master studies are basically studies on style. "A master study is an attempt to understand the process and --->creative choices<--- of a painter, typically an established one, in an effort to see how an artist may arrive at a finished painting"

[Anonymous No.7093328]

>>7093303
Draw the things you would like to draw, without a draft, from imagination for an hour or two (you have to be able to that first, of course), day after day. When you look at these drawings later, pick the ones that came out nice, by accident or by inspiration, drawings that have something special about them, and analyze and try to develop those special traits. This is how you encourage your style to emerge naturally. You can, and probably should when starting up, copy the style of other artists you like too. Becoming good at copying someone, and gradually bringing your own character into it is another way to develop your style.

[Anonymous No.7093331]

when is it time to study.

idk if this counts as studying but I copy manga panels and redraw them from memory.. will that help me?

But yeah when is it time to study

[Anonymous No.7093333]

>>7093331
I worded this like shit

but essentially when is it time to study anatomy perspective and all that. The fundamentals. Should I do it now or do it when drawing becomes a habit?

[Anonymous No.7093335]

>>7093328 (me)
I should add that those special traits will not necessarily, or at all, be unique. It may be a part of some other artist's style that sneaks into your drawing, and makes you realize that you like drawing like that, even though you didn't even pay any special attention to it when you looked at his art.

[Anonymous No.7093336]

>>7093333
you study when you want to draw something and you can't

[Anonymous No.7093337]

Is this book good for a beg? I used to draw and went to summer courses almost a decade ago, so I've lost much but I'm relearning quickly.

[Anonymous No.7093338]

one of my first finished digital pieces, what can I fix?

[Anonymous No.7093340]

>>7093337
that book is the epitome of "give a man a fish, and feed him for a day" and so on. You would do better if you got Loomis and struggled through it for yourself

[Anonymous No.7093341]

>>7093338
Why does the character have a black outline, but nothing else does?

[Anonymous No.7093348]

>>7093340
Not that anon but I went through it and it comes off as someone that just copied and pasted deviantart tutorials into a book. Bloody horrible.

[Anonymous No.7093349]

>>7093338
why is his weapon so far away, what if he gets ambushed?

[Anonymous No.7093352]

>>7093340
>>7093348
Damn, I thought that it was a great book because it centered on the basics unlike those shitty learn how to draw books I read back in school where more than 90% of the books were characters to copy.
Should I leave it for learning how to apply what I learn in Loomis or is it useless?

[Anonymous No.7093353]

Good anatomy

[Anonymous No.7093357]

>>7093325
>>7093328
see I brought up that specific art piece because I liked the style and the pose and I wanted to use it as a reference but the problem was I wanted to draw a different character and change the pose slightly (like changing her arm because the character I want to draw doesn't have a hat) and I was worried that once I copied the parts that I wanted (thighs, body and face) the rest of it would look terrible since I don't have a reference for it. I'd like to draw it but with her standing up instead of her legs being in the air

Would that not work? Can I not deviate too much from that pose since it's so stylized? Like how I mentioned I wanted to change her calves up a bit, would that even be possible or does that art not have enough wiggle room to deviant from the reference too much?

[Anonymous No.7093362]

>>7093341
legit good criticism,I will change that next time

[Anonymous No.7093364]

>>7093349
He is simply pondering, he can hold his own unarmed (though that is a good observation)

[Anonymous No.7093367]

>>7093357
Anon, if you want a reference image for someone standing you need a photo or a drawing of someone standing, the weight distribution will be very different from someone flying or whatever is happening there. That drawing is pretty stiff, but the overall figure suggests movement and weightlessness as if she's jumping up. Her tits are bouncing up, and the action line is facing upwards.

[Anonymous No.7093368]

rotating some volumes and constructing a scapula

[Anonymous No.7093372]

>>7093367
so if I wanted to draw something in a similar style to that particular drawing, I'd have to draw her in the same exact pose? or does it depend on what you're trying to draw

[Anonymous No.7093377]

>>7093352
>it centered on the basics
sounds like you're at a level where you don't even know what the basics are yet.

If so, I recommend following the books in pic related. These are the books that will take you from zero to hero (ero manga master)

[Anonymous No.7093380]

Finished. I need to learn to colour.

Any C&C? How do I make more appealing? I need to study artists I like.

[Anonymous No.7093395]

>>7093380
Right nipples down too low.

[Anonymous No.7093399]

>>7093372
No, a style is something that can be applied to any pose. I mean, of course pose selection is an element of style, some artists prefer restrained poses, some like more exaggerated poses. Anyway, here's how I'd draw the same figure standing.

[Anonymous No.7093400]

Any way to power level my observational skills or is it just pure hours?

[Anonymous No.7093403]

>>7093400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ0lz7W0CYs

[Anonymous No.7093404]

>>7093368
Very nice
>>7093380
Are you creating these from scratch? If so you're doing very well, def gmi

[Anonymous No.7093406]

the moral is that the funimation app was better.

[Anonymous No.7093409]

>>7093177
Drawing what?

[Anonymous No.7093416]

>>7093403
Thanks. I'm a super beginner so I'm practicing trying to draw simpler shapes with as much fidelity as possible, I'll give this a shot when I go about my drawing.

[Anonymous No.7093419]

[Anonymous No.7093420]

>>7093377
im currently doing keys to drawing first, can I complete that first than do drawing of the right side of the brain or what's recommended

[Anonymous No.7093424]

[Anonymous No.7093425]

>>7093399
yeah that drawing you just did is what I'm talking about. I wanted a somewhat different pose and maybe a different character but drawn in a similar style. I liked the way he drew her body, her face and her thighs, as well as the colors and how he exaggerated some of it and I was wondering how you would "convert" that into a different pose. Does that make sense?

Would you try to use that reference but change the drawing into something else? Or would it be better to use a real life reference for the pose you want and try to apply that art to the reference pose? I hope I'm explaining and asking this in an understandable way. I'm not always the best at properly articulating myself so I think that might be there was some confusion over my question

[Anonymous No.7093428]

[Anonymous No.7093429]

>>7093425
gather as much reference as you need and start drawing
don't overthink it, lest you become another howie

[Anonymous No.7093432]

say 29 of drawing

[Anonymous No.7093433]

>>7093429
yeah I felt like I was asking too many questions lol. I just liked that drawing and wanted to do the same thing except have her standing up. thanks anon

[Anonymous No.7093434]

>>7093425
>Or would it be better to use a real life reference for the pose you want and try to apply that art to the reference pose?

That's generally how it's done, yes. If you're comfortable with drawing from imagination you can do it without a figure reference, but if you're not confident enough you should absolutely use a photo or something else. Artists of any skill levels rely on references.

[Anonymous No.7093436]

>>7093419
draw a beautiful dress for her

[Anonymous No.7093437]

>>7093380
wow, bulldykes look like *THAT*!?

[Anonymous No.7093440]

>>7093058
Worked on this a bit more. Added colors + clothing.

[Anonymous No.7093442]

i fucked the proportions up something fierce but the hands look kinda like hands so that's something

[Anonymous No.7093443]

>>7093442
whoops pic rel

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7093445]

Guys be honest with me, on a scale of NGMI to 10, how is this pose?

I tried coming up with one out of my pure knowledge, no references used.

[Anonymous No.7093446]

[Anonymous No.7093447]

Are these proper fundies? (not my work)

[Anonymous No.7093450]

>>7093445
hello I'm a perma beg, but I think the head needs to be raised a bit or the shoulder dropped a bit or maybe a combo of both, the rest looks p good though

[Anonymous No.7093451]

>>7093447
hiding hands and amputee legs are troublesome signs
but it's on the right path

[Anonymous No.7093452]

Drew myself again today.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7093456]

>>7093450
Hmmmm, i tried to give it a look like shes tilting her head foward while looking at the viewer like in a menacing way, i guess it didnt work very well.

[Anonymous No.7093459]

>>7093447
yummy tummy.

[Anonymous No.7093460]

[Anonymous No.7093469]

:')

[Anonymous No.7093470]

>>7093440
Looks like 90's VHS anime, but much less expressionless
>>7093443
Look good from the neck up, also maybe not such high res bro
>>7093445
Looks fine bro, even better if you didn't use ref.
But you wont make it being a tripfag
>>7093452
What did you use as ref

[Anonymous No.7093472]

>>7093445
Arms are too short. Here's how I'd do it, but I'm not into superhero/anime stuff.

The pose should be expressive: it should both speak of the character and of the character's state. For example if you want her to be relaxed, and show hidden strength and confidence this way, you should draw her more at ease. If you want her to seem brave, draw her with raised head and body leaning forward. If you want her to appear defensive, which is what your pose suggests, draw her with shoulders raised and head lowered.

Another more specific thing about poses, is that, unless you have a good reason, you should avoid arms and legs stretching towards the viewer. It's an awkward angle that makes the figure less impressive and the pose harder to read, as with her left arm.

Third, always draw the draft with any elements which may affect the figure, like the heels here, heels change the posture. Draw the hair as well, all main volumes should be present, because they interact with the other forms in the finished drawing, and you should know that everything looks good.

[Anonymous No.7093473]

>>7093470
Myself in the mirror mostly.

[Anonymous No.7093476]

>>7093452
Be my boyfriend please. Also nice job anon!

[Anonymous No.7093480]

>>7093470
>also maybe not such high res bro
wdym I just took a pic with my phone

[Anonymous No.7093481]

>>7093235
very cute and good sense of flow

[Anonymous No.7093483]

Need some help on which composition to use. I'm leaning towards the left one, but it might be too visually noisy.

[Anonymous No.7093485]

>>7093480
Then edit the size, 2041x2751 isn't ideal for a sketch like this. Most phones have this function
>>7093473
Then you did a great job on the hands

[Anonymous No.7093489]

>>7093483
Left looks good, but takes focus off the character, and is more of a spiritual intimidating aura, where on the right, you eyes are drawn directly to his, cause he's looking right at you.
Whatever you are trying to convey, pick from there

[Anonymous No.7093490]

>>7093485
Don't interact with Soda. Guy is a lost cause.

[Anonymous No.7093491]

>>7093483
Right one has a little too much space on the right side of the figure. Left one crops the secondary figure behind character which is awkward, general rule is to never crop the head and never have strong lines behind the head. Composition is something you should figure out early btw, this seems a bit too far into the work to be figuring out composition, although with digital of course you an always correct it.

[Anonymous No.7093492]

>>7093476
>be my boyfriend
haha thanks. that defnitely made my day better
>>7093485
ty, been trying to fiddle more with nailing cloth and hands more. Onto next one, painting number 2,882.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7093497]

>>7093472
Hmmm i see, i kinda tried to make it look like shes slightly lifting her sword as in a threatening way, her pose was like standing still while strong wind blows, like if she was in an open field.

I guess the foreshortening on the arm didnt go well, thats why it feels the arm is too short, and honestly i have no idea on what to do with the hair.

I kinda didnt like your left leg, looks centaurish in my opinion, but yeah i get what you mean with the rest, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.7093502]

Does this look 3d?
Plz forgive me very beg.

[Anonymous No.7093507]

>try to draw cute girl
>get a guy
I unironically don't know what happened....(aside from the angle being completly wrong on the head)

[Anonymous No.7093510]

>>7093502
honestly, who cares if it's 3d? Proportions are way more important, and your proportions are off

[Anonymous No.7093512]

>>7093490
who is soda

[Anonymous No.7093518]

>>7093507
the angle
the proportions
the model being pretty androgynous in the first place

[Anonymous No.7093521]

>>7093518
>the proportions
Can you tell me what's off?

[Anonymous No.7093522]

>>7093490
You have some problems with me? You bitch!!!.
You niggas are killing my vibe.

[Anonymous No.7093524]

>>7093521
overlay your drawing over the reference

everything about it is off

[Anonymous No.7093530]

>>7093522
how come all you do is just post quick doodles like this, sodie? where's the in-depth stuff

[Anonymous No.7093531]

>>7093524
You really piss me off.

[Anonymous No.7093532]

>>7093395
Now I can't unsee it.

>>7093404
>Are you creating these from scratch?
From imagination? I was using pic as a base ref and then referenced artists I like as I went along. I should have payed more attention to ref in a few places.

>>7093424
>>7093428
These are very nice. Definitely feeling that form.

>>7093440
Love the rendering. Your colour selection is great. Is it just a flat base + shadow?

[Anonymous No.7093537]

>>7093530

[Anonymous No.7093539]

>>7093537
dope

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7093541]

>>7093472
Eh, i couldnt fix it, ill take the feedback for my next drawing.

Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.7093555]

>>7093541
That's looks good man, don't worry about it, I like the edge highlights on her skirt, and the apron fold suggests the direction of the wind. What I do almost mechanically when doing line art though, is use the eraser to sharpen things that are supposed to be sharp, like the tips of her hair there.

[Anonymous No.7093556]

>>7093289
Imagine being so arrogant you draw this and think you can advice on drawing to anyone ever

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7093559]

>>7093555
Heh thanks, ill take that feedback as well, unfotunately the crude tool/website i use has ONE brush size only so its hard to give it a sharp look.

[Anonymous No.7093560]

>>7093289
do all anti-drawabox fags draw like this?

[Anonymous No.7093561]

fanart i made still learning how to use markers and the perspective is wrong. extremely nsfw.

https://files.catbox.moe/wl3jkx.jpg

[Anonymous No.7093562]

>>7093470
>Looks like 90's VHS anime, but much less expressionless
Yeah, that's what I was going for. Glad it shows.
>>7093532
>Love the rendering. Your colour selection is great. Is it just a flat base + shadow?
Thanks. Yeah, I added flat color + shadows and highlights and then some noise on top.

[Anonymous No.7093564]

>>7093560
Yes, but drawabox fags are even worse, believe it or not.

[Anonymous No.7093571]

>>7093561
hands seem way too big + idk what's going on with his balls but i like the details on the muscles, qt moose too

[Anonymous No.7093574]

>>7093571
i actually just like big hands

[Anonymous No.7093588]

[Anonymous No.7093594]

>>7093588
qt!

[Anonymous No.7093596]

[Anonymous No.7093601]

>>7093561
>>7093594
>How to draw penis
https://e-hentai.org/g/1504979/ad4cbbddf6/

[Anonymous No.7093609]

>>7093601
thanks :)

[Anonymous No.7093617]

horror

[Anonymous No.7093620]

>>7093490
WHO YOU CALLIN' LOST CAUSE?????

[Anonymous No.7093622]

>>7093609

[Anonymous No.7093624]

>>7093601
Trying to explain how to draw dicks while still having to abide by the jap censorship laws might just be the funniest shit I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.7093626]

>>7093556

[Anonymous No.7093627]

>>7093596
Nice clean lines. What really jumps at me is that the outer corners of the eyes are not on the same level, it's an important detail that defines the overall character of a face to a large extent, so pay special attention to it. Decide on the eye shape, there are only a few types really. Also, drawing models with smooth baby-like features is not a good way to practice face construction.

It kinda looks like you're not very confident with where the various features of the face are in relation to each other. The upper lip hangs over the lower lip, on the last drawing it looks like it's behind it. The lower eyelid usually slightly covers the bottom of the iris. The fold on the upper eyelid, that the Asian women often lack and paint on with makeup, follows the cylindrical shape of the eyelid. Draw the pupil, it's important to learn to draw its position correctly, so many artists mess it up habitually.

Study the shape of the nostril, notice that it's not a bean shape but more like a spiral or the number 6, with the middle curl going up into the nose. It also has an outer corner, it's not on a flat plane usually. Why the fuck is it so hard to find a good nostril photo without some disgusting piercing in it.

Oh I think I get why the eyes are wonky, you are using curves to put the features on instead of lines. Use a straight line through the outer corners of the eyes.

[Anonymous No.7093631]

>>7093624
A classic for sure.

[Anonymous No.7093632]

>>7093626
i'll let him cook alright, but i ain't eatin

[Anonymous No.7093635]

Can someone explain line of action and gesture to me like I'm a retard (because I am one)? I can't figure out how to find it quickly, like if you do that "1 minute per pose" exercise.

[Anonymous No.7093637]

>>7093635
https://line-of-action.com/index.php/nl/article/gesture-basics-1-line-of-action

[Anonymous No.7093640]

>>7093632
Then you have Champagne Poetry.
It's the Pretty Boys versus the Petty Boys
sold out show, got a whole new set of toys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxE6wEuLHQ0

[Anonymous No.7093642]

[Anonymous No.7093643]

>>7093642
Why are you drawing me bro? You want some beef with me? Huh?

[Anonymous No.7093644]

>>7093531
>>7093537
And if the last negotiation had you feeling out of pocket
Well, this is perfect time that I empty them shits for sure
You owe that shit to the boy, yeah

[Anonymous No.7093647]

>>7093644
:)

[Anonymous No.7093655]

>>7093617
>>7093642
You bitches are the thorns in my asshole. I hate you. HATEEEE! REEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[Anonymous No.7093661]

>>7093655
CAN'T YOU SEE WE GOTTA FUCKING DRAW????

[Anonymous No.7093663]

[Anonymous No.7093677]

>>7093420
You've got the right idea m8. You need to be able to recreate things you see to some degree of accuracy, get comfortable navigating the 2D surface of the canvas before delving into the 3D space behind it. You'll most likely be pretty lost if you tried to jump straight to Loomis right now. I do recommend to at least skim through some Loomis to see what it's about, though.
Also nothing saying that you have to grind your way through the entirety of KtD before looking into Betty Edward's book either. They both deal with observational drawing, and having more than one perspective of the problem is useful.

[Anonymous No.7093697]

>>7093640
I don't listen to and don't read niggerspeak, could you reword it in human terms?

[Anonymous No.7093702]

>>7093635
Don't do "1 minute pose" exercises on your level, this is too little time for a beg, take your time to study, understand and draw gesture. Set your timer to 5-10 minutes and only take it as a suggestion to stop, rather than hard time limit. It should only be a reminder to not spend hours on polishing a single turd.
You can do 1 minute gesture, when you are already decent at gesture to grind a lot of them, but not now.

[Anonymous No.7093711]

>>7093702
I feel like 5-10 minutes is already pushing into the "polishing a turd" territory. I read that you're supposed to be fast and loose with those, focusing more on improvement through sheer mileage than any individual gesture's accuracy.

[Anonymous No.7093720]

I ask for advice. Every time I improve noticeably, I tend to lose interest in continuing to draw. Have you experienced something similar?

[Anonymous No.7093722]

>>7093720
NOPE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBkjMt7_3qo

[Anonymous No.7093728]

>>7093642
Fucking wanker sneak-dissing me face. Fook you chump. Imma stab the fuck out of you.

[Anonymous No.7093730]

>>7093058

[Anonymous No.7093732]

[Anonymous No.7093733]

>>7093642
I hate your linework. I hate your shading. I hate your drawing subject. I hate you as a human being!!!!!

[Anonymous No.7093735]

>>7093732
try adding texture with your lines instead of the chicken scratching; the gun is the worst offender, but the lines have squandered the potential to make the hair pop as well

[Anonymous No.7093736]

I want to redraw some stuff from old western comics. Are there any sites with repositories that you could recommend?

[Anonymous No.7093738]

>>7093732
good stuff, please share socials

[Anonymous No.7093741]

>>7093736
Getcomics

[Anonymous No.7093748]

Hello again
Today i'll draw heads at some point
For now here's oc i doodled last night
Idk i think he looks cool

[Anonymous No.7093750]

>>7093720
Me too, except I don't even improve.

[Anonymous No.7093754]

>>7093663
Mustache era George Galloway was the most aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.7093761]

>>7093733
:'((
>>7093738
@eridhaaa333

[Anonymous No.7093762]

Resized it and tried to get it to be a little more clear with photoshopz. Did these two portraits the last two days off random models I thought were cute, the resemblance turned out very low. I try to do so much measuring but it rarely turns out the way I want. I'm gonna keep grinding

[Anonymous No.7093763]

>>7093507
>>7093521
>can you tell me what's off?
NTA but the issue is that you're not even drawing what you're seeing. You're drawing anime symbols vaguely in the shape of your reference. Nothing wrong with drawing anime but, you know, if you want to capture a subject's likeness you actually need to draw what you see.

[Anonymous No.7093764]

>>7093733
>>7093761
Just kidding bro.

[Anonymous No.7093769]

>>7093761
get a trip so I can filter you

[Anonymous No.7093770]

>>7093333
Just do it anytime. Draw what you want first then study whatever you want to improve on, then test yourself again with another drawing then repeat

[Anonymous No.7093778]

salt lamp study

[Anonymous No.7093810]

>>7093778
Ooooh, that's gorgeous anon.

[Anonymous No.7093817]

>>7093510
Is this bad then?

[Anonymous No.7093824]

>>7093502
>>7093817
Only your blocky looks bad.

[Anonymous No.7093826]

[Anonymous No.7093827]

>>7093826

[Anonymous No.7093829]

>>7093827

[Anonymous No.7093867]

>knowledge of anatomy doesn't get you to draw cute anime girls
it's so over

[Anonymous No.7093889]

>>7093826
anon please tell me how do i draw faces like that

[Anonymous No.7093891]

>>7093889
lol

[Anonymous No.7093893]

>>7093889
Good ol' Loomis

[Anonymous No.7093895]

>>7093893
>loomis
>good

[Anonymous No.7093896]

>>7093891
why are you laughing? :[
>>7093893
But that teaches me how to make a proper head. I wanna do animu head

[Anonymous No.7093897]

>>7093896
here you go

[Anonymous No.7093898]

>>7093896
That's what I use for construction though, learned that from Loomis

[Anonymous No.7093899]

>>7093898
I thought loomis tells you to put the line through the middle of the circle and put the eyebrows there. Why is it way below and in the middle of the yes? I'm not confused now....

[Anonymous No.7093900]

>>7093899
This cross section is used to outline the general direction of the face, not the eyebrow placement.

[Anonymous No.7093901]

>>7093900
I thought it was for those two reasons. Eyebrow placement (hence eyes below it) and where the face is facing. (?)

[Anonymous No.7093902]

>>7093218
same girl
same hair
same tits

[Anonymous No.7093903]

>>7093901
Eyes must be placed inside those two circles, don't mind the direction line. Those are eye sockets in the skull.

[Anonymous No.7093904]

>>7093251
Didn't notice I got the folder to 5+.
Just download the female folder I guess

[Anonymous No.7093906]

>>7093903
i can't tell if you're being an asshole or not

[Anonymous No.7093908]

>>7093642
Hey leave her alone

[Anonymous No.7093910]

>>7093906
I am not, that's the best advice I can give on the drawing heads.

[Anonymous No.7093911]

>>7093903
Okay, but the cross line usually denotes the top of the eye sockets. Otherwise how would you know where to place them?

[Anonymous No.7093912]

>>7093910
I'm mostly asking how do you know where to put the eyes and you answer in the eyes sockets. The question still remains but now "where do you know exactly where the eyes sockets are". But i just feel like you gonna say "you just know it".

[Anonymous No.7093913]

Just use Loomis retards

[Anonymous No.7093914]

>>7093901
Don't listen to the other guy, It is the eyebrow line in the actual loomis method. That said if you want to use loomis for anime heads you'll need to modify the proportions depending on the style.

[Anonymous No.7093916]

>>7093911
You have to guess and use your dimensional thinking, I guess. That's what I do. Try practicing it idk. The main rule of thumb is to place them inside the sockets.

>>7093912
See above

[Anonymous No.7093919]

>>7093916
>hey where do you place the sockets
>oh no problem the main rule of thumb is to place them inside the sockets
Thanks, Loomis retard.

[Anonymous No.7093926]

>>7093897
That's a pretty neat permutation of the loomis head

[Anonymous No.7093934]

>>7093098
>Top
Nose is too long, and then you followed through with the face. Had the nose been slightly shorter, everything would have been perfect

>Bottom
You made the nose shorter, but its clear you're not as confident in the second go. Go to bed, sleep, try again

[Anonymous No.7093950]

What's the best way to upload your traditional sketches/drawings online? Just point a phone camera at the paper and take a picture of it? Or scan it? How do you do it?

[Anonymous No.7093959]

>>7093914
Just one question. Do that said line always cuts through the middle of the circle?

[Anonymous No.7093963]

>>7093959
Yes, it always wraps around the middle of the SPHERE, you can see this if the character is looking straight into the camera. If the character is looking down or up it will be foreshortened.

[Anonymous No.7093968]

>>7093338
short lower legs, particularly the right
foot on right is resting either on the campfires base or in thin air, not on the ground
handle of sword is nicely lit, but the blade seems to have the shadow side closest to the lightsource(fire)
deltoid on the left seems to be shriveled like a raisin, serratus leading into back is a little too bulbous
if you look at just the thumbnail, its not super clear whats going on because the black skin is overlapping the darkest parts of the background. could apply generous lighting to his entire torso, or change background to improve readability

i believe in you

[Anonymous No.7094004]

>>7093919
You shouldn't call him a retard when you are the one struggling

[Anonymous No.7094036]

kinda left drawabox after uncomfortable literally roleplayed in some of the discord chats.

[Anonymous No.7094047]

>>7094036
people who hang out in discord chats are weird desu

4chan is much cooler i know i know

[Anonymous No.7094052]

>>7094047
Unironically, I kinda regret joining dab but not that much it taught me perspective, line control etc.

The thing was is that I didn't really build a habit, I did the 50% rule, but never drew everyday. Just once in a while.

I'm on lesson 3, I can easily complete it. But keys to drawing taught me so much and I'm on lesson 1.

For reference this is me >>7093420 that's day 28, and this was me day 1.

[Anonymous No.7094088]

I've been symbol drawing and doodling since I was a toddler. I'm now two years past the legal adult age and have realized that I should learn to draw properly, especially since I'm a huge storyteller/writer and don't want to go broke paying people to draw my ideas for me. Primarily, I want to create simple offbeat cartoons, but obviously, I need to learn the fundamentals so I'm not terrible at it.

Since I've been drawing basic circles and squares my entire life, should I just move onto the studies portion of the hackmd sticky?

[Anonymous No.7094093]

>>7093058
>that OP
wew lad

[Anonymous No.7094094]

zzz daily gesture grind number 10
so much less painful than the early ones, both to do and to look at

[Anonymous No.7094098]

>>7093377
Thanks for the recs.
I started drawing on the right side of the brain and I just reached the part where you have to draw.
Is it necessary to do the exercises with the materials listed or can I do it digitally?

[Anonymous No.7094099]

>>7094052
>>7094088
https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

do this shit bro, except you should use taco anatomy instead of Bridgman, if you wanna draw anime

[Anonymous No.7094101]

>>7094098
you can do it digitally. and you don't need the viewfinder, your fingers will work instead. google how to make a viewfinder with your fingers

[Anonymous No.7094113]

>>7094099
What is taco?

[Anonymous No.7094116]

>>7094113
delicious mexican meal

jk it's an anatomy book. just google it

[Anonymous No.7094125]

>>7094088
lol is that problem solverz? based

[Anonymous No.7094133]

from life. feelsgood bros

will give crits later after my belly is full

[Anonymous No.7094136]

>>7094133
cute...

[Anonymous No.7094142]

I think one of the biggest mistake /begs/ make is jumping straight into anatomy, construction and fundies before honing their OBSERVATION skills.
Don't get me wrong fundies are amazing but especially at the start you really need to develop your eyes and hand coordination by copying a lot of shit. You can't study or learn from a manual if you are utterly unable to reproduce what's on it.

[Anonymous No.7094153]

>>7094142
no that's wrong construction will magically let me create anything I want fuck that copying shit

[Anonymous No.7094155]

>>7094142
>>7094153
but copying random shit is boring tho, and with construction you can just draw your own shit from imagination

[Anonymous No.7094156]

>>7094099
Do i beggin and only draw the practice from that certain step or do i try to make original stuff alongisde each step thats not really linked to that study?

[Anonymous No.7094157]

>>7094155
>construction you can just draw your own shit from imagination
kek. the lies that beginners believe

[Anonymous No.7094158]

>>7094156
Make some original stuff that implements elements of the study. That's the best way to balance fun.

[Anonymous No.7094171]

>>7094142
yea i fell for that meme too
a-at least i'll be ahead when i get there right bros

[Anonymous No.7094176]

>>7094142
I don't think it matters that much, art is quite non-linear
observation and perspective/form can even be trained at the same time by just looking at stuff and simplifying into basic volumes (but keeping their proportions)

[Anonymous No.7094181]

>>7094176
>observation and perspective/form can even be trained at the same time by just looking at stuff and simplifying into basic volumes (but keeping their proportions)
I tried this for many years, and in my experience, you improve slower this way. It's like learning to ride a bike while singing at the same time. You're better off blocking things in with straight lines first, then adding volumes on top. The difference is very small, but just splitting it up into 2 steps, even within the same drawing, makes a big difference

[Anonymous No.7094184]

[Anonymous No.7094186]

>>7094181
>You're better off blocking things in with straight lines first, then adding volumes on top
aren't you training both by doing this?
i.e. blocking things in by carefully observing, then being aware of perspective and volume

[Anonymous No.7094190]

>>7094153
>>7094155
>>7094176
Don't get me wrong construction is an absolute fundamental skill to draw anything from imagination and it's even a requirement for making decent portraits. What I'm saying is that I'm seeing too many /beg/s draw a circle, a cross and then fill it with malformed symbol drawings. And thinking that doing this 200 times will make them better.
It's like studying to be an engineer but you're semi illiterate and you only retain 20% of the info you read. So you start cramming a fuckton of book when the smartest move would be to learn how to properly read first.

[Anonymous No.7094192]

[Anonymous No.7094200]

>>7094192
Question to anons:
Did you try drawing horror?

[Anonymous No.7094209]

>>7094190
Then what do you recommend anon

[Anonymous No.7094212]

>>7093826
>>7093827
>>7093829
These are nice anon
I like the vampire astronaut

[Anonymous No.7094215]

Finally finished a portrait in color, it's a lot harder than black and white only and i think it took me 3 times as long.

[Anonymous No.7094218]

>>7094200
been considering it once I get decent enough at observation and can hop into other fundies

[Anonymous No.7094220]

no pose this thread?

[Anonymous No.7094222]

>>7094220
Here you go, anon

[Anonymous No.7094232]

>>7093950
>>7093950
>>7093950
Anybody?

[Anonymous No.7094236]

>>7094232
Buy a scanner

[Anonymous No.7094238]

>>7094232
fax machine

[Anonymous No.7094239]

>>7094232
Isn't it obvious?
1. HQ scan
2. HQ photo
3. LQ scan
4. LQ photo

[Anonymous No.7094240]

>>7094232
Scanning provides a higher resolution and you don't get distorted pics because you angled your phone a bit wrong.

[Anonymous No.7094242]

it looks like i am physically incapable of having any kind of observation skill. Everything about this picture is absolutely wrong. What is the remedy for me? Should i just stop, stop hurting myself?

[Anonymous No.7094244]

>>7094242
It might seem like a joke, might seem like bait and i'm doing this on purpose but no
Do any of you feel bad about your art? Look at this.

[Anonymous No.7094245]

>>7094242
I'm gonna bite on the off-chance that you're not just looking for validation:
What's so tragically wrong with it? Sure the proportions are off, especially the arm, but make 20 more with that in mind and you'll see improvement

[Anonymous No.7094246]

>>7094244

Learn to measure

[Anonymous No.7094247]

>>7094242
>>7094244

[Anonymous No.7094251]

>>7094245
Look at the lower leg. The shape it makes. The negative space of the photo and the drawing.

[Anonymous No.7094257]

>>7094246
>>7094247
ty for answers

[Anonymous No.7094259]

>>7094209
learn to observe, idiot

[Anonymous No.7094260]

>>7094259
>learn to do something that's entirely dependant on your genetics

[Anonymous No.7094261]

>>7094247
why is it bad to think this exactly? Isn't this an extremely objective observation about the dynamics and the range motion of the ankle? Why is it bad to notice and think of these things?

[Anonymous No.7094263]

>>7094260
I've read many retarded things on here, especially in the last few years. (You)'ve made top 10.

[Anonymous No.7094265]

>>7094261
Human body is an abomination that can bend twist and turn in insane incomprehensible ways (at least from a /beg/inner's perspective)

[Anonymous No.7094266]

>>7094263
>one of the most often regurgitated statements about art has made top 10 retarded things
You haven't seen that many actually retarded things, have you anon?

[Anonymous No.7094267]

>>7094266
Don't flatter yourself, it's ex aequo.
I gues you've managed to not mention ajan jeans so maybe top 20. I know that took restraint.

[Anonymous No.7094270]

Does anyone have any tips??? I like this i did yesterday but i just think somethings really off like i could have done much better (also if i do anything weird im sorry im shit at navigating this website lol)

[Anonymous No.7094271]

>>7094270
did you learn to draw by this book?

[Anonymous No.7094275]

>>7094271
Oh my god i see it now i feel terrible hahaha

[Anonymous No.7094276]

>>7094270
It's too busy, anon. Everywhere on the canvas has equal contrast, it's all unfocused.
Should read up on lesson 1 composition stuff. Bill perkins has a great video course, watch the introductory section

[Anonymous No.7094279]

>>7094270
Use the airbrush less, or not at all.

[Anonymous No.7094282]

>>7094270
well, it's a start (also based touhou choice)
I'd recommend starting with figuring out the head shape. The cheekbones are super off on all of them (the worst being the blue and yellow girl), same with the hands. It looks like you drew them by freehand instead of trying to construct them first via shapes.
That being said, I like the lighting on the clothes, and I personally think you did a good job with the hair (especially yellow and red, those highlights go hard).
Overall, just work on what the other anon said, along with anatomy stuff + construction.
t. fellow /beg/ yeah yeah blind leading the blind whatever

[Anonymous No.7094285]

>>7094209
As I said focus more on pure observation exercises. Integrate them in your fundies grind routine. Make an effort to correctly translate what you see into paper. Don't just think that bruteforcing cubes and random contruction lines will turn you into a great artist. Be it simple objects from life or even animu girls. Hell I remember watching Sinix and his sketchbook videos and I was surprised by the amount of pages filled with copies of Naruto characters.

[Anonymous No.7094292]

>>7094247
What book is this from?

[Anonymous No.7094295]

I dont know how right or wrong he is but common logic in this examples is not looking for/proclaim what is wrong with what you do but ask questions that will give you solution. You may think looking for solution is just logical next step of critical thinking but I'm not a teacher

[Anonymous No.7094296]

>>7094295
>>7094261

[Anonymous No.7094298]

>>7094285
Different anon here, can I literally just copy comics or other artists' drawings? At least at first.

[Anonymous No.7094300]

>>7094298
That's how 99% of artists start. Drawing things they like

[Anonymous No.7094301]

[Anonymous No.7094303]

I can copy other artists closely enough but I feel more like a xerox machine than an artist sometimes

[Anonymous No.7094306]

>>7094300
How do I cope with the fact that my copies look like ungodly abominations, and nowhere near the reference looks like or what I was intending to draw?

[Anonymous No.7094312]

>>7094306
Learn from children and don't care. If you still have fun, you're gmi up the wazoo.

[Anonymous No.7094314]

>>7094306
>>7094312
Should go without saying but books and video courses go a long way, just like analyzing your "abominations" and figuring out where you've gone wrong, then having that in mind for next drawing

[Anonymous No.7094316]

>>7094306
Fellow sufferbro!

[Anonymous No.7094317]

Hey homies, I am back with a full stomach, ready to serve your social media dopamine hits. Beware! The below is beg advice from a beg: >>7094133

>>7094270 that soul... I wish to draw like you sir.
As for comments, your composition is pretty cramped and cut off.Waay too much going on IMO Also I dont understand your idea with the earth balls, and they further cramp the composition and make it busier.
>>7094192 >>7094200 I think it would look better if you make the darks a lot darker and it would make it dramatic. still feels like a night scene though.
And I think about drawing horror stuff sometimes, I really like monsters, demonic shit and all that stuff, theyre really cool but have not yet done it much
>>7094136 y-you too!
>>7093826 >>7093827 >>7093829 based
>>7093762 thats a great job homie
>>7093730 I said this before but its true, you make loomis drawings look good
>>7093502 this is way above my skill level to advise but yeah I like it below the head.
>>7093432 kek
>>7093098 I think you should at least draw from "real" reference, not copy. The book is filled with drawings that capture a lot of information and not so finished yet look good, so feel that vibe.
>>7094306 keep going. It regularly happens that I make 3 terrible drawings full of mistakes and then out of nowhere the 4th will be way way better.

[Anonymous No.7094318]

>>7094292
first page of keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.7094321]

>>7094298
>>7094306
Yes. Again don't skip on your fundies, construction is a requirement for any artist worth jackshit and will even help make better copies. But copying things you enjoy is also good and will improve your observation and hand eye coordination.
>How do I cope with the fact that my copies look like ungodly abominations
Accept that you're still learning and make an effort to improve. Measure your reference to get down the rough proportions and then follow the lines. It's THAT easy.

[Anonymous No.7094327]

posting my last actual work based on muh friend's rimworld run
feedback would be greatly appreciated

[Anonymous No.7094328]

>>7094321
nta but I have the opposite problem as him. I can copy stuff pretty closely no problem but I can't make into its own thing. How do you go from copying other artists to developing your own style?

[Anonymous No.7094329]

>>7094328
Copying other artists will influence your style going forward.
I recommend Draftsmen episode about "art parents"

[Anonymous No.7094331]

>>7094142
>>7094190
You're gonna fuckin post your work or progress, mate?
I've seen so many dumbasses stuck on copying randomass manga panels and screenshots for literal years

[Anonymous No.7094333]

>>7094306
It doesn't hurt to start with basic drawings to copy if you're struggling. I always like to recommend pokemon because they're so simple and use basic appealing shapes that are worth practicing. Don't be afraid to spend more than an hour to copy something correctly. You'll get faster over time, but you need to take the time at first to catch and correct your errors.

[Anonymous No.7094336]

Hi, i'm a newbie pre-beg retard. My main goal is to learn how to draw humans. I don't need shading or composition or any of that stuff for now. I just want to draw somewhat non-shit humans.

What sources would you recommend? Do i just draw from refs until it clicks?
Feel free to ignore if this is a retarded-ass line of questioning.

[Anonymous No.7094337]

>>7094327
kek I like it

[Anonymous No.7094340]

>>7094336
https://archive.org/details/loomis_FIGURE_draw

[Anonymous No.7094341]

>>7094333
are you supposed to stop copying drawings after a certain point?

[Anonymous No.7094342]

>>7094328
If you're asking how to draw from imagination then that's where your fundies come into play. Construction, gesture, perspective, values, lighting etc.
If you're asking about style then yeah find artists that interest you and analyze what makes them unique. Is it the colors? Is it the lineart? What tools are they using?
Also don't be afraid to experiment from time to time, try different materials, brushes, textures etc.

[Anonymous No.7094343]

>>7094222

[Anonymous No.7094344]

>>7094336
pyw you probably mog me

[Anonymous No.7094345]

>>7094341
You're not "supposed" to do anything. You do what you like. Most people stop copying at some point because they want to focus on their own stuff

[Anonymous No.7094346]

>>7094345
NTA but what if i just dislike the fact that the final result being the worst fucking thing on earth, so bad not a single human on earth aside from me could've shit out?

[Anonymous No.7094347]

>>7094343
You need to measure. Compare the size of feet and head in the photo and then in your drawing

[Anonymous No.7094349]

>>7094340
Thank you. Hopefully my beg self will be able to learn from this.
>>7094344
Won't post because i haven't drawn in a while but i'm way way way worse.
How long did it takw you to get to this point? I'd be satisfied with only something slightly better than this as far as ability goes

[Anonymous No.7094350]

>>7094345
most of my stuff looks like shit when I'm not copying someones art. There's only 1 drawing I've done that came out decent without using someone elses art as ref

[Anonymous No.7094352]

>>7094346
Just don't show it to anyone and draw more.
Like a 1000 of your first drawings are not supposed to be worth looking at.

[Anonymous No.7094353]

>>7094346
That's literally inescapable if you're starting to draw as an adult. You either enjoy the process or you don't. If you don't, why draw anyway

[Anonymous No.7094358]

>>7094350
>>7094353

[Anonymous No.7094359]

>>7094353
that's the thing? I enjoy the process but i don't like the result. I like thinking about things then being able to draw them on canvas. But i'm not good enough to make them look at least pre/beg/ level

[Anonymous No.7094360]

>>7094347
wanted to make her thicker and more anime

[Anonymous No.7094364]

>>7094349
Something only slightly better*
>>7094353
I like the feeling of drawing but it's less enticing than vidya and porn. So if the end result is poop there's no immediate reason to do it over literally any other dopamine-rich activity.

[Anonymous No.7094367]

>>7094359
Refer to wise anon, if you enjoy drawing you're auto-gmi
>>7094352

[Anonymous No.7094370]

>>7094364
>I like the feeling of drawing but it's less enticing than vidya and porn. So if the end result is poop there's no immediate reason to do it over literally any other dopamine-rich activity.
That's a really good point I didn't consider. I think the solution is setting goals for yourself. Modest, managable goals

[Anonymous No.7094374]

>>7094367
based hopepill niggers not making ngmis quit so i can laugh at their shitty scribbles and feel better about myself whenever they post

[Anonymous No.7094376]

>>7094370
Yea. Getting better is really fun but you need to put in so much time and effort it's nuts.
I don't think most people were made for getting better at shit. The default is to do physical labour and then drink until you pass out

[Anonymous No.7094379]

>>7094374
Why don't you pyw? Might teach them something

[Anonymous No.7094380]

>>7094347
>You need to measure.
What's a good way to quickly get an approximate measure? I'm not supposed to literally measure everything out with a ruler, am I?

[Anonymous No.7094382]

>>7094367
Maybe i am retarded because i used to be in art discord and showcased many of my old drawings of my ocs
Of course it was trash and most i got from reaction was " bad art but characters have potential if they were drawn better"

[Anonymous No.7094383]

>>7094380
>>7093403

[Anonymous No.7094386]

>>7094380
>I'm not supposed to literally measure everything out with a ruler, am I?
Measuring is comparing dimensions of things in your reference so you may more accurately keep proportions in your drawing.
"OK, the foot is twice the length of the head" stuff like that

[Anonymous No.7094388]

>>7094380
>>7094386
Also angles between things, so that the leg doesn't bent way differently than in the ref, as an example

[Anonymous No.7094409]

>>7094215
Looks good!

[Anonymous No.7094420]

>try dry pastels
>when there's dust just blow on it lmao
>find out that's the worst thing I could do

Lots of trad material is a health hazard if you're not careful

[Anonymous No.7094423]

>>7094184

[Anonymous No.7094424]

>>7094301
Where can I masturbate to more of your work, im cummingggggggg

[Anonymous No.7094425]

>>7094341
Eventually you'll stop copying purely to train accuracy, but there are lots of reasons to copy. Basically any element of art can be practiced by copying a masterwork. Line quality, style, use of color and value, composition etc. Like >>7094345 says eventually you'll want to do your own work and you won't copy nearly as much but there won't ever be a time when you're beyond learning something new from a master copy.

[Anonymous No.7094430]

>>7094420
Breathing in a lil cadmium never hurt nobody.

[Anonymous No.7094437]

>>7094420
wait till you find out you're not supposed to lick your brush after using lead paint

[Anonymous No.7094440]

>>7094437
...you're not?

[Anonymous No.7094443]

>>7094430
A lil kidney failure isn't gonna discourage an intrepid anon

[Anonymous No.7094446]

You know what would be cool? If there was an app to build a library of references, with an option to select a random picture out of the library and maybe even upload your sketches to be attached to that reference. Surely it does not actually exist?

[Anonymous No.7094450]

>>7094446
It's paid but imo way worth it.
https://cubebrush.co/advanches/products/d9q6yq/gesturedrawing

[Anonymous No.7094466]

>>7094446
that is a pretty cool idea but to run it you'd need to either find a massive stock of free-redistribution refs or a photographer willing to sell commercial usage rights for reasonable prices, either seem unlikely

[Anonymous No.7094468]

How do I stop depression and cope with my life and the future of my country and this world and think positive eat healthy exercise meditate,clean and other chores, and finally, draw?


How do you do it without instantly thinking " AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" or

"I'M WASTING MY TIME I'M GOING TO DIE ONE DAY"

Or "I COULD MAKE MORE MONEY INSTEAD OF DRAWING OR DO DRUGS"

[Anonymous No.7094470]

[Anonymous No.7094471]

>>7094301
>>7094424

I can't look at shit like that anymore and not immediatly think "Yep that's another generic piece of AI art anime trash"

I'm sorry. It made me paranoid.

[Anonymous No.7094480]

>>7094270

Please copy some anime face in different views and learn why they look so off. Also the composition is kinda shit, could be more dynamic. Not enough negative space too. Their skirts lack deptht and proper folds though.

But overall good job with the shadows and hair

[Anonymous No.7094482]

>>7094094
ayyy I remember you bro you're improving. Just keep grinding everyday

[Anonymous No.7094484]

improvement?

[Anonymous No.7094487]

>>7094484
That's an abomination desu. Obviously needs more Loomis

[Anonymous No.7094498]

>>7094484
kinda, she looks like she's leaning too close to the camera, also those dagger nips lol
Try dragging the reference over your image and spot the differences (minus the artstyle change, of course)

[Anonymous No.7094501]

Third attempt now i got the angle right but face is wrong
Nose too short eye in wrong direction
There's no how for me
I gotta just do it until i get it

[Anonymous No.7094505]

>>7094470
This looks very sexy and promising please continue and give blog

[Anonymous No.7094511]

>>7094498
what about now?

[Anonymous No.7094516]

>>7094466
AI generated poses? Ever heard of that? Now go to work slave.

[Anonymous No.7094532]

>>7094511
Redraw it with all the advice in mind, don't attempt to polish a turd

[Anonymous No.7094536]

>>7094532
I don't really care enough to try this one again, I'll just do that on the next one

[Anonymous No.7094552]

finished the pose from the older thread

kinda stiff

[Anonymous No.7094585]

>>7094350
Great, that means you’ve already done half the work by training your observational skills and have tons of room for relatively easy improvement. You just have to analyze your references and try to think about why they drew things the way they did and how those decisions created an appealing piece. Then do an original drawing incorporating what you’ve hypothesized and see if you got it right or not by comparing your work to theirs. You can’t skip that step or the part where you suck at first. If you do this enough times you’ll improve a lot.

[Anonymous No.7094617]

>>7094585
when you say I should do an original drawing, do you mean I shouldn't use a reference anymore or do you mean try to do an original drawing but try to draw it in a similar way the reference did without being an exact copy?

[Anonymous No.7094639]

>>7094157
So for the rest of my life i just learn how to copy stuff?

[Anonymous No.7094643]

>>7094099
Anon, wich one from all the taco books? I've found like 3 called taco that talk about different things.....

[Anonymous No.7094667]

>>7094617
I assume doing your drawing is realising/composing your own idea whatever it is. creation. if you want to draw cat bathing in honey you can/need to look at images of cats and honey to know how they looks like -this is called using reference.

[Anonymous No.7094677]

>>7094667
well in my case I just like drawing hot video game/anime women in revealing outfits. I'll keep a reference of a drawing I like and I try to copy it but make it different enough to be its own thing. Would you still consider this an original drawing? Is it still original even if I used a reference like that?

[Anonymous No.7094681]

>>7094667
When you say "reference" you talk like a cat doing the same pose or just literally any cat in any other pose just to barely know how a cat looks?

[Anonymous No.7094696]

>>7094677
It's not telling what to do or enjoy, I'm another anon. but you asked should you use references in original work. if you want to draw chained Chun li stuffed with five dicks not looking at how chunli looks like aka using reference make sense only if you know it well already, same with whatever will help realize this fantasy, but more you know and less you need is better. but not knowing and not looking is silly, you will be stumbling in the dark and create nonsense, why would someone prohibit you from looking - it make sense only as a test or for fun. I do not know how what you do looks like but I'm not telling you to stop doing it if this is what you enjoy.

[Anonymous No.7094712]

[Anonymous No.7094802]

>>7094424
>>7094471
I've spend 10 years of my life grinding drawing to be mocked around like that in the end. Should just kill myself at this point.

[Anonymous No.7094806]

>>7094802
I'm waiting 4 months already for someone to kill me and nothing happens. Being reckless and still doesn't happen. So i guess either do it by yourself or it doesn't happen.

[Anonymous No.7094855]

I tried drawing pixel art
It was really hard .
It's a wyvern with a slime next to it.

[Anonymous No.7094863]

@×@

[Anonymous No.7094880]

>>7094863
Very cute cowgirl slut, where can i masturbate to more of your work <3

[Anonymous No.7094919]

>>7094802
But anon I love your work, that's why I bothered to edit it and masturbate to it. I want to see more! Very sexy. :D

[Anonymous No.7094936]

>>7094802
I thought your drawing was good anon and I'm not being patronizing. I just don't praise every single piece I see in a thread, even the ones I think are decent

[Anonymous No.7094939]

I take it OP created the new thread and forgot to link it
>>7094438
>>7094438
>>7094438
>>7094438

[Anonymous No.7094960]

>>7094919
Ok then, i'm glad that you enjoy it. I like your edit, especially colors. I tried to follow specific color scheme sience it's redraw of my oc but i guess i can do it better.

>>7094936
Not searching for praise or whatever, i just like to post some drawings from time time, but when you work on something that made you a bit proud for how far you come to only get down by someone saying it's generic ai trash. It's actually devastating.