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I want to draw but literally everything about drawing looks too complex and difficult for me. I'm literally an ADHD; autistic special needs retard that doesn't know math beyond a fucking basic middle school level. Even just figuring out the perimeter of a rectangle was difficult for me.
Even this technique looks too difficult for me. Not to mention my whole body coordination is fucked thanks to tremors and I get overstimulated by looking at too many lines.

I don't know what to do. Should I even try?

>> No.7088446

Hello Howie, what's lacking from all the advice you've been given in the hundreds of threads you've made?

>> No.7088448

We have given you advice for months. Nothing will ever work for you. You will not draw.

>> No.7088454

I mean actual advice that works and not psycho analyzing me, berating me, talking down to me, telling me to give up, or giving blithe non responses. I mean, actual, genuine, legitimate advice.

>> No.7088458

No one here wants to give you genuine advice. You will not get advice from anyone here. You will never draw.

>> No.7088469

>blithe non responses.
Your post falls under this.

>> No.7088476

We will never give you actual advice. You can make hundreds more of these threads. No one here wants to help you. You will never draw.

>> No.7088480

Help, how do I not derail the thread? I have aphantasia, erectyl disfunction, autism, down syndrome, mutism, asperger, mutt genes, HDMI, seven fingers, heterochromia, porn addiction, taken the vax and an urge to derail the thread?

Please somebody tell me how to not derail the thread, I really want to know, and please dont attack me or else I wont know how to not derail the thread.

>> No.7088488

What would get me to leave and draw is if you give me actual advice.

>> No.7088490

>seven fingers
It was never our intent to help you. You can make hundreds more of these threads and you won't get any help from us. You will never draw.

>> No.7088503

>Soda, AIspammer, Howie are all simultaneously posting
Is this the designated schizo hour? Now I know what time to avoid posting here.

>> No.7088533

drawing is so infinitely more complicated than you think it is. it's so complicated that thinking about it is impossible. don't think, because you can't; just draw because that's all you can do about it.

>> No.7088534

can't you see it's fucking SCHIZO HOURS??? NIGGA PLEASE

>> No.7088559

Soda are you actually black? Because if not we're gonna have to have a talk

>> No.7088566

it's real schizo hours

>> No.7088571
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Let me put forth my drawings.

>> No.7088612

Dude that's literally fine you're just a retard.

>> No.7088618

That's not OP (Howie). That's LunaSoda who is this board's Sami.

>> No.7088665

>who is this board's Sami.
is that what the Pinkfag and her gang of Fujos and Faggots say?

>> No.7088710

maybe if you didnt feel so compelled to rattle off your rainbow skittles disorders at every opportunity

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The general consesus seems to be that taking meds that work for you helps with drawing so there is that

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Anyone who bumps this thread will receive five years of bad luck

>> No.7088730

I got diagnosed with ADHD when I was really young and that's how I went to go to a pediatrician for medication to help with it. I've also had a thyroid condition, but I've gotten it treated and the test results show as normal every time I've gotten my blood taken now that I'm on synthroid.

Give me actual advice.

>> No.7088732

Jokes on you i already have 30+ years of bad luck

>> No.7088734

I have 2900 years of good luck in my account already. I will be fine.

>> No.7088735

And? How do you perform with and without meds in comparison? Wasnt an advice just a general statement without knowing you well, if that still doesnt work for you then tough luck lol

>> No.7088772

Not helpful. Give me actual advice.

>> No.7088825

Imagine if you spent all this time actually drawing instead of looking for excuses and whining.

>> No.7088836

Is this some form of a copypasta?
Pretty sure there was a same thread with same words except the other guy added left handed
Even if it's different howiefag why the fuck are so many artists adhd and autists?

>> No.7089124

Because I don't understand how to draw.

>> No.7089126

I am literally on 70mg of Vyvanse on a long acting dosage every single day and I still can't get myself to do anything other than lay in my bed, looking at my phone or playing a video game for a couple of hours at most. I'm medicated and it does nothing for me.

>> No.7089130

just like draw picture

>> No.7089134

How do I draw? What's the process? What techniques? What motions of my arms? What construction techniques?

>> No.7089136


Example of his past exchanges:
>Yes. Your drawings are careless and rushed.
>Google "How to Draw Freehand Straight Lines"
>I'm drawing with my shoulders and elbows. This is the best I can do.
>Then you're resistant to advice that already helped hundreds of thousands artists world wide aka retarded.
>What other "advice" is there? I Googled exactly what was asked and that's what came up.
>Sigh. No anon. You don't skip and jump from one technique to another until it works. You pick one and grind it until it clicks.
>What other techniques are there? You haven't told me a single one. The arm and elbow is literally what every fucking piece of advice tells me to do.

Every reply by this mental case is designed to foist the burden of improving onto the other person. Note how he always vacillates between begging for advice, then finding a way to disregard advice.
Whenever you give him advice, he will whine about how he can't do it.
If you follow up, explaining how to do it, or challenging him, he will whine about the explanation not working for him. He will make excuses and ask for explanations of more and more basic things beyond the point of absurdity.
He will insist he wants to do something, then turn around and claim he doesn't know what he wants to do.
He will never post examples of his attempts, or post scribbles done with minimum effort.
He will try to bait you into meta-discussions, about himself and why he sucks.
When you eventually give up, he will start whining again that there is no good advice.

STOP giving him attention. He is mentally ill and has remade this same thread over and over, because HE IS NOT LOOKING FOR ADVICE. HE WANTS YOU TO ENGAGE IN HIS PITY PARTY.

>> No.7089140

Or maybe it's that the advice doesn't work or I'm genuinely having trouble following it and it's not some giant conspiracy/psycho analytical shit you're trying to spout.

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I remember giving you actionable, good faith advice in the first thread you showed up in asking for advice. I find you sad. /ic/ is where your daily social interactions peak, and it's obvious from your posts.
>Le don't psychoanalyze me!!!
Then don't bring up your psychological issues, as you did in your first ever post and have continued in every post since.
t. sage

>> No.7089324

I left this board for several months and can’t believe he’s still here saying the exact same things.

>> No.7089391

oh damn

>> No.7089416
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yor forger

>> No.7089521

No matter how much you beg plead or cry don’t give that paper back to him ever

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>> No.7089612

that’s bullshit

>> No.7089617

you are crazy

>> No.7089859

fuck this boring thread im drawing shaman king (that's where OP's pic is from)

>> No.7089864

Why is adhd a disadvantage? I have un medicated adhd and I can draw for like 7 hours straight without realising I think it’s called hyper focus idk just do that bro

>> No.7089874

where the fuck is your energy bro?

>> No.7089911

god damn hip hop is terrible

>> No.7090018

Heya howie!

>> No.7090043

literally just draw. doesn't matter what it is, a square, a animu girl, just put your pencil on paper, clear out your thoughts to the best of your ability, and just draw, man. i don't even care if this is bait or some copypasta meme just DO IT

>> No.7090045

Using what techniques? How?

>> No.7090056

Draw a stickman.

>> No.7090061

I want to draw something that's good. Not just drawing stickmen.

>> No.7090072

Where do I even start with learning fundamentals?

>> No.7090081

You will not draw. No advice will help you.

>> No.7090082

How do I decide which advice is good? I don't want to take bad avice and waste my time.

>> No.7090195

If you can't do it instantly, effortlessly, and it doesn't solve all your problems, it's bad advice

>> No.7090237

So good advice does not exist and everyone on this board is full of shit.

>> No.7090309

How do you expect to run without knowing how to walk? How do you expect to walk without knowing how to crawl

You want to run a marathon and haven't even started crawling. When people tell you to start with the simple stuff you disregard it. All the advice is useless because YOU are the one receiving it.

Even a chimp is able to take crayons and paint and make artwork. Good? Not at all but even then your current attitude makes you infinitely less capable than a chimp. You are more like a really stupid and lazy animal, like a sloth.

Yes. Please leave

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>> No.7091135

stop romanticizing something you'll never do, give up and move on

>> No.7091212

but like how

>> No.7091213

I just took a massive dump.

>> No.7091217

how do you take a dump? everyone just keeps telling me to take a shit but how??

>> No.7091221


You can only do it if you don’t have ADHD, or autism and are right-handed

>> No.7091226
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>mfw I have aphantasia and I cant visualize myself pushing out a turd

>> No.7091227

>I cant visualize myself pushing out a turd
That's a good thing by the way.

>> No.7091255


Okay I need a loredump

>> No.7091261
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Not only can stickmen be good, every good drawing is actually just a really really good stickman.

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>> No.7091437

QRD? I'm a newfag to this board

>> No.7092010

Which is it

>> No.7092365

you draw.

>> No.7092370

Then am I not inserted in anything at all? Because this is what it's like for literally everything that I've ever tried doing. Every single artistic or creative hobby I've ever tried, I've given up immediately, because I don't know or don't understand what I'm supposed to do. I tried Source Filmmaker, GameMaker, Fire Alpaca, Blender, and I didn't know what the fuck to do and gave up immediately.

>> No.7092371

Yeah I like the idea of doing literally anything except laying in my room, jerking off and going to sleep. Am I seriously setting the bar too high?

>> No.7092375

just try again

>> No.7092624

With what and how? What are you suggesting I try again? The programs I listed or drawing?

>> No.7092681

Draw what, how and with what techniques?

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>> No.7092722

I recently found some techniques that essentially reshaped my mind and was able to draw again after 15 years of avoiding it. I get to draw every day now and am having a good time.

>> No.7092735

>some techniques that essentially reshaped my mind
Care to share them? Sounds exactly like what I am looking for.

>> No.7092739

I'll share them but it will take a bit of time to type out. Might need to type it and save as a picture. But I don't want to bother if you are not the real Howie. Proof is needed.

>> No.7092748

Nah, I'm not Howie, I was just passing by. But it sounds really interesting, like I said I've been looking for something like this for years.

>> No.7092752

Well to start you off, "I want to do it" and "I have to do it" became all muddled and demotivating. Shifting to "I get to draw" is vital. I get to draw!

>> No.7092904

Even shit like this is too complex for me.

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>> No.7092944

Okay, how is this supposed to help me with learning how to draw better or draw these stick figures better?

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>how is this supposed to hel
shut up bitch

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WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DRAW MORE SENRAN KAGURA, TAIMANIN ASAGI & FRIENDS, velvet crowe no relations to Russell Crowe and Blue reflection by mimicking the dishonest brush maker
won't you join me in this cause? if not then i must do it Solo like the majority of my life is

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>> No.7093001
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In Greek mythology, Cancer is identified with the crab that appeared while Heracles fought the many-headed Lernaean Hydra. Hercules slew the crab after it bit him in the foot. Afterwards, the goddess Hera, an enemy of Heracles, placed the crab among the stars
Legends relating to the order of the Chinese zodiac often include stories as to why the cat was not included among the twelve. Because the Rat tricked the cat into missing the banquet with the Jade Emperor, the cat was not included and was not aware that the banquet was going on and was not given a year, thus began the antipathy between cats and rats. It is possible domesticated cats had not proliferated through China at the zodiac's induction.[2]

Another legend known as "The Great Race" tells that all the animals in the zodiac were headed to the Jade Emperor. The Cat and Rat were the most intelligent of the animals, however they were both also poor swimmers and came across a river. They both tricked the kind, naïve Ox to assist them by letting them ride on its back over the river. As the Ox was approaching the other side of the river, the Rat pushed the Cat into the river, then jumped off the Ox and rushed to the Jade Emperor, becoming the first in the zodiac. All the other animals made it to the Jade Emperor, while the Cat was left to drown in the river after being sabotaged by the Rat. It is said that this is also the reason cats always hunt rats.

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>> No.7093007

I too love stickman fight animations

>> No.7093022

you have to be willing to have faith in the things you do and the people you get advice from
this place is probably a huge mixed bag of unverifiable info from people who may or may not be dunning krugers but people are rec'ing books and videos that are from pros who have shown their worth so thats something
But even if they're good we don't know if they're good for you and you don't know either so you have to go with faith. thats an important aspect of being disciplined.

If thats not enough for you maybe just pay for a mentor instead of spinning your wheels

>> No.7093039

Every single art guide I've ever seen looks too complex for me. Every art program looks too complex for me.

>> No.7093185

Get a pencil and paper, print a simple cartoon, then trace. Get a feel for shapes and lines that make a drawing. Trace a simple cartoon(patamon? Kirby?) 2 or 3 times. Then try draw it using those motions you just practiced. Muscle memory will help here. Works with simple shapes.

Will you take this advice?

>> No.7093190

inb4 "But how", "I don't understand it", "With what techniques I don't get it", "That won't help me give me real advice", "I have ADHD, autism, diarrhea and diabetes", "I can't do it just like I can't do anything I just masturbate and scroll the phone"

>> No.7093194

then pay for a mentor who'd be willing to explain things you don't understand

>> No.7094518

With SUPER money I bet

>> No.7095472

I don't have a screen big enough to trace nor a printer.

>> No.7095477

No advice will ever get you to draw.

>> No.7095479

Because the advice isn't good nor conforms to what I'm capable of doing with my current resources.

>> No.7095480

Buy one. Buy a printer. They are cheap as shit. Or take the files to a printshop/local place with a printer, or ask a relative with a printer. Now why did you post instead of thinking of that yourself?

>> No.7095483

No one here wants to give you good advice. No advice will get you to draw. You will never draw.

>> No.7095484

>the advice isn't good
I took his advice and have already made progress.

>> No.7095485

Drawing standing up makes my back and arms hurt.

>> No.7095488

I guess that's it.. there no way to buy a lightbox from AliExpress for 10$ it's over.

>> No.7095490

>I don't have a physical address
>I live in the woods
>I have no bank account
>Asians scare me
>My mother's name is Alli and I fear her
>I don't want to waste money on something that might not help me

>> No.7095491

How do I buy from there?

>> No.7095492

I literally don't have my own house or Amazon account. I already said I'm a legitimate special needs retard that's still living with their parents.

>> No.7095496

>living with their parent
Ask your mom to buy it

>> No.7095497

Special needs retards can't take advice. We don't want retards like you alive. You should opt for euthanasia. We will not give you advice that will help you.

>> No.7095500

Same way you do any online shopping

>> No.7095501

I'm not buying more shit to clog up my room with. Enough with this bullshit. Give me actual advice.

>> No.7095502

No advice will ever help you. We don't want to give you useful advice. You will not draw.

>> No.7095503

Then stop spamming every reply i make.

>> No.7095504

>I'm not buying more shit to clog up my room with.
What did you clog your room with? You have a bed, a desk, a PC and monitor... You don't have any other hobbies, so what causing the clog? Used tissues?

>> No.7095508

Various different electronics that I've never used even after thinking i wanted to use them. Barely even touched my drawing tablet.
I shouldn't have to buy more electronics just to draw something.

>> No.7095515

>I shouldn't have to buy more electronics just to draw something.
Buy tracing paper instead. A lightbox is convenient, but there's more than one way to skin a cat. There are no valid excuses. Every single one is countered by common sense. Think of a new excuse, go on I dare you.

>> No.7095525

No. You need to understand no one will give you useful advice. No one these past months has given you advice that worked. No one in the future will give you advice that will work. You will not draw. Do you understand this?

>> No.7095526

I've already said I don't have a way of ordering it myself.

>> No.7095527

Counterpoint: no

>> No.7095528

No one these past months has given you advice that worked. No one in the future will give you advice that will work. You will not draw. Do you understand this?

>> No.7095530

Stop spamming.

>> No.7095531

No you. You will not get help here.

>> No.7095533

Stop spamming. You're going to get me to leave this thread because you want me to.

>> No.7095537

It's been months and no one has helped you. No one will help you. You will not draw. Stop spamming these threads every day.

>> No.7095539

Does your mom cook you food? Grab some baking paper from the kitchen you dirty goblin.

>> No.7095541

It's been months and no one has been able to help you. Why do you think that is?

>> No.7095542

Yes she does.

>> No.7095546

Months? Well over a year by now. >>7095542
Then she would be willing to help get some paper for you.

>> No.7095551

I already have a sketchbook. All I can do is draw circles until I get bored, stop and look at my phone again.

>> No.7095552

It's been a year and no one has been able to help you. Why do you think that is?

>> No.7095562

On the very rare occasion when I can actually draw, I can never actually make sense of drawing what I want to.

>> No.7095564 [DELETED] 

Answer the question: It's been a year and no one has been able to help you. Why do you think that is?

>> No.7095585

Why does he keep making these threads?

>> No.7095591
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Wow. The human brain is a such a brilliantly complex thing.

>> No.7095600

I would love to give you advice, but I don't know how.

>> No.7095601
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if you never end up achieving your drawing goals, or whatever, OP, how do you think you'll feel? What if nobody can give you advice that works for you? What would you do then?

>> No.7095625

Howie avoids the question because it would conflict his modus operandi.

>> No.7095634

Howie doesn't want help. He wants to make threads.

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It sounds to me like this guy has learned himself into a helplessness hole so deep he can't even see the sun anymore.

You identify as a retard, and retards don't draw, so you won't draw. ADHD, autism, whatever the fuck. You believe it, and so you become it. And you refuse to see beyond it. And so you let it rule you.
You try to draw, you try new things, but the new things are too hard, so you give up! Then because you know no things, you lack the confidence to try things at all anymore. So, as a result, you effortlessly lean back into your comfortable retardedness that you know so well. You do what's easy. You pick up your phone. You scroll. You make another thread asking for advice.

What you are really doing is avoiding pain. You are avoiding the pain of learning. You are avoiding the pain of making differences in your life. You are avoiding the pain of change.

Unfortunately, art, drawing, making an Amazon Account, etc... all these things involve some modicum of Pain. Lots of pain. Constant pain. The greatest artists of all time that we read about in history books and on Wikipedia and shit were able to suffer through this pain. That's what made them great. And it's because you lack the CONFIDENCE to start and the PERSERVERANCE to keep going that you will never be able to face that pain and work through it. And the more you believe in your retardation symptoms holding you down the more likely it is you will never able to OVERCOME them.
You will never suffer. And so, by sticking to that principle, you will never draw.

>> No.7096016


NO amount of buying new tools, downloading new programs, or watching how other people do it is going to make YOU DO IT. This is what the other retards on this board mean by you needing an attitude adjustment and not drawing advice. YOU OWN NOTHING IN YOUR LIFE BUT THE MIND HIDING BEHIND YOUR EYES. There is no pencil. There is no Amazon Account. There is no Mom cooking you dinner. ALL THAT EXISTS IS YOUR PERCEPTION. If your perception is fucked up, how can YOU expect to DO anything?

So, change your perception. How do you change? You suffer.
Change is too hard? Suffer.
Learning is too hard? Suffer.
Can't draw more than circles? Suffer.
Draw something different. Persevere. Suffer.
You will get better. It will be hard. You can take a break. Then you can continue to suffer.

A friend of mine once told me that if creativity isn't literally pouring out of you then you shouldn't be in art. You want it so bad? Try, motherfucker. SUFFER. DO SOME FUCKING JUMPING JACKS, GET PUMPED, PUT THE PENCIL TO PAPER, AND TRY. SUFFER. TRY. That'll make the difference between ASKING people to care about you because you're so fucking helpless and people WANTING to care about you because you're so fucking based that they won't not want to.

Now go watch some tutorials and draw some shit. And don't post again until you're done.

>> No.7096065 [DELETED] 

>A friend of mine once told me that if creativity isn't literally pouring out of you then you shouldn't be in art.
I've never been able to come up with a ton of creative ideas. Only very rarely if ever.

>> No.7096066

>A friend of mine once told me that if creativity isn't literally pouring out of you then you shouldn't be in art.
So then I shouldn't be in art? Because I only have random spurs of creativity.
I've been doing full body workouts, lost 20 pounds and got new meds. It didn't make me do anything. I was still just laying in my bed afterwards.

>> No.7096071

I'm on a huge dosage of adderall every day. I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby and have gotten lazy over the years with my only actual one which is writing and the only reason I'm good at writing is because I wanted people to be able to understand what the fuck I was saying and I wanted to write good stories because I thought I'd never be able to make them in a visual medium, but that's it. I've never been able to commit to a serious routine, schedule, or anything. I just sit in my room online doing basically nothing.
A higher dosage of vyvanse anti anxiety medication. This is on top of a booster dosage I'm taking each day too. My mind and my body locks up and prevents me from actually doing anything. Usually either out of anxiety or my mind and my body simply just locking up and telling me "What the fucks the point"? And just making me look back at my phone again or just stimming and staring at a wall.

Legitimately NOTHING has worked. I felt better for a week and then nothing. This has gone back all the way since I was a teenager too. I had thyroid problems that got fixed, but this never got any better.

I don't know how to get the motivation to do anything. Even when I do happen to try my hardest in doing something, it's always half as good or even just 2% as good as anybody else doing the same thing, because me being purely retarded and unable to learn or focus. Even when I try, nothing good happens. My entire body feels sore and I rest for the whole day. I've been working out for 2 years and lost 20 pounds as well.

>> No.7096101

By "get pumped" I mean get excited. If drawing doesn't excite you, if the creativity doesn't flow naturally through your soul, then quit. You truly believe that about yourself? Quit. Drawing obviously isn't for you. It's that simple.

That said, you enjoy writing? Go for that. But stop fucking complaining and feeling sorry for yourself all the time. Is that helping you further your own goals? Or is it sinking you deeper in your own mud that you made for yourself?

From the sound of it, your medication is really messing with your head- perception, remember -and the internet is distracting you, preventing you from facing pain directly. If you want my advice (disclaimer, you are on 4Chan) cut out the meds and your phone/the web for a month and see how you react in a vaccum. Start from square 0. Break this so-called cycle and change how you think about yourself because that's what's really holding you back. Use the time you have to get used to suffering through work and pain and doing what the fuck you really want to do. Sound like a drag? It is. Pain is good. You have to face it.

Also, stop comparing yourself to others. That's retard shit. Of course they're better than you, they've done what you don't do. Focus on your lane. Comparison won't help you.

If you can't do all this then I hope you're happy with living the same day for the rest of your life, jacking off and doomscrolling until you die. Are you a waste of space or not?

>> No.7096124

Also, when I say quit, I really mean that. It's better to be honest with your own abilities than try to force something that won't work. That is, if that's the conclusion you come to.

In any case, this isn't the board to be discussing your health, so please leave /ic/ alone until you have some art to share. There's probably a Reddit board than can help you. Or, y'know, go see a therapist. Saying this sincerely.

>> No.7096191

you can't expect you're gonna get it right away
keep practicing it

>> No.7096195

if thats the price you have to pay then so be it

>> No.7096216

It's been a year and no one has been able to help you. Why do you think that is?

>> No.7096252

>I've legitimately never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby
Yet you are insanely commited to shitting up this board every single day. It was fun at first, now not so much. Get new material.

>> No.7096255

>not enjoying HowieGPT
baka my head

>> No.7096274

>Get new material.
But how

>> No.7096297


Can you post your writing?

>> No.7096361


>> No.7096422

I've been writing for way longer than I've been drawing, but the only reason I tried writing for so long was because I thought I'd never be good at drawing. I only stuck with writing because my drawing skills were shit as a kid, and my shaky hands, body tremors and all this other shit held me back. Now I want to try drawing because nothing I actually want to write about is good for a literary medium and would better suit a visual one. So I'm stuck and unable to make the stories I want to.

>> No.7096423

It's been a year and no one has been able to help you. Why do you think that is?

>> No.7096425

Already been seeing a therapist and it's doing nothing. Already been seeing a psychiatrist for my entire life and it's been doing nothing.

>> No.7096435

It's been a year and no one has been able to help you. Why do you think that is?
Answering the question will give you the most self-help you could ever receive.

>> No.7096453


Are you seriously asking how to post text to the internet?

>> No.7096460
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You're a low IQ moron for actually replying to these.

>> No.7096542

You gotta realize that this has been the case forever. The Internet enables your spastic behavior, it doesn't create it out of nowhere. So you either adjust or continue doing nothing. Some of the best musicians, artists, etc. have said that they wanted to quit at some point, but didn't.
Imagine what you were going to do if you were to do this in 1980. You've quit. What's next? Get drunk? Hire a hooker? Play arcade games? All of this requires you to go somewhere, so you might as well pick up the pen and start drawing.
In 2024, you just play vidya or jerk off.
It's normal to be spastic if you're an artist. You need this itch, it's just that it gets scratched by unrelated filler.

>> No.7098762

Okay, so how do I fix it?

>> No.7098917

Stop spamming this thread every day or answer the question.
It's been a year and no one has been able to help you. Why do you think that is?

>> No.7098920

Man, I would love to help you, but I don't know how to give advice, I have ADHD as well, you know? Do you know how to give advice, maybe?

>> No.7099201

>It sounds to me like this guy has learned himself into a helplessness hole so deep he can't even see the sun anymore.
No, he is just a retarded attentionwhore.

>> No.7101412

which is it

>> No.7101418

there is legit no magic sentence someone can tell you that will fix your problems. you obviously have a major case of learned helplessness that you need to see a professional for. Do NOT say "but I did X and it didn't work" you need help and you aren't gonna get it on the fucking internet

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>> No.7102973

I got ADHD recently diagnosed 54mg Concerta etc etc. For OP here ironically was in a similar ish situation as a child now I don't want to dog you down as refer to you as a kid but i wanted to draw and the process didn't click with me. It actually made me mad whenever we had art class and I could barely draw stick men despite my ideas being so vivid. The thing was I didn't draw as a hobby. Play time came, I preferred to run and play tag. I didn't doodle in my bit of time. So that feeling of loosely doing with passive thought didn't come. Some people have mentioned suffering and there is real truth in this advice I best advise to enjoy suffering and to choose it. I don't rage quit games due to me picking this mindset its really fucking helpful to go 100 matches against an opponent and then start to slowly win.

Whether you can take the advice is one thing but the "science" I can bring that's been already said in "doing it" is factual when it comes to the brains neuroplacicity. Your brain and movements aren't just conscious thought so drawing is mostly dexterity similar to free flow dance (not an expert in illustration but my wife is) No one here can verbalise or atomise the FEEL FEEL FEELING of feeling the pressure and weight on your feet and toes. Try to intellectualise it. That feeling is outside of your overriding. So if you really want to draw I unironicaly say draw and attempt a road uncrossed. Also with the whole brain thing. New things can feel like pressure or strain it's extremely common but goes away with new hobbies or jobs. I struggle with keeping consistent hobbies I've never been a "my thing is Chess/Football/Cleaning/etc" always been a mix of shit. That ain't a problem but it's important for you to do shit you like. I've tried chess and ngl it's not for me beyond a friendly game here or there. If drawing is painful to you and isn't your music then don't do it. I don't mean to talk about me so much but i only have 1 consciousness ya know?

>> No.7102977

Sent this from mobile I apologise for the garbage grammar. Hope OP has something to say about the muscle memory thing then because that's not something you can intellectually dismiss.

>> No.7103088

But I love giving schizos attention

>> No.7103095

Some people just love to make excuses as to why they're a complete failure at something, while I do understand that sometimes life will deal you a bad hand if all you do is complain about the bad hand you'll never accomplish anything

>> No.7103718

You don't need to draw, you need a hug and sunlight.

>> No.7104102

I can't understand what the fuck this is saying.

>> No.7104106

Howie, suck start a shotgun.

>> No.7104220

Nothing IRL has helped me. I'm even seeing a telehealth therapist and it's not doing anything.

>> No.7104231

Don't think about math or rules or any of that shit. If you look up art instruction you will stumble across a lot of left-brained peopel who like to turn drawing into a science with many rules. For left-brained learners this helps but for intuitive learners it is actually a big hindrance. You're probably more right-brained like me, it still might be worth reading some art theory and rule sets just so they're there in the back of your mind but it doesn't matter if you don't absorb any of it. the best to way to improve is draw things you like, something feels off about your drawing? then look at reference of art you love and want to be like, copy it while listening to your favorite tune. it doesn't have to be a grueling miserable rule-based process.

>> No.7104238

Anything more complicated than jerking off and going to sleep for me feels grueling. I can barely even sit up in my chair and play video games. Every single hobby feels like work for me. I don't have "fun" with any hobby.

>> No.7104243

then this isn't an art problem and you're asking in the wrong place. you're probably depressed or something

>> No.7104249

There are plenty of artists with depression and untreated symptoms. I want advice on how to draw.

>> No.7104258

i gave you advice but then you're like, bro i can barely even get out of bed lmao. i don't know what you're expecting

>> No.7104277

Give me advice that works?

>> No.7104295

But how?

>> No.7104302

they're just an attention seeker farming (you)s. I wouldn't bother

>> No.7104310

drink a whole bottle of bleach, I heard it helps

>> No.7104315

What brand of Bleach? How do I acquire it? What technique do I use to drink it? How much should I drink? What do I do after drinking it?
You are not helping. Give me real advice. All I do is masturbate in my room, I drop every hobby other than writing here and masturbating, and it's like that for everything I do.

>> No.7104318

So are we done with actual advice or...?

>> No.7104324

After more than a year of this charade, I am convinced Howie does not deserve real advice. It's a waste of everyone's time and effort.

>> No.7104327

Shut the fuck up blond female or nigger

>> No.7104342

Or maybe it's that I need help and it's not some gigantic conspiracy.

>> No.7104354

No one here can give you the magical help you demand. At this point you are just a spammer doing it for the attention.

>> No.7104356

No its actually because I need help and not some giant conspiracy. I need actual help.

>> No.7104363

the help you need has nothing to do with art you stupid retard

you're dysfunctional, you need a doctor not art advice

>> No.7104367

And you come to an online anime forum for that help? And you keep doing it every day for more than a year?

>> No.7104369

I'm literally seeing therapy right now and it's not doing anything. And I've mentioned all of this to them.

>> No.7104373

Let me guess, you stay at home masturbating and scrooling instead of doing your therapy exercises.

>> No.7104374

I've changed medications several times and am seeing a therapist. It's not doing anything to help me.

>> No.7104375

You wanna know the last thing they told me?
>"Try going into more social situations."
Even though I don't have any to go into.

>> No.7104377

Join a club of something, or something nerdy like a TCG game night, or god forbid, an art class.

>But I don't have any hobbies and I don't want to do anything I just wanna fap in my room
Not my problem retard. That's literally your problem

>> No.7104379

try looking for a furry convention in your area, you'll be right at home

>> No.7104380

How about I get advice for drawing instead, which is what I'm here for.

>> No.7104386

Step 1: Get good at drawing straight lines from all angles.
Step 2: Get good at drawing curves at all angles
Step 3: Get good at drawing arbitrary shapes (which are combinations of the lines/curves you practiced above)
Step 4: Get good at copying arbitrary shapes (this practices your observational skills)
Step 5: Arbitrarily combine shapes to create nonsense shapes (this is what drawing is)
Step 6: Deliberately combine shapes to create the illusion of 3D form on your canvas

There's your advice. Do that over the span of a month then come back. How exactly are you going to make excuses for not practicing drawing straight fucking lines?

>> No.7104388

I have given you advice several times already. You will not waste more of my time.
Your purpose from now on is to act retarded for my amusement, a job you actually excel at.

>> No.7104390

Because I don't have the energy to do it. Every time I sit down, I draw for 30 seconds at most, and then get bored and stop.

>> No.7104391

Then you're not going to succeed at ANYTHING. There is no drawing advice that will help you because you are severely mentally ill. Until you figure that out you're going to DO NOTHING.

>> No.7104395

brother, if you're not willing to sacrifice and suffer, you are not entitled to a reward

there's no magic formula that will lift you from your misery

it's unironically over for you

go play videogames

>> No.7104397

You don’t want to help. That’s why none of the advice given to you seems useful. You simply don’t want to use it. You’re sitting here spamming nonsense hoping someone will provide a magic bullet cure for whatever issue you’re having with motivation or lack of talent/creativity. Everyone who started out drawing did it because it’s fun and they enjoyed it. If you want to draw but take no joy in the act of putting pencil to paper, let alone the learning process, you are not going to draw. You don’t want to draw, otherwise you would have done something by now. Stop asking for advice on something you clearly don’t want to do. Go sit in silence and leave the world around you unbothered by your presence. No one wants to help someone who isn’t going to listen to them and won’t at least attempt to apply the advice given to them.

>> No.7104413

Then am I not interested in anything at all? Because this is what it's like for everything that I've ever tried doing even for non creative hobbies or just anything in general.
I have literally tried doing several artistic hobbies and gave up each of them immediately when I was a teenager.
>Gave up on Source Filmmaker
>Gave up on GameMaker
>Gave up on FireAlpaca
>Gave up on Photoshop
>Gave up on writing
I didn't know how any of them worked or what to do. I don't even know basic trig. Even when I look art guides, I literally cannot comprehend them or figure them out. I don't want to be stuck with no creativity or being unable to express myself. This is what it's like for literally everything I try doing. I'm not able to try and keep up with any hobby. Even writing, I do it sporadically and very rarely.

>> No.7104415

>asks for art advice
>gets art advice
>bro i can't even do anything i am too le weak and depressed
>ok you need medical help then
>no i need art advice
>get art advice
this repeats infinitely until the thread archives.
fuck off

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>> No.7104419

If you keep giving up and don’t have the motivation to learn anything you attempt, then no. You’re not interested. Otherwise you wouldn’t give up so easily. Realize this now or keep living in the mental prison you’ve created for yourself.

>> No.7104420

it's kinda funny desu

one way or the other he isn't drawing, just like everyone else in this board

>> No.7104426

>I know you better than you know yourself
Actually no, you don't. So I'd appreciate it if you'd stopped pretending like you do. I want actual advice instead of psycho analysis. Take what I say at face value and genuinely offer advice, or don't.

>> No.7104429 [DELETED] 

Your next step is to give up on /ic/.

>> No.7104431

i genuinely hope i do not have any kids/grandkids that become like you

>> No.7104439

I’ve dealt with tards like you several times throughout my life. You’ll only ever amount to being nothing more than a tapeworm. I bet you hang out in artistic circles for the vibes, desperately wishing you could produce something worth half a squirt of cow shit just so you can feel included but you have no drive. No ability to sit down and put in the work because it’s just easier to jerk off and whine on the internet. You would legitimately be better off six feet deep. Now fuck off, no one can help you.

>> No.7104440

Sneed's Feed and Seed
Formerly Chuck's

>> No.7104442

Actually it's because I want to draw but am having trouble getting motivated or learning how to do it. So I'd appreciate it if you gave actual advice instead of projecting and bitching at me.

>> No.7104444

just draw

>> No.7104445

What I'm wanting to learn is how to do it.

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Follow this video. Make the project at the end. There's no wrong way to do the project. Post your results after you're done. Prove to everyone here that you can do it.

>> No.7104451

>it's because I want to draw but am having trouble getting motivated or learning how to do it
You obviously don’t. You’ve been given tons of helpful and practical advice that even a preschooler would be able to understand yet you absolutely refuse to do anything with it. You do not want to do anything creative that involves more than 2 minutes of work. You refuse to learn, you don’t want to listen to anyone who’s trying to help you, and you refuse to acknowledge your lack of motivation and instead try to hide behind the excuse of “waaaa my meds my adhd muh autism I can’t do anything”
Fuck off and die, faggot. You’ll never amount to anything more than a blubbering mass of defective cum.

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I did this last year. Never even finished it.

>> No.7104454

he will complain and say he can't do it because he'd rather jerk off and be depressed

>> No.7104455

Then finish it. You cannot fail at it.

>> No.7104456

More projection, more bitching, also now a tism fit. If you're not willing to genuinely give advice, then don't come into my thread.

>> No.7104460

My advice to you is to give up and fuck off. You make this thread every day and have not made any discernible progress whatsoever. All the time you’ve spent posting here could have instead been used trying to learn and develop, you could have just been trying to draw whatever’s in your room or simply trying to copy artwork from artists you enjoy. Instead you shit up this board with the same fucking thread every day. You don’t want to draw.

>> No.7104461

Why do you need that if you are just gonna spend 30 seconds on whatever we tell you and go fap and shitpost instead since more than 30 seconds of effort is too much for you?

>> No.7104466

Read what I posted here.
This is the process for every hobby that I've tried doing. Never been able to do or commit myself to a single one. Ever. So am I not interested in anything at all?

>> No.7104476

>So am I not interested in anything at all?
Nope. Otherwise you would be able to dedicate more than 30 seconds to those activities.

You can shitpost on 4chan for hours every day, so that's clearly more interesting to you. I'd recommend a board more related to your interests, like /h/ or /gif/, instead of /ic/, in which you clearly don't have any interest.

>> No.7104490

>Nope. Otherwise you would be able to dedicate more than 30 seconds to those activities.
I can't dedicate more than 30 seconds to anything at all. That's the problem.

>> No.7104492

Not our problem.

>> No.7104493

And yet here you are able to make thread after thread, post after post. How wonderfully convenient for you.

>> No.7104495

Yes because I need help. Even with this thread open I'm distracted by a ton of other things.

>> No.7104497

Not our problem.

>> No.7104499
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just draw

>> No.7104500

I'm asking for drawing advice on a board about drawing.

>> No.7104501

And you refuse to use any of the advice. What's the point?

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>> No.7104505

I would use the advice if I could, had any motivation or could figure out how to do it.

>> No.7104507

Stop asking us. No one wants to help you.

>> No.7104519 [DELETED] 

Tell me what the fuck to do then. A higher dosage of adderall, anti anxiety medication. This is on top of a booster dosage I'm taking each day too. My mind and my body locks up and prevents me from actually doing anything. Usually either out of anxiety or my mind and my body simply just locking up and telling me "What the fucks the point"? And just making me look back at my phone again or just stimming and staring at a wall.

Legitimately NOTHING has worked. I felt better for a week and then nothing. This has gone back all the way since I was a teenager too. I had thyroid problems that got fixed, but this never got any better.

I don't know how to get the motivation to do anything. Even when I do happen to try my hardest in doing something, it's always half as good or even just 2% as good as anybody else doing the same thing, because me being purely retarded and unable to learn or focus. Even when I try, nothing good happens. My entire body feels sore and I rest for the whole day. I've been working out for 2 years and lost 20 pounds as well.

>> No.7104521

Tell me what the fuck to do then. A higher dosage of adderall, anti anxiety medication. This is on top of a booster dosage I'm taking each day too. My mind and my body locks up and prevents me from actually doing anything. Usually either out of anxiety or my mind and my body simply just locking up and telling me "What the fucks the point"? And just making me look back at my phone again or just stimming and staring at a wall.

Legitimately NOTHING has worked. I felt better for a week and then nothing. This has gone back all the way since I was a teenager too. I had thyroid problems that got fixed, but this never got any better.

I don't know how to get the motivation to do anything. Even when I do happen to try my hardest in doing something, it's always half as good or even just 2% as good as anybody else doing the same thing, because me being purely retarded and unable to learn or focus. Even when I try, nothing good happens. My entire body feels sore and I rest for the whole day. I've been working out for 2 years and lost 20 pounds as well.

>> No.7104525

This comic is a massive strawman. They don't actually explain how to pet the dog and they berate him for not knowing. Which is exactly what's happening in these threads. You're assuming that because you know that everyone else automatically knows.

>> No.7104527

No point, you’re hopeless. Enjoy being a talentless parasite for the rest of your life.

>> No.7104538

Howie...just press the pencil against the paper and draw something... even chimps can do it, even toddlers can do it, even severely retarded people can do it....

>> No.7104540

But… how?

>> No.7104554

You're being reductionist. You do realize that there's thousands of techniques or guides beyond just putting the pencil on the paper, right?

>> No.7104557

>even severely retarded people can do it

clearly not

>> No.7104569

Take whatever you put into working out and put it into drawing. Close the tab and touch grass. All the advice in the world means nothing if you lack the discipline (read: not motivation) to put it into practice.

>> No.7104570

Howie can't even do step 0 for 30 seconds before getting bored, and stopping to go fap or shitpost.

Why would I spend my time teaching him that? He will just tell me to give him real advice, nothing works, ADHD and autism, yadda yadda yadda

>> No.7104580

Whenever I don't have any internet I don't feel any more motivated. I just sit and stare at a wall doing nothing.

>> No.7104583

These days, whenever I have a bad day I come into these threads, read for a bit, think "at least I'm not Howie", and my day is instantly better

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>> No.7104763

Okay. How?

>> No.7104792

Even when I feel my absolute best on the meds, I don't feel good enough to do anything.

>> No.7105344

>op probably still mogs me

>> No.7106616

they make you fat, they serve Big Macs, they serve quarter pounders, meds will put pounds on you.

>> No.7106732
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These threads make me feel better.

>> No.7106737

Draw a circle every day

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>> No.7109088

When was the last time you had sex?

>> No.7109175

Never had it

>> No.7111447

I know how you feel anon

>> No.7112254

>Tell me what the fuck to do then.
Go away.

>> No.7112287

unironically trace

>> No.7112288

I don't have the means to trace. my arm hurts when I hold it up against my monitor or window.

>> No.7112290

it is and he goes to every board to start the comment with the same copy pasted questionnaire

>> No.7112296
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it’s pretty easy actually, just draw a circle like this

>> No.7112298

printer, or physical comic
phone light
now you can do it downwards! :)

>> No.7114129
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we just gotta draw something

>> No.7114139

Don't humor Howie. He doesn't want to actually draw, he just wants to bathe in his own self-pity.

>> No.7114816

In his own ragu

>> No.7114934

Good posts, but I wish you posted these in a better thread.

>> No.7114938

We should all just use this thread to post all of our work or talk about our accomplishments in spite o our issues so we can make OP feel like a fucking loser.

>> No.7114963

like a Long Promised Road.

>> No.7116776


>> No.7118214

oh shit

>> No.7119633

we wait

>> No.7120407


>> No.7120408

Well if you be my bodyguard.

>> No.7121648

Have sex.

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You could’ve spent time actually drawing rather than constantly whining on here, Howie. Art is not a competition nor should it be rushed. Just keep trying. Yeah some stuff may be really complex but that’s just how a learning curve works. Just pick up the pencil and carry on with your journey instead of whining and stop using your autism as an excuse. You make a lot of actual artists that are on the spectrum look bad.

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>> No.7123853

beyond the thunderdome

>> No.7124053

Did OP ever figure out how to draw?

>> No.7124065

No and never will. He should get the rope along with Soda and all of the board schizos. They won't be missed.

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>> No.7124103

all we want is life, beyond the Drawingdome

>> No.7124123

kys soda no one likes you
>Verification not required.

>> No.7124126
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Subu does, he's been helping me with drawing.

>> No.7124132

we don't like him either faggot
>Verification not required.

>> No.7124137

oh goddamn HIM TOO???
>Verification not required.

>> No.7124138

Just do it

>> No.7124149

fuck you nigga fuck you

>> No.7124158

good now this fucking thread can die already

>> No.7124165

I fucking wish bro...

>> No.7124238

Why is nobody helping me with real advice?

>> No.7125809