/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners General

[Anonymous No.7081944]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
e-hentai.org/tag/other:how+to
line-of-action.com
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific

Previous thread: >>7079720

[Anonymous No.7081956]

swinging animation. i havent done the last frame yet. arrows are supposed to be notes on position change for the next frame

[Anonymous No.7081961]

[Anonymous No.7081962]

>>7081944
I WANT TO DRAW LOLI/SHOTA but if anyone ever recognizes my art-style im fucking finished but that's the only thing i 'really' want to draw.
>just draw it for yourself and never post it anywhere
Im not a fucking schizoid I want to share with people and connect with my drawings also i dont mind clout
>just use a different artystyle (brush)
I guess but I'm really into the one im using, maybe I should experiment though
>just kys pedo
IM NOT A PEDO, if you ever could beam my thoughts into yours you would see that I cherish, respect and want to protect children more than 99% of people and woudnt never harm them, idk maybe I want to draw it because its so wrong or maybe because they arent actual children just a strange cartoon abstraction
>just suck it up and dont draw it
prob what im gonna do

[Anonymous No.7081974]

>>7081962
if you're attracted to kids you're a pedo, stop coping and pretending like you care about kids, it's gross

[Anonymous No.7081977]

Today's pose is another interesting one from these packs:
>>7074745
>>7077288
Give it a try!

[Anonymous No.7081979]

>>7081974
oh well i thought it went without saying but im not sexually attracted to kids at all
I can see that my post make me come across as those "what if the child says yes" degenerates but that's not me at all, im principally opposed to any kind of sexual/romantic relationship with minors

[Anonymous No.7081982]

>>7081977
And another collage of all the great studies from last thread

[Anonymous No.7081985]

>>7081977
>>7081982
can yall stop choosing these goofy ahh pics the last one looked like the guys head was a nutsack now this one has the most distractingly ugly snatch ever
where is the ethot poster

[Anonymous No.7081987]

>>7081982
>Everyone kneeled out of respect

[Anonymous No.7081989]

>>7081962
>>7081979
Wrong thread buddy. It's barely started and you're already shitting up the place.

[Anonymous No.7081991]

>>7081977
Have something palatable.
This thread's thot reference.

[Anonymous No.7081992]

>>7081991
too boring nigga, post some other thot

[Anonymous No.7081999]

>>7081962
do people ever buy trad art of that kind of stuff?

[Anonymous No.7082005]

>>7081989
4 posts in and you can already see why people dont want their art associated with this place kek

[Anonymous No.7082006]

>>7081999
dunno, but i would never do comissions, if someone sees my drawings and imagines it to be some real child in their head then thats terrible but if they specifically comission it then drawing it would make me feel nauseous

[Anonymous No.7082008]

>>7081962
just draw it and post on main

[Anonymous No.7082009]

just checking in with my daily

[Anonymous No.7082014]

>>7081992
Not that anon but here you go.

[Anonymous No.7082017]

>>7081977
i really need to get back to figure studies once i'm done with KtD and Drawabox

[Anonymous No.7082022]

>>7081977

[Anonymous No.7082025]

I have to imitate something correct?

[Anonymous No.7082037]

Would drawing skeleton heads before you learn head anatomy/construction be helpful?
I assume not, because you're ultimately not going to be drawing them anyways.

[Anonymous No.7082040]

>watch 30 min tutorial
yep, thats enough drawing for me today! who else here /gonnamakeit/?

[Anonymous No.7082043]

>>7082014
>>7081991

[Anonymous No.7082045]

Reminder that all of you are useless, worthless wastes of space who no one will ever love, just like me.

[Anonymous No.7082046]

>>7082045
jokes on you anon, I love you.

[Anonymous No.7082047]

brother, why hate the world when your hands are capable of creating beautiful things? stop thinking and start drawing.
>>7082045

[Anonymous No.7082052]

>>7082014
good pose

[Anonymous No.7082060]

>>7082045
my brother in christ, just draw

[Anonymous No.7082101]

>>7081992

[Anonymous No.7082106]

>>7081991
>>7082101
where do you get these pics?

[Anonymous No.7082115]

>>7081982
sweet validation

[Anonymous No.7082116]

>>7082045
i asked my mate, he said if i was a slave he'd pay 20$ for me.

[Anonymous No.7082125]

>>7082047
I'll never create anything because I'm an untalented loser just like all of you. AI made any semblance of hope for a good life for me and impossibility. My coding degree is worthless, my art minor is worthless. I'm worthless.

[Anonymous No.7082129]

>>7082125
Kill yourself then you fucking faggot, stop clogging up the board.

[Anonymous No.7082133]

It's funny how over dramatic and emotional people can be in a place centered around drawing boobies lel

[Anonymous No.7082141]

>>7081962
>you would see that I cherish, respect and want to protect children more than 99% of people and woudnt never harm them
You sound exactly like every twitter pedophile.

[Anonymous No.7082145]

Wanted to go for more early puberty proportions but she came out too fridgelike.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.7082150]

/int/ sisters... we need to graduate to bigger and better places than this...

[Anonymous No.7082151]

Pedophiles should kts.

[Anonymous No.7082154]

once I get my ADHD diagnosis and state mandated meth this summer it's over for you bitches

[Anonymous No.7082161]

what do you think about this T shirt? This is other artist's work that I really love. I know it is potential cringe, but the voice in my head keeps suggesting it.

[Anonymous No.7082174]

>>7082161
Have you considered drawing?

[Anonymous No.7082184]

>>7082047
>hands are capable of creating beautiful things?
Nta but they aren't.
The most utility the world will ever get is if i volunteer.
There's nothing else worth doing that i'm capable of.

[Anonymous No.7082185]

>>7082154
>Needs heavy medication in order to pick up the pencil and draw
>Oh yeah i'll totally draw just in uhm erm
the summer(AKA several months from now)
>NGMI

Ngmi.

[Anonymous No.7082186]

>>7081962
You're weird as fuck but i don't think anyone will care if it's not pornographic in nature
If it is, kys

[Anonymous No.7082193]

>>7082161
I think you should show us YOUR work you insufferable nodrawpermabegfaggot FUCK (nice shirt design though)

[Anonymous No.7082195]

>>7082186
other than storytellers/animators
does anyone really just draw "loli/shota" without it being sexual? that pedo fag litterally said "I want to draw it because it's so wrong"

if it wasn't sexual you wouldn't feel any sense of shame or guilt but that's not the case so KYS

[Anonymous No.7082197]

>>7082185
I do draw, and I will continue to draw, I just get sidetracked easily and can't do it for too long

[Anonymous No.7082198]

>>7081962
just don't draw it and get help no mentally healthy person wants to draw porn of kids

[Anonymous No.7082207]

>>7082193
>>7082174
here's my work: >>7082009 now tell me opinion for the t shirt

[Anonymous No.7082215]

>>7082009
Foot looks good, maybe a little thin and flat at the heel.
>>7082161
The shirt will make you look like a gay furry.

[Anonymous No.7082236]

>>7081982

Yyyeeeesss! My study made it in!

>>7081977

Not very happy with my attempt at this one, but I feel like it looks even worse in the photo. Sorry for the crappy quality, my old phone is all I have right now, I really need to be getting a scanner.

Props for giving us unique and challenging poses anon.

[Anonymous No.7082239]

>>7081982

Yyyeeeesss! My study made it in!

>>7081977

Not very happy with my attempt at this one, but I feel like it looks even worse in the photo. Sorry for the crappy quality, my old phone is all I have right now, I really need to be getting a scanner.

Props for giving us unique and challenging poses anon.

[Anonymous No.7082248]

>>7081944

[Anonymous No.7082250]

>>7081977
>>7081991
>>7082014
Thanks for making me draw.

>>7082101
Will probably draw this one tomorrow.

>>7081985
>>7081992
Bitch

[Anonymous No.7082282]

Genuine doubt, how did get the first commission?
1. Do you already need have a high level of drawing?
2. Doing nsfw works?
3. Need make any contract or use any platform for the transaction?

[Anonymous No.7082285]

I want to try using a pen for my /beg/ manga copying.
Would it be worth it to get a fountain pen to start with?

[Anonymous No.7082286]

Can i get a critique on this doodle.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7082293]

Thanks to the anon on previous thread, ill try to draw more males in the future.

But meanwhile, drawing what comes to my mind after listening to an specific song.

[Anonymous No.7082326]

>>7082197
don't listen to that anon
yr gonna do great things on meds, they helped me a lot
just be carful of what yr doing when u take them cuz might end up being able to focus but not on the right things lol

[Anonymous No.7082329]

Every time I try and draw I just look at my stuff and think "it's not appealing and I'll never be a mangaka."

I never get the same feeling looking at my art that I do from other artists.

[Anonymous No.7082335]

Kinda gave up in the back hair but will make up for it when I render it

[Anonymous No.7082339]

>>7082286
This would look a lot better if you didn't bitch out and make her focus on you instead of a random corner in space. Stop it.

[Anonymous No.7082340]

>>7082335
You completely mogged me, I'm going to kill myself now.

[Anonymous No.7082342]

>>7082339
Im sorry...

[Anonymous No.7082343]

>>7082335
Hand too small.
Too many tangents.
Man chin.
4/10

[Anonymous No.7082344]

>>7082329
It's because your stuff is just lame and flat. There's zero soul to it. It's like you have no feeling other than wanting to draw for the sake of making money. Let me guess, you work retail?

[Anonymous No.7082353]

>>7082329
Study your fundies.
Also, make a list of all your favorite artists. Analyze each of them. Figure out what you really love about them and want to capture in your own work.
Also, you will never get that feeling you speak of, so don't chase it. The artist is barred from genuine enjoyment of their own work, that's the domain of the audience. You will get the joy of a job well done, nothing more.

[Anonymous No.7082357]

>>7082161
>>7082207
ew you draw feet?

also yeah the t-shirt is good, just buy it but I hate that there's text on the side, really ruins the graphic in my opinion

[Anonymous No.7082361]

>>7082329
youre at the baby steps level wondering when you'll get to be an olympic level sprinter, keep making stuff and dont expect to start feeling happy about what you make for years if you keep expecting to suddenly create god tier stuff

[Anonymous No.7082398]

>>7082101

[Anonymous No.7082428]

>>7081944
how can i improve coloring

[Anonymous No.7082430]

>>7082428
Your question is too general, what kind of mood are you going for? What is the lighting in the scene like? What time of day is it? Do you have any artstyle or inspiration you're trying to look like?

[Anonymous No.7082453]

>>7082145
>but she came out too fridgelike.
Learn about the masses of the torso, and how the ribcage and pelvis has a tilt that comes from the spine as an S curve. Because of the tilt, this is where boxes come in play and how you use the box form to help you find an orientation in space. Once you establish this orientation (or at least be mindful of it) you may begin to draw the torso with the pelvis being proportionally larger than the ribcage, that is partly how we get the iconic hourglass shape. Knowing the bony landmarks of the torso will help you keep proportions in check such as the iliac crest, sternum, greater trochanter, clavicles, and how the belly button is placed just above the iliac crest from the pelvis as an example.
https://i.4cdn.org/b/1709449223243565.jpg

[Anonymous No.7082456]

>>7081962
>I cherish, respect and want to protect children more than 99% of people
Yeah fuckin right.

In any sense, if you think style=brush you won't ever get good at art anyways. Same goes for your only motivation being an unhealthy fantasy.

[Anonymous No.7082460]

>>7082453
Look I have to on principle be tolerant for the sake of freedom of expression and no one gets hurt from drawing but genuinely FUCK OFF, go to the lolishota general and keep your filth contained there, I have that fucking thread hidden so I don't have to look at you and your degenerate fetish. No one here BEGONE

[Anonymous No.7082461]

>>7082453
Is this you, Jona?

[Anonymous No.7082477]

>>7081982
>>7081977
happy to see mine make it

The pose you gave seemed easy but the foreshortening was tough

[Anonymous No.7082482]

>>7082460
The most vocal antis always have skeletons in their closets.

[Anonymous No.7082488]

I've been bad about drawing lately but unironcally a pewdiepie hate thread made me want to be more consistent

[Anonymous No.7082523]

>>7081510
The face looks much better, but the body needs a lot of work. It looks like normal top half of the body was attached to the midget's lower half. On your level you won't be drawing correct figures in perspective from imagination any time soon, so find refs if you want to draw a finished work and study figure drawing in between works.

[Anonymous No.7082533]

[Anonymous No.7082540]

more 3/4 head practice

I found a guide that recommended drawing a trapezoid for the eye plane and to draw the structure of the nose first, I found that helped a LOT with eye width and placement

[Anonymous No.7082545]

>>7082014
terrible low res photo

[Anonymous No.7082551]

>>7082545
Try this one.

[Anonymous No.7082553]

>>7082545
upscale it with your skills and imagination
--> >>7082052

[Anonymous No.7082566]

[Anonymous No.7082567]

>>7082566
CULO

[Anonymous No.7082576]

>>7082566
Love the freckles but the ass and thighs are bizarre to me.

[Anonymous No.7082579]

>>7082551
Drawing with reference really is taking the weights off isn’t it

[Anonymous No.7082591]

>>7082579
Nice one, anon.

[Anonymous No.7082593]

>>7082453
Thanks a lot for your advice, anon.
I am too stupid to apply such concepts properly but you helped me realize how fucked it was and I fucked it up even more
I will try to be more mindful of these concepts from now on, thanks.
Full:
https://files.catbox.moe/jh14a4.png

[Anonymous No.7082596]

>>7082579
the hair looks like a shrimp on her shoulder
when you hate to finish one part of the drawing, it really shows

[Anonymous No.7082601]

[Anonymous No.7082603]

want to draw more things in this. kind of looks unbalanced

[Anonymous No.7082626]

>>7082596
I think it’s cool

[Anonymous No.7082628]

Is it normal to find certain genders easier to draw?

For some reason I find men a lot easier to draw than women

[Anonymous No.7082631]

Does anyone know what Michael Hampton means by contour lines? In Figure Drawing he says to not do them in your gestures but every gesture I see him do has lines that I'd call contour lines everywhere

[Anonymous No.7082635]

>>7082631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ktfwayByRU&list=PLdDpPxCSXr7LBUvOaquIBZU5NgvrB6zVs

[Anonymous No.7082640]

>>7082635
ty, i've avoided proko because he reminds me of an oblivion npc but that was very helpful so i'll have to stop that

[Anonymous No.7082641]

>>7082640
Proko can be annoying but he's very, very good at what he does

[Anonymous No.7082642]

>>7082628
Dude you gotta grind like 50 more hours before you ask these questions

[Anonymous No.7082646]

>>7082642
I know but I find men easier to draw for some reason and I'm wondering if that's normal

[Anonymous No.7082653]

>>7082646
Yeah. Its hips and tits. That’s what you gotta learn

[Anonymous No.7082656]

>>7082646
yes
men have an easier time drawing men
and women have an easier time drawing slags

[Anonymous No.7082658]

>>7082656
I'm a man and I have an easier time drawing anime bitches with wide hips and nice tits because I'm a coomer

[Anonymous No.7082669]

>>7082428
well i moved on from that one.
looking kinda off but can't put my finger on it

[Anonymous No.7082674]

>>7082014
I'm kind of wondering if that pose came from a weird fetish thing

[Anonymous No.7082676]

>>7082669
i love desert cult whores

[Anonymous No.7082682]

>>7082669
It's probably because of her big cranium, widely spaced creepypasta eyes, and the fact that her tits are two big balls attached to nothing.

[Anonymous No.7082686]

What can I do better ?

[Anonymous No.7082687]

>>7082682
Big upps man.

[Anonymous No.7082697]

>>7082686
heads not connected to the body

[Anonymous No.7082701]

>>7082674
No

[Anonymous No.7082706]

>>7082398
>>7082286
this shit is cool dog!
>>7082014
>>7081982
>>7081977
>>7082551
you're cool, you keep up this enthuasism
>>7082239
Get A2 paper. Youre cramped on that small area.
>>7082293
thats cool, link the music here so I can see it. I also draw while vibing to a certain music, its part of the art process

[Anonymous No.7082710]

>>7081977

[Anonymous No.7082719]

>>7082686
>>7082697

How do you make the head look connected to the body ?

[Anonymous No.7082726]

>>7082335
consider this

[Anonymous No.7082727]

>>7082719
try putting your own head in that position

[Anonymous No.7082728]

I've started doing some ms paint portraits to get more acquainted with facial planes and value use. Overall I'm happy with this one, the light is really cool coming from above and shining through her glasses back onto the skin. Overall, the blocks of color and value are there but how do I get to doing finer detailed rendering? Is it finally time to zoom in to my artwork? It was always drilled into me to paint as far away from the work as possible. Words of encouragement/advice appreciated.

[Anonymous No.7082731]

>>7082719

[Anonymous No.7082733]

>>7082731
So the neck should come out of the deltoid and from the right side of the collarbone? Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.7082735]

>>7082727

I did.. it look foreshorten when i tilt my head to the side and when I lower my torso

Can you redline for me ? Should i draw the clavicle a little bit lower so the neck is more visible ?

[Anonymous No.7082736]

>>7082733
based retard

[Anonymous No.7082738]

>>7082553
this is not "upscaled with skills and imagination at all", it has as little detail or less than the reference
>>7082551
>arm out of frame, most of the picture is the floor and walls
you guys suck at this

[Anonymous No.7082741]

>>7082728p
Sick. And yes, zoom in for details. I believe it was Anthony Jones who said in a proko video something like "zoom out to draw big, zoom in to draw small".
(If you're literally using MS paint try using more advanced software with basic brushes. I love pixel brush the most but I would unalive myself if I had to deal with mspaint tools).

[Anonymous No.7082742]

>>7082741
For a long time I used a pirated copy of adobe photoshop but recently I tried painting in ms paint and it has been tons of fun. Glad to know my fear of zooming in at all was irrational

[Anonymous No.7082748]

>>7082728
try using different kinds of edges before zooming in
but for that, software other than mspaint might be better

[Anonymous No.7082750]

>>7082738
>it has as little detail or less than the reference
how bout sovl ?

[Anonymous No.7082755]

>>7082741
>quoting fucking anythong "ching chong" jones of all people
>pretending like anthony "ching chong" jones is the first to have said something along the lines of draw the big shapes first and then do the details
fucking lmao

[Anonymous No.7082775]

have you ever encountered something you would call "/beg/ kino"?

[Anonymous No.7082781]

>>7082775

[Anonymous No.7082793]

>>7082669

[Anonymous No.7082794]

>>7081977
>>7082101
booba

[Anonymous No.7082796]

>>7081977
God 3d woman are so disgusting, especially white ones after the age of 16.

[Anonymous No.7082802]

I won’t contribute to this thread.

[Anonymous No.7082837]

>>7082686
here anon gave it a quick edit

[Anonymous No.7082842]

>>7081977

[Anonymous No.7082844]

>>7082735
your head physically can't turn 90 degrees like that

[Anonymous No.7082845]

>>7082755
why are you like this?

[Anonymous No.7082849]

>>7081944
i want to get started with drawing anime style artwork
what programs are reccomended and is a drawing pen neccesary

any starter guides on equipment needed?

[Anonymous No.7082852]

Any suggestions
Wip
Also are there any videos on dress folds?

[Anonymous No.7082855]

>>7082551

[Anonymous No.7082856]

>>7082733
you know the redline anon was making fun of the fact that the neck would lead into the shoulder right? great shitpost though lmao

[Anonymous No.7082857]

>>7082849
Clip Studio Paint is what all the anime artists use

[Anonymous No.7082860]

>>7082849
Yes if you make digital art you need a drawing tablet or pen display. Displays are usually more expensive than the screenless tablets. Wacom is the most popular company to produce such peripherals but there are also competitors like xp pen and huion. if you're going screenless, look for something of decent size as small tablets tend to be harder to use for drawing. For drawing software i would recommend Krita which is free and works on all major desktop operating systems. For any tablet you choose, try to find a review of it first to avoid any problems.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7082863]

>>7082706
Heres the song i got to listen for that drawing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwD8jWGCMfw

Gives me a feeling of like a late night show.

[Anonymous No.7082865]

>>7082738
>>arm out of frame, most of the picture is the floor and walls
>you guys suck at this

Alright, try this.

[Anonymous No.7082866]

>>7082865
Garbage lighting, cramped composition, backdrop from preschool photo day.
I've tried very, very hard to scour OF for good references, it's futile.

[Anonymous No.7082867]

>>7082857
>>7082860

thanks, i am also wondering how much the program and tablet you use actually matters

is it like i can make anything with any program and tablet or does the kinda art i want to make influence what i should buy

[Anonymous No.7082871]

>>7082867
I mean, you could make anything in MSPaint with enough time and skill, different programs have strengths and weakness for what you want to do with them if you put the time in

[Anonymous No.7082872]

>>7082866
There's only so much a chick in her apartment can do, anon. You should be glad that it's relatively clear and that her whole body's in the shot.

[Anonymous No.7082873]

>>7082867
NTA.
Spend a week with a pirated version of each program people recommend and get what you like most, it's the only way to really know. Most people stick with what they try first and that's fine too.
I've tried Corel Painter and Photoshop before choosing CSP.
Generally speaking you want your tablet to be as big as you can afford. Get a solid chinese screenless like a deco pro or something

[Anonymous No.7082874]

>>7082873
I really hate how Corel Painter still doesn't have zoom to cursor

[Anonymous No.7082875]

>>7082872
>There's only so much a chick in her apartment can do, anon.
Yeah that's her problem. Get a photo guy or stop whoring. I'm not expecting ZIshy quality, just something usable, where the shadows don't look like you're fucking dirty

[Anonymous No.7082878]

>>7082872
>There's only so much a chick in her apartment can do, anon.
can't she get two cheap boxlights and position herself half-decent in the frame?

[Anonymous No.7082879]

>>7082857
Shit anyone else use ibispaint besides me?
I remember once being told i can't get good because i'm using ibis and drawing with fingers since it's not "proffessional"

[Anonymous No.7082882]

>>7082047
Thank you fren.

[Anonymous No.7082884]

>>7082878
She could, but that would require more of a brain than a chick who does OF would have.

[Anonymous No.7082885]

>>7082867
>is it like i can make anything with any program
yeah

[Anonymous No.7082888]

>>7082879
I do, buy any tablet pen, soft nib or hard doesn’t matter.
Pen pressure isn’t as great as you believe you can work around it with good opacity setting and managing your layers.
I used to think the tools were holding me back but after seeing many trad mangakas switch to digital and immediately producing high quality digital artworks, I realized the key issue is skill.
With skill even with extremely limited tools you can produce great stuff

[Anonymous No.7082889]

>>7082852
My studies are better than actual art i'm making
I feel like that's bad

[Anonymous No.7082891]

>>7082849
>and is a drawing pen neccesary

[Anonymous No.7082892]

>>7082855
form status: FELT
great work anon, your art is always nice to look at

[Anonymous No.7082893]

>>7082891
my friend i dont know so i ask

[Anonymous No.7082898]

>>7082893
well anon you might be actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.7082908]

>>7082793
giant unappealing bug eyes that are too far apart
and the perspective of the face is also weird
the mouth is going one way while the eyes another
PSA: FLIP YOUR DRAWINGS HORIZONTALLY

[Anonymous No.7082913]

>>7082293

[Anonymous No.7082914]

trying to figure out the best way to draw this scenario
I think I like bottom left, i like the weight, now I have to draw it from a more dynamic angle, what do you anons think?

[Anonymous No.7082916]

>>7082867
all modern art softwares can do all you need so theres no need to spend imo.

[Anonymous No.7082923]

>>7081991
AAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.7082924]

>>7082898
it's not necessary but it sure as fuck beats drawing with a mouse

[Anonymous No.7082926]

>>7081991
>>7082923
Is there a creep thread with only images somewhere on the site?
I only see the /gif/ videos
even then all the angles are too low

[Anonymous No.7082928]

>>7082893
get a pack of pencils and paper
once you have some fundies down invest in a draw tablet
I got like a what $50 wacom
don't get a tablet too small because it's dogshit

[Anonymous No.7082931]

/prebeg/, trying my best to copy line drawings from professional artists to improve my proportions, but they all come out hideously deformed and scaled up too much.
Does this only get better at mileage? Cos it's mind numbing to do.

[Anonymous No.7082932]

>>7082931
keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.7082934]

[Anonymous No.7082936]

>>7082934
nice boxes
perspective seems skewed on the right figure

[Anonymous No.7082938]

>>7081977

[Anonymous No.7082941]

>>7082934
nice texture on those boxes

[Anonymous No.7082944]

>>7082551
Damn, she has melanoma on her ankle.

[Anonymous No.7082949]

>>7081977
>>7082551
feel rusty

[Anonymous No.7082958]

>>7082845
why do you quote some random nigger (who sucks ass at teaching yet he keeps releasing """"""""tutorials"""""""" instead of an actual master?

[Anonymous No.7082962]

I've been drawing for two months now, and I'm starting to see the light. I actually like drawing. It fills me with joy to see improvement out of my time drawing. Even with the many mistakes I make I'm no longer disgusted with my squiggly lines.

[Anonymous No.7082972]

Not feeling Loomis at all rn. What should i draw for fun, as opposed to practice?
Animals tend to be pretty cool, but i think i should try smething machinery adjacent too. Wacky guns maybe ? Idk.
Feel free to throw suggestions at me.
(The below pic isn't my serious attempt, just something i whipped out in paint with a mose so i don't post textless and also to start out already with something sry i know it sucks)

[Anonymous No.7082974]

>>7082845
Don't reply bro. That type of posts do absolutely nothing for the thread. Just ignore them.

[Anonymous No.7082977]

>>7082972
To learn Loomis one should be competent at construction and perspective. If you are a complete beginner start with keys to drawing, a pencil and a paper.

[Anonymous No.7082980]

>>7082977
i got absolutely filtered last time i tried KTD but i guess i can give it a try.
I draw better on paper and prefer it over mouse/tablet.
Just wanted a silly pic as to avoid textonly posting about a topic not that specific

[Anonymous No.7082982]

>>7082962
That's great to hear anon. I've been getting back into studying art and I'm really having fun learning perspective with Loomis books. Also getting over not getting disgusted by my mistakes. We're gonna make it

[Anonymous No.7082985]

What do you guys use for pose references?

[Anonymous No.7082986]

>>7082985
I search on pinterest poses and pick one

[Anonymous No.7082989]

>>7082985

[Anonymous No.7082991]

>>7082985
Pornhub

[Anonymous No.7082992]

>>7082985
I use /ic/ >>7073847

[Anonymous No.7082996]

>>7081961
Pretty good form, anatomy, and contour. I would say just work on the hairband the shading. The colours kind of look inconsistent. What's with the lines on the leg? The shading is not good, it would improve it a lot more if it looked more neat.

[Anonymous No.7082997]

>>7082985
Pose
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice

[Anonymous No.7082998]

>>7081991
I thought I arleady drew this but it's just a similar GYATT

[Anonymous No.7083002]

[Anonymous No.7083003]

>>7081977
Cool ref, actually enjoyed drawing it.

[Anonymous No.7083005]

I'm super bad at drawing, but even despite this it's still plenty fun.
Just wish i could make stuff that's worth showing to other people lol.

[Anonymous No.7083006]

>>7081991
first time trying one of these, that was fun
>>7082962
ty anon, your post reminded me that i started drawing just because i had fun doing it and that it's okay to still be shit at arbitrary time milestones

[Anonymous No.7083014]

>>7082996
I don't think you should be giving critiques

[Anonymous No.7083021]

>>7082865

[Anonymous No.7083022]

>>7083021
>>7082913
>>7082855
>>7082043
>>7082022
kill yourself eternal sketchlord nobody likes you

[Anonymous No.7083024]

>>7083003
Fuck, realised that the leg on the right looks completely broken only after I posted it. Tried to make it a little bit better.

[Anonymous No.7083025]

>>7082996
that was just a remnant of the blank shading, final version looked like this

[Anonymous No.7083027]

>>7083022
Kek when the crabs on /ic/ clack their claws, it means you are making it out of the bucket

[Anonymous No.7083028]

>>7083021
You really need to think about where you put thicker lines. The variety makes no sense in your drawings

[Anonymous No.7083040]

Non-thot-ref with some cool shapes in case you guys are looking for something to draw.

[Anonymous No.7083041]

>>7083040
my attempt

[Anonymous No.7083047]

>>7083041
>40 seconds
how

[Anonymous No.7083049]

>>7083047
same person that posted it most likely

[Anonymous No.7083050]

>>7083049
Exactly

[Anonymous No.7083053]

Took a massive shit on the paper today
it is what it is

[Anonymous No.7083055]

>>7083053
May i ask what was study of?
It doesn't look horrible to me

[Anonymous No.7083057]

>>7083053
those shoulders are very wide compared to those hips

[Anonymous No.7083061]

>>7083006
an attempt was made >>7081977
it didn't feel as hard as i thought it would to get something at least kinda right
looking forward to learning anatomy so i can start putting detail on these

[Anonymous No.7083063]

>>7083053
neat hatching

[Anonymous No.7083069]

>>7083057
Agreed, another reason why this was a shit study
Tomorrow will hopefully be better

[Anonymous No.7083071]

>>7081944
This is what I need to know...

Is this too far-fetched? Does it look good? What parts need work, and what's the best part?
Fb (dot) cum /share/p/NN5KrhhdFzktWwgp/?mibextid=TrneLp

[Anonymous No.7083075]

>>7083071
nobody's gonna solve for x nigga attach the picture

[Anonymous No.7083077]

>>7082985
Books I grab from the artbook thread or libgen, pornography, artstation packs I bought or stole, and photos of random people on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.7083079]

>>7082781
Lol that’s mine

[Anonymous No.7083080]

[Anonymous No.7083083]

>>7083040
powerful manlet aura

[Anonymous No.7083088]

>>7083083
Looks like a Wall Street hobbit

[Anonymous No.7083101]

>>7083040
>>7083041

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7083105]

>>7082913
Oh neat, didnt expect my doodle to get enough attention to get a redraw, thank you.

You missed her ponytail tho

[Anonymous No.7083112]

>>7083105

[Anonymous No.7083113]

>>7083112
Neat

[Anonymous No.7083115]

does this look alright

[Anonymous No.7083125]

>>7083040
Never done anything like this
Wanted to test if i could try and copy something more than head

[Anonymous No.7083131]

>>7083115
the hands look kind of messed up, especially the one gripping the spear

her head looks a little fat at the top, kind of like a diet Megamind

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7083192]

>>7083112
Heh, thanks for the fix.

[Anonymous No.7083195]

Refined a sketch. All imagination, so if someone with anatomical knowledge could critique I'd appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.7083197]

guys i have another question
how do you manage storage?
im assuming drawing a lot with a lot of projects is gonna take a lot of space fast so how do you keep it managable?
just low resolution? or just alot of storage

[Anonymous No.7083198]

>>7083197
>im assuming drawing a lot with a lot of projects is gonna take a lot of space fast
not really but storage is dirt cheap, hard drives and SD cards and such even if you keep all your project files and multiple versions of everything it'll take years to fill up even 512 gigs

[Anonymous No.7083200]

>>7083198
oh okay, what resolution is most common to draw at? i never know how to put my canvas size

[Anonymous No.7083201]

>>7083197
I have been drawing for some years now, some years more than others and im currently only sitting at 9 gigabytes, most is in raw krita format and my canvas size is mostly 5000x5000.

[Anonymous No.7083205]

>>7083201
that sounds kinda insane
does it really use that little storage?

[Anonymous No.7083207]

I'm taking the "draw a girl eating a giant donut without making it look like goatse" challenge head-on. I haven't succeeded yet.

[Anonymous No.7083210]

>>7083197
My art is usually just PNG files so over the years my folder has still only capped out at 1.81 gb with 5k files which is kinda easy to store on any random usb stick or online drive storage service

What kind of size files do you have? Is it out of the question to spend a bit of money on an external hard drive, even cheaper ones can hold up to 2 terabytes but I can't imagine you'd need more than that unless you're an animator or have absurd resolutions which are 10kx10k pixels or more

[Anonymous No.7083213]

>>7083125
nicely done anon, it's a bit faded and the picture you took is low contrast but you can still tell it's a solid copy. You should do more.

[Anonymous No.7083217]

>>7083115
the head and the gesture need some work

[Anonymous No.7083220]

>>7082017
Good attempt! I recommend you try watching Proko's gesture + mannequinization videos if you haven't already.

[Anonymous No.7083221]

>>7083213
Thanks, i'm still doing heads but maybe i should start putting in some figure studies.

[Anonymous No.7083222]

already getting filtered by KTD goddamn.
Picrel advice doesn't help me one bit but i guess i just have to keep going at it.
It's hard to project the size ratios accurately

[Anonymous No.7083223]

>>7082022
Outstanding work!

[Anonymous No.7083227]

>>7083217
nice boobs, bad hands

[Anonymous No.7083231]

Noob here, what are some alternatives to KTD/Loomis?
I'm not doing really well with those.
Do i just have to power through?

[Anonymous No.7083232]

>>7083222
Nothing about that text said anything about "projecting size ratios" or any measuring for that matter. The mission statement is pretty clear
>These rules [...] will help you see things in a fresh and original way
You're filtering yourself bud

[Anonymous No.7083233]

pondering what my next learning step is, i think i will start doing landscapes so i can make imaginary worlds

[Anonymous No.7083234]

>>7083231
what parts exactly are you struggling with? examples of your work would help as well
the only "alternative" is betty edwards but it's not any easier than KTD or loomis and it just goes over the same stuff in a slightly different way

[Anonymous No.7083235]

>>7083232
this is a prelude to drawing machinery and other complex objects made out of many parts and gears and whatnot.
It's supposed to help you draw what's actually there and not just a symbol, but it hasn't been much help to me.
What do i do?
Failure to draw what i've been trying to draw left me pretty discouraged.

[Anonymous No.7083237]

>>7083231
dorian item has an accuracy guide which is KTD in a nutshell
for form/structure you can use dynamic sketching (or draw a box)

[Anonymous No.7083239]

>>7083234
>what parts exactly are you struggling with?
I fail at copying the outline. My mind just can't translate certain unusual shapes and defaults to symbols whenever stuff gets "3D-ish" in an object.
I'll post work soon. I've only did a few attempts that i quickly erased out because they were nowhere close to what should've been.
Also gotten filtered by Betty in the past lol.

[Anonymous No.7083259]

Didn't know where else to post, but do you mind providing feedback on this?

[Anonymous No.7083262]

>>7083235
KTD at no point asks for perfection. All the sample drawings are intentionally loose and sketchy and are never perfect copies. Pic related is the example shown in that section you're so worried about. As long as you get the idea across visually you're already succeeding. Don't take it so seriously, you're only on the first chapter. Let loose and read the self-critique section on pg 37, it tells you how to critique yourself more constructively. It'll be better than maintaining that negativity and over-thinking. You got this.

[Anonymous No.7083292]

>>7083259
form is chunky and unappealing, learn from copying photos and drawing from life, might take a few tries but you'll get there. I would work specifically on fingers, noses and torsos as that's where the bulk of your issues lay

>>7083233
Your copy/color work is great anon, feels like you need to use hard edges more for defined shapes but depends on what you're going for. Keep it up

>>7083207
scribbly but I think it's intentional, if not try drawing using 2-3 lines max per contour, limit yourself to slow long lines. Also lol looks good the shark teeth are funny

>>7083195
Not a hogarth chad so not sure I can help on this but nice work, I would recommend studying michaelangelo, he was the master of this type of muscle/form in perspective

[Anonymous No.7083305]

>>7083131
>>7083217
does this look better?

>>7083197
I have like 20TB of drive space and hoard data

[Anonymous No.7083309]

>>7083305
definitely better but I think you should focus on drawing hands and faces, here's a video to get you started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

[Anonymous No.7083311]

>>7083234
>examples of your work would help as well
It's the silly Liberator pistol from ww2.
I'm just starting out so its bound to be bad, but damn does it feel doscouraging to see what's in the book and then your output is just 10 x worse.
I'll just copy some stuff for fun rn and then i'm done for today.
>>7083262
Thanks anon, i'll read the critique thing. I guess i should save the perfectionism for when i can do anything.

[Anonymous No.7083317]

>>7083040
Thanks for the cool ref

[Anonymous No.7083318]

>>7083311
Those guns were really silly too. It's the only pistol EVER created that can be assembled faster than it can be reloaded, 32 seconds on average. They made half a million of these bad boys with only 300 workers over the course of six months.
They were meant to be airshipped in into occupied nations for the insurgents to use.
Optimial use case would be for an insurgent to magdump an enemy soldier, and steal their actually usable gear.
They were also meant to double as a psychological weapon cause every soldier of the occupant army would have to live in a constant fear of getting shot out of nowhere with a piece of scrap liberator pistol.
It's not offtopic because i did draw it!

[Anonymous No.7083321]

>>7083292
>learn from copying photos and drawing from life
Does that mean toss it out and start all over later?

[Anonymous No.7083325]

>>7083292
>feels like you need to use hard edges more for defined shapes but depends on what you're going for
thank you, i've also been feeling like the next step for me would be to start defining edges a little more than i currently am, my inspiration is artists like yuming li that have extremely soft edges and interesting use of color so i'm trying to slowly figure out how to get this look

[Anonymous No.7083331]

more hand practice
having trouble drawing fingers from a head-on top/bottom perspective (at the very bottom in pic) and idk what to do about it

[Anonymous No.7083332]

[Anonymous No.7083336]

>>7083292
Alright, I fixed the fingers, nose and torso for you, also the character is meant to be a bit chubby so that's why she has a chunky form

[Anonymous No.7083338]

>>7082865
ugly

[Anonymous No.7083340]

>>7083325
>yuming
Gorgeous inspiration anon, thank you for linking me. Wishing you luck on your painterly journey!

[Anonymous No.7083342]

>>7083331

Nice hands, but why are they grasping a giant cock?

[Anonymous No.7083346]

>>7083336
I think you're still lacking a lot of fundamentals, but definitely an improvement, I don't draw chubby/fat characters but here's an artist you may enjoy https://doodleordie.com/profile/woot https://www.deviantart.com/w-oo-t/gallery

[Anonymous No.7083357]

>>7081944
What do you think of this pose and angle? I feel like something's off but can't tell what exactly

[Anonymous No.7083359]

>>7083357
what's going on with the left arm and right foot?

[Anonymous No.7083361]

>my desire to get good at art is stronger than my desire to actually draw
>this results in me never having the motivation to draw because i put so much pressure on myself during my practices
any advice? i do want to get good, but i also want to be able to enjoy the process so that i can just draw for fun without realizing it

[Anonymous No.7083366]

>>7083359
trying to do a pose a bit like this, the knight stepping backwards, showing off his shield, and preparing his flail

[Anonymous No.7083369]

>>7083342
I thought it would be funny and I'll need to learn how to draw cocks later anyway

[Anonymous No.7083372]

>>7083332

[Anonymous No.7083379]

>>7083357
Gonna be honest wasn't able to do a proper redline but I'm sure since I'm posting this "fix" some asshole will correct me and you'll get the pointers you need lol

- Torso a bit lonng
- Leg too short
- face structure looks lumpy
- muscles/armor not defined too well in the arms/legs
-nice fortshortening on the hand flail swing though.

[Anonymous No.7083382]

>>7083379
eyy thank you! That will help
yeah the form is not too defined yet, I want to get the pose and angle right first

[Anonymous No.7083385]

>>7083311
>>7083318
nice pistol
but it's expected to be somewhat hard to draw since even minor errors in perspective result in it looking funky

[Anonymous No.7083387]

>>7083372
death by snu snu

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7083393]

[Anonymous No.7083401]

Is the tongue correct?

[Anonymous No.7083410]

How do i stop procrastinating
I like drawing.
But starting is really the hardest part for me.
I get frustrated at the sketch stage, delete and just idle for hours until i try again.

[Anonymous No.7083412]

>>7083410
Close your eyes. Now tell yourself "I'm gonna draw a stickman for 2 minutes".

Just do that, and you will see.

[Anonymous No.7083415]

>>7083410
i find sketching boring and painting fun, so whenever i see an image that makes me feel inspired to paint it i just block in colors real fast so i can feel it rather than draw cuck lines that bore me, painters do this and it gives fast results that might inspire you to draw more often

[Anonymous No.7083417]

>>7083233
>pondering what my next learning step
have you considered learning how to finish things?

[Anonymous No.7083421]

>>7083417
>learning how to finish things?
Im pretty aware that im finished with something when i no longer feel the spark that inspired me to paint the thing in the first place, and its not like im ever going for realism because thats boring. No point in over polishing something in some attempt at "finishing" like most people fall victim to doing

[Anonymous No.7083423]

>>7083421
>muh spark
>muh me no want realism
great excuses to leave your shit as unfinished undefined messes

[Anonymous No.7083425]

>>7083423
ok

[Anonymous No.7083441]

last two studies. i haven't been able to figure out how to draw highlights on hair. should i be turning stabilization down? or a different brush or something? still pretty much just g-pen + paintbucketing everything, besides some experimenting with pencil.

[Anonymous No.7083454]

Any advice or tutorials for getting good at landscapes?

[Anonymous No.7083455]

Set a goal to draw 500 heads, first 30 done, thought it would take 15 hours but looks more like 20 hours work. I will focus on the nose for the next 10.

Happy to see more work posted in these threads.

[Anonymous No.7083465]

>>7083455
me at :09

[Anonymous No.7083467]

>>7083025

[Anonymous No.7083470]

Did this 25 minute study in a life drawing session today. I know the proportions and the perspective are kinda fucked up but anyone wanna weigh in on what else may be worked on?

[Anonymous No.7083472]

>>7083467
what brush did you use?

[Anonymous No.7083476]

>>7081944
do you guys like this dog i drew just now

[Anonymous No.7083477]

>>7083454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wa4WwFmMYY

[Anonymous No.7083481]

>>7083472

>>7081793

[Anonymous No.7083482]

[Anonymous No.7083487]

>>7083476
looks great

[Anonymous No.7083499]

[Anonymous No.7083512]

>>7083305
The hand on the hip is quite rough still, the spear holding hand seems a little off too

[Anonymous No.7083518]

>>7083195
They don't look like they're on the same plane. Draw their feet.

[Anonymous No.7083521]

>>7083467
turn this into female link and we'll be in buisiness lol
also please stop using those annoying textures with black on skin, looks dirty

[Anonymous No.7083522]

I'm drawing so much worse than yesterday

[Anonymous No.7083569]

oh you guys don't ride threads into the sunset here huh
anyway, whoever asked for dbz meowth >>7083051

[Anonymous No.7083582]

>>7083410
take the pressure off yourself
not every time you draw you need to plan on something
just do something light whether it be some warmups, gestures, copies, or following a guide
even if it doesn't look good it helps get you in that mood to do bigger things

[Anonymous No.7083584]

redline?

[Anonymous No.7083590]

Can i get critique ples?
Yes, this is taken from that Sanae picture.not traced tho, just used as reference.

[Anonymous No.7083613]

>>7083477
Thanks

[Anonymous No.7083634]

ew

[Anonymous No.7083663]

>>7083522
you can only draw as good as today

[Anonymous No.7083668]

>>7083584
nice values/pose/expression/clothes especially

[Anonymous No.7083672]

>>7083521
Damn that’s cool

[Anonymous No.7083686]

>>7083590
breasts look a little odd

They look big but don't stick forward like big breasts do

Also the part of her neck on our right should have a line so we can see where it is, right now it looks like she has no neck

[Anonymous No.7083687]

hey guys, can you guys give a self-study roadmap to becoming a concept artist?

[Anonymous No.7083692]

>>7083687
>step 1: I think you missed the boat my nigga

[Anonymous No.7083695]

How do you guys do measurements when working digitally? I started trying to bring the picture I was working with into Clip Studio and making marks over key points in the picture that I would use as reference for the sketch to make sure everything was accurate and sized correctly, but I found myself just being confused by the marks I made after disabling the layer with the original picture and anything more detailed than those marks was essentially tracing. On paper I just used my pencil and held it up to the picture I was doing a study of to measure parts of the picture, and once I'd measured it I would hold my thumb on whatever part and make a mark with another pencil. I can't really do that digitally so I don't know how to make things accurate.

[Anonymous No.7083696]

>>7083686
Do not give critique when your drawing look like this

[Anonymous No.7083700]

>>7083686
>this is the guy giving your critique in /beg/
The blind leading the blind

[Anonymous No.7083707]

[Anonymous No.7083708]

>>7083696
>>7083700
Hey they asked for critique

Whether they want to listen to it or not is up to them. If they don't think it's useful that's fine

[Anonymous No.7083709]

>>7083707
Her hands look very very small

[Anonymous No.7083714]

>>7083708
When people ask for critique on here, they’re looking for at least an /int/ someone with a deeper understanding of an art skill than them, anatomy in this case, which absolutely is not you

[Anonymous No.7083717]

>>7083714
they didn't specifically ask for anatomy

[Anonymous No.7083739]

>>7083707
looks like ai, spoon :))))

[Anonymous No.7083741]

>>7083709
is this less silly?

[Anonymous No.7083745]

>>7083741
yes

but why'd you flip it horizontally?

[Anonymous No.7083746]

>>7083741
the way you rendered the knees looks flat and anappealing especially the linework on the left oone. I also think the lighting overall is kinda flat and incorrect, if there was a cast shadow on the ground like that there would be more form shadows on the body, dress and the arm on the left side

[Anonymous No.7083752]

I keep having bad drawing day after bad drawing day bros, when does the slump end?

[Anonymous No.7083758]

>>7083752
there's that saying right
>10 hours: familiar
>100 hours: proficient
>1000 hours: good
>10000 hours: expert

don't know how realistic that is

but I'm definitely not at that 100 hours mark yet. Maybe like 15 hours overall.

[Anonymous No.7083769]

>>7083695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ0lz7W0CYs

[Anonymous No.7083787]

>>7083696
>>7083700
If he had not posted his work you probably wouldn't have replied.
There's no quality control here - It's up to the people asking for advice to filter critique and judge if it's actually useful or utter bullshit.
Even someone with no drawing skills can point out if something looks off.

[Anonymous No.7083789]

>>7083752
>>7083758
>1000 hours
>good
Oh boy you guys are in for a rude awakening

[Anonymous No.7083799]

im a permabeg and have also been learning to crypto trade for the past couple of years and its starting to pay off now. in the last few mo ths ive probably drawn like 10 hours tops and i probably wont be drawn much during the next while crypto is in a bull run. i can feel the draining, is there any recovering from this?

[Anonymous No.7083801]

Should have used another paper (I want to ink it, but this paper is bad for it)
Oh well

[Anonymous No.7083810]

>>7083789
I'm here for the long haul anon, I have nothing better to do with my life

[Anonymous No.7083830]

>>7083828
>>7083828
>>7083828
>>7083828
new

[Anonymous No.7083899]

>>7083231
KtD is the most retard-proof drawing book there is. Sorry anon

[Anonymous No.7083910]

>>7083512

[Anonymous No.7084323]

>>7083521
great lighting

[Anonymous No.7085377]

>>7081944
Yo tf is up with my cubes?
>seriously i know im not good, just gib free education ples

[Anonymous No.7086111]

>>7081962
stop sperging out and just draw lolis, people who actually do draw them are too busy worrying what people think