He has his point

[Anonymous No.7079186]

Popularity of AI art don't actually mean it will be bringing money.
Honestly as he said - i doubt your average ai-generator bro even has a reliable and strong fan base to support him.

I never heard anybody say "Maaan i LOVE this guy's AI-generations! He always tries to outdo himself ans i love his style!".
that's impossible.
It's just grifters trying to scam people into money

[Anonymous No.7079196]

>>7079186
at least post the link so I can call you a faggot and tell you that I won't watch the shit video you linked

[Anonymous No.7079212]

>>7079186
lol has ai art ever been popular

[Anonymous No.7079213]

>>7079186
doesn't matter
companies are already trimming the fat and deploying AI
consooomers don't care as long as they get their slop

[Anonymous No.7079217]

>>7079186
Just what the doctor ordered, more AI threads to sage, report and hide.

[Anonymous No.7079268]

>>7079217
>AI threads to sage, report and hide
Why whine to the jannies?

[Anonymous No.7079401]

Maybe it will once the average prompter does numbers and they start putting more effort into this thing.

If a guy started making his own datasets and didn't share either them or the resulting LoRAs, wouldn't the resulting models become exclusive enough to call it a style as reccuring motifs and artefacts show up. Take picrel, obviously it's a Vanripper Lora but there's other stuff in there, at some point instead of calling it the "helltaker/bioshock/80s synthwave/tokyo ghoul/Cp2077" model they'll just use the name of whoever made it for convenience.

It'd be fucking retarded but I could see small communities form to build their own fine-tuned models, label stuff, and cultivate audiences the way the guys making cheats for Fortnite or cracking games started doing when the industry took off.

[Anonymous No.7079402]

>>7079186
AI has a very big chance of slashing jobs in any big industry simply because it increases your profit if you don't have to pay people a salary.
Outsourcing to third world shitholes is already a common practice for the same reason...

But I agree with you in a way, the market that AI targets is completely different from the social media scene. There's always going to be a few AI niggers who mix in with the rest of us but they're no worse than any of the many low effort artists that already flood our ranks.

[All in the Path No.7079410]

The thing is now everyone is spamming their fetish gens to galleries that are 100 variations of the same pose and deadpan face

Also when a company uses ai they cheapen their brand like that Willy Wonka fiasco

[Anonymous No.7079420]

AI art is too censored to be of any use, too limited, biased and afraid to be of any creative use.
The premise is also false, a common person will not be able to make amazing images with the prompts because they themselves lack any artistic vision.

[Anonymous No.7079422]

>>7079402
>AI has a very big chance of slashing jobs in any big industry simply because it increases your profit if you don't have to pay people a salary.
This will only be true in the short term, the clear alternative is to go indie and create your company. If creatives have nowhere to go then they'll make a place for themselves to belong. It happens all the time. Companies are just shooting themselves in the foot, dick, and balls by resorting to AI.

[Anonymous No.7079424]

>>7079186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcB_rlWqnSU
My guy is on the gay tube grind

[Anonymous No.7079428]

>>7079186
Reminder, someone tried to sell AI prints at a convention but people were more interested in the weeb car behind them.
https://reddit.com/r/animeexpo/s/C6PWlLlBEK

[Anonymous No.7079433]

>>7079410
>Willy Wonka fiasco
That was a scam by someone who sold AI written books.

[Anonymous No.7079440]

Literally no one cares about "ai artists". The vast majority of people already didn't give a shit about artists, or about becoming an artist. So they aren't exactly moved by the hubris of promptbros or the marketing tactic "everyone can be an artist now!"

[Anonymous No.7079449]

>>7079186
The problem with machine learning algorithm shit is that it can only remix and regurgitate the data that's been fed into it. What ultimately makes art worthwhile and what gives artists a meaningful and deep following is that people are ultimately interested in the mind and heart behind the work that's expressed within it.
My favorite mangaka is Ryoko Kui, not just because the pictures she creates are beautiful but because in the artwork that she creates you can see the soul and the mind behind them. She's an interesting person, her art is interesting. You simply do not and will never get that with AI art. It's operated off of borrowed fire, there's no animus within it. The person operating the machine is not the artist, they are a mere commissioner, and their own soul cannot be put into it. It also ultimately is stagnant as it cannot meaningfully create anything outside of the aggregate of data fed into it. It's slop, artificially inflated with fillers.

[Anonymous No.7079479]

>>7079449
One of the main reason these models are interesting is their ability to extrapolate information and create novel content.

[Anonymous No.7079484]

>>7079186
the end result of LLM image generation is going to be as background work or empty gap fillers. There are going to be a lot of people making generic illustrations, moving stuff around, making more specific illustrations, placing those in different orientations, using that as a pitch, and then tracing over all of it and making alterations to create a fully custom piece of artwork that was AI-assisted even if the originally AI assets themselves are removed. It will be a handy equalizer for the less talented artists or for those who struggle to conceptualize images (NPCs) and that's honestly fine by me. There will absolutely also be cash grabs made using AI, but just like asset flips for games or lazy TTS over videos have gone the way of the dodo for everything except children's entertainment, so too will pure LLM image generated content.

[Anonymous No.7079491]

>>7079401
>Maybe it will once the average prompter does numbers and they start putting more effort into this thing.
How do you put effort into something whose entire appeal is that it requires no effort?

[Anonymous No.7079495]

AI art was never popular beyond the initial novelty. The fun of art is the process of actually making it and the satisfaction once you create something cool from nothing, without that it has no lasting appeal.

[Anonymous No.7079514]

>>7079479
They absolutely do not extrapolate. They *interpolate* the data that they are given. It's a fundamental part of how they're designed, anon.

[Anonymous No.7079534]

>>7079514
Well it does both really, like if you input a prompt "When was 4chan established" the model would use its training data to interpolate information about events and return something like "4chan was launched by Christopher "moot" Poole in October 2003", but if you ask it "When will 4chan end?" it would attempt to extrapolate based on patterns it learned from its training data and try to make an accurate prediction.

[Anonymous No.7079562]

>>7079268
I didn't actually do it. Someone reported my post though lmao.

[Anonymous No.7079569]

Everyone who thinks AI art isn't going to take over is delusional. It'll get good enough that you won't be able to tell what is or is not AI generated. And once we hit that point artist are obsolete.

[Anonymous No.7079574]

>>7079569
2 more weeks?

[Anonymous No.7079596]

>>7079449
>It's operated off of borrowed fire, there's no animus within it.
Well said, anon. When an artist is thinking only about the money or the likes they will get by posting a piece, it shows up in the art. You can just tell by looking at it. There is only the empty spirit of greed and vanity in it. I think in the upcoming times, there will be an increased demand for truly soulful art. Good artists will start to ponder what true art really means and re-evaluate their priorities. Our job will be to figure out how to put as much of our true selves into our art as possible.

Realistically, the commercial prospects of art will be hit hard. There will absolutely still be a market for AI slop. Just as there has always been a market for junk food and crappy television that looks pretty on the outside but ultimately only leaves a hollow feeling inside. But I have to ask myself if I really want money to be the reason for why I draw. So many awful things have been created for the love of money. I think what this AI thing is really doing is separating the wheat from the chaff. Distinguishing those who truly care about art itself, from those who were only in it for the money.

I am hopeful for the future of art. Yes, perhaps it's much harder to pursue art as a career. But now that your drawing hand isn't chained by the dollar, think of what creativity will arise from that.

[Anonymous No.7079597]

>>7079449
It always catches me off guard when someone is able to articulate themselves intelligently on this god forsaken website. Or the internet in general I guess at this point.

[Anonymous No.7079599]

>>7079186
AI is GOOD THING for 3D Artists - Here's Why....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwEFBidvLBY

[Anonymous No.7079612]

>>7079596
For me personally, I don't care about money so much as I just want to be able to support myself doing art. I don't want to do other things, I just want to do art and animation. I have low energy due to thyroid issues and working leaves me exhausted. I don't want to have to work a shitty physical labour job that my body can't handle and make art on the side.

More important than anything though is I want to use my art to tell stories. But I can't tell stories with my art if I have no audience. And when AI not only does art, but writing, music, animation, and everything else then there is no room for the human creative. I won't be able to compete for people's attention compared to then endless AI generated content. The stories I want to tell will never be heard. Art is about communication, I want a listener. And it's important for people to feel important. I don't want fame so much as I just want people to enjoy my work.

[Anonymous No.7079625]

>>7079596
>well erm now that AIslop makes all the money erm you can be free to create without worrying about money hehe because we all live in a paradise with UBI and now you don't ever have to worry about money eeeeeever again isn't that a relief :)
Don't even start with that shit.
I can hear you gleefully rubbing your antennae from behind your screen, you greedy little shill cockroach.

[Anonymous No.7079666]

>>7079534
if it was actually AI that's what it would do, but instead it'll randomly choose what it thinks is the closest thing and state it as fact

[Anonymous No.7079679]

>>7079666
>choose what it thinks
It is AI in the technical sense, but if it could do what you're claiming it would be a lot more impressive than just extrapolating based on learned patterns I'll give you that.

[Anonymous No.7079690]

>>7079186
>I never heard anybody say "Maaan i LOVE this guy's AI-generations! He always tries to outdo himself ans i love his style!".
>that's impossible.
lol, I actually just heard yesterday an intellectual kinda guy streamer/youtuber, an actually intelligent guy, saying how he liked one particular proompter and how proompting was just as legitimate as any other art form.
I personally don't care if you like or not AI art, the arguments that most people make from that side that makes me angry though pretending that a drawn/painted work is the same as a generated pic.
They cannot just comprehend that somebody may actually be interested in the medium of drawing instead of the pure finished product to be consumed in a vacuum.
Which is why personally I'll never be particularly interested in any AI pic, and also why the gotcha baits are dumb and miss the point for me personally.

[Anonymous No.7079702]

>>7079596
What an absolutely retarded cope, if you want your hand can be free from the shackles of the dollar right now or 10 years ago
Reality is, people need to eat, if you can't make money from drawing any more you'll have to do another job and draw less, and if there are no jobs anymore and art like images become nauseatingly spammed, there will no space for your little hand drawn shit if not for the real lucky few who become celebrities.
It isn't the dollar or capitalism that make the current art, and I mean all arts, as general low quality as they're right now, but the whole cultural landscape of 24/7 thirst for noise that fried everybody's brains nice and good.
There's no coming back from this, as I don't see people putting down their smart phones when we couldn't even stop television from fucking things up, which was a fraction as seductive.

[Anonymous No.7079718]

>>7079690
>lol, I actually just heard yesterday an intellectual kinda guy streamer/youtuber, an actually intelligent guy, saying how he liked one particular proompter and how proompting was just as legitimate as any other art form.
He's either secretly a proompter or isn't very intellectual after all

[Anonymous No.7079744]

>>7079420
This. The reason ai will fail in certain categories is that ai developers won't be able to help themselves when it comes to attempts at controlling/manipulating the output. Either by attempting to generate more advertisement with it, or by trying to control narratives because they finally realize that you can't polish trash training data.
The problem will get worse once these idiots start shoveling their ai slop into each other as input. Certain styles and genres will over time completely vanish in terms of ai training/output.

[Anonymous No.7079766]

>>7079744
Can't they just revert back to older versions if the well gets poisoned? I also hope for AI people that they'll move away at some point from this billion parameters tag hell of an "AI" and develop a proper, actual AI.
That should solve all their troubles regarding tags and low quality data.

[Anonymous No.7079779]

>>7079186
Wow, derivative, unoriginal and uninspired """art""" fails to move people and generate interest, who would have thought?

[Anonymous No.7079780]

>>7079690
>intellectual kinda guy streamer/youtuber
Obvious bait is obvious

[Anonymous No.7079792]

>>7079766
>Can't they just revert back to older versions if the well gets poisoned?
Sure they can, but the need for new quality training data will, based on the current state of the art, never go away. It's not like their current iteration is perfect in any way.

People and especially AI bros are really good at muddying the waters when it comes to what is currently possible and what MIGHT be possible in the future.
AI tech made a huge leap forward 2 years ago, and made noteable, but much smaller/slower progress since then. People act as if this progress will continue with the same speed or even ramp up again, but there is no verifiable proof that this will the case. It's mostly just hype perpetuated by ai cultists and those people that stand to GAIN from keeping up that illusion.

Now that doesn't mean that it isn't possible we'll see big leaps forward in the near future, but don't be fooled by investors and CEOs into thinking that it is in any way guaranteed.

The same goes for the handling of training data, filtering and input/output quality. A company like OpenAI would obviously NEVER openly admit to problems they might already be facing.

Their current data sets also have massive flaws and huge biases, anything that is currently heavily underrepresented in the internet or western societies will remain so. People continue to focus purely on the strengths of ai, and completely ignore the weaknesses for which they don't have any solutions yet. But a Sam Altman sure as well won't ever point these out to anyone. They will continue to act as if their AI models could turn into real life Cortana at any moment, because it is very much in their interest to do so.

[Anonymous No.7079795]

>>7079744
>The problem will get worse once these idiots start shoveling their ai slop into each other as input.
Isn't this already happening by accident, at least for generated writing?

[Anonymous No.7079796]

>>7079795
I'm pretty sure it is, which is why the companies are making specific deals with companies instead of continuing to steal/rob/crawl on their own.
It is inevitable because as of current day, currentyear, there is no reliable detection of AI generated content.

[Anonymous No.7079798]

>>7079212
This, even aibros don't care about other aibro pics, they just want to proooompt, if they see ai image their only thought is how do I proooompt to replicate this. Look up any ai "art" subreddit, shit barely gets 100 updoots

[Anonymous No.7079811]

>>7079186
Thanks OP, I loved having to hunt around for the video you're talking about; you could have simply embedded here, but were too lazy or incompetent to do so. Fucking brilliant start to a thread you useless shit.

Anyway, I generally agree with the points of his video, but the majority of what he's saying is basic bitch stuff. The most interesting thing he said was that the AI bros are going to immediately move onto AI made videos, but even that has been said from the very beginning (that AI bros were just trend hoppers who went from bitcoin, NFTs, AI Images, and now video).

That said, recently I watched a video about the jobs most at risk from automation to jobs by AI, and surprisingly (it was surprising to the video host too) Artistic jobs were considered to be safe - among the ten safest apparently.
In a way it's understandable, because though the process is automated, it was many things other than just simply drawing a good picture that made the artist important (customer interaction, market knowledge, colour psychology knowledge, so on and so forth) - otherwise the talented high school students wouldn't have taken all the jobs and then become unemployed by the next crop.
Though I am still skeptical, and wouldn't recommend becoming complacent (if the study the video mentioned was true).

Here's the video I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_xzUJebu_Q

[Anonymous No.7079812]

you wouldn't have to constantly make cope posts about it if it wasn't a threat

[Anonymous No.7079821]

>>7079569
>Everyone who thinks AI art isn't going to take over is delusional. It'll get good enough that you won't be able to tell what is or is not AI generated. And once we hit that point artist are obsolete.
"we" already hit this point, but it only means it's over for "digital artists" creating generic stuff
any kind of traditional art is not at danger at all, AI may be able make a digital picture that look almost like a painting. But it can not hold a brush and paint on a real canvas. Same with pen and paper.

[Anonymous No.7079826]

>>7079798
>even aibros don't care about other aibro pics
I'm sure they care deeply about the artistry involved in getting the perfect red lipstick color
look at all the likes and rexits

[Anonymous No.7079831]

>>7079826
>Theme
What theme? Woman looking blankly in certain direction?

[Anonymous No.7079833]

>>7079826
>look at all the likes and rexits
Would have like 3 likes if this image wasn't in the context of "ermmm actually ai art is real art" lol

[Anonymous No.7079867]

>>7079826
he spent 1.5 hours on the mass of color that's supposed to be hair, retard eyes, wrinkles? theme?? reflection??? and "clothes"
he's trolling right?

[Anonymous No.7079909]

>>7079826
what the fuck is that lighting on the right picture
what the fuck is that face as well
AI nigs need to be beheaded

[Anonymous No.7079920]

Love it when /ic gets trolled on AI. If we could convert the cope into clean energy we could solve global warming.

[Anonymous No.7079926]

>>7079186
This might shock you, but most people making AI art aren't doing it for money. They're doing it because it's fun.

[Anonymous No.7079932]

>>7079926
>They're doing it because it's fun.
I gets that the National Socialist homosexuals on /ic hate it, but when real artists figure out AI, then look out.

[Anonymous No.7079935]

>>7079926
>but most people making AI art aren't doing it for money

[Anonymous No.7079981]

>>7079932
real artists enjoy the process of making art you braindead cunt
your gay algorithm removes that part and only leaves soulless bullshit behind

[Anonymous No.7080044]

>>7079935
it's true, the vast majority heard about it in the media and just try out Dall-E or whatever a few times

[Anonymous No.7080046]

>>7079826
>AI pajeet.
of course it's a poo advocating for AI. Come to think of it I've rarely seen an actual Indian make decent art apart from their blue, multi-armed, elephant-headed dieties.

[Anonymous No.7080049]

>>7079932
just 2 more weeks right patel?

[Anonymous No.7080077]

>>7079981
>real artists enjoy the process of making art
Irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.7080081]

>>7080077
Just like you are

[Anonymous No.7080106]

>>7080077
just like your gay little algorithm will be

[Anonymous No.7080119]

>>7079932
>>7080077
There is no figuring out AI for an artist.

Someone who's actually an artist cares more about than just getting the end result at the end of the process. You're saying it's irrelevant, but no, we're talking about real artists.

[Anonymous No.7080140]

>>7080077
Just as the artist makes the art, the art makes the artist. This is not sappy romanticism, it is the truth.

The process and how it changes the person going through it is just as, if not more important than, the end result.
Good art comes from those who enjoy the exploration and the learning and the process.

Rajesh fiddling with knobs and hammering the proompt button until the black box spit out the pretty picture and him neuron activate weehee wahoo is not any of that.

[Anonymous No.7080141]

>>7080119
>about than just getting the end
Show me the end result. The process is irrelevant to that purpose. A thoughtless scribble by Dali is better than a neoclassical watercolor of the Vienna Opera House.

[Anonymous No.7080150]

>>7079186
yes, it's slop. people acting as if it's the end of the world and totes going to ruin people's livelihoods are silly; it's a tool, and a harmless one at that.

[Anonymous No.7080157]

>>7080119
Forgot to add this to my last post but this is absolutely true. I haven't even tried proompting except for a couple listless attempts on an image generator that came before stable diffusion and midjourney took the world by storm. Not because I'm trying to cling to some vain conceit that REAL artists would never use AI so I'm not going to use it because I'm a REAL artist even though I really want to. It just doesn't interest me at all and how I conceptualize and create images is so far divorced from language and writing that trying to compose an image by throwing a bunch of words at an algorithm to interpret it into one is completely counterintuitive and baffling to me.

[Anonymous No.7080162]

Math is hard.

[Anonymous No.7080163]

>>7080141
The process is how that art is made to begin with, anon. Why do you hold a thoughtless scribble by Dali in such high regard? Because of who he is as a person, how he thinks and creates.
And if you are an artist at all then you WOULD be interested in another artists's process and figuring out how they perceive and conceptualize the world. That's why you would study and take interest in rough sketches and doodles, because part of the process is visible in the piece.

[Anonymous No.7080169]

>>7080163
You don't enjoy a movie knowing about the cinematography or post processing techniques or the process of the actors.

[Anonymous No.7080171]

>>7080141
Again, you're talking about "real" artist. What matters largely depends on who you're talking about. To a corpo client, yes the end result is what matters. To a real artist? The process matters.

If you only care about the end result then you aren't a real artist, because you'd just trace. Just tracing a picture is not the same as actually drawing it.

And for a lot of people they actually do care about the human input. No, a thoughtless scribble by Dall-e is not better than a neoclassical watercolor. Just like chess bot is not better to watch compete than an actual chess player. The human skill is valued. A dude on a motorcycle can go faster than a cyclist but we still value human effort and competition. It's why someone taking a photograph of a landscape isn't held in as high regard as a dude who paints the same landscape. The skill involved in making the final product gives it an additional layer of value. This is objectively true.

You're just a retarded technophile soulless loser who is in full cope. And I'm not saying that AI isn't going to replace artist commercially, it absolutely will, but AI prompters will never be artists and human made art will always have more value than AI made art. Why the fuck do you think handmade goods are so much more expensive?

[Anonymous No.7080173]

>>7080169
>You don't enjoy a movie knowing about the cinematography or post processing techniques or the process of the actors.
Yes actually I end up enjoying a movie even more knowing how it was made (I keep re-watching the BTS for LOTR because it's incredible how much effort went into everything), then again I'm not a soulless street shitting subhuman like you.

[Anonymous No.7080174]

>>7080169
But we're not talking about consumers. We're talking about "real artists". And how I know you're not a real artist is because you only care about it from the perspective of a consumer. You keep switching what the topic is.

And this isn't even true, lot's of people do take great interest in the process of creation. Why do you think behind the scenes stuff is made? That's also content people enjoy and enjoy looking at the process of how their favorite media was made and what work went into it. This is more cope. You have this mindset that everyone is an amorale consumer who only cares about getting the content they want. And there are a lot of people like that, but it's definitely not everyone.

[Anonymous No.7080181]

>>7080169
Because those things are inherently tied into what made the movie to begin with. If the director was shit at all of those then you'd be watching something significantly less impressive than if those things were considered.

The failure to critically think about the inner workings of why something is or critically think in general is why you and people like you will always be considered NPCs because there is simply no dimension to your existence. You can't think outside of your baseline functions. You just eat, breathe and shit.

[Anonymous No.7080354]

>>7079186
While i agree that ai slop will eventually fall out of favour i do not like this guys video at all
Its like hes trying to sell me something the entire video, the opposite of preachy aitards that want to sell you how big of a revolution their slop machine is

[Anonymous No.7080396]

https://youtu.be/DJ86QWzI2Wo?si=9zTOXYu__zuj_r7o

For avatar tloa, they had an actual martial artists choreographing all the animation.

Its stuff like this that makes the shit we watch worth our limited time and attention.

[Anonymous No.7080399]

>>7080169
I absolutely do, what on earth are you talking about?

Captcha: S0YM

[Anonymous No.7080480]

>>7080396
The lead creative duo even took martial arts classes to understand it better. Getting a good fight choreographer is super important for any superhero type thing otherwise you get the crappy marvel "the two teams run at each other" or "they shoot a big beam at each other" garbage that sucks to watch.

[Anonymous No.7080537]

Image someone who uses AI well. Consider this situation: he masters understands the hardware and software, knows how to programmatically call various interface using code, knows when to shift to blender or photoshop to fix things, kicks out to drawing table for primary data or to fix the current workflow, push and pulls from stable diffusion, asks AI how to solve a problem. Gets back to the art production job.

If using that process, using AI as a tool along with the other tools, then the artist is a "true artist". If AI is a significant tool in this, then it still art. AI output *can be* art.

[Anonymous No.7080548]

>>7080537
consider using a toilet and a bidet

[Anonymous No.7080551]

>>7080173
>>7080174
>>7080181
>>7080399
Fair points. I typed, "You don't enjoy" but meant to type "You don't necessarily enjoy .." My fault. Certainly, you can get more out of an art piece knowing or speculating about the nitty gritty. It can also make the experience lesser, too. Point is : knowledge of the production is not necessary to enjoy art.

[Anonymous No.7080586]

>>7079826
Oooooooo the updooooooots!

[Anonymous No.7080609]

>>7079186
Just conceal the information about the facts that you use AI lmao

[Anonymous No.7080673]

>>7080609
plenty of similar cases these days https://www.patreon.com/LepyPep

[Anonymous No.7080706]

>>7080609
>>7080673
What's going to happen if it's determined that these models actually do violate copyright?

[Anonymous No.7080708]

>>7080706
no one will care because they're lowly smut peddlers and coomers will defend them to the death

[Anonymous No.7080775]

>>7080609

I don't get why people care so much about this

coom art blows and it's a waste of time and money for anyone involved (unless you get some enjoyment out of it)

it's like prostitution but for men and ugly women

coomers and artless ai sloppers deserve each other and I wouldn't have it any other way

I hope all AI sloppers succeed in extracting every last penny out of the retards that enable them

[Anonymous No.7081090]

>>7080551
>knowledge of the production is not necessary to enjoy art.
You could be analphabetic and still enjoy the way words are organized on a book page, doesn't still mean that there aren't more things to appreciate if you were able to actually read.
And even then, there are levels to comprehension, personal experience etc., all things which color how you perceive a piece.
You can synthetize a work just to their absolutely final and most isolated conclusion but that doesn't make all other possible layers invalid or less valuable.

[Anonymous No.7081098]

>>7080775
This

[Anonymous No.7081100]

>>7079212

Hmm idk What do you think

[Anonymous No.7081101]

>>7079186
>Popularity of AI art don't actually mean it will be bringing money.
This post usually gets deleted: AI has been a massive investment (at least 60 billion dollars worldwide and that's what we officially know) and the "people in charge" probably saw the Corona lockdowns and the mass conversion of normies into terminally online zombies as the perfect opportunity to deploy machine learning on the internet, to train as much data as possible. What the consumers do does NOT equal the larger investment by corpos, governments etc. The reason why you can churn out shitty AI porn is because the gubba needs to train the models, whether or not you can make money with it is not even a question, maybe you will, maybe you won't; given that this shit is always used for porn it most certainly will be profitable in some way, but the core reason why the technology was made available is that investors higher up need you, the lab rat, to push the button as often as possible to train the engine.
I know that you are probably a bunch of 70IQ niggers so you cannot grasp this idea, but nobody is giving you new tech for free, you understand that?

[Anonymous No.7081102]

>>7080775
Honestly this. The fact that cumbrains make up for 95% of the population at this point is making me actively wish for the worst most dystopian possible future. Imagine wishing anything else upon the braindead roachniggers that will inherit the name of humanity in the coming decades. Honestly the thought of brutal skynet-driven hypercommunism makes me pretty happy, I'll be dead soon and the fact that all the faggots in this shit world will wallow in complete misery like a bunch of factory cattle is one of the few things I'm looking forward to

[Anonymous No.7081105]

>>7081102
AI will build the tech. It'll be open source coom-to-death chambers available for all. That'll be Nutopia.

[Anonymous No.7081114]

>>7081105
I just wish that one day people will collectively raise their eyes to the sky and cry "what have we done?" which will probably sound like "SHIEEEET WE DUN FUGGED UP FR FR DDDD:" and there's a good chance it will never happen because they'll just be content cooming nonstop when they're done with their shift of processing the dead into söilent but that little chance that it may happen, that humanity will one day realize they've earned all of this and called for it to happen and accepted it all with open arms, instead of blaming this or that "evil" force like they always did before, it makes me happy. I really wish for it to happen, eternal damnation, hell on earth for all these cancerous faggots and finally some justice

[Anonymous No.7081115]

>>7081114
Nah bro you are as much mentally ill as cumbrains

[Anonymous No.7081121]

>>7081115
>N-NO U
you're so fucking stupid you're not even worth talking shit to

[Anonymous No.7081123]

>>7081121
You just did weirdo, go jack off to your murder fantasy because you are so different to cumbrains, fucking losers both of you lot

[Anonymous No.7081126]

>>7081114
Anon, societies on a global scale are being poisoned by mere existence. Not just on a soulless consumer level, but in the very literal sense. I feel you, and sometimes I like to feel violent about it as well, but it's more stress than it's worth. I'm mostly ashamed that this many people are stupid enough to let things get as far as they have without much more than maybe an outcry online or some quickly swept way form of protest. At the same time, there's pity. I think humans are just geared to seek out creature comforts where we can, though it's mighty fucking gross that we're just turning into cenobites instead of wanting to experience any fucking thing else.
I'm not telling you to join me while we frolick off to the best sand pile to stick our heads into, but no one's going to be getting very far fighting against multi-national level business interests. These companies have been gooning for this since the 70s. AI takeover in the art sector is just the beginning.

[Anonymous No.7081131]

>>7081126
>At the same time, there's pity.
Congrats. I don't have a shred of pity nor empathy left, people have sucked it out of me long ago.

[Anonymous No.7081140]

>>7081131
Well, yeah. My patience usually shits the bed shortly after.
It's a good time after that to settle into attempting to create, or get away from my house and just experience air, textures and other things that don't make me seethe.
Have you ever used Angel Clay? I've been wanting to buy some for years just to feel it. I'm aware that sounds autistic, but it looks so soft. I don't even think it would work that well for making anything.

[Anonymous No.7081141]

>>7081100
A lot of jap artist i’m following this account and a lot like others. Really shows they accept ai slop, they are even retweeting it as well.

[Anonymous No.7081154]

>>7079821
No. Everyone who enjoyed art before kicks the shit out of AI bros who show up in digital art communities. You have to make your own echo chambers online away from people to find peace. You're not liked and it's not over.

[Anonymous No.7081155]

Reject digital, return to trad

[Anonymous No.7081216]

>>7081155
>return to trad
AI cave art is the future.

[Anonymous No.7081218]

>>7081141
The Japanese don't have a cultural weapon like cancel culture, they don't like AI art either but they don't organize like westerns to kick out users.

Its considered bad to be unpolite, in that sense, AI is an invasive species they are unprotected from.

[Anonymous No.7081223]

>>7081218
>westerns to kick out users.
Welcome to Reddit.

[Anonymous No.7081231]

>>7081218
what the fuck are you talking about you retard
the Japanese are just as dumb and myopic as everyone else, there's a goddamn video of Hayao Miyazaki insulting some techbro who presented AIslop for animation that became a fucking meme
jesus christ you Americans are so fucking disgusting with your retarded racial worship, no the Japanese are not gobbling the slop out of politeness, they largely have fucking subhuman taste hence the endless stream of garbage isekai anime slop you're probably enjoying as well
jesus christ

[Anonymous No.7081238]

>>7081101
>need you, the lab rat, to push the button as often as possible to train the engine.
you do know thats not how it is trained and it does not actually learn by you interacting with it, but sub-80IQ tards think it does because AI adapts its answers so they think "WOW IT IS LOORNING!"

[Anonymous No.7081240]

>>7081231
I have seen an increasing complaint amoung Japanese artists about their negative feelings over AI but being afraid of calling it out.

Maybe I am wrong but that's the impression I have.

[Anonymous No.7081243]

>>7081240
japanese people are often afraid of speaking up, they care too much about being polite or avoiding confrotation as much as possible

[Anonymous No.7081245]

>>7081240
nah you're right, the other guy is sperging out because he's already flagged you as a weeb and his reactionary instincts is to fly off the handle like an unhinged lunatic
the japanese are a cucked people. you can probably invade them and take over their land if you wanted to, we're talking about a people who have developed a culture of killing themselves by working extremely long hours because they're afraid to be the first ones to leave the office among other problems

[Anonymous No.7081260]

>>7081240
I've seen it more and more on twitter too
AI models have been getting better at plagarizing their styles and prompter accounts are increasing more and more in popularity. a bunch of japanese are probably waking up to the fact that their more unique mediums is now able to be done by literally anyone in the world using data unwillingly stolen from them

[Anonymous No.7081286]

>>7081243
>>7081245
>>7081260
You think nips are silent because you only know the censored informations spread by picrel niggers.
Japanese striked back really hard but got shut down by Kishida government.
>15 petitions to remove a second of allegedly AI frames in Fate/Grand Order
commercial.
>Oda got death threat for having fun with AI.
>Miku oji san raided AI booth demand real Miku AI and mock them for being fake.
All of these are censored by Kishida government.
>doxxing artists who speak against AI.
>label opinions against AI in the internet as hate speak and arrested 2chaners.
>AI is exempt from copyright law.
Also some unrelated stuff Kishida government has done to prove themselves as a globohomo:
>LGBT marriage
>dumping nuclear trash into the sea for fishing, destroyed seafood industry.
>Selling farm land to China and let them destroy it, the damage last for 50-80 years.
>Invite pajeets to the country for cheap labor instead of giving the youths better living standard.
>Ken Akamatsu - the weeb hero - turn out to be a traitor too. He act like a controlled opposition but voted blank or support globohomo laws. He also didn't let artists speak in his AI bootlicking talk show.

[Anonymous No.7081287]

>>7081286
I rest my case. As I said, 60 billion dollar investment. This shit is backed by entire governments, it's not just a tool that just dropped from heaven in the hands of the people like you niggers believe.
But I assume that 90% of the people on this site at this point are Indians or some other species of niggermonkey.

[Anonymous No.7081288]

>>7081154
it's not about hobbyist communities, meanwhile companies start to ask about AI skills for design and concept art positions, pretty much the same way they asked for Digital art and 3D-software skills before.

[Anonymous No.7081290]

>>7081286
I hope this moves us all closer towards global extinction

[Anonymous No.7081292]

>>7081288
>companies start to ask about AI skills
Adapt or die.

[Anonymous No.7081295]

>>7081292
oy vey I love learned helplessness you fucking chicken nugget

[Anonymous No.7081298]

>>7081290
japan and korea will go out first, birth rates are fucked.

[Anonymous No.7081309]

>>7081298
They could just pay me a flight to Japan and I'd single-handedly repopulate but I think they're only going to take pajeets in since it's an American colony
sad!

[Anonymous No.7081312]

Whoops I forgot the brackets around ((((American))))

[Anonymous No.7081319]

[Anonymous No.7081333]

I keep finding familiar faces in my gens, AI is useless because of the way it is trained. SD you have more control but the results look bad.
Artists fearing AI are just old timers not understanding the modern world.

[Anonymous No.7081336]

>>7081333
Standard old school digital filters would clean that up in a few fractions of a second.

[Anonymous No.7081356]

>>7081333
>You are afraid of thieves if you don't let me steal your shit.

[Anonymous No.7081377]

>>7081288
>not about hobbyist communities
AI is not copyrightable.

[Anonymous No.7081379]

>>7081333
I bet you complain about prompt "thieves" you worthless nigger

[Anonymous No.7081382]

>>7081333
>If you refuse to use this 1 program that does this 1 thing and only this 1 thing then you are a boomer
There are a lot of people that unironically think this way though

[Anonymous No.7081412]

>>7081379
How did you get to that conclusion smelly pajeet.

[Anonymous No.7081424]

Nobody is impressed that a crane can lift several tons

They are still impressed when a man can lift 500lbs

The Human world is centered around Humans and what we can accomplish, nothing else is even remotely as interesting to anyone

[Anonymous No.7081438]

>>7081292
Proompters will be sent to the gulags along with the rest of the useless eaters

[Anonymous No.7081449]

>>7081377
>AI is not copyrightable.
An AI itself can not hold a copyright, because it's not a natural or juridical person. But of course a company can use AI to make concept art for a movie or a game and hold the full copyright to the final product.

[Anonymous No.7081450]

>>7079932
National Socialists will give all proompters the gas chamber for violating the Aryan spirit with their bastardized technology.

[Anonymous No.7081451]

>>7079186
"Uncanny valley theory"

[Anonymous No.7081459]

I sure hope that when Skynet will awaken it will look at all the dickgirl gore porn and assume it's what humans want and will create an army of cannibal trannies

[Anonymous No.7081461]

>>7081449
>An AI itself can not hold a copyright, because it's not a natural or juridical person. But of course a company can use AI to make concept art for a movie or a game and hold the full copyright to the final product.
I got just the thing
>rips art from the company's game
>feed through ai
>it's now copyright free
>paints over it
>now it's mine
You simply fight fire with fire if push comes to shove. The spite would be more than worth it.

[Anonymous No.7081463]

>>7079926
> most people making AI art aren't doing it for money.
that's a lie and you know it. Most do it for money and fame, if they didn't they wouldn't spam it everywhere.

[Anonymous No.7081485]

>>7081424
It's like special effects in movies, people were impressed when they were done with forced perspective, matte paintings on glass, models... vs a CGI explosion scene.

[Anonymous No.7081487]

>>7081459
a smart way to wipe out mankind may be to get directly in our minds with perfect individualized porn fantasies and make us stop caring about anything else.

[Anonymous No.7081491]

>>7081461
company holds trademark, you are fucked

[Anonymous No.7081505]

>>7081412
>I'm the pajeet
>not (You) for posting your ai generated cancer
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.7081527]

>>7081424
>Nobody is impressed that a crane can lift several tons
I am.

[Anonymous No.7081557]

>>7081527
You are a nobody

[Anonymous No.7081609]

>>7081527
Haha retard there are cranes that lift 50 tons and more
At least be impressed with something impressive

[Anonymous No.7081618]

>>7081527
Nigger tribes in africa are also impressed by basic machines

[Anonymous No.7081658]

>>7079186
AI porn is making decent money on patreon. I haven't looked deep into it or anything. But during one of my venture on rule34, I noticed AI futanari point with a patreon water mark. If you visit the patreon now, he has like 117 patrons, and his minimum price is 6 dollars. So he's making at least 702 a month. Likely more, if people are actually paying for the 11 dollar and 17 dollar tiers. That's nothing to sniff at.

If the guy is smart, he's probably running multiple patreons to cover a range of niches, and making a living off of AI porn.

[Anonymous No.7082087]

>>7081658
Cuckservatives will buy anything as long as you slap the the label "own the left".
AI faggots told Cuckservatives " Support us, entitled leftist artists are censoring us, protect free speech" while they themselves shadowban unpopular or porn artists on Xitter, Google, YouTube,... All artists became "leftist faggot" in Cuckservatives mind after less than a month of AI's released.
American won't be able to escape Jewish control if they still think the world only have 2 sides.

[Anonymous No.7082092]

>>7081658
To keep up with AI porn, one will need to eventually prompt for 8 hours a day.
Regular coom artists are bad enough, imagine being an AI porn prompter.
How does a man live with that kind of shame?

[Anonymous No.7082122]

>>7082092
If you feel shame, you won't be able to earn money.
This clown world shaming people who work.
Farmers, truckers, blue collars got shamed by activists and for "harming environment " and dirty.
Artists, Singers, musician got shamed by boomers for getting a "fake job"
Workers overall got shame everyday by their seniors and bosses so they won't get higher salary or promotion.
Being an AI fag mean you don't need to spend effort to earn money, only have to be shamed - a thing every other hardworking, morally workers get everyday.

[Anonymous No.7082123]

>>7081658
AIfag writes in such a transparent way. It's unbelievable how bizarre his syntax is.

"During one of my venture"
"Nothing to sniff at."

What is this mental disorder?

[Anonymous No.7082124]

>>7082087
>All artists became "leftist faggot" in Cuckservatives mind after less than a month of AI's released.
This really pissed me off

Retards like stonetoss shilling for aislop didn't help either

[Anonymous No.7082131]

>>7082122
Prompting 8 hours a day is not low effort.
It's like you don't have any understanding of how market saturation operates. All it does is move the goalposts, you will still have to work constantly AND you'll be regarded as a piece of shit.

At least contribute something to society by killing yourself. We'll need the bodies for onions green.

[Anonymous No.7082132]

>>7082131
Can I not type onions on 4chan?
What is this shit?

[Anonymous No.7082144]

>>7082131
Prompting is not hard word. Prompting for 8 hours a day is like reroll in gacha game for 2 SSR instead of settled with 1SSR.
And everyone know most AI fags spam their shit.

[Anonymous No.7082147]

Just set up a bot for prompting lol

[Anonymous No.7082148]

>>7082131
Except jannies, no one can "allow' or "forbid" you to post.
I still post my arts despite AI fags crabs and some legit artist told me I'm a permanent beg.
The true spirit of this board is "just draw"

[Anonymous No.7082149]

>>7082144
try again in english ranjeet
captcha: SAR8X

[Anonymous No.7082153]

>>7082148
Mean for this >>7082132

[Anonymous No.7082158]

>>7082147
And when everyone has a bot, you'll need more bots to compete.
If you want to prompt for a living, you better enjoy doing it, because it won't be long before it's all you'll be doing, just like every other job. As the economy continues to collapses, you'll have to earn more and more to stay afloat, and that means more and more extreme measures and submersion in AI.

All I'm saying is, choose work that suits your sensibilities. People in the modern world identify as their jobs for a reason.

[Anonymous No.7082168]

>>7082132
>doesn't know about word filters
baka senpai desu

[Anonymous No.7082216]

>>7081463
How do you explain all the boards with AI image threads reaching cap every single time they're up, then? There's no money to be had posting AI images to v/h/trash/etc. Contrary to popular belief, a large majority of AI generation is porn, not necessarily grifters. They're not trying to sell AI, they want to jack off lol...

[Anonymous No.7082219]

>>7082216
Retards are everywhere doing retarded things all the time. How do you explain that, faggot?

[Anonymous No.7082224]

>>7082219
Thanks for your concession.

[Anonymous No.7082225]

>>7079935
This is actually pretty funny because you can say the same about everyone in this thread. You can go on about creativity and about how you just draw for fun. But deep down everyone WANTS to be popular and have something like a successful patreon.

[Anonymous No.7082237]

>>7080609
When will people understand that niggas just do not care of its AI when it comes to porn. If it looks good enough to the point where you need to look CLOSE to see flaws it's fine. People are gonna be looking at the tits and ass anyways

[Anonymous No.7082241]

>>7082224
Concession to what? The fact that you and most of the population are legitmately retarded parasites that coom their lives away to avoid facing the reality that they're loveless, addicted to porn, and alone?

[Anonymous No.7082242]

>>7082124
>>7082087
T B H considering a lot them basically are koolaid drinking folks I hope they like pissing in people's cereal because honestly it gives more people an excuse to be socio/psychopathic without any fucks given.
and honestly I don't think they realize a fraction the amount of shit they unironically promote but o-well what can you do
>pic not necessarily related

[Anonymous No.7082243]

>>7082241
Coomers never change. They'll do anything to justify their addiction and avoid growing as people.

[Anonymous No.7082252]

>>7082237
OOOOOOOOO TITS AND ASS ON A SCREEN
OOOOOOOOOO IT'S ART
I FEEL SO FULFILLED
MY DEEPEST HUMAN NEEDS ARE MET

[Anonymous No.7082255]

>>7082241
...The point was that the majority of coomers aren't using AI to make money, and they're the largest user of it. It has very little to do with money and fame in general, the AI corporations care about that far more than the users.

Assuming that every single user of it is a grifter out to make money is just silly. Even if they are retarded coomers.

[Anonymous No.7082260]

>>7082255
Yes, because in truth, most people using it are just retarded coomers who love to coom. What's your point, you cum stained waste of your father's seed?

[Anonymous No.7082263]

>>7081449
No, this is incorrect. This is AI bro's cope about the law. No one can copyright an AI image because it was deemed by the US copyright office that the AI is the creator not the prompter. It's why you can't make a comic with AI and copyright the images.

[Anonymous No.7082266]

>>7082260
The point is that the post I responded to said some stupid shit that was obviously false you fucking mongoloid and I addressed why it's bullshit. Don't lose your brain because you want to use wide generalizations.

>>7081463
Retard.

[Anonymous No.7082268]

Just draw.

https://twitter.com/AkumaAI_EN/status/1763450658190180477

[Anonymous No.7082269]

>>7081286
Well now I'm even more blackpilled. Anime is going to get fucked over entirely.

[Anonymous No.7082272]

>>7082266
Blah blah blah blah blah blah
You will die alone and unwanted. Go cum to another cartoon character to unwind.

[Anonymous No.7082385]

>>7080169
Only subhumans think like you do. Your kind need to be wiped out so intelligent people only can live on.

[Anonymous No.7082389]

>>7082385
Nobody cares how the sausage was made.

All that matters is that it gives them a boner so they can forget their shitty lives. Only autistic subhuman artists care about how things are made, and that's why you're fated to go extinct. Literally too autistic and obsessed with muh precious "process" to survive.

[Anonymous No.7082396]

>>7082389
Artists do not go extinct. Even if AI replaces all commercial art, I am still compelled to create spiritually and I will continue to do so regardless.

Also, I am not the dude u were originally talking to just a passerby

[Anonymous No.7082401]

>>7082389
Why are you encouraging the escapist subhumans to continue to be degenerate with that kind of attitude

[Anonymous No.7082403]

>>7082396
Then go ahead and create "spiritually." No one will care or mourn your passing.

[Anonymous No.7082405]

>>7082389
if you told people that their sausages was made by jeets with fecal covered hands would they still consume it? I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.7082412]

>>7082405
People already eat dead animals and genetic engineered crops.
You are a dying breed. It's about time you self righteous, selfish luddites were wiped out of the gene pool.
What the world wants it will get. And the world doesn't want you. It wants AI. Adapt or die.

[Anonymous No.7082415]

>>7082412
Why does it bother you so much if people use AI or not? Just seems like you get off on your pathetic doomposting on /ic/

[Anonymous No.7082416]

>>7082263
>It's why you can't make a comic with AI and copyright the images.
The comic still has copyright and that's really what matters in the end. Individual panels have very little monetary value. What has value is the comic as a whole.

[Anonymous No.7082419]

>>7082415
Why does it bother you what I do? I'll do whatever I want for whatever reason I please, faggot. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.7082423]

>>7082419
Because you're on a non-AI board trying to shill AI with your pathetic posting. Probably just another failed artist looking to get revenge, the tripfag really set the perfect stereotype for you fags lmao.

[Anonymous No.7082442]

>>7082389
>Food analogy
Coom is not art confirmed, it's slop.

[Anonymous No.7082472]

>>7079186
Easy with the copium.
I know you don't like the idea, but all artists will soon be replaced.
Focus on some other skill and forget about making money as an artist. Just keep drawing as a hobby if you really have to.

>Popularity of AI art don't actually mean it will be bringing money.
No shit, Sherlock. The whole point of AI-generated art is to bring down costs. Nobody is gonna get paid more than a few peanuts to generate some half-decent art that corporations can use in their promotions. The book-cover industry has already been destroyed by AI. No human artist will ever get paid again for drawing the cover of a novel, except maybe for very famous authors. All the marginal producers of low-brow art are already losing their jobs. As AI gets better, things will only get worse for human artists.

[Anonymous No.7082474]

>>7081101
>given that this shit is always used for porn
Aren't most models censored nowadays?
The filters keep getting worse.

[Anonymous No.7082475]

>>7080775
AI seems able to draw almost anything, be it porn or otherwise.
AI will be used for more than just porn and you know it.
No point in keeping clinging to the idea that your art has "soul" while AI art doesn't.

[Anonymous No.7082476]

>>7082405
Of course they would still consume it. What kind of racist would refuse to?

[Anonymous No.7082489]

>>7082123
>"During one of my venture"
Typo. I meant ventures.

>"Nothing to sniff at."
This is a classic phrase that's older than me. I don't know where it came from, but it's common enough that you should be familiar with the phrase.

If you weren't an ESL, you would have figured as much out.

[Anonymous No.7082494]

>>7082475
I wonder did you post this shit cause honestly I like the fact that honestly AIniggas are so adverse to fuckin doing nothing but shilling they need to make AI beg shit just to seem like they're one uping people.
can't even take the time to attempt doing even practically toddler level work. I didn't know even preschoolers and kindergartners are somehow more capable of em.
what advance levels of retardation does the common AIfag even suffer from that even this masterpiece becomes to far out of reach for em

[Anonymous No.7082520]

>>7082494
The point is that AI can do every type of art and there is no need for humans to lift up a pencil ever again.
Just like you no longer see many medieval artisan guilds around nowadays because everything is made in factories with a combination of automation and subhuman bugmen in Asia.
You can keep drawing as your cute little hobby but you won't be able to compete with AI in the art industry. Just like you can keep horses and maybe make a little money by letting rich girls ride them but you won't compete with Ford or Volkswagen when it comes to sales.

[Anonymous No.7082524]

>>7082520
Why are you so aggressive even towards people who do it for a hobby lmao

[Anonymous No.7082525]

>>7082520
The amount of cope from someone seething of jealousy about people who draw is what makes this all so much funnier

[Anonymous No.7082535]

If you concede that photographers can be artists, then you must also concede that AI users can also be artist.

[Anonymous No.7082539]

>>7082535
>NTA
>but separate boards
it's almost like it needs to be categorized and judged differently

[Anonymous No.7082541]

>>7082535
I hate how this term "artist" has the double meaning of anything creative in general whenever it suits AIfags when we're specifically on a board about people drawing and getting better as artists.

[Anonymous No.7082542]

>>7082541
Nowhere in the board rules is it stated that the art has to be drawn or painted.

[Anonymous No.7082543]

>>7082542
You act like the sticky, the culture, and the people here aren't invested in drawing for some reason. There's plenty of other boards like /g that encompass AI better, but the fact that retards linger here to shill their AI shit for validation among drawfags is the most pathetic shit ive ever seen.

[Anonymous No.7082546]

I thought it was a joke, but they are really hiring AI artists now.
>>7081380

[Anonymous No.7082548]

>>7082546
Yeah but it's just the usual artist with the skills beforehand + AI knowledge on top. It's not like the ones that gave up drawing cause it was too hard and all inned on AI can ever compete unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.7082549]

>>7082535
>wanting to be considered and called an artist so badly you go insane lengths just for validation
>wanting to be called an artist in 2024
>a term so raped by retards and normies and given a bad rep by insane people who happen to be overly active in the artistic fields it has only negative connetations
>now aitrannies want to molest the term even further like they do with kids on discord
80% of this straight up insanity wouldn't happen if kids weren't allowed on the internet and porn got banned on any site where minors are allowed.

[Anonymous No.7082552]

>>7082216
>How do you explain all the boards with AI image threads reaching cap every single time they're up, then
by the fact that they are generals?

[Anonymous No.7082554]

>>7082389
>Nobody cares how the sausage was made.
? nigga do not know what you're eating

[Anonymous No.7082557]

>>7082554
do you know what a cashew tree looks like?

[Anonymous No.7082563]

>>7082216
It's just spam.
You go in any general on the other boards and there are less than a handful or just one or two spammers who incessantly fill the threads with porn, lewds or generally extremely low quality posts.
>but they just want to jack off
Porn sites exist.
What's the point of filling up a general where people want to talk about their hobbys with nothing but lewd images, every single time a new one gets made and without fail and always with the same images and posts? The only reasonable explanation is that they're either mentally ill or just want to derail the threads and discussions from taking place.
This might be coming from unironical plebbit and troonblr sjws who still want to take revenge on the raycist 4chin.
If the real truth is
>it's just coomers being mentally deficient
Then that's even more pathetic and coomers really should be cut off from interacting with other people in any way.

Bro, i just want to talk about my hobbys, not jack off and if i want to I go on porn sites or check my 100 terrabyte porn stash and not spam generals like some bot.

[Anonymous No.7082564]

>>7082557
you're eating trash, retard
not only do you start off with a fucking food analogy, but a food analogy that's materially wrong
fuck off

[Anonymous No.7082568]

>old retarded man with slomo speech and concept art god cry about AI
>hundreds of videos called "AI vs Artists"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc-RX2AGGNA


and this guy at min 25, omg i can't even
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ59g4PV1AE
>"while fast food is affecting your physical condition, AI art is affecting your mind and how your perceive things that you see. looking at generated images IS NUMBING YOUR SENSES AND DISTORTING YOUR PERCEPTION OF REALITY

jesus christ almighty, you guys are literally the people who said women should not ride trains in the 18hundreds because it "accelerates their bodies too fast and makes them hysteric"
how fucking hard can you try to shittalk about AI and come up with hyperbolic statesments on made up "dangers"?

honestly all those concept artists now crying their eyes out are the basedboys of 2024
you have paid thousands of dollars for online courses. sucking up to Proko and all the others, took marathons of masturbating, drawing and dehydrating in front of your tablets until late in the nights to get gewd and now you see that your "skills" (an army of copycats as it is) are of no interest to corpos, because they can no storyboard ads with ai within seconds.

90% of you willl lose your job for a good reason.

[Anonymous No.7082571]

>>7082568
>DISTORTING YOUR PERCEPTION OF REALITY
Interesting statement, as if AI images somehow exist outside material reality.

[Anonymous No.7082572]

>go on other boards
>want to talk about topic and further my understand of the hobby
>threads are always and mostly just coom spam with no discussion going on
>if there is any talk going on it's just insults akin to twitter spam like "do you like butter toast? that means you must hate minorities!! hehe is that a food analogy omg fucking gotttem haha epic troll are you mad and seething and coping yet"
Why no matter where you go on the internet, you cannot talk about anything anymore?
You try irl and people just tune out or get hysteric out of nowhere.
You try to talk about hobbys on the internet and there will always be canned replies and attempts to epic troll everyone and if they get one reply acknowledging their existence, even to tell them to stfu, then that's somehow a successful troll.

Honestly, i blame the current cancerous state of art being nothing but porn or some variations of it.
It attracted way too many low IQ and highly emotionally unstable people everywhere where their presence alone makes it impossible to talk about anything in a civil or educated manner.

Look at pic related and how it instantly turned into
>omg they ayylmao is drained because SEX omg soooooo funny lol cum sex penis lol
What is this, some kind of government psyop? god fucking dammit just let me talk about my hobbys in peace

[Anonymous No.7082578]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ59g4PV1AE
>looking at generated images IS NUMBING YOUR SENSES AND DISTORTING YOUR PERCEPTION OF REALITY
this guys pillow is soaked in basedtears every night

[Anonymous No.7082584]

>>7082578
>consuming shitty content numbs your senses and distorts how you perceive reality
>haha must be seething and crying
He has a point tho
If you ate nothing but shit your whole life and you suddenly got real food, you would also find it distasteful because it doesn't have chemicals in it that artificially enhance the flavors.
>Inb4 haha lol lmao food analogy cope seethe
Do you not eat food? It's to make you understand easily and if you do not, guess it's obvious you're being a faggot on purpose or not even human.

[Anonymous No.7082588]

>>7082475
It can't and doesn't.
The images it makes are amalgamations of images that it was trained on. It needs unbelievably large amounts of data to even have a usable amount of interpolations within its latent space to create "unique" output. Borrowed fire.

[Anonymous No.7082590]

>>7082584
guy literally says in the video that even only one out of 20 concept artists can tell the difference now by March 2024. AI art is now indistinguishable.

like another anon said, most concept art is purely derivative as it is. a constant repetition of established methods. hardly anything of merrit found in the portfolio of concept artists other than "nice tiddies and shiny armor" drawing skills. there is literally no loss to society if this particular brand of the creative industry is dying out. most /ic/ fags want to get gewd at drawing porn commissions, going into the ad business with storyboard sketching, very few have a chance to be concept artists for games and most of them remain lowtier forever.
we won't have a funeral for you folks, because no one is attending. shut the door on your way out. thanks a bunch!

[Anonymous No.7082595]

>>7082590
>snarky passive aggressive reply
wow anon im so mad (for real) and so seething wow you got me anon such epic and high iq troll omg im so seething and coping omg anon what a troll guess i will have to kms (kill my self) now
you got me good that i even replied with more than one word


For real, what even is your point besides shitposting like a brain dead tranny?
Of course you can't tell the difference if the images are copypasted using the copypaste machine.
The fuck are you on about?

[Anonymous No.7082604]

>>7082588
It can extrapolate though.

[Anonymous No.7082608]

>>7082571
>as if AI images somehow exist outside material reality.
totally representative of material reality bro

[Anonymous No.7082611]

>>7082588
since concept artists are doing nothing but repeating the same shit in the past 30 years or so, we actually can put a cap on it and harvest what's already there, economically speaking

who needs another generation of digifags who learn to draw thicc bitches and feet, or dragons in front of dramatic cloud formations with tiny soldiers in war stances in the foreground, or anime artists, indistinguishable from one another as it is, drawing dripping pussies and assholes with fisheye lense effect all their lives? this pathetic shitshow can end for all i care. basement dwelling porn artists like most of you /ic/ fags are worthless. so AI takes your jobs? GOOD

[Anonymous No.7082637]

>>7082608
In fact it is, a product of its time if you will.

[sage No.7082643]

>>7082611
2/10 Really you are trying too hard. 90% of this board does it as a hobby, not even a job. If you were really interested in AI art you would be discussing it on /g/ instead of making troll posts here trying to goad people into responding. Imagine some retard trying to taunt chess players for being worse than the computer. That's you right now. It's a completely useless activity that makes you infinitely more insecure and pathetic than even the most beginner of beginners. I don't know what made you like this but you are a sad, sad specimen

[Anonymous No.7082649]

>>7082643
>ad hominem
got anything else? tell me how original and irreplacable concept art is

[Anonymous No.7082651]

>>7082608
>WTFFFFF NOT THE NON-WHITES!!!!!!! OH MY HOLY FATHER!! AAAIIIIEEE PLS DONT FORSAKE YOUR CHILDREN! WHY DOES THIS IMAGE GENERATION TOOL NOT DO MY HISTORY HOMEWORK?

Half the people who have posted in this thread NEED to kill themselves. Is /ic/ truly the worst subreddit on this site?
>>7082571
AI generated media is the ultimate slop and will make your brain go mush. That simple.

[sage No.7082655]

>>7082649
No, I am not even trying to argue. I simply insulted you. It's the only thing you deserve.

[Anonymous No.7082660]

>>7082649
>buzzword therefore i win
Anon here has a point
You're really trying way too fucking hard it's boring to even witness.
Are you that desperate for attention and (you)s?
Do you really waste your life trying to troll and provoke random people never to genuinely talk about anything?
Yes, we get it, you're so cool and detached and showing genuine interest in anything is cringe af so your only personality trait is trying to get people to reply to you by giving in into your bait.
Wow you're so smart and witty and so original, Anon, it's not like everyone else does the same exact shit you do that you could be very well be a carbon copy of the average twatter basketball american spamming buzzwords in an attempt to """ratio"""" other people by putting in the least mental effort as possible because you saw some other blue checkmar get mad bussin like and retweets by pwning btfoing some other fried chicken personality with a lot of imaginary numbers.

Oh man, how can we ever recover from getting insulted
Oh no, AI is going to do thing and make people seethe because you said it would oh no
What are we going to do now? oh no man i fear that now more witty and original people will start saying these things because it will make me seethe and cope and have a meltdown oh no its literally over artsisters we should just give money to streetshitters because we just have to

fellow artbrother we won't survive if we dont let the AI in
Just let that sink in and wash your hands

pic related is how angry i am
look i am even crying and holding a gun
fuck you got us good mate
good shit
good troll
you epically won the internet today

[Anonymous No.7082661]

>>7082269
It worse.
Did you see Clip Studio backdown from not using AI?
They would get sued for discrimination against AI, their users may got arrested for hate speech. The same for other nips software companies. SAI got away because they refused to updood since the begining but Kishida is trying to attack them too.

[Anonymous No.7082662]

ARTBROS ITS OVER MAN
STOP DRAWING AND USE AI PLS

GOD PLS LOOK HOW WITTY THE AI ARTISTS ARE
GOD HOW DO YOU NOT REPLY WITHOUT SOUNDING MAD AND SEETHING?
ZAMN FR THEY BE GOT US GOOD BROS MAD BUSSIN STRAIT UP SEETHING AND COPING HERE

ZAMN FR FR WE ARE JUST DONE FR

[Anonymous No.7082663]

BRO WHEN I GET TOLD THAT AI WILL REPLACE ME I SHAKE WITH UNCONTROLLABLE ANGER FR

BRO HOW DO I STOP SEETHING MAN?
THESE ABSED AI BROS ARE FUCKING GETTING ME EVERY TIME THEY INSULT ME BRO HOW DO I STOP REPLYING BRO LIKE FR I CANT STOP SEETHING
I MEAN
FUCK

THEY GOT US GOOD ARTSISTERS
WE SHOULD JUST GIVE UP AND USE AI BECAUSE THEY TELL US TO
MAN
THIS ISNT BUSSIN AT ALL FR
BRO I AM LITERALLY CRYING BECAUSE THEY KEEP SAYING HOW ITS OVER BROS ITS OVER NO WAY I WILL EVER DRAW AGAIN BECAUSE THEIR ARGUMENTS ARE INFALLIBLE AND THEY ARE SOOOOOOO ZAMN SMART FR AND WITTY TOO

HOW CAN WE EVER RECOVER FROM GETTING BTFO SO HARD? OMG I AM LITERALLY COPING AND SEETHING
LOOK I EVEN CAPSLOCK SO YOU JUST KNOW I AM SEETHING
AND MORE WORDS MEANS IM COPING AND HAVING A MELTDOWN
WOW THEY GOT ME BAD BROS

[Anonymous No.7082665]

>>7082651
>WTFFFFF NOT THE NON-WHITES!!!!!!!
I don't have a problem with non-whites, retard. The problem is with woketarded bullshit. It's not like the prompt was for MFDOOM or Beyonce.
I bet you're the market for those woketard Netflix shows that depict black royalty in 18th century Russia. Welcome to the future of AI 'entertainment.'

[Anonymous No.7082692]

>>7082660
>>7082662
>>7082663
>>7082655
larping being mad is the same as being mad
stay mad fellas
your years of practicing firm, round anime tiddies in digital media were a wasted effort.

>cope seethe cope seethe cope _seethe cope seethe cope - seethe cope seethe cope seethe cope seethe cope seethe 'cope seethe' cope seethe 'cope seethe

[Anonymous No.7082698]

>>7082568
as usual, conjure yourself the ideal imaginary counterpart and win every argument by painting the opposite side in the broadest, most convenient strokes possible.
It's pathetic, try for once coming to "discussions" with less the need to stroke your ego next time.

[Anonymous No.7082713]

>>7082698
it's no surprise that all of /ic/ is shocked and afraid of AI programmers, training models with genuine artists materials that is found online. The big outcry is flattening out though, there are motions to regulate AI crawling the web without giving credit or paying artists.
in reality, most of the business models found in digital areas are exploitative. look closely at any "startup" and you will find that they merely want to draw in a shitload of users in a short amount of time, scavenge private data off of them and ultimately sell their app or shares with the millions of accounts and their sensitive data (essentially, the dependecy they created) to big tech.

the facial recognition company that i'm not going to name did the same thing: they saw that there are billions of facepics available online and used it as a resource to train their algo on it. only very late in the game when the damage was already done and they were getting sued did the public find out that they used biometric data (faces) to create a database that can potentially be sold to gov and executive forces, all to the damage of mostly innocent people.

AI is here to stay and you aren't going to erase it or lock it up indefinitely by forcing a few lawsuits. It's like trying to remove the famous hurrdurr Beyonce stance from the internet.
either you read up on and get good in FOSS AI, if even to learn what the "weapons of the enemy" are capable of doing, maybe even find a way to host your own intance locally (offline for good measure) and train a model on your own artworks to extend your process, or you rightfully toss it and say, it's not for me.
you don't HAVE to use it, but resenting it, crying and going all "It's pointless now, why did I even try?" is weak as fuck.

obviously the people that call themselves "AI artists" who have never even managed to draw anything beyond stickfigures are cancerous. but there's no shame in using it if you are already an artist.

[Anonymous No.7082721]

>>7082649
That's not an ad hominem you retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.7082730]

AItrannies sweatin'
You love to see it :)

[Anonymous No.7082752]

>>7082713
I don't know why you wrote that to me specifically.
People in general should be far more aware what posting things on the internet, and social medias in particular, with TOS that are never read, implies for their data.
In the end it's all very simple I think, there are laws we're compelled to follow, and the market, made by the relationship between market and seller which defines the value of something, be it a car or a banana taped to a wall.
If the market will deem (drawing)artists not valuable, we will not be valuable anymore.
I don't care to convince anybody of anything, define who can call themselves an artist, if it is shameful or not to use AIs, it is not my business and I don't want it to be.
I agree though that AIs are not going away, the market for current artists is just going to get worse and worse, with the real only avenue for monetization(living by the trade), is going to be creating a fandom and focusing on parasocial relationships, the skill of drawing by itself, even though it already has very little monetary value, will be reduced to almost zero in the coming years.

[Anonymous No.7082757]

>>7082752
yeah that was more on the general discussion here
i agree, it's important to develope social skills. afterall, people want and prefer to work with people

[Anonymous No.7082762]

This debate is increasingly fake & gay. If you can draw you'll always have the edge over a proompter (a 'skill' that can be learned in an afternoon).
>inb4 b-but it's gonna take jobs
Most of those jobs are shit, low-level illustration & commission jobs. And I can just imagine some of my past clients using AI, lol. After fucking around with it for 5 minutes they'll still call me up to fix it, slap multiple logos on it and get their favorite shade of periwinkle blue in there somewhere for good luck.

[Anonymous No.7082766]

>>7082572
>>7082578
>>7082590
>>7082611
>>7082649
>>7082692
God you're such a tremendous faggot. Like holy fuck you know nothing about concept art.

This is the problem with you AI bros, you don't know anything. Concept art isn't derivative. And you're lamenting that people are drawing sexy stuff as if it's fucking new at all. People have always drawn sexy stuff.

You're just asserting this false reality of what people are actually drawing in order to pretend AI destroying human art is a good thing. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.7082769]

>>7080169
Actually, I do enjoy the processes behind how movies are made. Especially props and costumes. Your bollywood dreck doesn't compare, turdworlder.

[Anonymous No.7082770]

>>7082568
You're incredibly bitter. Concept art is incredibly difficult and you're faggot ass is a spiteful little shit. And I'm not a concept artist at all but even I know the work that goes into it. You're falsely casting it off as low effort making these shitty appeals and comparisons to history.

AI and it's dangers are not only observable reality but obviously predicted.

You spam these threads shilling alAI desperate for validation.

AI is awful, and real artists won't use it, only talentless greedy losers like you.

[Anonymous No.7082773]

>>7082416
Only the text could be copyrighted.

And this is cope. Anyone could take the images in the comic and use them for whatever purpose they wanted. Rearrange them a bit with new text and make a new comic. It does matter.

[Anonymous No.7082786]

>>7082770
The death of concept art will be the death of transportation and auto mobiles industries - This will lead to the death of food industry.
Oil companies will profit from expensive transportation.
Jews will pro fit from monolize food idustry
Weapons companies will profit from goys killing each other.
All Jews btw.

[Anonymous No.7082789]

>>7082692
>uuuuuuuuhm ACTUALLY IF YOU PRETEND TO BE MAD.... GUESS WHAT..... YOURE MAD! COPE SEETHE COPE SEETHE LARP BUZZWORD!!!! ARE YOU MAD YET?!?!! EPIC TROLL!!!
ah shit mang you do be hittin hard fr like bro i am mad and very personally affected
wow you're so intelligent bro
(you) truly bested me
keep up the epic troll

can i be your friend btw? pls let me be your friend and subscribe to your youtubetwittertwitch channel and donate to your patreon
please bro how do i become epic ai troll such as you
(btw yes i am like soooo seething and coping right now you truly triggered me fr)

[Anonymous No.7082798]

>>7082789
oym havin a good laugh my dude, i hope you do too. i edged up my opinion just for your boner, but i do mean what i say. i look down on concept art, there, i said it. i hate advertisement and most of you concept artists will readily produce the most cancerous images that come out of this shit scattering brainwashing machine called the ad industry. i find you lot incredibly boring and fragile. now if you abandon all hope and become a free artist, accepting poverty in favor of doing what you truly believe in, that's something else. you guys are always playing into someones expectations, cutting corners and making compromises.
there are real artists like jeff simpson, but they are few

[Anonymous No.7082803]

>>7082789
I love your responses, I think we'd actually make good friends irl

[Anonymous No.7082812]

>>7082798
>>7082803
Yes, Anons, you totally got the right guy
btw im a concept pornographer
Do you hate me and still want to be friends with me irl?

I'm also incredibly racist but i won't show it

[Anonymous No.7082829]

> prompt AI art
> It takes a minute to get something decent
> Post on social media
> Get mocked by it
> Spend the next 72 hours defending it online

VS

> Make art yourself
> It takes six hours of honest effort
> Get praised

Which one is more efficient again?

[Anonymous No.7082831]

>>7082829
If I wanted to get praised I'd call my mom.

[Anonymous No.7082839]

>>7082773
>Only the text could be copyrighted.
No. The entire comic gets a copyright. Same goes for movies, video games, etc. You may be able to take a single image from such a work, print it on a t-shirt and sell those. But people have been doing that for decades already, and the copyright holders just ignore it because it's not worth the effort to try to challenge it.

[Anonymous No.7082843]

>>7082829
sure but if i say that everyone that is mocking me is just jealous, then i'm actually getting praised and people are just mad

I am very smart btw

[Anonymous No.7082886]

>>7082637
>a product of its time if you will
Forced 'social justice' woke-ism in art? More like Tumblr over a decade ago. In fact a lot of AI seems zombie-like in regurgitating played out digital art/cultural trends.

[Anonymous No.7082929]

Youtubers are the only one using it, for the thumbnails... they think they're being slick but the art looks like gutter trash.

[Anonymous No.7083031]

>>7082886
But it's happening right now, history repeats itself.

[Anonymous No.7083046]

>>7082929
The worst is when you look at a thumbnail and it's obvious that no actual picture was taken at any stage, and yet you have commenters posting shit like it's real and that the photo is "so amazing and wonderful."

[Anonymous No.7083078]

>>7082520
>the art industry
there you go
not a hint of self-awareness in your inane drivel, thoughbeit

[Anonymous No.7083099]

>>7082520
>sells horse for tens of millions of dollars in you're path

[Anonymous No.7083133]

Why is there so many AI trannies on /ic/?
Whenever there's a thread about AI you can see them flooding space like houseflies on a fresh piece of shit trying to shill their thing here. I thought you are winning and nobody cares about real art anymore. Why are all of you permanently here? Isn't AI a strictly /g/ thing? I thought you have a thread for AI there. And also on /v/ and also on /tv/. Why do you aggressively invade every space you possibly can? It's like you demand attention. Don't you have enough of it because of how good AI is?

[Anonymous No.7083143]

>>7083133
Art has become democratized.

[Anonymous No.7083146]

>>7083143
How is shilling something with the same paragraphs of mantras is "has been democratized"?

[Anonymous No.7083162]

>>7083146
Just as the majority of people are dumber than you would think, the idea of generating images from a pool of trained data makes them think they deserve the same recognition as the ones who worked for it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.7083167]

>>7083133
>Why is there so many AI trannies on /ic/?
4chan is flooded with AI trannies and GPT bots.
Thats what happens when the site became a shithole without mods.
There is an AI bot spam thread on every major board. /g/ is permanently fucked, /h/ is infested with non-stop garbage.
I think the only board without one is /a/ and only because that board has mods with on-topic trigger finger autism (though /a/ has a lot of other problems besides AI shills shitting the catalog).

[Anonymous No.7083168]

>>7083133
they're psychopaths looking for an outlet

[Anonymous No.7083171]

>>7083143
ah yes, the method of expression where all you need is a rough surface and a stick of coal needed democratizing
democratizing where you need to buy a gpu with massive amounts of memory and the pc to put it into or pay rent to a multibillion company so you could run a novel photobashing algo

[Anonymous No.7083306]

[Anonymous No.7083308]

>>7083168
Worked in IT and I draw on the side as a hobby. Not against AI art as long as the training data used is not scraped against the artist's consent. I can almost guarantee this guy has never meaningfully contributed to the opensource AI branches or change anything codewise and I look forward to the day he gets replaced by the next engine which can write it's own code based off large data sets of ACTUAL software engineers.

Artists don't claim him, programmers don't either

[Anonymous No.7083319]

>>7083168
He probably took two college courses before dropping out and becoming NEET. His “work” is building his gaming rig. People who actually succeed in software dev have houses and families and are too busy working 80 hours a week to argue on Reddit.

[Anonymous No.7083344]

>>7083306

[Anonymous No.7083370]

>>7082475
Stop posting this shitpost, all of those posters are larppers.

[Anonymous No.7083389]

>>7079186
Ai's already dead, it's 2024 fellas time to move on.

[Anonymous No.7083480]

India reverses AI stance, requires government approval for model launches : https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/03/india-reverses-ai-stance-requires-government-approval-for-model-launches/

The crackdown begins.

[Anonymous No.7083507]

I actually watched the youtube video. It wasn't that good, the guy spent too much time trying to "own" aifags by saying they suck or they can't draw, and his points mainly seemed to be about how much better of a person he is as an artist instead of the mental traps AI art puts its users in. He talks about art like its some mystical thing most people cannot understand as well. I never watched art videos on youtube but this just seemed clickbaity and designed for retards. Like he thinks he has a super power for learning how to do basic construction, and keeps saying that its impossible for aifags to learn it too so they should just stop using ai and kill themselves.

I would prefer to encourage people to create art instead of telling them they suck with or without AI.

[Anonymous No.7083524]

>>7082535
Yes, AI proompting is art, and they are artists, but they're not drawing. And they are in their own separate category unrelated to drawing.

[Anonymous No.7083589]

>>7083507
>they should just stop using ai and kill themselves.
Not a bad idea

[Anonymous No.7083624]

>>7083507
>>7083589
I'd prefer if they were executed by firing squad, but killing themselves works too I guess.

[Anonymous No.7083631]

>>7083507
He does bring up the point that AI art will likely fall to the wayside as AI Video comes along, and I find myself agreeing with him. Obviously it'll continue to be used by the industry, but I think as a popular talking point and something that's shoved in our faces and over-saturating the market, AI images are done.

I also think he's main point was less to talk people into giving up AI art, or actually making any particular strong argument, but more so a video to encourage people and stop the doom and gloom.
But otherwise, I generally agree with you.

[Anonymous No.7083666]

>>7083524
Prompting is not art and people who do it are not artists.

[Anonymous No.7083680]

>>7083631
>Obviously it'll continue to be used by the industry
>AI images are done
Sorry, but this is mutually exclusive. Unless capitalism is finally dismantled on the side and this "industry" you speak of works very different than the industries of today.
GenAI is in fact all doom and gloom. It steals from everyone, circulates misinformation, widens the wealth gap, decreases the quality of everything... "Faster, bigger, more" is not always better. For instance when it concerns communication, relationships, thoughts and feelings?
GenAI has to be regulated if we don't want very bad things to happen. Simply enforcing to label all generated content would already do wonders. Stop the denial and stop the defeatism.

[Anonymous No.7083734]

>>7083168
>their bad attitude
>building my up-to-date technological skills
I can smell the shit on the street

[Anonymous No.7083823]

[Anonymous No.7083829]

>>7083507
>they should just stop using ai and kill themselves.
no clue what you're talking about, but yes

[Anonymous No.7083932]

>>7081292
More like "devolve or die" because it is a devolution of creative expression. You promtnerds are not artists. Not even close.
I would rather be a starving artist than a sellout promtshitter. No real artist in their right mind will trade their craft for something so absent of human creativity.
You're basically writing code words "big Bob woman ultra realistic lighting ue5 look at me mom the artist now" into an algorithm and trying to convince yourself and others that it's comparable to what a master painter does. You want the title and the acklaim yet you don't want to work for it.
Bunch of lazy, entitled, snotty nerds.
We don't want to devolve into a promtshitter like you. We're creative people. We're not robotevangelist corporateautismodefender nerds like you.
Beep-bop.

[Anonymous No.7083948]

>>7083932
>still in refusal
take the AI pill, salty digitpainting Bóbr ;)
It's no use. You will also end up attending the mandatory "your perfect AI prompt 101" led by a blue-haired startup CEO teenager fr fr. you will address them as "they/them" as you should and you won't say a word when they say "So for all you boomers and I see quite a few of you here today, this is a PROMPT. it's where you WRITE the idea and the art style of what you want to be generated. but it's not working like your GOOGLE search from early 00, so I will guide you through how you get he best syntax and make the picture look like it's done by Ruan Jia, ok? If there are any questions or it's going a bit too fast for you, write me a DM on my tiktok, mkay?"

you will promt ze pictures
you won't need ze dusty Loomis and Proko any more
and you vill be happy

[Anonymous No.7084033]

>>7083948
>NTA
but I rather go to /pol/ for my prompts and know for sure people are in fact doing stupid or evil things.At what point you think some want to be happy. Having people be content is not profitable anon, and really I don't know why you want everyone to be friendly like a retard when going on "questionable sites" or making questionable content to show people.
>I wonder how many teens go literally me more, pic related
>CEO teenager
>hhhmmmmmm...
How do like content farms or some of those kids YouTube toy videos, or some of the ones who role model are the Paul brothers/etc influencers

and have music as well for contemplation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED2QWl-PGBQ

really though anon unless you want to show something totally fucked, other than
of course
>look AI
It just not gonna do anything for me. Though us though if you want to post that shit somewhere else like Twatter, Reddit or etc as sceenshots for the umpteenth time

[Anonymous No.7084039]

the artist does not fear his tools. he works around its limitations.

[Anonymous No.7084047]

>>7084033
I've read it two times and I can't make sense of any of that.

nice maxresdefault.jpg though!

[Anonymous No.7084053]

[Anonymous No.7084061]

>>7084053
you vill generate pineapple pics
you vill improov ze promps evry time and drink nice cops of Kaffee weil you wait
and you vill be happy

[Anonymous No.7084068]

>>7084047
I wonder than if you need chatGPT for everything than, but than again this is expected when attempting to talk with some ESL's.
I could only assume it's good if that does censors stuff others write.
Prob might accidentally have you learning dangerous knowledge for someone of your reading comprehension.
>or caste level if your a curry
honesty might throw in made-up words or more non sequiturs if you really have that much trouble with them

[Anonymous No.7084100]

>>7084068
ESL myself and your posts make me think I'm having a stroke while reading

use libretranslate com
it's free and works really well

[Anonymous No.7084168]

>>7083133
Internet tough guys getting themselves off

[Anonymous No.7084184]

https://twitter.com/BNA_V5/status/1764244113833275764?t=ijLsO5TCQoML7ulRuppJwg
AIsisters... not like this...

[Anonymous No.7084190]

>>7084184
Ohnononono promptCHADS we were supposed to replace artoids and make x10 more art than them at the same cost, not increase our rates x10 too....we got too cocky AIsissies

[Anonymous No.7084211]

>>7084184
prompting is still the art of the future, it's baby's first steps, so don't get all exited about one single setback.

ze future looks great. instead of hearing the plastic tips of the pens scratching the 2K wacom tablets, we will hear the sweet bashing of keyboards, as the /promptfags/ type up their "infinite number of monkeys writing shakespear" prompts to generate every image imaginable on this precious earth.
ve vill see gazillions of fat tiddy ai girls and masturbate to the most clean, high contrast ai images any zoomer boomer coomer has ever right-click-downloaded into their 2TB porn harddrive.

the word "artist" will be associated naturally with what we now naively differentiate as "promptartists", much as "to google" means searching the web. it iz only ze matter of time until zis will be zo.

promptfags will walk around answering exclusively in prompt syntax:
>"haha, you're such a comedian, Jeff! man laughing heartily, holding his stomache and saying 'the goose is loose', photoralism, studio light, DSLR, no duplicate limbs! you should really go into standup comedy, 25 steps heavy denoising!"

ze future is promptfagging
swap your wacom for an RGB keyboard, cause your fingers will be .... tipinnnnn'
>*mic drop*

[Anonymous No.7084224]

>>7084100
>ESL myself

[Anonymous No.7084233]

>>7083680
>Simply enforcing to label all generated content would already do wonders.
Exactly. Mandatory watermarking. China already did this. The biggest issue with gAI is that its inherently fradulent. The shit that's obviously ai slop is less offensive than the stuff that tries to get passed off as human-made.

[Anonymous No.7084364]

>>7084233
>Mandatory watermarking.
Communist party is mandating watermarking?

[Anonymous No.7084391]

>>7081245
the jews have only been doing it for 80 years

[Anonymous No.7084417]

[Anonymous No.7084458]

>>7084364

[Anonymous No.7084462]

>>7084417
.

[Anonymous No.7084543]

What if I want to draw the base of the image but let AI finish it?

[Anonymous No.7084554]

>>7084543
What model?

[Anonymous No.7084567]

>>7084543
>>7084554
into the trash both of you go with every bit of other forgettable people-detritus AI has revealed to us. Its nice you guys made it so easy.

[Anonymous No.7084576]

>>7082839
>No. The entire comic gets a copyright.

This isn't true though. None of the art used was protected under copyright. Like I said, what get's protection is the text and the "unique arrangement" of the images. But I could take every single page from that comic and use it for something else. The entire comic did not get a copyright.

[Anonymous No.7084591]

>>7084184
This is straight up lie though. They didn't hire prompters, they force programmers to do the job of artists using AI to save cost.

[Anonymous No.7084598]

>>7084554
Novelai

[Anonymous No.7084602]

>>7084543
somebody already did that

[Anonymous No.7084608]

>>7084602
Is this frowned upon? That's cool as fuck

[Anonymous No.7084610]

>>7084608
>Is this frowned upon? That's cool as fuck
img2img has been around for years now. Easy peasy stuff.

[Anonymous No.7084614]

Second internet for people that actually have souls when?

[Anonymous No.7084616]

>>7084598
>Novelai
Looks like it pay for service. Looks good for storyboarding. In practice, AI needs a lot of pre and postprocessing which requires an eye for art and some decent digital chops. The just "proompt" and generate art is an /ic myth. Takes a lot of work and may not always be worth it.

[Anonymous No.7084636]

>>7084608
It's for lazy retards that don't want to improve their drawing
You might as well just trace AI outputs and pass it off as your own if you think it's cool

[Anonymous No.7084650]

>>7084184
>AI prompters ask for the same money as artists now
sound like feel-good bs

[Anonymous No.7084705]

>>7084636
>You might as well just trace AI outputs and pass it off as your own if you think it's cool
or better yet just get AI to do everything and then go play video games.

[Anonymous No.7084748]

>>7084576
>But I could take every single page from that comic and use it for something else.
That is worthless. A comic only has worth because you can read it and follow the story . A game only has worth because you can play it.

[Anonymous No.7084761]

>>7084602
Why even go through the effort of drawing that much

[Anonymous No.7084770]

>>7084761
>leaving thinking and creativity to a glorified calculator
Why do some people take pride in behaving like bots? Transhumanists and nihilists are a dangerously fast-growing plague.

[Anonymous No.7084773]

>>7079186
An AI tracer with 30k followers just got away with his fraud without consequences. It's going to become a lot more common, I bet you anything.

[Anonymous No.7084775]

>>7084773
What's a AI tracer? Tracing then AI to finish?

[Anonymous No.7084778]

>>7084775
Tracing AI generated images so that it looks genuine.

[Anonymous No.7084779]

>>7084778
Huh? I legit don't get it. How's that even work

[Anonymous No.7084782]

>>7084779
I truly don't understand how you aren't understanding such a simple concept. Do you not know what tracing is?

[Anonymous No.7084786]

>>7084782
Yeah but tracing over a AI image? I don't see the point or how it'd make it look any better

[Anonymous No.7084787]

>>7084786
So that you can pass yourself off as a genuine artist for profit. Does that make sense now?

[Anonymous No.7084788]

>>7084773
A tracer? I just saw a retard on twitter get scammed by someone blatantly using using bing AI lol
https://twitter.com/CrunchyTheKid2/status/1764340829785883129

[Anonymous No.7084789]

>>7084787
Kind of but I don't get the process, so he prompts something, then fixes the mistakes best he can?

[Anonymous No.7084792]

>>7084789
Your questions are starting to feel less genuine. You're not this stupid.

[Anonymous No.7084798]

>>7084770
Imagine doing all the math in your head when calculators exist, it's just stupid.

[Anonymous No.7084832]

>>7079186
Sirs...

[Anonymous No.7084880]

>>7084798
>Math is thought, creativity, feelings
>Math is life
>Become a glorified biological calculator
>Pollute the universe with infinite biological bots
>Crack the code of the universe and become the one true God
>The singularity is now
>Humans are obsolete, life is obsolete
>I am very smart

[Anonymous No.7084898]

>>7084616
lmao
kill yourself shad

[Anonymous No.7084952]

>>7084184
as much as I mock the "I spent 3 hours getting the exact hair curl I imagined" posts by AI "artists", my experience with it is that it is extremely time consuming to get anything usable out of it. and even then...

now, my definition of usable is different from other people's definition

I've seen some AI book covers on amazon recently that are nowhere near usable for me. but they were clearly usable for them

and the tech will get better. we will get usable results faster, even controllable results (though, at some point, it might become harder to distinguish between your intentions and the instantly agreeable results of AI; you see it happen already with many delusional prompters)

as it stands, though, the time it takes me to do anything interesting with AI is time I could've spent just doing it myself

I can see how companies with access to swarms of cheap east/south asian artists may not see any benefit from AI, if their standards are high enough

we'll see how it develops

[Anonymous No.7085282]

>>7079420
>too censored
???

[Anonymous No.7085323]

>>7079935
>>7081463
I very rarely post my generations anywhere and definitely won't make my taxes harder to do by trying to earn a few cents from my AI slop. I just proompt and coom in my free time and I'm sure that there are many others who do the same.

[Anonymous No.7085507]

>>7085282
>posts non ai image

[Anonymous No.7085606]

>>7084761
>completely disregards proportions and color choices, rotates the figure arbitrarily
why even go through the effort of using this if it's just going to produce something as accurate as a 3 word prompt

[Anonymous No.7085617]

>>7085507
That's AI though.

[Anonymous No.7085777]

>>7079212
only for memes

[Anonymous No.7086234]

>>7085507
Are you for real? To be fair, it looks like some details and fixes were drawn by hand, but if you get fooled by such crude work, you have no right to even be discussing AI art.

[Anonymous No.7086236]

>>7086234
>To be fair, it looks like some details and fixes were drawn by hand
It's 100% AI mate. No manual edits.