/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners General

[Anonymous No.7066397]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
e-hentai.org/tag/other:how+to
line-of-action.com
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific

Previous thread: >>7061289

[Anonymous No.7066411]

>>7066397
Not sure what to put on the upper deck of this lil wip.

Any advice? (Also i know i need to redo the table in the bottom left, as i fucked up rotating it in perspective so it's broken in persp)

[Anonymous No.7066414]

Had fun with my pencil! finally started the book.
overall really fun, and I think I learned alot so far about construction.
after drawabox this is sort of a breath of fresh air.

...ignore number 4, and the repeated 8

[Anonymous No.7066415]

>>7066411
add a tapestry and a wallful of medals or trophies

[Anonymous No.7066418]

>>7066411
minecraft enchanting set up, obviously.

[Anonymous No.7066426]

>>7066411
scale seems a little inconsistent across objects, it might help you to mark the height of character at various places in the scene to help you make things a consistent size

[Anonymous No.7066428]

>>7066411
Perspective is all over the place, especially that table

[Anonymous No.7066429]

>>7066428
>(Also i know i need to redo the table in the bottom left, as i fucked up rotating it in perspective so it's broken in persp)

[Anonymous No.7066444]

Looking for that blog post on how to start drawing.
It's on an artist's personal website and the name of the website is his first and last name IIRC.
The background is white and on the top there's a black and white drawing of a landscape, possibly a rural scene.

Thank you very much in advance.

[Anonymous No.7066445]

>>7066429
My bad, anon

[Anonymous No.7066463]

I'm so fucking retarded
I think I understand how light works but i don't know how to apply it at all.

[Anonymous No.7066500]

>>7066411
I love stuff like this, is this for any course, or did you use any materials to help you learn to do this?

[Anonymous No.7066507]

final pencil before inking and adding shadows. Any crits or thoughts?

[Anonymous No.7066531]

>>7066507
arm anatomy's fucked; what's up with that triceps? also, jin has two winds, but you seem to have drawn only one starting from his right shoulderblade; did you forget the other wing?
also^2, the head is too wide, the gap between the ear and the eye is wider than the width between the ends of the two eyes

[Anonymous No.7066537]

>>7066500
I kinda just watched a feng zhu video on the subject and YOLO from there

It's a case of just keep trying until you can do it. I'm still not amazing at it desu and it's frustrating

[Anonymous No.7066538]

Generic shaman girl done from imagination. It's shit but I wanted to post something.

[Anonymous No.7066569]

>>7066507
>>7066531
I see what you are saying about the head. That's a common mistake I make. Do you know a good rule of thumb to make sure it doesn't get that wide?


also here's the ref I was working on, the arm is turned a bit towards his body so you see the tricep more. I had to fill in the gaps I didn't see

[Anonymous No.7066585]

>>7066569
>>7066507
Yeah you really fucked up the bend of the arm area

[Anonymous No.7066602]

small study today

[Anonymous No.7066609]

>>7066538
soulful

[Anonymous No.7066611]

>>7066602
what did you learn

[Anonymous No.7066634]

Doing what you all keep egging me to do and going through Keys to Drawing. I'm not sure if it's going well.

[Anonymous No.7066648]

Why should I take advice from random people online? For all I know you might be retards, gays, alcoholics, blacks, nodraws, permabegs or crabs. Irl Pawell is a downs syndrome retard locked away in a forgotten room somewhere but here he is king, free to give advice to the next generation of permabegs.

[Anonymous No.7066650]

>>7066648
>but here he is king
lol you're the retard here

[Anonymous No.7066651]

>>7066611
shape language
polishing my observation skill
construction
improved my line control

[Anonymous No.7066655]

>>7066650
He is, people here don't shit on him enough.

[Anonymous No.7066658]

>>7066648
N-no please stay we're really sorry we literally can't continue without you how can we convince you to stay

fag

[Anonymous No.7066663]

What the fuck do you mean when you say just draw. I can't even make a straight line and you want me to just draw?

[Anonymous No.7066666]

>>7066663
>I want to learn how to draw and you want me to do WHAT? DRAW? WHAT THE FUCK??1!?!1?1/!

[Anonymous No.7066668]

>>7066663
yeah? you'll straighten it out with practice, just draw dude it's mileage not trigonometry

[Anonymous No.7066669]

>>7066648
Pawell is still better than you simply because he actually draws, all you do is bitch and moan on a finnish sauna forum.

[Anonymous No.7066671]

>>7066663
What do you think this is Karate Kid? Yes in order to draw you actually draw dumb bitch not wax windows and sweep floors or some other magical technique.

[Anonymous No.7066672]

>>7066668
>>7066666
Draw what? I can't even draw anything so how the fuck am I ment to start?

[Anonymous No.7066673]

>>7066672
go draw a box

[Anonymous No.7066674]

>>7066672
You lost before you started playing, congrats

[Anonymous No.7066680]

>be me
>enter /beg/
>no actual critiques
>post two obvious bait posts
>farm (you)s in seconds
>leave until next time
It's that easy.

[Anonymous No.7066685]

>>7066680
You're mikufag aren't you

[Anonymous No.7066686]

[Anonymous No.7066692]

>>7066680
You're not as cool as you think. But if it makes you feel better have a (you). We all have to find some form of meaning in this desolate plane.

[Anonymous No.7066693]

>>7066686
He isn't wrong, you retards can never help yourselves from shitting up the thread by responding to bait posts.

[Anonymous No.7066702]

I don't draw, and this is something that i wanted to make into a super realistic art(without having skills).
But the end product was so nice, i decided not to mess with it.

[Anonymous No.7066703]

>>7066693
Shitposter or real schizo, doesn't matter. Shitting on posts like that deters real ones from happening as much since they know they'll get shit on. Let the shitposter have his little hit of dopamine, it's better than letting the Howies run rampant.

[Anonymous No.7066705]

The fact that Pawell hasn't been forced out of /beg/ just proves that this place is a morons paradise.

[Anonymous No.7066708]

More confident lines
better observation
Forms

I tried to focus on these things, any tips on how to improve them?
Im happy with how the one on the left turned out

[Anonymous No.7066717]

>>7066703
I disagree I think the ppl who respond to bait posts are worse. They flood the thread with useless garbage and never respond giving actual critiques to ppl.

[Anonymous No.7066721]

>>7066444
David Finch. FWIW I think it's a really bad roadmap unless you're really into western capeshit comics and that's your end goal.

[Anonymous No.7066723]

>>7066721
>draw bridgman twice
Enough to know it's a /beg/trap

[Anonymous No.7066726]

>>7066717
Seeing how bad Howie posting in /beg/ and /ic/ as a whole has been these past few days I'd be inclined to disagree. But for the sake of the thread I'll stop posting about this now.
For anyone looking to give real advice I implore to only respond to anons who post their work. Don't waste your time with Howie posts, we're not here to facilitate life advice and it of course could always be bait.

[Anonymous No.7066728]

back to fucking around this fruitless dream. Here's to hoping i figure it all out this loop.

[Anonymous No.7066731]

>>7066726
Nah you're retarded they only post cause people reply.

[Anonymous No.7066735]

Oh new thread. Is it problem if i post same thing here i just drew now?

[Anonymous No.7066737]

>>7066735
no you'll get negative reddit karma and downvotes
(go for it)

[Anonymous No.7066743]

>>7066737
Ok i drew today another attempt of shading a tomato just with different reference
After seeing i can't understand it well i found on proko's community someones breakdown, eyeballed it and then tried drawing same thing but without using their breakdown to see if i could learn
Bottom one is last day tomato, one above this one i just drew

[Anonymous No.7066744]

yeah i wouldnt say im beg anymore
gotta face the reality of things
yeah yeah, no hands and feet, i know. ill do those tomorrow because my eyes are burning.

[Anonymous No.7066746]

>>7066743
that's already looking better anon, neat improvement over the previous two-three that I remember
try to do a set-up with several fruits (aka google still life setup and get one down)

[Anonymous No.7066751]

>>7066746
Sure, no problem. I'll find some still life set up and draw fruit

[Anonymous No.7066758]

>>7066721
That's exactly it, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.7066773]

>>7066673
Dude I tried that, got told I can't draw boxes, and now I'm going through something expecting me to draw hands.
I'm starting to understand what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.7066781]

Learning a bit about drapery

[Anonymous No.7066783]

>>7066773
>Dude I tried that, got told I can't draw boxes
so you draw more until you can, figure out the mistakes etc
it's a skill you're not born with

[Anonymous No.7066787]

>>7066783
stop replying to bait.

[Anonymous No.7066796]

>EVERY LINE I DRAW IS SHIT HOW DO I DRAW TELL ME NOW
Draw the shittiest body imaginable. Right now. Make it purposefully shitty. Ignore your internal dialogue sperging at you that the lines look too short or that you're ngmi when the sketch isn't even finished
Then look at it again. You can see the mistakes, so focus on one of them and draw another body. It will look less shitty. Keep going until you have a turd that looks polished enough.
Eventually you'll get in a flow and the voice will stop. And you'll get better. Stop taking art so seriously. It's just shapes and lines.

[Anonymous No.7066805]

Why is sculpting so hard? Nothing like in Blender

[Anonymous No.7066806]

Starting keys to drawing. Is it working?

[Anonymous No.7066812]

>>7066806
>digital
No it's not anon.

[Anonymous No.7066833]

>>7066805
nice

[Anonymous No.7066835]

>>7066806
nice crotch anon
but you should do this on paper probably

[Anonymous No.7066857]

What do i draw(no humans they:re too hard)

[Anonymous No.7066858]

I'm so busy I'm lucky to get one doodle a day in. Ballpoint and gel pen in my journal at work today.

[sage No.7066859]

>>7066857
draw cans of beer

[Anonymous No.7066867]

>>7066858
>Save money
>move to a low cost country
>draw for years.

[Anonymous No.7066872]

>>7066859
If you're not aware you don't actually have to put sage in all boxes, that's just a meme to out people for saging. It only needs to go in options.

[Anonymous No.7066874]

>>7066872
Oh I know, I still miss mailto sage

[Anonymous No.7066881]

I ended up contributing to the last thread. I offer my most sincere apology and will resume not drawing.

[Anonymous No.7066890]

I sketched another thing, this time a blissey in a maid outfit, thought it was cute, any critiques or advice?

[Anonymous No.7066893]

>>7066783
But they told me the mistakes, why do you think they told me to read Keys to Drawing.

[Anonymous No.7066896]

>>7066857
An eye

[Anonymous No.7066902]

>>7066893
ok so work on fixing them, i don't see the problem

[Anonymous No.7066908]

>>7066890
cute, be careful of noodling your lines too much. try to draw the curves in one stroke

[Anonymous No.7066920]

>>7066397
Keys to Drawing Project 1.D.

Thoughts? Feedback? Should I do it again?

[Anonymous No.7066922]

>>7066920
yes (and resize your photos)
the eyeballs aren't actually that big, look at the tear duct and the thickness of the lower eyelid

[Anonymous No.7066923]

Some scribles. At least I drew today.

[Anonymous No.7066924]

>>7066538
It's very nice and expressive. 9.5/10.

[Anonymous No.7066925]

>>7066708
Very nice. Reference?

[Anonymous No.7066926]

>>7066920
People would progress so much quicker if they took it slow and tried to understand the exercise, instead of spending as little time as possible to hurry up and post on /beg/, as if there's any other advice other than do it again.

[Anonymous No.7066929]

>>7066812
>>7066835

Does it being on paper change something?

[Anonymous No.7066936]

>>7066926
The exercise says do it in 20 minutes

[Anonymous No.7066938]

>>7066936
And the picture looks like it took 4. Pay attention and think. The book up to that point explains in no uncertain terms what symbol drawing is and how to avoid it

[Anonymous No.7066940]

>>7066929
Yes, it has been decreed by me that no /beg/ who starts with digital shall ever reach /int/ or beyond, they shall instead be banished into the depths of /permabeg/ forced to share advice in /beg/ with others of their kind like Pawell for all of eternity.

[Anonymous No.7066947]

>>7066938
The entire book has been a total fucking disaster. I don't even know why I waste my time

[Anonymous No.7066948]

I'm beyond retarded so forgive me. I can never figure what's wrong with my digital painting. I try to get a soft edge but it always looks watery...best way I can describe it.

[Anonymous No.7066949]

>>7066947
can't get a deuce against a grand slam master on your first week of tennis, anon; keep at it

[Anonymous No.7066952]

>>7066947
Wait, is this keys to drawing? You're falling for a beg trap, lol

[Anonymous No.7066956]

>>7066947
Ok anon now realise that it will not get easier for a long long time. So either start grinding or fuck off + stop posting every fucking drawing go draw shit in your house for a couple hours this week then come back dumbass.

[Anonymous No.7066960]

>>7066948
thats a VERY hard edge there anon, blend that shit out, here's a quick overpaint on top of yours, i blended the FUCK out of it and increased the value range slightly

[Anonymous No.7066969]

Cna i get better without drawing from life?
I really hate doing it. Copying is much more fun.

Feel free to ignore if this is an ostensibly silly question.

[Anonymous No.7066971]

[Anonymous No.7066974]

>>7066969
>Cna i get better without drawing from life?
yes
>Copying is much more fun.
copying will teach you how to copy, not how to draw

[Anonymous No.7066975]

>>7066947
Drop Keys to Drawing, its unironically a fucking beg trap.
You wanna git gud?
Practice drawing straight lines, curved lines, ovals and circles.
Learn basic perspective (2 point and 3 point), then practice drawing basic shapes like boxes and cylinders (the two most important), cones and pyramids.
Move on to complex shapes and rendering (learn how light works)
Congrats nigga, you can pretty much draw anything now. But you gotta put in the effort.
Use reference. Try to draw the reference. How? Break down complex shapes into simple shapes.
You wanna draw faces? Learn head construction, I recommend the Loomis method
Stop with all these bullshit books, you're burning yourself out before you can even draw a decent box

[Anonymous No.7066977]

>>7066974
>copying will teach you how to copy, not how to draw
Not true at all, copying WILL teach you how to draw

[Anonymous No.7066978]

I fucking hate myself, for the laat month and a half I have had this paralysing fear of failiure that doesn't let me draw from reference/ study anything. In the meantime I have amassed 180 pictures and drawings that I want to study and bought bridgmans book but fo course every time I sit down and try to do somethofg with it my brain shuts down and I just look at it like a fucking ape
I have drawn from reference before and while the results were at most mediocre I was analysing and learning. i don't know hwhat has happened to me
I have no such problems with drawing from imagination but I don't do it for long because as expexted from a filthy beg as I am the results are so awful that looking at them saps me of my will to draw and live
Sorry for blogpost and rant but I had to get this out of my system

[Anonymous No.7066979]

>>7066975
>Stop drawing
>instead draw straight lines like an autist
Yeah right dickhead.

[Anonymous No.7066982]

>>7066974
>copying will teach you how to copy, not how to draw
Shit
But it's not a waste of time, right?

[Anonymous No.7066983]

>>7066978
You're putting too much pressure on yourself. Pick up bridgeman in a year, that shit isnt going anywhere.
Just start scribbling, stop overthinking
>>7066979
Works for me

[Anonymous No.7066985]

>>7066978
Try beating it off before sitting down to study.
Should clear out anxieties right up tho ur motivation might waver.
It also needs to be a really solid nut for it to work

[Anonymous No.7066986]

>>7066974
Copying is part of drawing retard.

[Anonymous No.7066993]

>>7066975
What about KTD makes it a beg trap?

[Anonymous No.7066997]

>>7066890
>dress hides feet
as it should
cause drawing feet is fucking annoying

[Anonymous No.7067001]

>>7066993
It overloads the beginner's brain instead of actually helping it
You're unironically better off practicing drawing a bunch of boxes

[Anonymous No.7067002]

>>7066983
Your hatching is pretty bad for someone advocating line exercises. Shit looks like straight up fur.

[Anonymous No.7067005]

>>7066948
despite what a lot of niggers say, the soft round brush isn't your enemy, just don't overuse it.
Make sure to increase the size to something bigger than you actually need and slowly build up the colour.

[Anonymous No.7067006]

>>7067002
>no work posted

[Anonymous No.7067009]

>>7067001
That sounds like a user issue rather than a book issue. I wouldn't immediately call something a begtrap as that has some serious connotations around here. From what I've seen KTD has a lot of good info in it.

[Anonymous No.7067010]

>>7067001
>overloads the beginners brain
Explain this sentence, sounds like a bunch of smart talk to me.

[Anonymous No.7067012]

>>7066982
it's not, it's a necessary skill. it'll teach you to see angles/values/whatever better, and that's invaluable. people recommend drawing from life because it helps train those skills much more, and gives you a better understanding of the subject at the end, plus you've got something that's not a still image and that's funny on the brain
you don't need to draw from life to learn to draw, sure, but you still gotta do construction/anatomy/breakdowns with or without it. mindlessly connecting angles and dots won't teach you that unless you're thinking about it directly

>>7067002
>>7066977
>>7066986
>>7067001
pyw

[Anonymous No.7067014]

>>7067001
I'm not the anon that asked but i had KTD downloaded
Just wondered if Charles Baruge book is to be deleted too?

[Anonymous No.7067016]

>>7067012
Nah you're retarded 4real.

[Anonymous No.7067018]

>>7067001
advice like this reminds that there are people in life that exist solely to assassinate other peoples potential

[Anonymous No.7067019]

>>7067012
Here you go, copying will teach you how to draw
and Keys to Drawing is a garbage book that keeps anon away from drawing
Now post YOUR work
>>7067014
Depends, Ive never read his work before. I only know of the barque plates, which is nice for accuracy training

[Anonymous No.7067021]

>>7067014
Bargue's book is completely different, it's an exercise in perception. very good book, used in teaching artists for over a hundred years. you might not have any use of it just yet, but it's always good when you've got some line confidence and have at least some understanding of value to train yourself in observation further
>>7067016
predictable

[Anonymous No.7067023]

>>7067014
Nevermind i'm kinda confused. I do have my preferences and books i like more but fear of permabeg future so quick to dismiss. I hope i didn't make wrong choice and deleted something useful

[Anonymous No.7067024]

>>7067014
You see, now this guy wants to completely delete books from his library just because it was called a begtrap once. Unless a book is telling you to do voodoo to be better at art, don't immediately throw it away, they all hold good info.
If a book is "overloading" you just follow it at a slower pace.

[Anonymous No.7067028]

>>7067024
Welp too late
>>7067023

[Anonymous No.7067034]

>Mouth breathing retards who advocate for Keys for Drawing, and saying copying is bad are RADIO SILENT after getting called out to post their work
who
would
have
thought.
its almost as if you guys love to talk the talk, but don't do the walk

[Anonymous No.7067036]

>>7066983
>>7066975
I respect this desu
>reach a level that'll impress /beg
>give crab advice

[Anonymous No.7067039]

>>7067034
Imagine being this starved for attention

[Anonymous No.7067041]

>>7067001
This might be bait but if it's not you are completely retarded. Art books shouldn't be finished quickly (which is the only way you can get overwhelmed by it)it should be done over months, maybe even years if it's something like anatomy. Learn how to read a book correctly before you give advice on what books are good or bad

[Anonymous No.7067043]

>>7067019
>Here you go, copying will teach you how to draw
I mean unless you're thinking about what you're copying I still don't think it's gonna do much, which is why we get a lot of begwhiners
>and Keys to Drawing is a garbage book that keeps anon away from drawing
agreed
>Now post YOUR work
sure, I don't have much new digital shit and cba to photograph the oils and temperas, so you'll have to deal with this

[Anonymous No.7067045]

>>7067021
>>7067021
Oh that works for me. When i used to do often head studies from front with loomis i'd get lost and confused with proportions but when constructing more with straights building it like a sculptor would it got easier for me.
Here's few months older head study. Right is loomis and left is using straights building up from silhouette of hair to details, both are same face

[Anonymous No.7067047]

>>7067028
No problem i just downloaded it back

[Anonymous No.7067049]

>>7067043
>begshit posts work
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.7067051]

Here's something I did a while back that I would consider one of the better things I've produced. Is there anything inherently wrong with it that I don't see, or any places I should work on studying?

[Anonymous No.7067052]

>>7067049
stay classy /ic/

[Anonymous No.7067055]

>>7067043
Good, we're in an agreement then
I respect anyone who posts their work
>>7067049
You fuck off, crab
>>7067041
>being stuck with Keys to Drawing FOR MONTHS, OR EVEN YEARS
And you fucking dare call me retarded. Funny how you didnt post work either
>>7067036
Pyw you nodrawing shitter

[Anonymous No.7067060]

>>7067055
>two kindergarteners show their spaghetti art to eachother to prove themselves.
Stay /beg/

[Anonymous No.7067065]

>>7067060
Having fun in the bucket?

[Anonymous No.7067067]

How do I avoid becoming like Pawell? Is it genetic? Is it Keys to drawing? Or is it something else?

[Anonymous No.7067068]

>>7067051
why's her pinkie finger as long as her ring and middle fingers anon
what were you trying with the weird V on the inside of the elbow/upper forearm?
I feel you stylising the face messed it up: the eyes look weird especially for a tilt like that (see ear and nose), and the tooth is sticking out almost in the middle of her mouth; if that's supposed to be a canine, you gotta move it further into the corner

lower body feels flat and has no form. her dress is not deformed at all from her sitting on it, yet she's got her hand and legs on the ground which implies a ground plane and not floating in midair

the area where the foot connects to the leg does not look like an ankle here, it feels like her ankles are broken and feet rotated/pushed way back, like there's no achilles tendon

i also think the very thick line isn't doing you favours here, most of all on the face, but that's not that big of a deal eh

[Anonymous No.7067071]

Anyone have tips on how to paint Latex/Shiny leather?
Im trying to render a bodysuit but i just cant get it right.

[Anonymous No.7067072]

>>7067067
pawell is drawing and improving, even though it's not at a great pace. you can avoid becoming like pawell by not drawing and not posting your work

[Anonymous No.7067075]

Okay legit question since we keep talking about it: Do I really need to go through KTD if I wanna go for more stylised/unrealistic art? Cause that seems to be for more realistic stuff, and I wanna know before I potentially waste my time.

[Anonymous No.7067076]

>>7067072
>pawell
>improving
I've been here long enough to know that this is a lie. I see no improvement from his work posted years ago on his link either.

[Anonymous No.7067077]

>>7066925
I can't find the ref for the left one sorry
it was from my unorganized ref folder which is massive

[Anonymous No.7067079]

>>7067075
KTD's really just there to teach you the basics, not stylization. If you already have a solid grasp of the fundamentals maybe just skim through it.

[Anonymous No.7067080]

>>7067075
you don't need to go through it, it's not an excellent book or anything. it's a middling book on fundies and "thinking like an artist"
> if I wanna go for more stylised/unrealistic art? Cause that seems to be for more realistic stuff, and I wanna know before I potentially waste my time.
picrel is only half of a meme. most? all? good artists of unrealistic/stylised art can do at least decent realistic art, because stylisation requires that you know what you're stylising. you gotta know your anatomy at least a little bit before you try to simplify it.

[Anonymous No.7067086]

>>7067067
He looks like to me like he draws everything but never sticks to anything to refine it. Just jumping around doing random studies. The faces looks disgusting and uncanny to me and bodies look deformed and colours make it even worse. His art could be great visual for some off putting animation or game

[Anonymous No.7067088]

>>7067071
No warranty. I got this off /trash/.

[Anonymous No.7067091]

>>7066655
people do not shit on most, are we all kings then

[Anonymous No.7067092]

>>7067088
thanks, thats really helpful

[Anonymous No.7067107]

>>7067075
observation is the core skill you need to develop, no matter if you want to stylize or not
going through KTD is just one way of developing that skill

[Anonymous No.7067116]

>>7067068
Here's the reference I used. I really only glanced at it, hoping to follow the basic pose not make a one to one. But I definitely wasn't careful enough like you explain.
>why's her pinkie finger as long as her ring and middle fingers anon
You're right, I didn't notice how off it looked while drawing.
>what were you trying with the weird V on the inside of the elbow/upper forearm?
I think that was just a stand-in line to show where the bend would be, doesn't look very good how I did it I concur.
>I feel you stylising the face messed it up: the eyes look weird especially for a tilt like that (see ear and nose)
I don't see what you mean here. Could you elaborate or draw over it?
>the tooth is sticking out almost in the middle of her mouth; if that's supposed to be a canine, you gotta move it further into the corner
That makes sense.
>lower body feels flat and has no form.
That's probably from the large area of flat color with no shading. I should've done some basic celshading, but felt it was good enough as is at the time. I'm looking to do more next time.
>her dress is not deformed at all from her sitting on it, yet she's got her hand and legs on the ground which implies a ground plane and not floating in midair
This also makes sense, I know very little about drawing fabric around form, something else I need to do.
>the area where the foot connects to the leg does not look like an ankle here, it feels like her ankles are broken and feet rotated/pushed way back, like there's no achilles tendon
The feet were the only part I heavily referenced, so I disagree that it is not anatomically correct.
>i also think the very thick line isn't doing you favours here, most of all on the face, but that's not that big of a deal eh
I got over excited when drawing the thickness of the lineart, can agree.

Thank you for the response, I appreciate the critique

[Anonymous No.7067118]

>>7067051
the left arm flattens the whole illustration to me, the arrow elbow is bad choice steal focus from the picture, also start doing a simple celshading, you are doing great.

[Anonymous No.7067120]

>>7067067
> how to avoid becoming like Pawel
By doing like most people and only showing/posting drawings that you are most comfortable with so that people think you are better at drawing than you actually are.

[Anonymous No.7067133]

>>7066397
How’s this pose looking so far?

[Anonymous No.7067134]

>>7067133

[Anonymous No.7067135]

how am i doing so far?

[Anonymous No.7067140]

This is it, I am sick of my shit uncanny valley drawings of disproportionate anime girls. Starting today, I reject my humanity! I’ve found that drawing these ungeheueren Ungeziefer is actually much more fun for me and easier to make actually look cool, when there are no obvious proportions to keep track of. Drew this little guy today, what do you think? This is based on an exiting bug, but I think drawing imaginary insect creatures is my true calling.

[Anonymous No.7067144]

>>7067135
Actually not bad. Keep it up!

[Anonymous No.7067146]

[Anonymous No.7067147]

>>7067140
Based and ungeziefer-pilled.
Honestly though drawing bugs is pretty fun. They are essentially organic mecha after all and you can construct them similarly. Good way to practice shapes

[Anonymous No.7067160]

>>7067134
>>7067133
the gesture of the left hand is tense, doesnt feels relax, a tip from the masters in a different paper try to do some exploration of poses, values, gestures, etc. from my own exploration the middle finger and its metacarpal gives a nice gesture.

[Anonymous No.7067167]

hello /beg/ back on my shit after a minor work-related breakdown what did i miss

[Anonymous No.7067171]

>>7067118
Thanks anon, that left arm is very wonky I agree as well.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7067182]

Does this look like shes slightly leaning foward?
Sorry for posting crappy sketches only, its what i can do with my current work schedule.

[Anonymous No.7067190]

>>7067120
nice try, Pawel but you're not fooling us

[art person No.7067197]

critique before i jump into color?

[Anonymous No.7067216]

>>7067197
Momohime is a BASED choice from a great game
If I were you I'd give her bedroom eyes and make the parts being grabbed squishier. I think it would make the pic as a whole sexier
Also the katana seems a bit sloppy but that's not the main focus of the pic and everyone knows it so check that but just if you want.

[Anonymous No.7067218]

It feels cool being called an AI fag.

[Anonymous No.7067237]

>>7067005
>>7066960
Thanks anons, I'll work on this!

[Anonymous No.7067239]

>>7067216
cool, thanks, noted.

[Anonymous No.7067241]

>>7067218
it's getting hot in /int/ & /beg/

[Anonymous No.7067260]

>>7067116
>>7067134
neat refs

[Anonymous No.7067265]

I tried rough perspective for 1 point of a room from life, don't think I'm bothered enough to finish it desu. am I doing it right though? I drew the horizon line roughly where my eyeline was when sitting. if I want to apply this to a different view I guess like 2 point, the same applies? just don't draw objects with their own VPs going to the ones that room corners are going to?

[Anonymous No.7067267]

>>7067218
>those repeated attempts at fishnets and then giving up
jk, good job
it's very nice

[Anonymous No.7067271]

>>7067260
Nice job anon, I love your lines. Very dynamic and communicative. What figure drawing courses did you take?

[Anonymous No.7067272]

>>7067265
also this >>7066886

[Anonymous No.7067273]

I have pretty bad trouble with foreshortening so if I draw people or boxes from a distant view so everything in the image is the same uniform size. How do you actually tell what part of the image is supposed to be bigger?

[Anonymous No.7067276]

>>7067265
>I tried rough perspective for 1 point of a room from life, don't think I'm bothered enough to finish it desu. am I doing it right though?
you got the gist of it yeah
> if I want to apply this to a different view I guess like 2 point, the same applies? just don't draw objects with their own VPs going to the ones that room corners are going to?
it takes a bit of setting up to do a good 2 point perspective frame if you wanna do it anally right (angle measurements for the field of view, Olson talks about that if you've seen the course), but yeah any object can have its own vanishing points that all go Somewhere on the horizon

[Anonymous No.7067279]

>>7067272
> never have enough space on the page
draw a tiny sketch first so you figure out what goes where and how you want to frame it
> rest of the questions
olson

[Anonymous No.7067283]

>>7067147
>They are essentially organic mecha after all
Not him but holy shit, that makes sense

[Anonymous No.7067297]

>>7067273
overlaps and line weight

[Anonymous No.7067299]

>>7067276
>>7067279
thanks. who is Olson?

[Anonymous No.7067301]

>>7067299
https://www.nma.art/courses/a-complete-guide-to-perspective-for-artists-with-erik-olson/
his course should be in the ic torrent over in the video thread

[Anonymous No.7067302]

>>7067273
>>7067297

[Anonymous No.7067311]

Hello beg

>>7067273
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/page/n99
>>7067265
perspective is mathematically defined topic, the only art skillset with absolute certainty of what is correct and what is not. if you cannot judge your drawery in terms of perspective, you have a (perspective) book to read
>>7067218
nice
>>7067197
simple, coomable, SOUL. i kneel
>>7067182
it looks like she is simply standing with tight hands. good enough for a maid
>>7067140
dont be a coward, keep drawing anime girls until they are no longer wrong
>>7067067
since i document my art journey very well (on muh blog), all you need is to read / see what i have been doing and do none of that. easy
>>7066971
careful with the horizontal feet: they suggest the eye level is directly at the floor and or that we see these two from a great distance. you most likely want the feet to be seen from above = at a lesser angle than 180 degrees
>>7066923
she looks like she cuts herself for "fun"
>>7066920
symbol drawing. reread and redo the chapter. the 20 minutes is the MINUMUM amount of time needed for the task, not the maximum. Take your time
>>7066805
very cool. but why is blender easier?
>>7066602
nice
>>7066463
turn the outlines WHITE and the pic will be kino. to do that simply use "lock the alpha" in the app and paint over it

[Anonymous No.7067321]

>>7067311
id prefer if u draw more of that animal thing. your humans are so rough the anatomy is unrecognizable if you didnt highlight it

[Anonymous No.7067334]

Woah what's up with the double threads AGAIN

[Anonymous No.7067337]

WOAH, pawell self-correcting? WOAH. I'm a pawell-redemptionist, now.

[Anonymous No.7067342]

tried doing something from imagination in under 1 hour
turned out pretty mediocre but id appreciate anything that stands out to you that i need to work on
i know the foreground perspective hand is kind of fucked i think i went too strong there

the torso is also too short i know, but i got too far in before i noticed...

[Anonymous No.7067365]

Did this quick study to re-learn correct face proportions. Still struggling with the nose a bit.

[Anonymous No.7067367]

I guess it is better than my last drawing.

[Anonymous No.7067372]

>>7067342
at this stage you just need to draw more (from reference)

[Anonymous No.7067379]

>>7067051
pose is kinda stiff mainly cus the arms, eye shapes are boring, the frills on the skirt are lazy as fuck, and the drappery on the shirt it looks like it's there for the sake of it unless you are trying to mimick some eme style like the danganropa artist, and that hand , hands are flat

[Anonymous No.7067380]

>>7067379
*arent flat

[Anonymous No.7067383]

>>7067367
Any advice on the anatomy of the body? Looking back, it is one of the most obvious shortcomings of this drawing.

[Anonymous No.7067394]

>>7067379
Thanks for the redline, effortlessly cool
>>7067380
hubba hubba

[Anonymous No.7067403]

>>7066397

[Anonymous No.7067424]

First real study I've done. Skulls because they are cool. Any advice before I go and do a billion more?

[Anonymous No.7067433]

>>7067311
thanks

[Anonymous No.7067434]

>Stuck in a rut, can't draw a thing for a week
>Try out a new pen tool
>Suddenly can draw all day and fil the whole page
Holy fuck, was it that easy? I don't konw if it's the sharpness that forced me to think where I put the line instead of constrantly redrawing it like when I use a fuzzy pencil like brush.
Or it might be because this brush is super simple so it's super responsive on the 144hz display, but something just clicked

[Anonymous No.7067497]

>>7066397
So I've been drawing for a while now and think pretty much everything I draw turns out badly, figured out it was my proportions that needed work the most so drew pic related from ref to try and improve using pencil to measure. Evidently while it's not perfect now I'm wondering if I even had a major problem with proportions or if I was just not taking enough time to measure stuff. Now I'm not really sure what to do, how tf do I achieve similar from memory? If I could do that I think I'd be pretty happy with my art and would be able to just improve more naturally.

[Anonymous No.7067498]

I hate this faggot so much its unreal

[Anonymous No.7067501]

>>7067497
My bad flipped it lol hopefully it'll look right now

[Anonymous No.7067502]

>>7067497
>>7067501
Wtf iPhone this is what I get for being a phoneposter

[Anonymous No.7067503]

>>7067424
The side view is more egg-shaped than ball-shaped
And right now you're just observing a skull and putting lines down in a hope that it resembles.
I suggest you learn actual construction of the skull, so you can more easily rotate it in space, and actually know what you're drawing. That being said, skulls are actually kinda hard to draw. There's a lot of perspective involved.
Otherwise keep it up, anon

[Anonymous No.7067557]

>>7067498
In his topsy turvy world, he’s considered quite a chad

[Anonymous No.7067576]

is it dumb to use pencil tool in CSP for proko drawing course

should I just use hard round??

[Anonymous No.7067616]

I'm gonna practice drawing profiles I guess
first one, spent 30 minutes on this :')

[Anonymous No.7067623]

Practicing figure drawings

Is there anything else I can do to practice front view?

I haven't drawn a female figure yet so I'll try that next, but I kind of want to get some more variety with drawing figures.

I don't want to get into poses too quick, or at least don't get into too crazy of a pose. Any advice on what I should do?

[Anonymous No.7067639]

>>7067616
*this is not how eye looks like
*human eye cant rotate 90 to the side
*ear is not on a jaw but behind

[Anonymous No.7067658]

>>7067498
The first time I did this, I thought I was supposed to "fix" him and draw him up straight.

[Anonymous No.7067659]

>>7067616
then use refs

[Anonymous No.7067662]

>>7067616
Ear is too far forward on the head

The eye looks like an eye from the front view, not an eye from the side view.

The neck is too thin, it needs to go further forward more. In fact the entire body below the head is too thin compared to the head. The face looks like it juts out like a caveman as a result

My advice is to use a reference and try to copy it. Or use a reference and trace the basic skeleton of it first, then draw over that.

I will say the hair looks pretty good for a quicker drawing.

[Anonymous No.7067665]

[Anonymous No.7067672]

>>7067639
>>7067659
>>7067662
i tried again

[Anonymous No.7067676]

>>7067623
Go on /ic/ torrent and watch Brent Evistons and/or Proko's course on figure/gesture drawing. You won't understand anything about figure if you only copy flat diagrams.
>I don't want to get into poses too quick
You should. Practice gesture drawings from various poses. They will suck ass first, but in several weeks you'll get human figure.
Copying flat diagrams will get you nowhere. A person leans a little bit and bends their legs - and your proportions go out the window. Work on visual library and draw many different poses instead.
Also keep in mind that it will take you literally hundreds and hundreds of figure drawings until you are somewhat adequate, so don't be upset if your first 30 figures are shit. Just look at Pawel, he grinds figures autistically and still looks permabeg.

[Anonymous No.7067679]

>>7067665
Are you drawing on paper or are you using textured brushes?

[Anonymous No.7067680]

>>7067665
all that time spent on rendering tits, but you should be studying necks; no living human has a neck that thin

[Anonymous No.7067681]

>>7067679
photoshop default brushes
>>7067680
true, the neck got messed up, i didnt even notice

[Anonymous No.7067737]

>>7067311
>careful with the horizontal feet:
Thanks. I’ll keep that in mind.

[Anonymous No.7067741]

>>7067672
looks much better
now do 1000 more

using following method:
draw ref looking at it
hide ref and redraw ref from memory
look at ref again, see where you got things wonrg and got things right, and redraw ref looking at it

every 5 refs you do this to, draw one 100% from imagination

[Anonymous No.7067743]

>>7066397
Not even pyramid head is safe from being coomified...

[Anonymous No.7067747]

>>7067743
theres plnety of pyramid head and general horror game monster coom
theres this one jap that makes his living off weird af horror monster coom, double deck his name is i think

[Anonymous No.7067750]

>>7066397 Trying my hardest to break this into basic forms, getting the back of the head , planes, and the features is fucking me

[Anonymous No.7067751]

[Anonymous No.7067753]

>>7067311
>pawell
Disgusting

[Anonymous No.7067760]

>>7067497
>>7067501
>>7067502
Resize the image and it won't flip

[Anonymous No.7067769]

>>7067001
KTD overloaded your brain?
I guess "fool-proof" really is an obsolote expression.

[Anonymous No.7067771]

>>7067365
Your eyes are much too big, sir.

[Anonymous No.7067773]

>>7067751
Can you post the ref? My face expression folder could use buffing up

[Anonymous No.7067777]

CHECK EM

[Anonymous No.7067778]

>>7067079
>>7067080
>>7067107
Hmm, got it. I do gotta improve on the basics, so I guess keep with it,

[Anonymous No.7067779]

>>7067777
It's not 2010 anymore, anon.

[Anonymous No.7067790]

>>7066702
It is chicken scratch.

[Anonymous No.7067791]

>>7067424
Like the other anon said, learn to draw a ball in space since it’ll help with the skull. Also if you can afford it, buy a skull model. I own one and it’s tremendously helpful in understanding the skull from a three dimensional perspective and seeing the head from extreme angles. Your drawings here are actually quite nice, especially the shading, but I think if you can, getting a model would go a long way

[Anonymous No.7067805]

>>7067779

[Anonymous No.7067810]

What are my biggest mistakes here (other than perfect accuracy)
Why do I feel like my copy is lacking that fluffy feeling the original has?
I tried to keep my lines light but they always end up looking stiff either way.

[Anonymous No.7067813]

>>7067779
>YOU JUST MADE THE LIST!!!

[Anonymous No.7067826]

>>7067750
A 15 minute breakdown. What a nice reference

[Anonymous No.7067829]

>>7067810
Your lines are too angular, that's why. Literally compare the jawline and hand for instance. Btw, that artist is a huge fan of Yukiko Horiguchi (K-On designer) which is why he draws pudgy fingers like that and rounder faces.

[Anonymous No.7067831]

>>7067810
Your lines are too straight, long, and narrow, it's not capturing the subtle softness of the original. Notice how his lines are short, rounded, and kinda loose.

[Anonymous No.7067844]

>>7067051
Ear is too low, and is that a tooth or her tongue sticking out?

[Anonymous No.7067847]

>>7067844
I think it's supposed to be the little fang some anime girls have. Should have put it on the left though

[Anonymous No.7067856]

>>7067140
Draw an anime mantis devouring her mate.

[Anonymous No.7067859]

>>7067140
Seriously, you could make a genre of insectoid people.

[Anonymous No.7067876]

>>7067829
>>7067831
I think I see it now. I don't know why but it always ends up being stiff, maybe I'm always too serious about the line art and redo it too much

[Anonymous No.7067902]

>>7067810
notice how the original has exactly no sharp corner in the lines on her body, they've been rounded out to a fault or when impossible just lost and not completed (like around the outer wrist); you on the other hand have a lot of jagged corners.
the original is curves curves curves with no identifiable edges,
your lines also kind of kill some of the gestural elements: look at the backwards curve of the finger, or the back and forth motion of the forearm. see picrel for some of the elements that first come to mind at a glance

[Anonymous No.7067915]

>>7067826
Thanks anon. Very helpful

>nice reference
Yup. They’re a great way to learn caricatures

[Anonymous No.7067961]

>>7067902
Thank you for the detailed image that helps. I need to keep this sense of roundness in mind when drawing, really failed in keeping the feeling of the drawing even if I tried to just be somewhat lose with it.

[Anonymous No.7067973]

>>7066969
But...drawing from life is copying?

[Anonymous No.7067976]

I started learning to draw aggressively with exercises, tracing, drawing figures with shapes. I thought I shouldn’t continue until I can draw a figure perfectly in any position from my mind. Well I took a break from drawing every day and now I feel stuck. My end goal is draw anime style figures from any angle but the proportions always look “off” like how many people here get redlined because the shoulders are too wide from the side. I just don’t know what to do. I was practicing hands a lot, took a week break and now my hands look bad.

[Anonymous No.7068000]

>>7067976
OK thanks for letting us know.

[Anonymous No.7068012]

>>7067976
>I just don’t know what to do
draw more and post your work

[Anonymous No.7068028]

How to stop being a howie?

[Anonymous No.7068033]

>>7068028
пpocтo бepи, pиcyй

[Anonymous No.7068044]

>>7068033
kurwa

[Anonymous No.7068054]

do you like my boyfriends chen drawing

[Anonymous No.7068063]

>>7068054
Tell him to not quit his day job

[Anonymous No.7068065]

>>7068054
does your boyfriend have a tight bussy?

[Anonymous No.7068074]

So for this one...I am pleased with the body (in that I feel I have improved with measuring the width and it's MUCH easier for me to construct now, only taking like 10 minutes max for me to do), but my god the head is too friggin wide and big.

There are other issues with it, but I figured it was worth sharing, any critiques?

Also side note, I actually skipped on drawing yesterday, so I dunno I felt a bit off when drawing despite only having a day's break. Regardless, it's easier for me to construct bodies though my method is still far too imperfect and I have a LOOOONG way to go still.

[Anonymous No.7068080]

>>7068063
yeah keep drawing your fucking eyeballs and your shaded apples i hope ai takes your jobs and you all hang yourselves or starve to death and you realize all youre gonna end up as is a skeleton buried 6 feet under and none of what youre doing matters

[Anonymous No.7068088]

>>7068080
Save that frustration for when you're pegging your boyfriend later

[Anonymous No.7068092]

>>7068074
make the butt smaller, poor girl is all ass

Also try to intentionally slow down and do your lines in one go, if it’s wrong that’s fine. The scratchy lines are because you’re going too fast. If the line is wrong slow down even more but don’t bother redoing a line more than twice. It’s better to just finish a figure incorrectly and accept that, then redo the whole thing if you want it “right”, practice is practice and you’ll get faster and better.

[Anonymous No.7068098]

>>7068088
i will

[Anonymous No.7068110]

>>7068012
But what am I supposed to be drawing? My art makes me cringe and other beginners art makes me cringe. I can draw like Pewdiepie, big deal. I want to draw entire bodies in any pose.

[Anonymous No.7068112]

>>7068110
>But what am I supposed to be drawing?
>draw entire bodies in any pose.
the question and the answer

[Anonymous No.7068119]

>>7068112
What should I be doing to make them look proportional? Drawing a body straight on isn’t hard but once you change the pose you are changing the perspective of what is supposed to be seen and I don’t know how to make it look accurate.

[Anonymous No.7068121]

>>7068110
Don't respond to whiney nodraw Howies, only to those who post their work. Even if it's uber/beg/, at least they're actually drawing.

[Anonymous No.7068125]

Don't respond to whiney nodraw Howies, only to those who post their work. Even if it's uber/beg/, at least they're actually drawing.

[Anonymous No.7068132]

>>7067403
simoor emos sdeen

[Anonymous No.7068136]

>>7068054
That's still better then my art

[Anonymous No.7068142]

>>7068119
>What should I be doing to make them look proportional?
Work on your visual library aka draw lots and lots of figures from reference.

[Anonymous No.7068144]

i just got back into digital/got a new tablet recently, traditional is fun for me but it kind of encourages me to draw less because i don't like to use up my good pens/drawing notebooks on basic exercises, so having a tablet is helping me do more warmups, if nothing else, before jumping into the main drawings. not particularly proud of this one, but i tried to get it done in under 3 hours, so for a relatively fast drawing (i normally take 1-2 days to finish), it came out good in comparison to my norm.

[Anonymous No.7068168]

>>7068144
trad art, for fair comparison

[Anonymous No.7068179]

>>7068144
>but i tried to get it done in under 3 hours

[Anonymous No.7068197]

>>7068144
>>7068168
I like your stuff, very promising. You need to study more anatomy tho, the dude's body is very wonky.

[Anonymous No.7068205]

Very good hands study today

[Anonymous No.7068210]

>>7067676
Where do I get those courses?

I looked on /ic/ torrent and the links don't seem to lead to Proko's

Which sucks cause that Character Design Monster Lab is something I was interested in too

[Anonymous No.7068212]

>>7068210
Oh shit sorry nvm, there's a free version online. Forget my post.

[Anonymous No.7068218]

>>7068212
You can get full versions on OCC

[Anonymous No.7068220]

Another day another drawin
Tried before attempting still life to test out if remembered what i copied yesterday

Kinda still messy in some ways

[Anonymous No.7068225]

>>7068220
I start fine with 2 tones and core shadow then i start placing halftones and fuck it up hard. I keep making half tones similar to dark side which messes it up but there is no fix to that other to do more and think

[Anonymous No.7068228]

>>7068220
I can barely make this out. Draw darker shadows.

[Anonymous No.7068236]

>>7068092
Thanks. I admittedly can do my lines in one go better now, but occasionally they get scratchy as you can see. Something like this would have taken me an hour to do a few months back, so I can already do it faster just...yeah not perfect by any means.

Also thanks for pointing out the ass being too big, I can see it now.

[Anonymous No.7068238]

>>7068218
I'm finding the free version useful already

Maybe I'll dig around for the full version some other time

[Anonymous No.7068248]

>>7068228
Just testing. Is this dark enough?

[Anonymous No.7068258]

>>7068248
It's darker, yeah. Just get a smoother gradient now. I also suggest drawing bigger, your drawing is only notebook 6 lines tall.

[Anonymous No.7068282]

>>7067805
Didn't know what to draw today so I used this guy

[Anonymous No.7068299]

>>7068282
Impressive. Very nice. Now let's see Pawell Allen's drawing.

[Anonymous No.7068304]

>>7068205
nice progress anon, do some from memory and from real life.

[Anonymous No.7068333]

>>7068132
I appreciate it, redliner senpai

[Anonymous No.7068340]

>>7066397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIkJvti0Rds

[Anonymous No.7068458]

First semi serious attempt at painting with no knowledge of painting.
How am I doing? What should I fix?

[Anonymous No.7068502]

>>7068340
no floaty! this is a great improvement over the last one.

>>7068458
>First semi serious attempt at painting with no knowledge of painting.
whew you are kicking my ass, great job, paint more.

[Anonymous No.7068516]

>Draw some decent things
>Think i can draw something a bit more difficult from reference
>End up with a child's drawing
nothing hurts quite like this

[Anonymous No.7068531]

[Anonymous No.7068539]

>>7068516
I think you'd benefit from learning to observe better, KTD and right side have exercises for it but the bottom line is to just copy (either from life or from reference) and try to remain accurate.

[Anonymous No.7068549]

Sup beg. FEET

>>7068516
looks like somebody needs more keys to drawing
>>7068458
you are the living proof of that meme that learning to draw takes 10 years and to paint 1 hour. good job
>>7068248
try to use your tshirt to clean the glass of your camera, dont hold the camera so close to the paper and before taking pic 1 tap on the display at the apple: to force camera to refocus on it. part of being tradchad is learning how to properly digitalize your pieces
>>7068074
the head is disproportionally larger than her body. and you kinda gave up on the shoulder>bicep connection
>>7067961
i wouldnt pay too much attention to this complaint about style of lines used, many drawers use exclusively very sharp lines and it doesnt make their work any less appealing. ofc this is valid only if you made this style choice intentionally (and it isnt byproduct of relying on crutches like stabilizer)
>>7067665
nice booba and belly. but i feel you are VERY slow with these, why is that?
>>7067576
no rules, only tools and fools
>>7067502
>why yes, i am so chad i post my art THREE TIMES for triple amount of (You)s, how could youtell?
very nice chad, it has a few dead beg giveaways, but nothing what wont be fixed by drawing more

[Anonymous No.7068553]

>>7068549
>>7068539
I know, i should do KTD. I've done right side before and i swear to god i can sometimes draw coherently but also other times (like this one) i just fail to apply any basics and it just comes out completely wrong, which makes me frustrated and i start trying to redraw the same picture but it doesn`t work again and makes me want to never draw again, shit sucks

[Anonymous No.7068554]

>>7068516
running away from drawing the hands wont do you any good in the long run lil nigga, do the hands every time

[Anonymous No.7068568]

>>7067503
>>7067791
Thank you so much for the advice guys for real. There is a cemetery not too far from where I live, should be able to get one for free and then we are tight.

[Anonymous No.7068607]

>>7068606 bump limit

[Anonymous No.7068611]

>>7066397

[Anonymous No.7068674]

Rough idea for next work

[Anonymous No.7068682]

>>7068674
erotic

[Anonymous No.7068937]

>>7068210
IC-STUDY/courses/figure/

[Anonymous No.7069025]

>>7068299
kek'd

[Anonymous No.7069632]

>>7068937
>Marc Brunet

[Anonymous No.7069933]

What do i draw?
Are insects good? Its either that or just copying cool shit.

[Anonymous No.7069998]

>>7069933
draw pikachu pokwermon

[Anonymous No.7070037]

tips on procastrination?
Sry if that's off-topic or too unspecific.