/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners General

[Anonymous No.7061289]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
e-hentai.org/tag/other:how+to
line-of-action.com
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific

Previous thread: >>7058685

[Anonymous No.7061293]

did copying bridgman twice show a visible improvement in your art progress?

[Anonymous No.7061305]

i've been told to draw rocks.
I'll give it a try but it sounds really fucking hard

[Anonymous No.7061306]

what should i study to learn to draw better hands once and for all? I draw them like picrel (wonky if not using memorized hand poses)

[Anonymous No.7061315]

what should i study to learn to draw better hands once and for all? I draw them like picrel (wonky if not using memorized hand poses)

>>7061293
i copied it once but i think it worsened problems i already had, like thinking too much about muscles, volumes and detail and losing track of basic stuff like proportions. But it's my specific case
>>7061305
kek
i think feng zhu has made a good vid about it, sketching 101 iirc

[Anonymous No.7061394]

>>7061315
the fuck is this garbage
everytime i bother coming to this shithole someone posts the biggest shit

[Anonymous No.7061418]

>>7061394
why are you balding, anon?

[Anonymous No.7061794]

[Anonymous No.7061804]

Isn't there already a thread up?

[Anonymous No.7061835]

Well?

[Anonymous No.7061842]

>>7061835
Just draw(what you want) everyday is good advice. if you are having a good time, you are doing better than a master who is so tormented by the shading on the upper lip that he burns all his paintings in a rage and then kills himself, but not before going on a naked rampage through his small town ripping up peoples mailboxes.

[Anonymous No.7061856]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q8GH3Ndqww

seeing video related of me favorite artist just wants me to draw again, coloring was always my weakness

and i'm sure you guys can too

[Anonymous No.7061857]

>>7061835
it's a good piece of advice for beginners & hobbyists, art influencers love to fish for views and likes by making click baity videos on this topic

[Anonymous No.7061869]

[Anonymous No.7061937]

>>7061835
1 Youtuber with a bad take.

[Anonymous No.7062022]

>>7061835
"just draw" is the specific but equivalent non-answer as "I don't know what to tell you"
it doesn't answer specific questions that people may have or even encourage people to actually learn how to enjoy the process of learning to draw because most will interpret it as "oh it's like working out if I just grind more I'll get there eventually" which inevitably leads to frustration and burnout
A better non-specific response could be something like "learn to break things down to their most basic shapes" or "study how structures and rhythms relate to one another" with a recommendation for a tutorial or book added on, the point is to give people the tools to help themselves and "just draw" is a non-committal response that pisses me off to no end

[Anonymous No.7062064]

>>7062022
t. nodraw

[Anonymous No.7062065]

>>7062064
I know this is hard for you to believe considering you lot never actually draw but you can in fact study and have fun doing it at the same time

[Anonymous No.7062084]

>>7062022
Newfag.
https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU

[Anonymous No.7062089]

>>7061835
>listening to nigger advice
>ever
You're kidding, right?

[Anonymous No.7062091]

>>7062022
asking stupid non specific questions deserve stupid non specific answers

Why should anons help someone who doesn't even have the decency to post their work? we could be drawing instead of reading those dumbass howie comments

[Anonymous No.7062218]

Posting in 4chan is hard as a free user nowadays. But I manage to copy this picture by just looking for the lines. I never felt accomplished to myself before.

[Anonymous No.7062331]

>>7062089
>Just draw
>Nigger advice
Pyw

[Anonymous No.7062342]

>Posting in 4chan is hard as a free user nowadays
huh

[Anonymous No.7062408]

holy shit its over


even my poses look stiff. I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IM DOING WRONG

[Anonymous No.7062409]

>>7062408
Make sure to not accidentally pyw so we can help you, you don't want that, just keep malding.

[Anonymous No.7062410]

>>7062342
Those are some ninja school girl shoes.

[Anonymous No.7062413]

>>7062409
wait that wasnt my work? wrong image sorry

[Anonymous No.7062417]

>>7062331
This is a /beg/ thread
No one on here, that says shit like what >>7062089, have work TO post.
Also, the vid does give good insight on the advice itself. "Just draw everyday" IS good to do (if you have such freetime) but not good enough advice for beginners that already draw.

[Anonymous No.7062425]

I do not want do watch videos but I guess I have similar gripe with it. not drawing is way to nodraw but just drawing is way to permabegness. it kind of all what any of permabegs literrly doing

[Anonymous No.7062426]

>>7062409
practicing is not as boring as i thought it would be desu

[sage No.7062447]

>>7061315
>what should i study to learn to draw better hands once and for all? I draw them like picrel (wonky if not using memorized hand poses)

Hogarth on hands and Hampton on hands did it for me

[Anonymous No.7062566]

I'm drawing and improving but I keep getting distracted by being a slave to the internet. Gonna smash my router to shit and grind was fun hanging out bros.

[Anonymous No.7062570]

>>7062566
Alright see you tomorrow, schizo.

[Anonymous No.7062617]

I need money
What's the fastest way to get money with drawings?

[Anonymous No.7062626]

>>7061315
Cos'è sta cacata lmao
L'hai fatto te?

[Anonymous No.7063084]

Do you guys know any websites or anything that let you rotate 3D shapes? I don't have anything on-hand in real life.

[Anonymous No.7063135]

>>7063084
Blender is free

[Anonymous No.7063183]

>>7061315
Fichissimo

[Anonymous No.7063342]

>>7063183
Sei un pervertito del cazzo Armando

[Anonymous No.7063419]

>>7061835
best advice,similarly you should just play in fighting games as well while looking at particular issues and trying to fix them but just drawing eventually yields results assuming you have enough IQ

[Anonymous No.7063840]

Is there an equivalent of Bridgeman for geometric drawings or architecture type figures? I'm not so interested in human or animal bodies, but I love the sketches of Ruskin.

[Anonymous No.7063922]

I've spent the last 40 minutes struggling to figure out how to break this figure into boxes with a somewhat correct perspective
Am I on the right path?

[Anonymous No.7063928]

>>7063922
>struggling to figure out how to break this figure into boxes
make her lose weight

[Anonymous No.7063945]

>>7063922
nadine-j - girlfriends
Good video

[Anonymous No.7063948]

>>7063928
Why would you out yourself as a virgin like this.

[Anonymous No.7063963]

>>7063922
Noticed the head box looked wrong, tried to fix it

[Anonymous No.7063965]

>>7063963
I feel like those hips are fucky.

[Anonymous No.7063969]

are images of anime figures something decent to use as reference? I don't own any figures but I was thinking about using some images I find wherever as reference

[Anonymous No.7063970]

>>7063965
How so?

[Anonymous No.7063974]

>>7063969
a reference for what? general proportions or perspective? sure
anatomy/pose? not really, they can't show how muscles change their shape when they're engaged or relaxed, nor natural tilts of the main masses (hips/torso)
light? also not very useful, you can get the 'correct' idea of how light interacts with plastic, but that's usually not what illustrators portray in their paintings

[Anonymous No.7063976]

How to improve at lineart especially on a tablet? I finally reached a point where I like my sketches enough to try and do something with them but the moment I try to do the lineart on my tablet they turn to complete shit.

[Anonymous No.7063977]

>>7063970
There's something about the size/angle that it's tilted that's getting me.

[Anonymous No.7063983]

>>7063974
I usually just copy the reference but make into my own thing. I was wondering if they'd be good for that

[Anonymous No.7063984]

Wait, is this the main thread?

[Anonymous No.7063987]

>>7063984
sometimes two anons make a new thread on accident, so there's no "main" thread. just post

neat art btw, though your 3d shapes are kind of wonky, especially in the lower sheet. some of the shading confuses me: what's going on in the top right of the lower sheet, what's that curve? ditto for the bottom left lower sheet

[Anonymous No.7064069]

>>7063948
not everybody is american
that woman is borderline obese in my country

[Anonymous No.7064076]

>>7064069
That's considered top end of overweight to obese here as well, it's just celbrated and ignored instead.

[Anonymous No.7064099]

>>7064069
>not everybody is american
And neither am I.
>that woman is borderline obese in my country
And you'd come the moment she looked at you.

[Anonymous No.7064364]

other thred ded

[Anonymous No.7064373]

general critique?
it's a ballpoint pen drawing

[Anonymous No.7064379]

>>7064373
>general critique
I have no idea what I'm looking at, where the cliffs end and the creatures begin etc
it just doesnt read at all, anon

[Anonymous No.7064384]

>>7064379
I was trying to depict a cave in showing the creatures underground but yeahhh

[Anonymous No.7064416]

Tried to make a actual sprite for the first time ever

Any criticism is welcomed harsher criticism is preferred

[Anonymous No.7064427]

>>7064384
if it's a hole in the ground, establish the ground planes first. here's a quick mock-up using your lines as a guide
when you've got this down, place the house and creatures and whatever on top, with respect to the perspective and ground planes and shit. otherwise, your creatures look like they're noclipping through the cliff walls

[Anonymous No.7064431]

Look at my shitty mspaint valentines drawing and despair.

[Anonymous No.7064433]

>>7064431
Thanks but you're 361 days too early

[Anonymous No.7064434]

>>7064433
I am 3 days late actually.

[Anonymous No.7064438]

>>7064433
it's a leap year anon

[Anonymous No.7064444]

>>7064438
I'm aware

[Anonymous No.7064540]

This was my..my only piece I am proud of. I never drew again after that.I am 28 years old and own 4 cats.

[Anonymous No.7064542]

>>7064540
everything about this is more soulful than anything i have ever created in my life

[Anonymous No.7064543]

>>7064540
Jesus meeting some impoverished kid in some shitty walled place? Is this china?

[Anonymous No.7064544]

>>7064540
that horse has seen some shit

[Anonymous No.7064556]

I'm LITERALLY Jean Giraud, i fucking maxxed reading that shit, well, not really, i did read Lone Sloane which is the same thing.

I need a (you)... so badly, i can deny myself food and water, even sleep, but a (you)?
never......

[Anonymous No.7064558]

the shadows on the right side of the body look wicked fucked up but i can't tell how i should fix them
ignore the muscles i'll fix them later

[Anonymous No.7064566]

>>7064543
This is outside the walled city of jerusalem

[Anonymous No.7064567]

This was my only piece I am proud of. I never drew again after that. I am 98 years old and own 4 kangaroos.

[Anonymous No.7064571]

>>7061289
I tried to practice some figure drawing and proportions

I drew this with the intention of a 9 head tall heroic figure (based off this: https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/062/069/074/large/bart-sears-referencetablet-1-heroicproportion-male-150dpi.jpg?1682293588))

How's it look? Any tips for improvement?

[Anonymous No.7064588]

>>7064540
Why does he have two right feet

[Anonymous No.7064590]

>>7064588
>he doesnt know

[Anonymous No.7064599]

>>7064588
cause he's always right

[Anonymous No.7064606]

>>7064599

[Anonymous No.7064629]

Although it seems to be working, this method of studying is slow and exhausting. I feel like I might need to recharge by drawing something lewd.
>>7064558
With such strong lighting, there would be cast shadows. Not just form shadows. Also, by having such intense form shadows on the traps, not having form shadows on the delt, scap muscles, etc. looks weird.
>>7063084
Sketchfab
>>7061869
Good job. The hand is so close to the camera and has such dynamic range that it catches the eye. It looks kind of unfinished for such a strong focal point.
>>7062084
This
>>7063922
>>7063928
Yeah. When you’re trying to find/place simplified constructions based on bony landmarks, as a beg, it really helps if you find a model with visible bony landmarks.
>>7064444
Check’d
>>7064571
Not great, not terrible. But that’s okay. Just keep going. Do it again and again, from reference. Focus on observational drawing at first, getting good at drawing what you see. Those lines look like they’re placed with careful and deliberate attention, which is great, and a habit you want to maintain. That said, don’t worry too much about getting each individual thing you do right. It’s more important in the early stages to draw a lot and keep moving on. Why not try drawing from the reference image you linked to?
>>7064235
I mean that you need to stop trying to get each figure careful and correct, and instead just draw a shitload of them. You will be helped by increasing the volume of quick sketches you do, and not by studying harder. Just take the drawing to the stage where the gesture and basic volumes are plotted out and the landmarks are identified. Like at the level of finish of Hampton’s gestures. Stop trying to do anatomy and hatching and obsessing over any one pose. I think you’re at the point where using 3 minute or 5 minute timer for each pose and then moving on will actually help you a lot. Do a couple hundred of them.

Also I hope you’re okay and didn’t actually almost die.

[Anonymous No.7064642]

>>7064629
>Not great, not terrible. But that’s okay. Just keep going. Do it again and again, from reference. Focus on observational drawing at first, getting good at drawing what you see. Those lines look like they’re placed with careful and deliberate attention, which is great, and a habit you want to maintain. That said, don’t worry too much about getting each individual thing you do right. It’s more important in the early stages to draw a lot and keep moving on. Why not try drawing from the reference image you linked to?
Thanks

As to why I didn't draw from that reference image, I wanted to try posing as well.

However I think that's going a bit too fast too quick. I think I'll work on drawing from reference for figures for a bit until I can get more comfortable drawing them.

[Anonymous No.7064695]

How do I into landscapes?

[Anonymous No.7064717]

I can't copy drawings/forms accurately. I think I lack observation skill. How can I improve my observation skill? Should I be over 95% accurate when I try to copy?

[Anonymous No.7064734]

working on this
getting in some nice hands practice

[Anonymous No.7064780]

>>7064717
Keys to drawing /Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain
Their exercises are focused on observation and accuracy

[Anonymous No.7064789]

We are all gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.7064799]

How do I make my contour's look like 3D? I am following Peter Han but my stuff looks far from good. Can someone post some references

[Anonymous No.7064829]

Alright NOW it's ready for rendering.

[Anonymous No.7064847]

wow photoshop actually preserved my session without me saving it
i was drawing and suddenly there was a power failure and i drew on paper instead
this was two days ago, havent opened photoshop since
so now i opened it, prepared to restart this drawing, and suprisingly its still there
amazing

[Anonymous No.7064850]

>>7064734
I consider this a successful study
Maybe tomorrow I will ink it

[Anonymous No.7064868]

>>7064850
nice

[Anonymous No.7064870]

>>7061289
Anons here who read anatomy for sculptors, did you mindless copied the book or used as reference?

[Anonymous No.7064874]

So do I post the boxes I drew yesterday cause I'm pretty all that'll happen is I'll get called a retard again

[Anonymous No.7064879]

>>7064870
>mindless copy
no such thing, if you strive for accuracy
but I've mostly used it to understand some of bridgman's drawings

[Anonymous No.7064891]

>>7064874
If you actually tried to do better than probably not as much

[Anonymous No.7064895]

>>7064874
sure, post em side by side, and ignore the retards, i'll tell you what's wrong

[Anonymous No.7064914]

>>7064235
Just try to do a single copy as best as you can take your time, check some of vilppu gesture sessions on yt,

[Anonymous No.7064924]

>>7064717
use a picture plane, a grid, a compass whatever helps you to measure things. Even the masters used them.

[Anonymous No.7064954]

>>7064850
Damn, looks really nice

[Anonymous No.7064987]

I won’t contribute to this thread, either. What’s the point? I’m just NGMI anyway.

[Anonymous No.7064988]

>>7064987
>>/r9k/

[Anonymous No.7064990]

>>7064868
>>7064954
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.7064994]

>>7064879
Well, reference it is
Don't get why some anons said to copy the book...

[Anonymous No.7064999]

>>7064988
>>/r9k/

[Anonymous No.7065008]

>>7064994
>Don't get why some anons said to copy the book...
copy while thinking about what it is you're drawing

[Anonymous No.7065037]

>>7064795

[Anonymous No.7065051]

I got so high last night.

[Anonymous No.7065052]

>>7064850
Forgot to darken the overlaps

[Anonymous No.7065058]

>>7065052
You reminded me of that triangle thread a while back kek

[Anonymous No.7065065]

>>7065058
i thought of the exact same thread reading his post x)

[Anonymous No.7065073]

>>7065065
>>7065058
The what now?

[Anonymous No.7065083]

>>7065052
You forgot to take this into photoshop and adjust contrast so the image is fucking readable.

[Anonymous No.7065096]

>>7065083
get a real screen, peasant

[Anonymous No.7065103]

>>7065096
Oh yes, it's the fault of my $600 27 inch 4k display. I am so sorry.

[Anonymous No.7065105]

fwap
>>7064629
Nice figures

[Anonymous No.7065110]

>>7065103
Get some glasses, peasant.

[Anonymous No.7065112]

Trying to get faster by doing timed figures. 2 minutes is my limit. Anything under that just becomes straight garbage. I don't know how people manage it.

[Anonymous No.7065119]

[Anonymous No.7065134]

>>7064870
I mostly copied it and tried to remember where muscles go, I have other books for pose references.

[Anonymous No.7065135]

>>7065134
>getting head from a cyclops
new fetish

[Anonymous No.7065163]

just drew this.

Took me about an hour or so. I can do something like this much quicker now.

Getting her face right was very hard however. I need to also do more dynamic/exciting poses but they are hard for me still.

[Anonymous No.7065164]

WHY IS IT SO IMPOSSIBLE TO DRAW EYES CORRECTLY IN PERSPECTIVE AHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.7065171]

>>7065164
>PERSPECTIVE
study it

[Anonymous No.7065172]

>>7064891
That's what I've been doing and I see zero improvement

[Anonymous No.7065180]

>>7064870
I read it but didn't copy it
I use it often to check some information that I forget
if you want to copy try something like morpho

[Anonymous No.7065184]

>>7065172
Just post what you've drawn already

[Anonymous No.7065201]

>>7065052
teach me pls

[Anonymous No.7065211]

I'm not sure on what stage of beg am i? Can someone judge on what stage of beg am i so far with my personal best work? Just curious

[Anonymous No.7065212]

>>7065103
iunno it's fine on my 2k viewsonic, maybe check your gamma levels

[Anonymous No.7065215]

>>7065211
pro tier

[Anonymous No.7065216]

>>7065211
well? post work, come on

[Anonymous No.7065219]

>>7065216
don't be mean

[Anonymous No.7065220]

>>7065211
don't worry about dumb labels, just draw

[Anonymous No.7065221]

1girlwhitevoid floatinghead sisters...
>>7064540
sovl
>>7064558
cool shading in that diamond back area
>>7065103
their contrast looks fine on my samsung smart fridge display

[Anonymous No.7065224]

>>7065220
pls rate --> >>7065219

[Anonymous No.7065225]

>>7065180
holy begness, i assume you never finished the book

[Anonymous No.7065228]

>>7065216
Ok i think this is my personal best from lil commission i did

[Anonymous No.7065229]

>>7065221
pretty neat, you could do with more contrast
check the head proportions, in the thumbnail it looks too small for that neck

>>7065219
well that's not the worst ive seen, it's kinda like kiddie ben10 fanart, just draw 50 000 more of those and you'll get somewhere

[Anonymous No.7065231]

>>7065228
contrast issues: the background is too close to his skintone in places and you can't tell at a glance where his body is and where it isn't
the lighting seems a bit random, where's the lightsource coming from?
the feet and the hand gripping the gun make no sense

but overall better than most begs here, you're on your way out of that hole

[Anonymous No.7065232]

>>7065229
>well that's not the worst ive seen, it's kinda like kiddie ben10 fanart, just draw 50 000 more of those and you'll get somewhere
thank you uwu'

[Anonymous No.7065234]

>>7065225
What's wrong with his art? I'm worse than him and I think it's stylized and pretty

[Anonymous No.7065235]

>>7065225
back to asg will you seanigger?

[Anonymous No.7065237]

>>7065224
I rate it 'needs to draw more' / loomis
now draw more

[Anonymous No.7065239]

>>7065237
thank you, i like fish

[Anonymous No.7065243]

>>7065235
>asg
Not that anon but the last time I went there a few days ago just to check, they were just being little drama queens and dogpiling on their best artist since he used references. Then I finally understood why everyone mocks that place

[Anonymous No.7065246]

>>7065229
Now that I see that the head is slightly too small relative to the neck it's annoying me, I also accidentally gave her a black eye rather than makeup on the left eye

[Anonymous No.7065248]

>>7065231
Yea i struggle with values
I hope i will get out soon
This has been piece i did year before my best one
Is this good improvement?
I got stuck in rut last year but hope this one will kick me back to my grind

[Anonymous No.7065249]

>>7065246
just stop tracing photos altogether

[Anonymous No.7065253]

>>7065243
>on their best artist
>best
i know asg quality bar is ultra low but still

[Anonymous No.7065254]

>>7065248
https://www.clipstudio.net/how-to-draw/archives/156922

read this twice if nevessary and employ it religiously

[Anonymous No.7065255]

>>7065219
>AC2011 signature
If you're 13 you should escape this place and find artists that inspire you from books or online and then create things with them in mind, and just continue creating things on and off for a while and eventually things will click into place and you'll enjoy the things your making more

[Anonymous No.7065258]

can someone post some results of pre "Fun With a Pencil" and after "Fun With a Pencil" art?

[Anonymous No.7065262]

>>7065255
i thought about drawing girls with big pussy lips
you are all drawing girls. why should i not draw like what you guys do?

[Anonymous No.7065263]

>>7065254
Amazing. I was just thinking some time ago about fiding resources for colour now i'm full of resources i wanted to learn

[Anonymous No.7065264]

>>7065262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbWMvrGbjk0
nice try

[Anonymous No.7065266]

>>7065219
>>7065262
this is a more recent one. my dad liked it

[Anonymous No.7065268]

>>7065264
:( done bamboozling

[Anonymous No.7065271]

>>7065249
finally being accused of tracing is an honor now one step below being accused of using ai
I had a reference of emma myers on the side because drawing from imagination entirely isn't exciting to me any more

[Anonymous No.7065272]

>>7065266
forgot to post

[Anonymous No.7065273]

>>7065258
yes, pre >>7061289
post >>7061289

[Anonymous No.7065276]

>>7065271
good for you. at least you didn't trace one layer above.

[Anonymous No.7065278]

>>7065273
its the exact same

[Anonymous No.7065280]

>160 replies
>50 images
/beg/ sisters... there must be a better place we can post work to with less bamboozlers and prebegs having existential crises

[Anonymous No.7065282]

>>7065272
give him human arms
manbearfish

[Anonymous No.7065283]

>>7065271
>drawing from imagination entirely isn't exciting to me any more
sign of gmi
next comes drawing from life instead of photos

[Anonymous No.7065287]

>>7065221
not sure about her shoulder and neck here

[Anonymous No.7065288]

>>7065243
>whole general about copying things
>things that are notoriously traced or heavily referenced
>using references is bad

why are we the containment thread for schizos again ?

[Anonymous No.7065290]

>>7065282
daz good shit
will do

[Anonymous No.7065300]

>>7061289
I took a break for like 3 months - but I feel like I enjoy drawing again

[Anonymous No.7065306]

>>7065300
wrong pic

[Anonymous No.7065312]

>>7065287
Here's the reference, I put the indent where the shoulder meets the neck towards the end because i had it too smooth at first but it's possible I overdid it
>>7065283
>next comes drawing from life instead of photos
Being a neet having to go outside is the final frontier, it could be cool to do more landscape stuff from life since I've watched james gurney do it so often in his videos

[Anonymous No.7065321]

>>7065221
>>7065312
I mean it's good that you didn't trace the photo, but it's not really a good resemblence of her. it is a good exercise to do that, but you need more practice.
when i draw from life or from a photo reference, i don't do grids or anything, as i hate erasing them, it never works. i will try to squint and regard the hair, face, neck as huge flat surfaces and roughly measure their relation to each other just from looking. it's never going to be 100% spot on, but the more you do that, the better you get.

[Anonymous No.7065322]

>>7065312
> but it's possible I overdid it
you did, the bump there (clavicle) is bony and protrudes relative to either side, go look at how those muscles insert

[Anonymous No.7065325]

... so >>7065271
>finally being accused of tracing is an honor now
this doesn't really apply, sry

[Anonymous No.7065327]

Hands. Some alright. Some kinda busted.

[Anonymous No.7065334]

>>7065321
>i will try to squint and regard the hair, face, neck as huge flat surfaces and roughly measure their relation to each other just from looking
this is what i've started practicing since last month and its pretty enjoyable
>>7065325
i'll take it anyway, arigato

[Anonymous No.7065336]

>>7065327
very nice work anon, some small imperfections but keep the grind up and they'll be consistently great.

[Anonymous No.7065337]

Alright anons i tried doing values on this apple from proko exercise. I really messed up, i'm not sure where because i don't understand values well

[Anonymous No.7065347]

>>7065243
lol. Less of about using references, and more about the "best artist" (high-beg renderfag at best) blatantly ignoring and wasting redlines, and getting really defensive about it.

[Anonymous No.7065350]

>>7065347
>(high-beg renderfag at best) blatantly ignoring and wasting redlines
based

[Anonymous No.7065352]

>>7065337
try to do it in 2 values first, get the shadow vs light right, then add more values

[Anonymous No.7065361]

>>7065352
Alright, i'll try again.

[Anonymous No.7065366]

>>7063963
>>7065321
did this little sketch off of the screen
i fucked up the shadows though, her shoulder got too dark
darn penbrush had to much ink

[Anonymous No.7065368]

>>7065334
here's an example of my method --> >>7065366

[Anonymous No.7065369]

>>7065337
You don't have to stress this one, anon. I think he just wants you to get used to using your tools. Pick out big shapes and try to get an even layer of tone on them. Squinting helps condense the gradations of shadow into bigger blocks. Value is later lesson, you'll be moving onto line after this. If you don't get it don't worry.

[Anonymous No.7065386]

[Anonymous No.7065391]

>>7065366
touched it up a bit. no tablet here, only trad tools and computer mouse.

[Anonymous No.7065400]

>>7065391
Awesome job

[Anonymous No.7065407]

>>7065400
thx! a few years of nude and portrait drawing and lots of urban sketching (solo). I haven't done shit in the last two years though, maybe 15 drawings in total. reasons: >>7055141

[Anonymous No.7065416]

>>7065407
anon if you quit drawing because of women and minorities, that's kinda sad
like, sure, it's not fair, but if you need your gender or racial status to get in, consider yourself in need of a crutch
> also, art museums are so fucking FULL of politics, LGBTQRSTWXYZ, protest art, period blood and amateur bullshits, it's unreal
this has been the case for the last 50-80 years give or take, on and off. some things just come and go in and out of fashion. I'm sure the renaissance lederhosen tailors are bummed out over lederhosen not being as marketable as before, but they still do it because they love lederhosen

[Anonymous No.7065418]

>>7065347
>blatantly ignoring and wasting redlines
as he should, if he's better than his redliners

[Anonymous No.7065423]

>>7065312
>>7065221
my take on that. again, only preliminary pencil sketching. no tracing, no grid, just eyes and brushpen.

>>7063922
I don't use boxes, I think it's a crutch

[Anonymous No.7065434]

>>7065361
Ok i messed that one up so i erased. I am not sure how can i draw pear fine when following proko's drawing but when i do it somehow falls apart.

[Anonymous No.7065438]

I can't see or tell what I'm looking. When I look at an image I like with the intent to study it I'm completely lost on how to see it.

[Anonymous No.7065439]

>>7065416
I'm not gonna quit on making art. I just decided to withdraw for a while and not make any submission for applications (or at least not the 20 or so that I usually do in one year).
I don't want to resort to turning my life inside out just to get attention, like all the blue-haired oppressed sexually deviant shits out there are doing. I want to make it without resorting to any strategies. Friends of mine are shilling their instagramable on social media and play into whatever gets the most clicks, following stupid trends and becoming sell outs. I want to do my landscapes and charcoal drawings and have some sort of place in art at some point

>>7065312
I did a little take on that girl for you anon

>>7063963
btw I never use boxes or other schemes as I think those completely distort getting your own style going. just a pencil undersketch to outline the general proportions.

[Anonymous No.7065443]

Hands study before bed

[Anonymous No.7065444]

>>7065391
>>7065439
i like you anon

[Anonymous No.7065446]

>>7061289
How make line smooth and not sketchy? Stabilization is on and I still have to sketch erase...
Also why are the eyes jank? should I start with the pupils?
I admit traced a lot of this or adjusted my lines to the ref, but usually after a couple attempts at eyeballing it. Failure?

[Anonymous No.7065458]

>>7065444
uwu'

[Anonymous No.7065471]

>>7065434
lack of observational skills? when proko does a move, you can copy that move; when you're just looking at the pear on your own you gotta decide where to put what line or what tone
build it up

here's a 5 min buildup of the pear at https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/pear-on-white-table-gm512000778-86934301

[Anonymous No.7065477]

>>7065471
I think i may have developed a bad habit of eyeballing other work and drawing what's remembered from my memory more than breaking down

[Anonymous No.7065482]

>>7065446
>How make line smooth and not sketchy?
draw a million more lines until you're more confident in placing them
not to shill drawabox but go read the first? chapter of that, or watch peter han's dynamic sketching first lesson, they go over some exercises on how to get your lines to look better (spoiler: it's "draw lines without erasing them 50000 times and then you're better at drawing lines without having to erase")

[Anonymous No.7065488]

>>7065477
could be. no way to fix that other than to practice breakdowns and observation

unrelated tip: try to get a midtone down over the whole paper, then put shadows down on that, then erase highlights; when everything's white you'll have problems keeping track of value I feel (that's also why people get toned paper)

[Anonymous No.7065494]

>>7065488
Yeah it's just to study more. Next time i'll try the unrelated tip . Well goodnight to /ic/ and see yall next day

[Anonymous No.7065498]

[Anonymous No.7065507]

Do I have any appeal?

Any "master copy" recs for sketching hair with a pencil?

[Anonymous No.7065512]

>>7065507
its over

[Anonymous No.7065517]

>>7065507
>Do I have any appeal?
to boomers maybe, but it's still too crude for less intellectually challenged audiences. you're on the right path, just keep walking
> Any "master copy" recs for sketching hair with a pencil?
Burgkmair, da Vinky, Parmigianino if you want more detail in hair. usually people just draw hair as blocks or ropes and don't chicken scratch the individual hairs in until much later when they're adding texture

[Anonymous No.7065528]

[Anonymous No.7065547]

>>7065184
Fine, when the insults start though I'm deleting

[Anonymous No.7065550]

>>7065547
Take it slow and try to understand what you're doing. You're trying to speedrun the exercise for some reason.

[Anonymous No.7065551]

>>7065547
the best tip here would be to tell you to use a ruler. your lines are very wobbly and you gotta work more on that, but until then just use a ruler while practicing perspective

[Anonymous No.7065577]

>saw a YT thumbnail of art on a 1M video relating to PDP comparison to chickenscratch I did as a child that I never posted online
what the fuck is this shit

[Anonymous No.7065581]

>>7065577
you think gangstalkers are fake?


post the vid tho lmao

[Anonymous No.7065603]

>>7065581
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THAT IS MY ART. That first page at least
he stole it....
I'm gonna lie down

[Anonymous No.7065604]

Metalfriends peep this shit
https://twitter.com/sabrebash/status/1759025355841568783?t=dSN23xVj72l6wkgJ8fUsAQ&s=19
I could be wrong but I'm pretty certain this also applies to most other metals, you'll just have to adjust the colors

[Anonymous No.7065605]

Does weed make you draw more?

[Anonymous No.7065610]

>>7065603
After watching the video
I have confirmed it.
Most of the beginner art IS mine.
I still have the document
Don't know how to feel about this

[Anonymous No.7065611]

>>7065610
stop edging us, post the vid, im curious now

[Anonymous No.7065612]

>>7065611
Pewdiepies I draw every day for 100 days
Guess I was hacked long ago and my data has been on the DW

[Anonymous No.7065613]

>>7065612
what, you're saying pdp is using your images in this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDtQTTAogk

[Anonymous No.7065619]

>>7065613
Yes.
That sketchbook is doctored at least from what I can tell
Even calligraphy is unique no matter how you imitate it

[Anonymous No.7065621]

>>7065619
i don't believe you, post a picture of yours

[Anonymous No.7065622]

>>7065619
big if true (and if you aren't on pills)
got any proof?

[Anonymous No.7065632]

can your art skill degrade if you don't draw for a long time? I haven't drawn since november out of laziness

[Anonymous No.7065634]

this board is truly a schizo magnet

[Anonymous No.7065635]

>>7065632
sure a bit, but it's kind of like riding a bike. when you get your pencil back in your hand and start drawing again it takes you much less to get yourself back up to speed

[Anonymous No.7065637]

Today's figure. I usually avoid putting detail on the faces mostly due to lack of confidence, but I'm happy with how it turned out even if it's it's not really to the reference and the head's a bit off. If I feel like I learned even the tiniest iota from the exercise it's worth it.

[Anonymous No.7065638]

>>7065634
ok karen

[Anonymous No.7065639]

>>7065632
there are times i've gone like 2 years without drawing and when i returned i was better, even when youre not feeling like drawing though it probably helps to surround yourself with art that inspires you and things you get the feeling that you could draw if you wanted to

[Anonymous No.7065640]

>>7064099
You have a fat girlfriend, don't you Anon? It's okay, we all make bad decisions sometimes

[Anonymous No.7065643]

>>7062617
Go to the city, find a tourist that looks like adopey rube and ask if you can sketch them and then give them the sketch when you're done. Have a friend who's a big motherfucker accost them before they can too far away and force them to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.7065644]

>expose the art thief with my own work with a giant fandom and risk doxxing.
I'll honestly think about it since
Meh someone will do it for me probably

[Anonymous No.7065649]

What a low life LOL. Shitposting on /ic/ is for bottom of the barrel losers.

[Anonymous No.7065659]

>>7064556
Based metabaron poster.

[Anonymous No.7065661]

>>7065619
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion's_Belt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Stars_(Chinese_constellation)
Athanasius Kircher said that in Coptic Egypt it was Κλαρια (Klaria), the Bestia seu Statio Typhonis (the Power of Darkness). Jérôme Lalande identified this with Anubis, one of the Egyptian divinities commonly associated with Sirius
Its common name means "southern donkey".[1] The star also holds a record for the longest name, "Arkushanangarushashutu," derived from ancient Babylonian language, which translates to "the southeast star in the Crab."
The ancient Chinese interpreted the object as a ghost or demon riding in a carriage, calling it a "cloud of pollen blown from under willow catkins."
officially named Sheratan /ˈʃɛrətæn/,[12][13] is a star system and the second-brightest star in the constellation of Aries, marking the ram's second horn.
In Hindu astrology, Gamma Arietis and Beta Arietis (Sheratan) are Ashvins, the twin Rigvedic deities who act as doctors of the divine of the world
In astrology, Denebola was believed to portend misfortune and disgrace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiIc0HuJ78Q

[Vidya No.7065672]

>>7061289
I didn't like the shading on da tummy

[Anonymous No.7065675]

>>7065550
Yeah by the end of it I was kinda rushing it cause I was getting frustrated that the side view cubes looked too flat.
>>7065551
Swear to God I have a ruler somewhere in place, might try and find it tomorrow

[Anonymous No.7065676]

>>7065675
worst case scenario: use a notebook or your phone or another pencil. anything with a straight edge really

[Anonymous No.7065677]

>>7065661
"canal inspector appointed by An." A plow dedicated to him (gišapin-dŠará-da-sù-a, possibly to be understood as "the plow named 'Marching with Shara'")
"wind."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velificatio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9inYuk-gs

[Anonymous No.7065687]

>Tfw i spent the last week doomposting about inability to focus and work instead of working
>Haven't drawn a single thing
>Not even a doodle
>Genuinely spent several hours doomposting instead of doing any work
>No excises to be had
>Probably won't improve
>Even if i do i'll still be starting from lvl 0 because i've drawn for less than 100 hours total in the lasg three years
>Should probably quit for good at this point
The thing that fucks me up the most is that i can do work regularly in any other aspect but its just drawing that trips me out.
I guess its because the end result always fucking sucks and you don't get the same negative feedback loop with lifting or yard work.

[Anonymous No.7065690]

Looking for that blog post on how to start drawing.
It's on an artist's personal website and the name of the website is his first and last name IIRC.
The background is white and on the top there's a black and white drawing of a landscape, possibly a rural scene.

Thank you very much in advance.

[Anonymous No.7065727]

I don't know what the fuck I'm doing

[Anonymous No.7065728]

>>7065687
i saw another anon saying pre /beg/s should really sort their life out in /adv/ since we're here to post and critique beginner/intermediate art not facilitate the life advice to get you to even pick up a pencil

[Anonymous No.7065729]

hate fat people fuck fat people i can never find the gesture in em

[Anonymous No.7065731]

When you draw eyes, do you start with the pupils to ensure the focus is on a specific thing? Or start with the outline of the eye? Or is it all based on the direction of the face in general?

[Anonymous No.7065733]

just some more figure sketches, these (except the first one) are more like 15 mins each, had fun exploring for the lines I actually wanted.
still got proportion errors out the ass but getting a bit better

[Anonymous No.7065736]

>>7065728
Extremely based take i will now shut up

[Anonymous No.7065740]

Sup beg, i keep drawing legs too short and sometimes my torsos are too long. it is prebeg

>>7065672
since you are aiming for coomers, pay EXTRA ATTENTION to how cloth either sinks into skin OR how it overlaps it. They way you drew it it is as if her skin is just painted in cloth texture. otherwise it is coomable, good job
>>7065604
or read keys to drawing and gain ability to analyze all materials simply by looking at photos of it, it even has 1 project just about drawing items made from reflective materials
>>7065547
congratulations, 2 of these resemble box in perspective. still i think you should start with keys to drawing, by the time you finish it your lines will be less wobbly and then you can easily freehand perspective stuff
>>7065528
maybe i should be grinding this instead of vilppu, looks nice
>>7065507
less appeal thinking, more drawing
>>7065446
line confidence comes with mileage, not from stabilizer
>>7065306
cute, coomable, soul. i kneel
>>7065219
welcome to the beg, the only place with honest crit and best learning resources!
>>7064914
i already copied so much, now its time to level up. it is all about making "good enough" draft, i will care about rendering AFTER i can draft
>>7064799
draw this, very slowly and carefully, measuring as best as you can
https://www.okcandle.com/upfile/product/350ml-embossed-pattern-transparent-cylinder-glass-candle-jar_2.jpg
if you succeed you will learn how to draw contour lines. if not then you need keys to drawing
>>7064789
eeeeey thats cute
>>7064695
Hamm Drawing Scenery: Seascapes and Landscapes
Edgar Payne Composition of Outdoor Painting
>>7064629
>just draw a shitload of them
if vilppu book would say so, i would do that. but it said: we dont copy the model, we analyze it. and it is sprinkling me with very mild anatomy knowledge every other page. but sure, i will do what you are suggesting when i pickup bridgman or morpho
>>7064558
SOUL
>>7064416
cute, but lacks form. add shading to the underbelly and undertail

[Anonymous No.7065743]

Redid an old drawing to measure my abilities

[Anonymous No.7065756]

>>7065743
2h painting vs 30 min

[Anonymous No.7065757]

What should i draw thred?

[Anonymous No.7065760]

>>7065757
this

[Anonymous No.7065768]

>>7065760
Too hard

[Anonymous No.7065774]

Another bunny done. 5 more to go…

[Anonymous No.7065775]

>>7065774
Draw cunny now.

[Anonymous No.7065777]

>>7065775
I was gonna draw Rebecca from CP next. Does that count? If not I’m thinking to have a bunny arc in the near future.

[Anonymous No.7065780]

>>7065760
No.

[Anonymous No.7065791]

>>7065777
Fake cunny for posers.
If you want to keep drawing touhou then Cirno could work or one of the myriad lolis from Buruaca.
This is just me expressing my selfish desires though. I like seeing your timelapses here.

[Anonymous No.7065799]

Drew the thunderbird from zelda 2

[Anonymous No.7065802]

>>7065740
> keys to drawing
Do I do the projects alongside it? Or can I skip them for now?

[Anonymous No.7065803]

>>7065802
More drawing less questions

[Anonymous No.7065816]

doodle :

[Anonymous No.7065819]

>>7065816
cool style and use of color, you'll probably get better feedback in /trad/ than here

[Anonymous No.7065820]

>Decide I WILL draw today
>Stare at blank page
>Stare at blank page 2
>Stare at blank page 3
>Stare at blank page 4
>Stare at blank page 5
>Stare at blank page 6
How do I escape this hell?

[Anonymous No.7065825]

>>7065820
automatic drawing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVY5gla0FNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJYGFwGhHnA

[Anonymous No.7065828]

>>7065816
I would buy something like this.

[Anonymous No.7065835]

>>7065825
Fuck, I used to do this all the time before I start officially "learning to draw"

[Anonymous No.7065839]

>>7065825
Oh I LOVE automatic drawing, it does help when you're in a funk

[Anonymous No.7065840]

>>7065819
oa thanks mann, I'll give it a look
>>7065828
That means a lot, thank you

[Anonymous No.7065865]

/asg/ is having another schizo meltdown if anyone wants to see something entertaining

[Anonymous No.7065872]

>>7065865
qrd?

[Anonymous No.7065877]

>>7065872
Some anon said construction out loud and the shitflinging commenced.

[Anonymous No.7065879]

>>7065865
kek I posted that webm cause I thought it was cool
I left, are they still arguing?!

[Anonymous No.7065885]

How important is hold the pencil like this?
Is it worth fighting my muscle memory to switch grips?

[Anonymous No.7065887]

>>7063963
>>7063922
it's almost like the organic human body doesn't translate to boxes, huh!

[Anonymous No.7065898]

>>7065887
When you're overflowing with fat rolls, yeah it's harder

[Anonymous No.7065911]

>>7065825
I think I liked it more when it was blank...

[Anonymous No.7065913]

>>7065898
what shitty ass drawing method doesn't let you draw more than one body type?

[Anonymous No.7065918]

>>7065687
if you don't have any ideas just draw random stuff you find in your house

[Anonymous No.7065923]

>>7065913
That's the part of the drawing process when you use your problem solving skills to find a better way to draw a specific thing, not beseech everything you've learned until that point.

[Anonymous No.7065933]

>>7065923
the fuck are you talking about? he's the faggot trying to draw boxes around everything

[Anonymous No.7065937]

[Anonymous No.7065943]

>>7065937
>index
Is that 4chanx? I don't have that shit

[Anonymous No.7065950]

Why does this look so bad?

[Anonymous No.7065955]

What do I do if I want to keep drawing but every time I fail it brings me to extreme suicidal impulses
I'm starting to worry that one day I'm just gonna snap and blow my brains out after I repeatedly fail at making something look right. I don't want to give up art but it feels unhealthy for my mental state to keep trying

[Anonymous No.7065959]

>>7065950
no form

[Anonymous No.7065965]

>>7065955
>>7065728

[Anonymous No.7065971]

>>7065959
>no form
>form
What?

[Anonymous No.7065978]

where do you start if you wanna learn how to render/color

[Anonymous No.7065981]

>>7065978
Looking good.

[Anonymous No.7065984]

>>7065950
She's not conveying any action
Not conveying any emotion
near 0 form
No weight to anything in image.

What is this image attempting to convey? Is the bucket heavy, is she annoyed because it's heavy?

[Anonymous No.7065988]

>>7065984
She is annoyed because she is doing farm work.
>0 form
>no weight
Would you kindly explain? I am too stupid to understand this.

[Anonymous No.7065993]

>make rough
>looks alright
>try to polish it
>looks like shit
but why

[Anonymous No.7065997]

>>7065993
Because you're deleting information instead of adding it

[Anonymous No.7065998]

>>7065971
Form
Space
Weight
Volume
Dimensionality

[Anonymous No.7066001]

does anybody know any apps that do a little daily "did you do x,y,z today?" i don't want a million calendar entries but i also feel like alarms wouldn't have a similar mental impact
i thought about doing one of those yearly stat tracking apps since i like watching numbers go up, but it would be great if it could yell at me to log things too
also no i do not want to upload lesson studies to DAD, not any shade it's just that i want to upload more substantive stuff once i'm able

[Anonymous No.7066002]

humgh

[Anonymous No.7066005]

>>7066001
i used to use an app called Routinery idk if it’s what you’re looking for

[Anonymous No.7066009]

>>7066005
>$4/month if i don't wanna commit for a year
thank god they give a 7 day trial
i'll give it a spin tho the features look promising
ty anon

[Anonymous No.7066011]

>>7065993
some of your lines look better in the rough, they're getting a bit lumpy and sacrificing too much flow on the left

[Anonymous No.7066027]

>>7065981
thank you

[Anonymous No.7066043]

[Anonymous No.7066045]

>>7066043
made me smile! i like him

[Anonymous No.7066046]

>>7065885
i only do that when i need to flatten the side of it against the canvas like he's doing there, with charcoal

[Anonymous No.7066055]

>>7066011
i'm guessing it's something only practice can overcome? or do i need to try looking at my figure in a different way
picrel is a horse i tried to draw from memory

[Anonymous No.7066063]

>>7066055
I think you're looking at the figure too differently now

[Anonymous No.7066073]

>>7066055
here's babby's first redline to try to show what I mean, a lot of the lines in the arms and legs are sort of wobbling around and give the impression of lumps in odd places

[Anonymous No.7066080]

>>7065959
>>7065984
>>7065998
Anon, I am very very very bad and I can barely put two lines down together so all this form and shape stuff seems like esoteric stuff to me because I can barely make a straight line.
Would you kindly tell me how or why it lacks form and how to implement or learn it?

[Anonymous No.7066135]

[Anonymous No.7066136]

[Anonymous No.7066146]

>>7066080
Basically it’s the ability to draw things that look like volumetric 3d objects, instead of flat paper cutouts. Here’s what helped me: DrawABox until lesson 3 or 4, and then do Vilppu’s Drawing Manual.

[Anonymous No.7066151]

>>7066136
>>7066135
cool! nice lineart, can feel the weight

[Anonymous No.7066158]

>>7066043
very cute

[Anonymous No.7066170]

>>7066080
isn't this a great moment for you to do your own research and learn? You have an exact prompt on what you need to learn and instead you throw your hands up and beg to be spoonfed? How do you expect to ever get good in an extremely esoteric field like art if you can't even learn the very basics by yourself?

[Anonymous No.7066203]

>>7065774
Thats a sexy miss Patchouli

[Anonymous No.7066254]

>>7066080
If you can't answer basic questions of "what is she doing, how heavy is this thing, why does she feel this way" you are ngmi. base level.

[Anonymous No.7066255]

>>7065988
She looks completely flat. Her body has no volume to it. She is a paper doll with her arms pinned to her stomach holding a pail of nothing.

Your art does not convey annoyance at farm chores. She looks like she wants to murder an empty bucket

[Anonymous No.7066257]

>>7066080
>Why does this look so bad?
> this fucking post

"Wahh why does it look bad"

[makes no effort to understand any of the crit]

ngmi

[Anonymous No.7066261]

>>7065037
based anon thank u

[Anonymous No.7066279]

>>7064629
I took your suggestion of drawing more from the reference pic, I like the result a lot more

I still need to work at this but it feels like I'm making progress.

I can't wait to work on 3/4 view, that'll probably be a doozy

[Anonymous No.7066320]

>>7065037
am i just stupid, why isnt this working?

[Anonymous No.7066329]

>>7065950
>>7065988
>>7066080
i hope this can help you understand, i've traced over the silhouette and some of the major interior lines of your drawing and a drawing i found on pixiv. even with just these outlines, it's easy to imagine the 3d forms of the legs and arm in the pixiv picture, but it's harder for yours. why?
- the C curves in the line of the dress as it passes over her legs gives the impression of cylinders in perspective. this happens for the outline of the dress passing over the armpit too.
- the forearm is foreshortened properly.
- although the breast outlines seem reasonable, the overalls strap is drawn in a way that doesn't interact with the size and curvature of the breasts at all, it's flat.
- i cba to trace over the hair and face lines, but you'll find that the 3-dimensionality of your head and hair is also much lower.
you can try doing this for photos of boxes and spheres too, trace the outline and see if your mind can feel a 3d object that could have that outline.

[Anonymous No.7066343]

>>7065740
>draw this, very slowly and carefully, measuring as best as you can
>https://www.okcandle.com/upfile/product/350ml-embossed-pattern-transparent-cylinder-glass-candle-jar_2.jpg
>if you succeed you will learn how to draw contour lines. if not then you need keys to drawing
Na shit looks weird. Probably because of the details and textures. I'll pick Keys to Drawing.

[Anonymous No.7066353]

>>7065865
And now soda is spamming the thread with this slop
Don't forget to use the report button

[Anonymous No.7066372]

>>7066329
NTA but good post

[Anonymous No.7066377]

>>7065865
it's the same nodraw retard that's been baiting in /asg/ for months, nothing new

[Anonymous No.7066398]

>>7066397

[Anonymous No.7066424]

>>7064427
what software is this?

[Anonymous No.7066729]

>>7065488
Ok so today i drew tomato again.
Bottom is last day and the upper one is today
I think it's slight improvement with it

[Anonymous No.7067142]

>>7065877
/asg/ somehow manages to have worse posters than /beg/
And that's saying something considering the sheer amount of schizos that flood this general.

[Anonymous No.7067331]

>>7067329
>>7067329
>>7067329