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7059425 No.7059425 [Reply] [Original]

FWAP is cringe.
Vilppu and hampton is too "le just feel the form" abstractional talk and outdated techniques I feel


Is figure drawing for all it's worth better?

Is there a construction for anime book?

>> No.7059433

>>7059425
I wanna feel her form

>> No.7059439
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>claims of outdated techniques
>then proceeds to talk about FWIW which is literal decades older
Meanwhile every single "anime construction book" are just lazy copypastes of FWAP.

>> No.7059453

>>7059425
How is Hampton abstract?

>> No.7059579

>>7059453
I'm doing Hampton right now and while he's not exactly abstract he does get fucking annoying to follow, just because of how he'll explain something in very broad terms and when you go to copy from the examples provided he throws in random parts and pieces that weren't mentioned anywhere and you just have to figure out on your own what their purpose in a particular construction is

>> No.7059614

>>7059425
Hi brent how are you doing today

>> No.7059623

>>7059425
what does fwap stand for, beg/gar here
fun with a pencil ?

>> No.7059627

>>7059623
yeah
>>7059579
iunno fäm he mostly tells you what he's doing

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>>7059425
>FWAP is cringe.
filtered

>> No.7059704

Spend more time copying figures rather than worrying too much about the best way to learn construction

>> No.7060174

>>7059425
just construct

>> No.7060178

>>7059425
How to draw comics the marvel way

>> No.7060181

>>7060178
Yikes

>> No.7060239

>>7059645
>t. moron
it's a terrible book

>> No.7060894

>>7060239
>every modern art teacher swears by loomis
>all famous mangaka used his books
>any halfway decent modern artist became good by following his books
But I‘m sure /ic/ knows better for some reason

>> No.7060921

>>7059425
bridgman

>> No.7060924
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>>7059425

>> No.7060929

>>7060924
name? figure pack mega? i need more bulky men to draw

>> No.7060937

>>7060924
>>7059425
model/pack? these 2 are just perfect

>> No.7060944

>>7060924
This guy is awesome, what's he from? Got a torrent link maybe?

>> No.7060959

>>7060924
I want to suck his cock in front of his wife!

>> No.7060968

>>7060959
whose son is this

>> No.7060999

>>7060924
sauce?

>> No.7061001
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>>7060924
Any hope that the pack this is from has him posed with a female model (of comparable physical beauty) like picrel?
I like drawing men and women together, would be amazing if he poses with a partner

>> No.7061031

>>7060894
I wasn't speaking about him generally you retard. I'm saying Fun With a Pencil specifically is a bad book. Any teacher who recommends it to an absolute beginner is simply a terrible teacher.

>> No.7061033

>>7060924
>>7061001
>has foreskin
Ewww

>> No.7061034

>>7061033
sorry, some people dislike genital mutilation

>> No.7061061

>>7061033
>his parents mutilated him at birth for no reason
Sorry to hear that anon

>> No.7061067

>>7061033
Yeah foreskins are unaesthetic, but you can just draw his dick fixed

>> No.7061405

>>7060924
Damn

>> No.7061426

When you are drawing have an actual inner dialog going on. Make observations and immediately try testing them. When you get observations like "when I draw here a vertical it looks right pretty much every time" then write them down. You have found one key to your own organic construction skills.

Construction is about practical simplification. You can learn it from others by trying to prove their idea, ergo you try out a simplification and see if it actually turns decent and is repeatable. But you can just as well learn it by yourself all on your own by finding repeatable simplifications yourself.

You just have to be really aware of what you are doing and remember the observation you made like a math formula.

>> No.7061434

>>7061426
>inner dialog
Found the number 5
I do not have an inner dialog going on, I have an internal video stream going on where I think about what I am drawing in pictures
Since what I am drawing is also a picture, this makes for economical calculation

>> No.7061446

>>7061434
The process remains the same. Don't know why you felt the need to point out that you are special despite no one asking and no one caring about your autistic loser self. It contributes nothing.

>> No.7061470

>>7059425
Do drawabox for a bit, until you’ve drawn some bugs. DAB is an automatically rigid version of Dynamic Sketching, but it’s much more beginner friendly and doesn’t assume you have any prior experience, which is a boon to begs. It’s enough to kickstart your ability to feel the form and grok construction by the first 3-4 lessons. Then you can probably do dynamic sketching if you want, and/or revisit loomis, Vilppu, fzd, et al. Obviously, none of this matters unless you’ve got enough of a foundation in observational drawing that you can draw what you actually see and not what you think you see. If you can’t see yet, you won’t be able to tell where vanishing points are or how tilted a given form is in space.

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>>7060929
>>7060937
>>7060944
>>7060959
>>7060999
>>7061405
here pack: >https://gofile.io/d/8NYjIn

>> No.7061500

>>7061495
Thanks, anon! Dude looks like he came straight out of a Bridgman book. Lighting's great too.

>> No.7061522

>>7059425
B U I L T
U
I
L
T

>> No.7061525

>>7061067
>the way you were born is non-aesthetical
The oven is that way """"ma'am""""

>> No.7061635

>>7061033
>eww to foreskin
Kike detected.

>> No.7061638

>>7061495
routines to achieve this natty?

>> No.7061642

>>7061034
>>7061061
Cutting the foreskin has health benefits.

>>7061495
>uncut
Eww

>> No.7061661

>>7061495
gracias

>> No.7061686
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7061686

Why did you make her fat?

>> No.7061706

>>7059425
I recomend "how to draw comics the Marvel way" the way it is explained is simple (or at least with human bodies)

>> No.7061781
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>>7061033
>has foreskin
>Ewww

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>>7061642
>Cutting the foreskin has health benefits.

>> No.7061792

>>7060924
Natty attainable?

>> No.7061800

>>7059425
>>7061686
where to get more female reference like this?

>> No.7061807

>>7060924
I WISH I WASN'T CIRCUMCISED. I HATE JEWS

>> No.7061808

>>7061642
Post nose, rabbi

>> No.7061864

>>7061033
Holy shit kill yourself

>> No.7061887

>>7061495
thanks anon
gonna bust tonight

>> No.7062391

>>7061887
are you gay or a female? just curious

>> No.7062400

>>7059425
Don't worry, bro. One day you'll find the perfect resource to teach you exactly what you want in a way that's prefect for your with no need for any work on your part to translate the ideas into a workflow that is comfortable for you.

>> No.7062433

>>7059425
>>7061686
Answer OP.

>> No.7062448

>>7061686
she looks fatter in your pic, which I assume is the original

>> No.7062516

>>7062433
It's a different pose retard.

>> No.7062579

>>7062516
It's the same pic but with photoshopped cartoony hips

>> No.7062690

>>7061686
uhm, can I have her set, thanks

>> No.7062710

>>7061033
I wonder who's behind this post?

>> No.7062757

>>7059425
>>7061686
which tools do you use for a shoop like this?
how long does it take?

>> No.7062763
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>>7061887

>thanks anon gonna bust tonight


Innocence mode: have fun drawing.

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>>7061495
:´D

>> No.7062802

>>7059425
that is one fat bitch

>> No.7062811

>>7061686
Lmao I was just about to comment on how shopped the op pic looked. Coomers are retarded

>> No.7062865

>>7062800
Yeah his feet are cool

>> No.7063046

>>7060959
are you asian by any chance?

>> No.7063081

>>7062690
Her name is Sierra McKenzie.

>>7062448
this is your brain on coom.

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>> No.7064034
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>> No.7064083

>>7064028
3d woman are disgusting

>> No.7064244

>>7060924
Is there a ´´Yin`` equivalent of this?

>> No.7064246
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7064246

>>7059425
>Is there a construction for anime book?
Anime artists rarely use construction when they're drawing on the job, specially in a fast paced field like anime, even manga artists don't use it much, they tend to use flat shapes tho, just not boxes or other 3D forms (Frieren manga artist and Oda comes to mind)
With that said they do teach how to do construction in their how to draw manga books, but pro Jap artists don't use them much, they would rather use CSP 3D models or photos.

>> No.7064247

>>7061033
Mutilated american detected.

>> No.7064321

>>7063081
Just saying man, big hips aren't fat

>> No.7064331

>>7064037
What news from the other parts of Tamriel?

>> No.7064820

>>7059425
>>7064246
This method reminds me of Bert Dodson's "Keys to Drawing," which is a really great way of learning how to draw, methinks.

>> No.7064903

Anyone got any high quality studio photos of twinky guys, strongfat guys and girls, and just muscular girls?

>> No.7065504

>>7059425
>Is there a construction for anime book?
nips trace 3d models and in a few years they'll use ai

>> No.7065544

>>7059425
Le is a stand-in for the. At least shitpost correctly.

>> No.7065546

>>7059425
>shopped a pig to look like CSRB girls
Pathetic

>> No.7065549

>>7064083
What anime and no pussy does to a nigga

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7065563

>>7059425
>look up model
>Her hips look nothing like Ops pic
How could you do this to me? anyone know of any models that have a body like ops?

>> No.7066100

>>7065563
proko Marcia is pretty nice

>> No.7066108

which figure course has the best models?
I liked proko more than the brett evisten one. any others?

>> No.7067386

>>7059425
You are retarded if you think Hampton is abstract, which explains why you wanna draw anime tbqh

>>7059579
Yeah, definitely retarded. Doesn't even know how to follow a book. Just find another hobby and spare yourself the pain.

>> No.7067428

>>7061495
amazing thanks

>> No.7067441

>>7061495
>This site can’t be reached
>Check if there is a typo in store8.gofile.io.
huh

>> No.7067606

>>7065563
maybe a Female Ebony model? like Tish?

>> No.7067690

>>7067606
tish? does she have an instagram or something? can't find her

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7067698

>>7061642
> Cutting the foreskin has health benefits

>> No.7067726

>>7067698
stop responding to bait

>>7066108
grafit studio has a lot of neat models in cool poses with guns and swords and shit, worth checking out

>> No.7067734

>>7066108
all of those courses have shit model selection
the satine zillah guy doesnt have courses but has the best models

>> No.7067735

>>7061033
based bait

>> No.7068264

>>7065563
Not really a model, and difficult to find her material for free. But "low-keydeadinside" onlyfans girl. + insta and tiktok

>> No.7069066

>>7060924
>ethnically cleanses eastern europe from slavs

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>>7061642
>Cutting the foreskin has health benefits.

>> No.7069548

>>7059425
holy bajessus how do i get a gf this wide

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7069566

>>7069548
locked in your room like a masturbating jerkoff, you won't make it

>> No.7071612

>>7059425
all you dumb fucks have to do is complete drawabox, yet here you are still complaining about the same shit years later.

>> No.7071616

>>7060924
I am a straight man but his phallus gets me salivating with desire

>> No.7071682

>>7069543
The main benefit is: it's fucking funny
A second benefit is that the people who are going to seethe about it kinda deserve to seethe and are always going to end up seething all their lives anyway, so we might as well give them something to seethe about the day after they're born that will beneficially mark them clearly and definitively as not normal and not valid in the face of 99.9% of all people not seething or giving one solitary molecule of a shit about foreskin getting chopped off

>> No.7072449

>>7059425
wtf is fwap?

>> No.7072459

>>7072449
Fun with a pencil by andrew loomis

>> No.7072514

>>7072459
thank you so much anon

>> No.7073122

>>7059425
The Art and Science of Drawing by Brent Eviston.